Medris Clarification

[Kief]

The fact that a recently promoted GM had to clarify basic interactions between players on a server hosting no more than 75 at prime time is truly grueling.

I have busted my rump trying to raise pop and it seems to me that the GM's are also starting to get annoyed that a perfectly playable server is being abused by "nerd titans" so to speak.

So here's a shout out to Medris. Thanks for the effort man. And thanks for the interest.

-Your brother,
Guava

[Tune]

idea is pretty stupid for the people that have been dealing with this for years

this also has a lot of unintended consequences and will lead to questionable scenarios where people are going to get banned on grey areas

[EatitNerd]

Guava move the hell on, you have always been a nonfactor pick up a new hobby play a different game, sheesh man. You’ll never be “the” guy, face it.

[Symbioticforks]

Hey Tune, how many accounts have you personally got suspended in the last 30 days?

Answer this and lets see if anything else you have to say is worth listening to.

[Heywood]

Hey Tune, how many accounts have you personally got suspended in the last 30 days?

Answer this and lets see if anything else you have to say is worth listening to.

Can confirm tune had gotten several toons banned. That's why Medris made a post.

GMs are tired of his cheating and are keeping the scrub in check.

[Berryman]

Accidents will always happen, those are not the toxic trains and the dispells Medris is talking about. It is more about willingly take the risk of training others or train them intentional. If you dispell an engaged target you normally do this, because the target is doing a lot of damage afterwards and especially if it is just a dispell, you definitely don't go for a PvP fight, all you do then is going for a wipe. That is what is toxic, it always only takes one person to ruin the fun for others, I think there are a couple PvP servers out there with no rules, but all servers with people playing on it including RoZ have rules, some of them even implemented them on the server side. If you play at a server you need to respect the rules, or just pick another one that suits you more.

[Kief]

Guava move the hell on, you have always been a nonfactor pick up a new hobby play a different game, sheesh man. You’ll never be “the” guy, face it.

Agatha I have always dicked around and been a non factor. I play to shoot the shit and talk to folks from around the world.

Never have I aspired to whatever you are inferring and nor do I care what you think. If the fact I enjoy helping people on a server where I've met some really cool people and keep in touch with them IRL bothers you, maybe you need to move on.

Your play time just from raiding alone over encompasses my play time from the entire time of Red's release.

Wake up buddy. But I still love you. -Guava

[Kief]

What Berry said is mainly directed at Tune. I respect Tune greatly for trying to keep PvP alive on this server. My whole point of this thread is that it's a shame we need a guide to be promoted just to handle disputes on a small population server.

I've seen most everyone play together and enjoy themselves. Why not enjoy the PvP over raid encounters regardless of your guild? Why not do things together regardless of your guild?

This is mostly @ Tune. My lack of understanding is in regard to playability. Would a Red 2.0 be awesome? No question. Will it ever be released with the constant petition and drama around this small populated situation?

No.

[Tune]

i have only been suspended 2 times

one time it wasnt my mobs

the other one was legal

gms just make suspensions and come out with new rules after the fact

this has been goin on since 2011

pvp is definitely alive there are no rampant trains I have been following the rules for months

[Sguchi]

File this thread under the blue section of the forums.

When is red 2.0?

[starkind]

Pras to the staff for still taking an interest in the box.

Idk how anyone can complain.

[Disease]

Medris and staff are always out for the best interest of the server. People who got ran off the server might post different. But props to staff for keeping this server going for this many years!

[Penish]

This is the quality of player backing this PvE mentality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT17uFri5F0

Way to go Agatha / Medris, lol

[Amyas]

Engage the player not the mob sounds like pvp to me.

[Jimjam]

PVP is not: Shooting other players characters with bows


PVP is: Casting spells on NPCs.

(!)

[raski]

idea is pretty stupid for the people that have been dealing with this for years

this also has a lot of unintended consequences and will lead to questionable scenarios where people are going to get banned on grey areas

he sounds scared.

[starkind]

So can i dispell a mob if a chanter charms it to attack me in pvp?

[Heywood]

I commend the GM's actions and enforcement of the rules.

For far too long, apex has been hiding behind dispelling npcs, trains, and oor toons. And they try to call that "pvp" lol.

Consider this apex's deathknell.

[Tune]

I commend the GM's actions and enforcement of the rules.

For far too long, apex has been hiding behind dispelling npcs, trains, and oor toons. And they try to call that "pvp" lol.

Consider this apex's deathknell.

id argue no

[EatitNerd]

This is the quality of player backing this PvE mentality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT17uFri5F0

Way to go Agatha / Medris, lol

Nah this shit is weak as hell, the change to dispelling mobs came early velious and it’s awful for people fighting the guava zerg

[Imago]

This is the quality of player backing this PvE mentality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT17uFri5F0

Way to go Agatha / Medris, lol

Anytime Agatha pipes up, I think back to this video. What a fucking moron.

[Gustoo]

Is that actual cam footage of agatha?

Highly don't recommend sharing pictures of your face on macequest board.

[Dvusz]

idea is pretty stupid for the people that have been dealing with this for years

this also has a lot of unintended consequences and will lead to questionable scenarios where people are going to get banned on grey areas

Spoken like an innocent man :rolleyes:

Since your imploded under the unbearable pressure of <PERDITION> you've been blatantly training, OOR pelling and other scummy and desperate behaviour every week with an unprecedented lack of GM response.

Wrap it up

[Tune]

no i havnt heh, ur propoganda is funny tho

with that logic how have I been pvping for months?? Id be suspended every day.

having access to accounts doesnt help either they blanket

[Tassador]

75 players at prime. Numbers are on the rise keep of the good work ladies.

[Tune]

75 players at prime. Numbers are on the rise keep of the good work ladies.

there was almost 90 last night, thats pretty good i was around when there was 1-15 online at peak hours

[Tassador]

Well if you want eq pvp velious locked this is actually your only viable option.

[reebz]

The server really isnt playable. Its just not fun for a lot of us to compete over someone getting a piece of raid gear on their 7th character.

Like killing people farming in PoM was fun for literally months. But eventually, around the 1 year mark, im not slowing anyone down.

Stopping someone from getting their 18th red flower isnt as fun as stopping them from getting their first, or 2nd... Or even 3rd.

Ps. i still log in and kill level 1-2 players but thats not really what I consider playable.

[Gustoo]

Ps. i still log in and kill level 1-2 players but thats not really what I consider playable.

a true soldier

[Tune]

now the server isnt really playable from an underdog perspective , ill agree with u reebz

when every new rules that comes out favors the zerg guild.

the gms just want 0 competition bc they are sick of answering petitions

perd has too many petition questers, petitioning every little thing / made up rule violation

even when u contest legally they cry to the gms, then the gms dont know any better and they do what ever the crybabies want so they stop petitioning

its a sad state of affairs

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

He said without a hint of irony

[raski]

He said without a hint of irony

LoL'd real hard

[Symbioticforks]

now the server isnt really playable from an underdog perspective , ill agree with u reebz

when every new rules that comes out favors the zerg guild.

the gms just want 0 competition bc they are sick of answering petitions

perd has too many petition questers, petitioning every little thing / made up rule violation

even when u contest legally they cry to the gms, then the gms dont know any better and they do what ever the crybabies want so they stop petitioning

its a sad state of affairs

Don't do things that will get you suspended, it's as simple as that. Also why contest when there's literally nothing your 'guild' can kill. People are calling you Crybone at this point.

[Tune]

i didnt

its a pvp server

your guild only logs on for raids

its the only chance of mass pvp

[Ogtz]

The combination of delusion and irony from this clown. HAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[AlaskaDefgun]

now the server isnt really playable from an underdog perspective , ill agree with u reebz

when every new rules that comes out favors the zerg guild.

the gms just want 0 competition bc they are sick of answering petitions

perd has too many petition questers, petitioning every little thing / made up rule violation

even when u contest legally they cry to the gms, then the gms dont know any better and they do what ever the crybabies want so they stop petitioning

its a sad state of affairs
Lol Tune dispelled somebody's mob with an out of range lowbie shitter one too many times. The Gm's finally cracked down. Pras that! And this guy crying about another Zerg is just sad lol yikes

[Heywood]

Feels good killing crybone's guild.


Alcos still bros.

[Symbioticforks]

i didnt

its a pvp server

your guild only logs on for raids

its the only chance of mass pvp

Am I talking to Tune or Ricquire? You lie so much your identities are indistinguishable.

Yeah this is a pvp server, but the rest of what you're saying has no merit.

[EatitNerd]

Lol Tune dispelled somebody's mob with an out of range lowbie shitter one too many times. The Gm's finally cracked down. Pras that! And this guy crying about another Zerg is just sad lol yikes

1 post, anonymous name, checks out. Zergling detected

[Berryman]

Tune do you really believe what you are talking about?
At red Petitionquest is a word mostly used by people ignoring the rules, to justify their griefing. Those people also love to tell the others why the actual rules are senseless, why no PvP can happen and so on. I strongly suggest those people to talk to Alcoholics or Kubby Kombat, those people seem to have a lot of fun at PvP and I can tell you, at least with Alcoholics, we have no issue at all. Try to self reflect a bit and think about, why people petition you or Apex. We always reach out first to the opposite side, before we write a petition, but Apex keeps telling us, GMs don't care, we take the risk, nothing happened, the rules don't count or are nonsense...... We wouldn't write a single petition, if your side would step up and take the responsibility for their actions. Also we don't petition accidental stuff unless it is clear the person just didn't care at all and took a high risk at his action. The number of petitions is that way in sync to Apex ignoring the server rules. Also why are you talking about contesting? Do you really think you can contest raid mobs atm? What you do is PvP at our raids not contest them in any way. Training us and dispelling our raid targets is not PvP, trains might happen, dispells should not happen, and if it happens you need to take responsibility for it and not try to justify it by telling everyone, that you don't like the server rules or that they don't apply to you. So stop crying, start PvPing us and let us all have fun!

[Tune]

Tune do you really believe what you are talking about?
At red Petitionquest is a word mostly used by people ignoring the rules, to justify their griefing. Those people also love to tell the others why the actual rules are senseless, why no PvP can happen and so on. I strongly suggest those people to talk to Alcoholics or Kubby Kombat, those people seem to have a lot of fun at PvP and I can tell you, at least with Alcoholics, we have no issue at all. Try to self reflect a bit and think about, why people petition you or Apex. We always reach out first to the opposite side, before we write a petition, but Apex keeps telling us, GMs don't care, we take the risk, nothing happened, the rules don't count or are nonsense...... We wouldn't write a single petition, if your side would step up and take the responsibility for their actions. Also we don't petition accidental stuff unless it is clear the person just didn't care at all and took a high risk at his action. The number of petitions is that way in sync to Apex ignoring the server rules. Also why are you talking about contesting? Do you really think you can contest raid mobs atm? What you do is PvP at our raids not contest them in any way. Training us and dispelling our raid targets is not PvP, trains might happen, dispells should not happen, and if it happens you need to take responsibility for it and not try to justify it by telling everyone, that you don't like the server rules or that they don't apply to you. So stop crying, start PvPing us and let us all have fun!

lol u mean dispells shouldnt happen... now that they have changed things, ok

the rest of that is just nonsense

[Berryman]

Suppression is a nice way to build an own comfortable world, but if the majority of the people surrounding you don't believe you, or have a completely different perception, it might be smart to reflect at least some of the past incidents. You call it nonsense, we call it reality. ;)

[Tune]

Suppression is a nice way to build an own comfortable world, but if the majority of the people surrounding you don't believe you, or have a completely different perception, it might be smart to reflect at least some of the past incidents. You call it nonsense, we call it reality. ;)

more nonsense

[swallis]

i have only been suspended 2 times

one time it wasnt my mobs

the other one was legal

So you say the GMs are changing the rules in our favor. And you also accuse Perdition of petition questing you on every little thing. But you've only been suspended twice.

Do you understand how these statements don't add up logically?

The reality is that petitions are actually quite rare, and only for blatant trains and scummy shit that any reasonable person would agree is scummy.

You're trying so hard to paint a picture of an alternate reality. And for who? The people on the forum that don't even play on the server anymore?

[Kileldear]

It was hard being the underdog for years.

Now Apex is beat to the ground. My life goal is achieved.

Trains and petitions:
Let me remind you of the day that Symbiotics brings 1 frostycube and 2 of your guildies bring the other 3 mobs (green mobs btw) and Apex petitioned it.

Let me also remind you of the petition you posted to try and get Dranger suspended and then trained the Dozekar attempt.

Do you not expect the same to happen to you on the same kind of nonsense ? Well if you did not before, then think twice.

Cya tonight nonfactor. Be early so you get your bonus!

[Disease]

Tune has to be the goat of the red server. People writing long essays, gms making rules on the fly to contain him.

[Gustoo]

For staying at it, he is the champ.

[Tune]

Tune has to be the goat of the red server. People writing long essays, gms making rules on the fly to contain him.

yup pretty much

1 man contesting them (and clean ) was too much for 30 grown men crybabies

gotta make new rules on the fly and ban expos facto

(the usual here on R99)

[Jimjam]

yup pretty much

1 man contesting them (and clean ) was too much for 30 grown men crybabies

gotta make new rules on the fly and ban expos facto

(the usual here on R99)

It’s crazy! They’re trying to argue casting spells on NPCs isn’t PVP, yet they seem to believe that shooting bows at other characters is PVP! Such cognitive dissonance just for the sake of persecuting you. Get it together guys! Embrace real PVP!

[Penish]

Clearly every single time a raid has been fucked with it's been tune, I'm not schizophrenic. Let's lol together again today.

[Tune]

i mean lets not look at raids for a sec, just makes me scratch my head when gms say stuff like

https://imgur.com/a/M83JdtJ

http:/https://imgur.com/a/M83JdtJ/

like how in the hell is pelling a charmed pet NOT pvp

its gonna have un-intended consequences in small skirmish pvp when people do stuff they have been doing for years and all of a sudden its bannable

there are no clear rules the gms just do what ever they want to do on a whim and dont lay the rules out ahead of time

[vitas]

I think I got suspended for pelling when we had 13

For the record, Tune's definition of "having 13" includes him zoning in on twelve level 30 characters and dying to mobs one at a time, then logging onto one character at the dragon and dispelling it

Its shit like this that gets you to the point where Medris feels he has to make a clarification like this.

We (Perdition) could make a player agreement to allow dispelling raid targets when there are more than 12 involved but given the fact that you have never negotiated in good faith, and you didnt even follow the 12 or more rule with your twisted interpretation, I dont see that it would benefit anyone.

[MiRo2]

We (Perdition) could make a player agreement to allow dispelling raid targets when there are more than 12 involved but given the fact that you have never negotiated in good faith, and you didnt even follow the 12 or more rule with your twisted interpretation, I dont see that it would benefit anyone.

It was already a rule, why would it need to be agreed on by the players?

Added - 4/6/17: A Raid Force is 12 or more players - Again we are talking about the RAID TARGET, if you only have a couple of players and want to attack players thats fine, but you cant interfere with the raid target unless you have a RAID FORCE

Unless this new addition means you can never do it?

Added portion in Red: Intentionally causing experience-loss to other players in the PvP environment is illegal in all cases and may result in disciplinary action when witnessed by a P99CSR. This includes things such as intentionally training NPCs and dispelling mobs that another player is engaged on. We do understand that there are cases where the experience-loss is unintentional, and no disciplinary action will be taken in those cases.

[Tune]

For the record, Tune's definition of "having 13" includes him zoning in on twelve level 30 characters and dying to mobs one at a time, then logging onto one character at the dragon and dispelling it

Its shit like this that gets you to the point where Medris feels he has to make a clarification like this.

We (Perdition) could make a player agreement to allow dispelling raid targets when there are more than 12 involved but given the fact that you have never negotiated in good faith, and you didnt even follow the 12 or more rule with your twisted interpretation, I dont see that it would benefit anyone.

wtf are u talking about

this rule has been in place for years since ragnarok was around

we dont need to neogiate with u, u were a spec on a flys ass at the time.

we made the rules sensibly (all guild leaders and gms got together in meeting) so underdog guilds wouldnt go extinct

now with the new addition its just a sad state of affairs , not only on the raid seen but on the small level

more petitions will happen, less pop, etc etc

you are just adding more things u can do.. built in the game code, that u at the same time, can't do bc of bullshit rules

all grats to 30 grown ass men crying

[Baugi]

I think I got suspended for pelling when we had 13

Happy to provide logs showing you had less than 12 if you tell me who got suspended. We're very careful with our petitions to avoid wasting staff time.

Medris clarified back in February that your "several were campedo ut on top of u" nonsense wasn't going to fly because you need 12 players online and in level-range at the fight. <Perdition> always followed this rule to the letter when PVP'ing <Apex>, even when it meant losing. You chose to ignore us and him because you thought you were getting away with it, forcing an even stricter interpretation of the rules. We didn't lobby for it. You really only have yourself to blame: for the original rule, for getting suspended, for forcing this stricter interpretation of the rules; all of it.

The sever is healthier than it's been in years.

[Tune]

i have all the evidence of more than 12 multiple ways

u guys are acting like i pelled this mob every single day

ive been contesting for months without pelling

do u think i dont know the rules that I myself pretty much made? lol

[El Camacho]

It was already a rule, why would it need to be agreed on by the players?



Unless this new addition means you can never do it?

Two guilds can come to an agreement, for example that petitions involving dispelling are to be ignored by the GM's as both guilds have agreed to free for all dispelling during raids, etc. The GM's will work with player agreements and abide by them.



Speaking in general, the rules are not terribly difficult to understand.

Yet somehow players with /played times that rival the Dow Jones index are left clutched their pearl and completely mystified how they were once again smashed by the GM's for being shitters.

No the GM's have not always understood the culture of Red, but they are not stupid either.

Again, the rules aren't terribly difficult to understand.

[Tune]

Two guilds can come to an agreement, for example that petitions involving dispelling are to be ignored by the GM's as both guilds have agreed to free for all dispelling during raids, etc. The GM's will work with player agreements and abide by them.



Speaking in general, the rules are not terribly difficult to understand.

Yet somehow players with /played times that rival the Dow Jones index are left clutched their pearl and completely mystified how they were once again smashed by the GM's for being shitters.

No the GM's have not always understood the culture of Red, but they are not stupid either.

Again, the rules aren't terribly difficult to understand.

another wasted post

we already had rules in place for this

i never pelled mobs, rarely if ever, and only did it when it was ok to do so by following the rules we had in place for 3-4 years

[Ogtz]

#fakenews... you're trying to save face for who? countless videos of basically you actions contradicting your statements... Claims to have "made the rules" then proceeds to complain about the rules. Couldn't get a story straight if your life depended on it. See you on your boxed oor toon at the next gathering.

[Symbioticforks]

If you lie enough, people are bound to believe some of what you're saying. Is that the process? Pathological liar much?

- i didnt
- no i havnt heh
- i never pelled mobs
- i have all the evidence of more than 12 multiple ways
- ive been contesting for months without pelling
- 1 man contesting them (and clean)
- i have only been suspended 2 times

[Heywood]

There's a reason why tune is the laughin stock of the eq emu PvP community.


Feels good to beat him at EverQuest. Wasn't hard either.

[Tune]

propoganda machine is strong, been that way for years

i almost respect it

[Berryman]

Tune is well known for building his own reality and since you basically need to verify every single sentence of him, I just gave up taking him serious to be honest.

[Samaritan]

This thread is a flood of Tune tears. Funny AF to read his post which totally contradict shit he's been pulling on Red for years.

[El Camacho]

another wasted post

we already had rules in place for this

i never pelled mobs, rarely if ever, and only did it when it was ok to do so by following the rules we had in place for 3-4 years

Look, I don't know you beyond a few xp groups and I have zero beef with you. You have been mostly chill whenever we meet up (and I actually know who you are).

I was actually speaking in general terms, which is why I said "generally speaking". Not about you, but since you bring it up, lets be honest.

You are part of a small segment of players that seem to be constantly involved with GM drama, suspies, banhammers, trains, etc. This small group always claims the rules were wrong, the GM's are out of control, wrong place wrong time, sun was in your eyes, whatever, but it is always the same group of people.

Only two possible explanations.
You are one of the unluckiest players ever and the universe conspires against you.
You fly a little to close to the sun.


/shrug

[Bhairava]

trying to rule lawyer away the pvp on a dead pvp server

rogean wipe it clean 2021

[Bhairava]

i know tune has like several thousand hours sunk into the server and ur scared of him macequesting somebody when his stuff gets wiped, but its time to get red 2.0 going

[DRAGONBAIT]

i would pay for a red 2.0

[Tune]

I dont think red 2.0 is happening. People get too mad in this game when they get pvped and cry too hard when they lose. I dont think staff wants to deal with 40yr old millenial participation trophy cry babies

[DRAGONBAIT]

I dont think red 2.0 is happening. People get too mad in this game when they get pvped and cry too hard when they lose. I dont think staff wants to deal with 40yr old millenial participation trophy cry babies

i thought theyve been dealing with u for a long time

[Tune]

U can say what u want but I never once cried to have the rules changed

I was always pro less rules and less gm involvement

I was at the receiving end of more rule changes to contain me than I care to shake a stick at. Oh and then susp after the fact

[El Camacho]

So there you are, being all cool and normal.
Whistle all super clean and getting immersed, when BAM!
The GM's come by, change some rules and suspend you.
For no reason what so ever.

Sounds believable.

[Disease]

So there you are, being all cool and normal.
Whistle all super clean and getting immersed, when BAM!
The GM's come by, change some rules and suspend you.
For no reason what so ever.

Sounds believable.

When I played on red, bards would power level full groups. I would rapture the bard, train kills him and I get suspended. So as long as the bard keeps pulling, you cant touch him. Its dumb rules like this that kill pvp.

Outside of MQ and pulling trains on to people, everything else is game.

[Tune]

So there you are, being all cool and normal.
Whistle all super clean and getting immersed, when BAM!
The GM's come by, change some rules and suspend you.
For no reason what so ever.

Sounds believable.

sounds crazy doesnt it

but its happened to me multiple times now

gms see something they dont like

suspend first, then come out with new rules

[El Camacho]

When I played on red, bards would power level full groups. I would rapture the bard, train kills him and I get suspended. So as long as the bard keeps pulling, you cant touch him. Its dumb rules like this that kill pvp.

Outside of MQ and pulling trains on to people, everything else is game.

Yeah the bard kiting thing was shit, but thats over.

Outside of MQ and trains, pretty much everything is game. It isn't rocket surgery to understand the rules. Kill another player, fine. Engage a PvE mob to INTENTIONALLY kill another player, not so fine. If you are attacking the player and pve kills them, thems' is the breaks.

Problem is people branch over into PvE and pretend it is PvP, so adjustments are made.

2 dudes on a suicide run in to pell a raid mob so that the PVE mob wipes a raid isn't pvp. Disallowing that forces people to actually fight.... people.

Same two dudes can run in and smash a clerics face, wipe the raid and they are just fine.

Bringing 12 dudes to fight a raid and pelling the mob doesn't matter. 12 are going to wipe that raid regardless.

You listen to these guys in discord and it is clear they know exactly what they are doing.

[Imago]

i would pay for a red 2.0

[pivo]

So, there are GM's starting to look at Red? Great!

There is player, Twiggy that like to trains with NPC's lower level players. Players that he wouldn't be able to attack because of level gap. I experienced it personally. What is the point, but trying to make noobs life miserable? And if you say something about this in OOC, you get mocked by apex. "he got killed on PvP server and now he is crying" sort of responses. "you do understand you are on PvP server, right?"

How this helps keeping new players on the server? Who are trying to get their first pieces of gear. Now you have a corpse somewhere in dungeon you can't get to it by yourself, you lost an XP, by highly twinked player, that is so much higher level that can't attack you by PvP rules, yet he does it anyway with a NPC train. He was doing it for weeks and no one cared.

Tune was killing someone several times, over and over when that player was just trying to get to his corpse. Many apex players do. And for all this reasons, yes, it is about time, some GM's start looking into it and start banning. Tune, (and apex) what joy is killing naked person on a corpse run? You guys are such a heroes! Such a good players!

So what did I do after I experienced few NPC trains by highly twinked player way above my level? I went to TAKP for a while. I want to have fun, enjoy, life is hard enough. Why would I seek griefing? I don't get it, what joy player gets by trying to make miserable life to someone else, by keep killing someone over and over who is only trying to get his corpse? What are these players in real life? Sadists? Mentally ill?

Or, you are so twinked so OP, that attacked player few levels bellow you in rags has 0 chances out of 1000 enounters with you. What is the point? You really enjoy this? Like being level 50 and then go to beginner area and start leveling up there, one NPC at a time? Would you really enjoy this? No? But going after someone who has 0 chances that makes you happy? You think this makes you A BAD ASS GREAT PLAYER?

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That being said, there is some good PvP going on. Alcoholics!!!
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Shoot out to members of Alcoholics. Thats what PvP should be. They are the real players. They engage in PvP, but after the fight, they don't try to make your life miserable. You are free to go to get your corpse. Member of Alcoholics guild may even give you a hand after the fight. Salt are good guild also.

Prass Alcoholics and ban those pricks at apex. (I heard, there are few good players at apex, so exception for those of course) apex is main reason for some players to leave Red and apex is main reason population is so small. apex is cancer. Server would do much better if apex and most apex members would be permanently banned.

p.s.
no this is not a rant, just pointing out few facts....

[Penish]

Pivo sounds like he lost a more then a few times on a pvp server, back to blue bud.

[EatitNerd]

Pivo sounds like he lost a more then a few times on a pvp server, back to blue bud.

[Tune]

Tune was killing someone several times, over and over when that player was just trying to get to his corpse.

where / when was this?

i dont even play enough to corpse camp some one like that indefinitely, or even care

the few times i did pvp outside a raid setting, well, u can lns

its a pvp server dood

[pivo]

where / when was this?

I wasn't there, I don't remember player who was being killed several time at corpse run, but I can tell you what was happening in /OOC and I engaged with conversation with you there too. You will probably remember after I post this.

I think you were on this character: Hardwork I was told this is Tune. If this is not you, my apology.

It happened few weeks ago. I asked you why are you keep killing him. You responded because of lack of his LNS announcement. This is just an excuse to be a dick, since if he can't defend himself against you fully geared, he can't have any chances as naked. Everyone knows this. You were making excuses, how you have to kill him, for your safety, so he doesn't gank you on his way to loot his corpse. (not your exact words, but meaning is the same)

Do you recall now?

Player did announce in /OOC that he is going to loot corpse!

He just didn't use that "proper" wording. "Hardwork" killed that player several times, despite players in /OOC started to complain about this. You were having fun, stating something is this regard, how we all know you will eventually get bored and you will log out and then we can go our marry ways. Not your exact words, but that was the meaning. So I took it, once you (well "Hardwork") get bored killing that poor fellow (was using 'his' but don't know the gender) he will eventually be allowed to loot his corpse.

Due to outcry and /OOC backlash, that poor fellow was actually allowed to finally loot corpse before "Hardwork" logged out. What a mercy.

Personally, that was second defining moment I didn't log in for weeks. Things like this is killing it for me. I'm mid level, have several toons, all in rags and I don't feel like spending lot of time on a server where players like Twigy, Hardwork... are having fun trying to make other players life miserable.

No wonder players like this complaining about implemented rules. Dead server? No wonder!

It could be that maybe was not Hardwork but one of these: Shehulk, Hector, kromax, Liontamer, Drybone? I was told all these are Tune's alts. I think it was Hardwork though.

So, Hardwork, Twigy (and similar ones) do you guys want server empty? And do you feel heroic? Great players?

[Penish]

The server is empty you fucking retard, lol

[pivo]

Pivo sounds like he lost a more then a few times on a pvp server, back to blue bud.

Not really. But I did get trained by NPC's thanks to twigy, when I was too low level for twigy to attack me directly.

The sad part is, Red is best of all three p99 servers. If Red will be too toxic, I will go somewhere else, I'm trying TAKP now. Nice players there, nice, small community. But bigger than Red here.

I'm not on Red because of PvP. (although I don't mind a good PvP as long as it not to feed sick desires of sociopaths. I stated how there are players like Alcoholics, and others doing good, healthy(sic! lol) PvP)

I'm on red because not everything is perma camped. Because there is not crazy chit going on at high levels. Because Red is best of all three servers, period.

But if enough pricks will try to be well, pricks, yeah, I will look at other options. I play to have fun, not to be endlessly grifed. (hmm I never know the proper spelling for this word)

Per your comment, you must be one from apex, I'm wondering? I would rather not play than be part of that chity community ;)

To bad, there are sick players that are trying their best, to kill Red server.

[pivo]

The server is empty you fucking retard, lol

Ahh, the way you are expressing yourself, you definitely are in apex guild. In that case, look in the mirror when tossing wording like retard around.

And my point is, (I understand you have hard time gasping what I'm trying to say) server would be less empty is this things I mention in previous posts would stop. So, less apex, more Red. Simple as that.

Less sociopaths, better servers health. Not hard to understand, unless you are one of them.

So, if you still don't get it, then I give up lol

P.s.
Since you got so triggered, are you happen to be twigy? That player like to curse just like you, when being called out in PM.

[Berryman]

Can't be so empty with NToV dragons dying one after the other imo. The server has low population for sure, but that doesn't mean it is empty and can't recover. Even if you add words like retard, fucking or whatever, empty is 0 and the only time is saw the server having 0 on was after a restart, so login have fun and stop talking nonsense.

[Tune]

Pivo I think u are an idiot

I've logged hardworking after 30 mins of pvp and told them I was doing it

I dont care to cc

[pivo]

Pivo I think u are an idiot

I've logged hardworking after 30 mins of pvp and told them I was doing it

I dont care to cc

So it is you!

Yes it happened inside 30 minutes. You were keep killing that poor player who tried to loot his corpse. Several players in /ooc started complaining about you. I had conversation with you about this. You were making lame excuses. In the end you mercifully let that poor player finally loot his corpse.

I've logged hardworking after 30 mins of pvp and told them I was doing it

Keep killing someone who is naked on CR after you already won PvP, is not a PvP, it is being a dick, a prick, etc...

So now that I know that was you, you are one of the toxic players, that are contributing to low count on Red server. Thanks to you and few other sick sociopaths like you. No wonder you see me as an idiot. Wouldn't expect nothing less from person like you.

Earlier you and players like you are permanently banned from the server, better will be for the server.

(ah, but you don't want to be some kind of rules implemented. go figure...)

I really wonder, what kind of person you are in RL? One can only imagine!!! Poor people around you...

Anyway, logging off, have the last one :-)

[Tune]

Na u are wrong bud

I killed em and they bind rushed me and continued pelling

I was still able to log out within 30 mins

This is an isolated event over the span of months

U are the toxic one pushing a false narrative

[Berryman]

If I wouldn't know that you are a notorious liar, I would really think that you are playing a different game then the rest of us Tune. There is really a huge difference in your and our perception about stuff that happened. I have no clue what pivo is talking about here, but what I know is that if I say he is right, I have a 90%+ chance, just by looking at your past conversations that I didn't make a wrong statement.

[Feanol]

all grats to 30 grown ass men crying

It's starting to look like 40 grown ass men crying buddy. Been having a blast killing Dragons with my friends!

[Tune]

If I wouldn't know that you are a notorious liar, I would really think that you are playing a different game then the rest of us Tune. There is really a huge difference in your and our perception about stuff that happened. I have no clue what pivo is talking about here, but what I know is that if I say he is right, I have a 90%+ chance, just by looking at your past conversations that I didn't make a wrong statement.

how am i a liar when we both agreed this took under 30 mins of being logged in

how is that even enough time to cc and grief some1

[Tassador]

Justice for pixels!!!!

[Penish]

Whoa Andain used his Feanol account to post in a red section? Dayummm...