Best race for monk?

[mjrau]

Ok So I've read some of the help guides and the Project 1999 wiki and I am unsure whether an iksar or a human is the best for a monk. Is being hated everywhere and doing less damage a good payoff for the regen and bonus AC?

source: http://wiki.project1999.org/index.php/Monk

[Ledzepp02]

doing less damage

You do less damage bare-handed. Thankfully Kunark allows for better opportunities than your fist.

Being a Human monk is kind of a pride thing. Also, he looks like Bonham so that's a plus.

[Kasilis]

Don't forget the xp penalty iksar have. But for me Iksar are the best race ingame. But I think this is more a personal choice. They might have a lot of disadvantages but you ll benefit of regeneration/ac even with max level. Had an iksar monk myself on live.. fungi+iksar regen was fun, haha.

lvl 60 Regen Rate (Human): 7 sitting, 5 FD, 4 standing
lvl 60 Regen Rate (Iksar): 18 sitting, 14 FD, 12 standing

If this is your first character on the server you ll have to stick to kunark, because a monk without WR bag and 10 FS weapons + 500 coins needs a bank from time to time.. Or you place a mule in ec and ask a friend to transfer some money/items to use him as a bank.

So it's like:
Iksar better Stats/ac/regen/kos/xp penalty vs. human gimp who uses Dragon Punch and levels faster + can bank in antonica and faydwer

Any questions?!

[mjrau]

Im thinking if its just a bang around bit of fun I might stick with human. The problem will be if I really start liking to play it lol. I might just make my iksar one and see if I can get him to gfay. I reckon I can get enough faction over a period of time to be able to get into kelethan... not sure

[Baa]

Human... so you are somewhat unique compared to the 2 million iksar monks on the server

[luzbel]

iksar allways

[Messianic]

You do less damage bare-handed.

There's no damage difference, just speed (I understand that you meant overall DPS, but i'm just sharpening what you said). The difference is very tiny, and the difference disappears once max haste is applied. Epic equalizes fists for both races anyhow.

http://www.monkly-business.net/forums/showthread.php?p=100572

Iksar is easily better in the end in nearly every way in terms of combat (DPS is equivalent in all cases except for bare fists, in which case the difference is small if not non-existent), but just remember that it takes far longer to level to 60, you have faction issues (although honestly I would rarely leave kunark as an iksar), etc...

[falkun]

Monk... so you are somewhat unique compared to the 2 million monks on the server

FTFY

[Knuckle]

dont be a little bitch iksar, human monks can yellow text a player as good as an iksar, that regen don't add up when you get T-staff inerrflame'd bro.

[oper8r00]

Please help me in welcoming another_shitty_monk16749!!

Seriously, unless you are ledzepp or in the "old school/classic era monks" gtfo.

Too many awful monks around.

[Doors]

lol @ the hater tags. I heard one melee class that gets a level 60 item and can then solo with it as effectively as a naked level 12 necro or mage is bullshit, nerf monks now please. Blue servers are fucking hard as fuck.

Iksars are probably the better monk race but a 40% experience penalty is annoying. Plus you can't move around as easily as a human.

[Numbers_]

I had the same dilemma since I started here after kunark and I went with Iksar.

Honest tho, you probably can't go wrong with either race. The faction stuff is a pain and it would be nice if I didn't have to deal with it. The experience penalty sucks as well.

Is the night vision, regen, forage and ac worth it? I have no basis for comparison, but I couldn't imagine having to wait longer in between fights than I already do while soloing. Then again, you wouldn't have to kill as many things as I do as a Iksar....

I like some of the Iksar animations better (flying kick, feign) and some of the human animations better (walking, punching). Overall I think the Iksar look cooler. I realize that's a very personal opinion though.

Human monks do more damage unarmed, but who fights unarmed? You could probably get two fighting batons for under 800pp total (8/20 weapons vs 8/36 fists at my level) or camp a Iksar Berserker Club (worst camp ever).

It looks like the regen really takes off post 50, but I have no personal experience with that.

[Striiker]

It is all a matter of taste. I went with human because I knew there would be a lot of Iksar monks out there. It was my personal taste. I wasn't worried over regen or anything else. It's also why I went with Human for my Shadow Knight. I preferred it over the many Troll and Ogre SK's and I preferred the look. Choose the race you like and go with it. You'll be glad you did.

[Stumpes]

Iksars have far better regen, but you need to weigh that against being KoS to most cities in the old world. Once velious comes out it's not a big deal, but that could still be over a year away.

[lanystvyl]

an Ogre monk would be cool. I can see the flying itchy butt kicks now. lloll

I think ikky is best monk.

[Structures_Fall]

In the end, they're the same thing, minor regen and AC aren't going to make a difference when you're pulling NToV or such.

[dredge]

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[baalzy]

human h2h delay is 1 lower then iksar h2h delay (when using bare fists).

Humans have 5 higher base STR then iksar which means they'll do slightly more per-hit but eventually this doesn't matter once your gear + shaman buffs causes you to hit 255 str.

on the other hand, Iksar has higher dex which would mean more procs if using a Tstaff. Ultimately I'd vote for Iksar as the stronger choice.

[Halfelfbard]

human h2h delay is 1 lower then iksar h2h delay (when using bare fists).

Skill Triple Attack
Skill Flying Kick minimum damage raised to 48.
Discipline: Ashenhand
Regen Rate (Human): 7 sitting, 5 FD, 4 standing
Regen Rate (Iksar): 18 sitting, 14 FD, 12 standing
Fists Damage/Delay (Human): 14/26
Fists Damage/Delay (Iksar): 14/27
Weight Limit: 24 stones
Improved Damage Table

For lvl 60 monk. Pick ur death.

[Messianic]

human h2h delay is 1 lower then iksar h2h delay (when using bare fists).

Skill Triple Attack
Skill Flying Kick minimum damage raised to 48.
Discipline: Ashenhand
Regen Rate (Human): 7 sitting, 5 FD, 4 standing
Regen Rate (Iksar): 18 sitting, 14 FD, 12 standing
Fists Damage/Delay (Human): 14/26
Fists Damage/Delay (Iksar): 14/27
Weight Limit: 24 stones
Improved Damage Table

For lvl 60 monk. Pick ur death.

I mentioned this, and pointed out its basically irrelevant - especially with max haste. Iksar regen and AC easily top the DPS benefit you get from this, particularly if you have access to a peacebringer or higher.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Humans rule, iksar drool.

[DiamondDust]

Iksar... They are the best of everything.
Period.

[Aprio]

Please help me in welcoming another_shitty_monk16749!!

Seriously, unless you are ledzepp or in the "old school/classic era monks" gtfo.

Too many awful monks around.

Go away, R and F is missing its troll.

I chose Iksar as well and haven't regretted it yet, tried a human monk but couldn't get him past 12.

[Splooie]

Please help me in welcoming another_shitty_monk16749!!

Seriously, unless you are ledzepp or in the "old school/classic era monks" gtfo.

Too many awful monks around.

lol

[Kender]

lol @ the hater tags. I heard one melee class that gets a level 60 item and can then solo with it as effectively as a naked level 12 necro or mage is bullshit, nerf monks now please. Blue servers are fucking hard as fuck.

Iksars are probably the better monk race but a 40% experience penalty is annoying. Plus you can't move around as easily as a human.

it's 20%

and lizard monks can go anywhere they like. FD and sneak means you can even use hostile merchants

better AC better regen better swimming animation... just better

[Splooie]

it's 20%

and lizard monks can go anywhere they like. FD and sneak means you can even use hostile merchants

better AC better regen better swimming animation... just better

Having a mustache almost trumps all of that. Almost...

[Rais]

Iskars are better monks. Due simply to regen. Hell I think they even get a higher ac bonus.

Of course humans is a sign of the "old school" monk who knows wtf to do. I have only seen 3 monks on this server worth calling "cream of the crop". So being a human monk isn't really a sign of anything on this server.

If you're comparing fists, at 60 there is something wrong. So it doesn't matter.

[Baa]

I am pretty surprised nobody has mentioned one thing that iksars can never have - eyepatches... enough said

[skorge]

be on the look out for a human monk named Chuck...ran into him a couple days ago...yes he got the name Chuck, lol