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WAAAAH! RACISMS WAAAH!
FIxed
Lol you forgot the mention the whole part where yes, voting hours are expanded in rural counties. For the cities of GA, its backwards. Just so happens that black people mostly live in the cities... So they shortened the hours, took off a few days, and shortened the voting windows all round for the cities. The places where more people live than anywhere else, they have shorter hours. The rural areas have longer hours...
Show me where it reduced hours in the cities if you've done all the reading. I've read a lot of this bill and it doesn't seem like you really have. I don't want to know what you heard on the radio. I've found nothing to support what you say. Show me, please. Cite what were the hours before and how did the law shorten them, otherwise you're doing exactly what I said not to and just regurgitating (AM radio) media talking points. I am open to new verifiable information. That was never even brought up by the black former GA residents I talked with either so I am curious. Also, keep in mind what I stated here from CNN directly, In the 2020 general election Fulton, Dekalb, Clayton and various other Democratic strongholds held their early voting hours between 7am and 7pm so they would NOT be forced into reductions.(thanks, CNN) Altanta is in these counties.
You only expanded a little on what I said about being able to replace election officials, but failed to acknowledge what has to happen BEFORE they can be replaced. It can't just be done on a whim like you insinuate in your post. I also said this is an eyebrow raising point and it deserves some scrutiny, but it's talked about like they can just wake up one day and say we don't like these results, you're out and our guy is in. It doesn't work like that. There should absolutely be a way to remove election officials that fail to perform over multiple elections, and I don't agree with the exact system lined out in this bill for appointing replacements.
Everyone is so focused on this drop box thing, too, and it's getting misconstrued. The expanded number of drop boxes were a COVID thing. How do less unattended randomly placed drop boxes hurt voting when you can mail, submit via fax, or submit your vote using the GA online portal? Postage is already paid on the envelopes, btw. When you require drop boxes be present when they weren't before, that is in fact an expansion. Trying to compare this law to what happened during COVID2020 is not apples to apples. You have to look at how things were before the wildly varying temporary election laws of 2020 were implemented.
Baler
04-05-2021, 03:16 PM
Georgia voting law change was about a fair election for everyone who votes, regardless of the color of their skin.
Horza
04-05-2021, 03:21 PM
https://i.imgur.com/7uqIPQJ.jpg
Tentarro
04-05-2021, 03:23 PM
FIxed
This but also for Horza.
Baffles my mind that these 14 year olds even knew about EQ let alone P99.
https://i.imgur.com/7uqIPQJ.jpg
LOL another self own
Guy can't help himself
Horza
04-05-2021, 03:27 PM
If you repeat it enough surely it will come true, but you have to believe.
Cecily
04-05-2021, 03:29 PM
Thank god Republican politicians are protecting us from the many hazards of volunteers offering water while people wait in line.
If they're too weak to survive 0.5 to 12 hours without water, do we really want their vote?
If you repeat it enough surely it will come true, but you have to believe.
Not "every" vote is ever counted in an election genius
There are always levels of fraud and ballots thrown out for a variety of other reasons
You're just a meme because you don't have any thoughts of your own. Everything is "racisms!" and you're most likely whiter than Christmas Snow
Horza
04-05-2021, 03:44 PM
Sorry your guy lost.
hobart
04-05-2021, 04:02 PM
Georgia voting law change was about a fair election for everyone who votes, regardless of the color of their skin.
What was unfair about it before?
Baler
04-05-2021, 04:03 PM
What was unfair about it before?
If you have to ask you don't know.
Jibartik
04-05-2021, 04:04 PM
All my life I wanted to be able to look up my vote somewhere to know for sure it was counted.
But now that makes me an alt righter.
Sad.
Baler
04-05-2021, 04:07 PM
All my life I wanted to be able to look up my vote somewhere to know for sure it was counted.
But now that makes me an alt righter.
Sad.
(that's what they want)
Tracking who voted for who. This way anyone who voted for trump will be put in a death camp by the left.
Oh you think that's a joke or some twisted radical idea? Nope,. AOC wants this.
She slept her way to the top to put conservatives in death camps.
I'm sorry if this is harsh but the sky is blue and grass is green.
Jibartik
04-05-2021, 04:09 PM
That's a rather extreme theory but Im ready
https://i.imgur.com/DBO16lN.gif
Horza
04-05-2021, 04:10 PM
What was unfair about it before?
Who won?
Jibartik
04-05-2021, 04:11 PM
Hillary :(
(Pepperidge farm remembahs when the left was concerned with this stuff :o )
Baler
04-05-2021, 04:12 PM
ABC
Anybody But Clinton
Sorry your guy lost.
Trump won in a landslide
Horza
04-05-2021, 04:14 PM
Trump won in a landslide
Courts disagree, friend.
Baler
04-05-2021, 04:15 PM
Trump won in a landslide
REAL
https://i.imgur.com/kMiI9fk.gif
It's fun watching you idiots regurgitate everything you see on TV and the written news like you actually know something while leaving out the real pertinent details you're too lazy to look-up. The faith you put in the media on both sides is just saddening. Some information about the new voting laws which can all be verified.
The Water Thing: They set minimum distances from polling facilities for campaigning at 150 feet and 25 from an independent voting stand. Sounds reasonable. What the law changed was that you no longer can leave your campaign stand, walk up to people in line, then walk back to your candidate's booth to get around the no campaigning laws just because you don't have a pin or candidate's shirt on - everyone still sees you go back to your booth. The law also encourages polling centers to provide public access water on site, and YOU CAN STILL BRING YOUR OWN FOOD OR WATER OR PURCHASE FOOD OR WATER AROUND THE FACILITY. It just can't be handed out for free by campaigners trying to skirt the laws.
Voting Hours: This bill actually guaranteed increased voting hours. Previously, counties had to open for early voting during primaries and general elections from 9am to 4pm with Sundays not mentioned (Sunday voting was not a regular thing in the past throughout the state before COVID2020 according to what I've found and first hand accounts I've received). Under the new law (2) Saturdays of early voting are now MANDATORY -- from 9am to 5pm at minimum and from 7am to 7pm if the counties desire -- and two Sundays are made optional at the county's discretion.
The old law said early voting had to take place during 'normal business hours' on weekdays, leaving counties to decide what counts as 'normal'. The new law sets a specific time period, requiring early voting to be offered from 9am to 5pm. However, it also says counties can open early voting to be offered as early as 7am to 7pm if they desire. In the 2020 general election Fulton, Dekalb, Clayton and various other Democratic strongholds held their early voting hours between 7am and 7pm so they would NOT be forced into reductions.(thanks, CNN)
Voter ID: To vote or request an absentee ballot you must provide (1) source of identification. While state issued driver's license or ID number are the most common acceptable forms of ID, the new law allows that if you have neither you can instead provide a utility bill, bank statement, or government issued check receipt as a form of identification (there may be more that aren't listed). That's a pretty low bar of entry considering how many people in GA can now provide the government check receipt from their stimulus payments. People on government services can also use those receipts.
Absentee Ballots: Anyone can request an absentee ballot up to 78 days before an election day for any reason if you provide one of the many acceptable forms of ID. The county must mail those out at the latest 29 days before the election. Absentee ballots must now be received 11 days prior to the election (old law was 4 days) to ensure adequate time to verify and count. This was changed due to the expected increase in absentee ballots and so we don't run into counties counting ballots 7 days after the election as we saw during COVID2020. Take note that these ballots can be returned in multiple ways: drop if off at a early voting drop box/station, return via UPSP mail, via the state's online portal, of even via FAX!
Other notable election improvements from the law: The new law now REQUIRES a minimum of (1) absentee/early voting drop box IN ALL DISTRICTS where there were no laws requiring it before. This drop box must be located at election offices or early voting sites. I'm murky on the details beyond this initial MANDATORY drop box being located at a polling facility vs any additional drop box being located elsewhere. I have more research to do on the wording here.
Another notable improvement is that the law forces voting precincts that had lines of more than one hour in the previous general election, or did not complete voting by one hour after the poll-closing time in the previous election, that the county officials have to reduce the size of the precinct or get more poll workers, voting equipment of both before the next election. This was the most complained about topic that I could find while researching black voter sentiment from 2020 and prior elections in GA. Previously, no law had addressed these long lines and this is considered a big upgrade to minority voting, but is mentioned in almost none of the media research I did aside from one CNN article as a footnote. Another positive to this is it should reduce the 'need' for people to be handing out water in line.
Removing Election Officials: County election officials can be removed from their posts if over at least (2) elections over a (2) year period the officials have demonstrated repeated nonfeasance, malfeasance, or gross negligence regarding election law, or if county officials committed at least three violations of election law on board regulations in the last (2) general election cycles and had not sufficiently remedied these violations. This official(s) that are removed, will be replaced by a State Election Board appointed non-partisan individual. This is really the only thing in the bill people should be scoffing at. While the bar is set decently high to remove the officials, appointing an individual through a possibly partisan board doesn't sound right. While this does raise a few eyebrows we might never see it happen, and it would not have helped either Trump or Stacey Abrams with their disputed GA election results.
My thoughts:
Remember folks, politicians don't really care about your skin color unless they are using it for political advantage. I'm sure GA is full of racist fucks, but at the end of the day these politicians only care about staying in office at all costs like every other politician. I don't buy into the racist narrative about this law because if it's true these politicians are trying to keep people from the polls, they don't care what color you are outside of Red or Blue. I just don't see how this law is really keeping anyone from the polls, though. Being able to prove who you are in some form or another is just part of being a citizen of this country. To say that people shouldn't have to provide the bare minimum of identification or make a bare minimum effort to vote for our elected leaders makes no sense when you think about every other thing in the country you have to provide ID to do or access. They've also said for years that signature verification alone is slow and often-times unreliable. Signatures change over time and can vary wildly making them difficult to authenticate.
Feel free to crack open the bill or spend hours of your time trying to counter my findings. I am 100% open to it, but it better not be some vaguely worded MSNBC or CNN article just saying 'this bill adds obstacles to voting for minorities.' You parrots need to get back to the bird cage.
Show me where it reduced hours in the cities if you've done all the reading. I've read a lot of this bill and it doesn't seem like you really have. I don't want to know what you heard on the radio. I've found nothing to support what you say. Show me, please. Cite what were the hours before and how did the law shorten them, otherwise you're doing exactly what I said not to and just regurgitating (AM radio) media talking points. I am open to new verifiable information. That was never even brought up by the black former GA residents I talked with either so I am curious. Also, keep in mind what I stated here from CNN directly, In the 2020 general election Fulton, Dekalb, Clayton and various other Democratic strongholds held their early voting hours between 7am and 7pm so they would NOT be forced into reductions.(thanks, CNN) Altanta is in these counties.
You only expanded a little on what I said about being able to replace election officials, but failed to acknowledge what has to happen BEFORE they can be replaced. It can't just be done on a whim like you insinuate in your post. I also said this is an eyebrow raising point and it deserves some scrutiny, but it's talked about like they can just wake up one day and say we don't like these results, you're out and our guy is in. It doesn't work like that. There should absolutely be a way to remove election officials that fail to perform over multiple elections, and I don't agree with the exact system lined out in this bill for appointing replacements.
Everyone is so focused on this drop box thing, too, and it's getting misconstrued. The expanded number of drop boxes were a COVID thing. How do less unattended randomly placed drop boxes hurt voting when you can mail, submit via fax, or submit your vote using the GA online portal? Postage is already paid on the envelopes, btw. When you require drop boxes be present when they weren't before, that is in fact an expansion. Trying to compare this law to what happened during COVID2020 is not apples to apples. You have to look at how things were before the wildly varying temporary election laws of 2020 were implemented.
ICYMI. Horza trying to bury these points of discussion as fast as possible with his super insightful posting.
Horza
04-05-2021, 04:29 PM
ICYMI. Horza trying to bury these points of discussion as fast as possible with his super insightful posting.
Someone inscribe this disingenuous conservative's comments on stone tablets for posterity.
(that's what they want)
Tracking who voted for who. This way anyone who voted for trump will be put in a death camp by the left.
Oh you think that's a joke or some twisted radical idea? Nope,. AOC wants this.
She slept her way to the top to put conservatives in death camps.
I'm sorry if this is harsh but the sky is blue and grass is green.
https://i.imgur.com/cJTpQLG.jpg
Courts disagree, friend.
Incorrect
The evidence was never allowed to see the inside of a court room
Every lawsuit was dismissed based upon technicalities and questionable determinations such as "standing"
There was no way they were ever going to allow The Truth to come out - Potato Prop had to be rammed through at any cost
Baler
04-05-2021, 04:34 PM
https://i.imgur.com/WhrjEHu.jpg
Someone inscribe this disingenuous conservative's comments on stone tablets for posterity.
Thanks, Horza. We know how much everyone around here really appreciates your genuine and thoughtful musings. Heaven forbid people actually see real information about the topic of the thread instead of your natterings at the top of every page.
Horza
04-05-2021, 04:42 PM
The next three years will be like Groundhog Day except we're stuck in November 2nd because Republicans are incapable of understanding there was even a possibility that Trump could lose.
Baler
04-05-2021, 04:43 PM
The next three years will be like Groundhog Day
It will be for biden, since he has dementia.
Cassawary
04-05-2021, 04:46 PM
TK is my most feared poster, followed closely by Danth.
Azeth a distant 3rd.
Baler
04-05-2021, 04:48 PM
TK is my most feared poster, followed closely by Danth.
Azeth a distant 3rd.
azeth just exposed himself as a radical left communist. I think he lost a fair bit of power in that exposure. His rogue's backstab damage went way down.
Horza
04-05-2021, 04:50 PM
It will be for biden, since he has dementia.
https://i.imgur.com/Mhhm8NZ.jpg
Baler
04-05-2021, 04:54 PM
I never said he was the greatest ever. you need to get outside in the sun.
Horza
04-05-2021, 04:55 PM
Just don't look too closely.
Baler
04-05-2021, 04:56 PM
Just get out of your moms basement horza.
Really some exercise like a nice walk in the spring sunshine does the body well
The next three years will be like Groundhog Day except we're stuck in November 2nd because Republicans are incapable of understanding there was even a possibility that Trump could lose.
Nobody with a function brain believes Potato "won"
He supposedly received 10 million more votes than Obama in 2008 and can't break 5K on a livestream when he gives a speech
His ministry of censorship and propaganda is working overtime wiping the massive down vote ratio as well
It's a joke - Like you
Baler
04-05-2021, 05:00 PM
https://i.imgur.com/iXYK0Ks.gif
Tentarro
04-05-2021, 05:05 PM
If they're too weak to survive 0.5 to 12 hours without water, do we really want their vote?
If it takes you 12 hours to cast a vote you might be a dumb fuck, early voting options are available.
Courts disagree, friend.
Courts never wanted to look at it because of the kooky left burning down cities over the overdose of a drug addict.
The next three years will be like Groundhog Day except we're stuck in November 2nd because Republicans are incapable of understanding there was even a possibility that Trump could lose.
Let me put it in terms your 14 year old brain can understand:
Leftists do really sus things so everyone immediately calls them the imposter, however leftists cry and say they'll end the game and swat you if you vote them off.
It's more complicated than that but you're kind of a moron so, y'know.
Nobody with a function brain believes Potato "won"
He supposedly received 10 million more votes than Obama in 2008 and can't break 5K on a livestream when he gives a speech
His ministry of censorship and propaganda is working overtime wiping the massive down vote ratio as well
It's a joke - Like you
Obama came to campaign for him and couldn't even break double digits in participation.
Horza
04-05-2021, 05:09 PM
Nobody with a function brain believes Potato "won"
He supposedly received 10 million more votes than Obama in 2008 and can't break 5K on a livestream when he gives a speech
His ministry of censorship and propaganda is working overtime wiping the massive down vote ratio as well
It's a joke - Like you
Who watches politicians' livestreams other than boomers glued to cable news networks?
Baler
04-05-2021, 05:11 PM
Who watches politicians' livestreams other than boomers glued to cable news networks?
You do because you care so much.
Who watches politicians' livestreams other than boomers glued to cable news networks?
Bruh it's 2021
That's where most of the eye balls are
Trump was averaging 120K views on 1 channel with his speeches. Some of these speeches (on 1 channel) broke 275K
This is actual concurrent viewship LIVE
Cumulatively over all online media it was in the millions (per speech) LIVE
This isn't even taking into account views after over the following days which were millions more
Biden is waving to empty fields and empty lawns in front of the WH
He's an installed puppet and it's an absolute embarrassment - like you are to your parents
Horza
04-05-2021, 05:42 PM
Bruh it's 2021
That's where most of the eye balls are
Trump was averaging 120K views on 1 channel with his speeches. Some of these speeches (on 1 channel) broke 275K
This is actual concurrent viewship LIVE
Cumulatively over all online media it was in the millions (per speech) LIVE
This isn't even taking into account views after over the following days which were millions more
Biden is waving to empty fields and empty lawns in front of the WH
He's an installed puppet and it's an absolute embarrassment - like you are to your parents
Trump supporters are social media-addicted sycophants? I'm shocked!
Baler
04-05-2021, 05:47 PM
the problem with horza is they don't understand they're brainwashed.
Nocht
04-05-2021, 05:55 PM
Careful guys hes gonna post the pic of Biden eating ice cream if you keep egging him on.
Jibartik
04-05-2021, 05:59 PM
Bruh it's 2021
That's where most of the eye balls are
Trump was averaging 120K views on 1 channel with his speeches. Some of these speeches (on 1 channel) broke 275K
I remember being amazed by this, but then I thought of all of you, and I was like, lol those viewers are not going to leave their houses to vote theyre just freaks like me and people in straw huts all around the world that like the drama lmao
Horza
04-05-2021, 06:00 PM
Careful guys hes gonna post the pic of Biden eating ice cream if you keep egging him on.
It's not really necessary when they're already so riled up.
Cassawary
04-05-2021, 06:10 PM
so riled up.
LrkEc2V3mO4
hobart
04-05-2021, 08:33 PM
There was no way they were ever going to allow The Truth to come out - Potato Prop had to be rammed through at any cost
You mean the 40+ registered Republican judges scattered throughout the country of the almost 90 judges that read/reviewed complaints? No wonder. What was in it for them?
You mean the 40+ registered Republican judges scattered throughout the country of the almost 90 judges that read/reviewed complaints? No wonder. What was in it for them?
They didn't want their courtrooms burned down by BLM/Antifa
Horza
04-05-2021, 09:26 PM
Sorry your guy lost.
Sorry your guy lost.
Trump won in a landslide
Tentarro
04-05-2021, 10:04 PM
You mean the 40+ registered Republican judges scattered throughout the country of the almost 90 judges that read/reviewed complaints? No wonder. What was in it for them?
People went fucking batshit insane over a drug-addict ODing during a routine, done by the books, arrest.
I wouldn't doubt if the judges received plenty of threats.
Horza
04-05-2021, 10:09 PM
LrkEc2V3mO4
People went fucking batshit insane over a drug-addict ODing during a routine, done by the books, arrest.
I wouldn't doubt if the judges received plenty of threats.
The only people who actually voted for Potato Biden are Horza, Gravydoo and Kaveh
Rader
04-05-2021, 10:36 PM
The only people who actually voted for Potato Biden are Horza, Gravydoo and Kaveh
in other words, the 3 biggest F-ing.... need I say more?
Kaveh
04-06-2021, 09:33 AM
By the books arrest with a knee on the neck
George Floyd is a piece of shit, but he was someone’s child. Are you guys human? Go to church
Kaveh
04-06-2021, 09:34 AM
I’m praying for you guys. A lot of malice in your hearts. When you meet your maker, you won’t like what that costs you. SAD BIGLY!!!
magnetaress
04-06-2021, 10:04 AM
I wanted to foot the bill on Floyds extended rehab learning organic vegan yoga farming while the state gave his children the opportunity to join the NSA upon graduation.
Tentarro
04-06-2021, 03:15 PM
By the books arrest with a knee on the neck
George Floyd is a piece of shit, but he was someone’s child. Are you guys human? Go to church
Pictures show on the back, video shows on the back.
Just admit you're a frequent liar already.
Nocht
04-06-2021, 03:20 PM
I’m praying for you guys. A lot of malice in your hearts. When you meet your maker, you won’t like what that costs you. SAD BIGLY!!!
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
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