Red99 would be fun if

[Stasis01]

People played Everquest, which they don't.

It'll never be fun, let the dream go.

Red99 was a ghost box that sucked 99.99 % of all times and I pity for anyone who actually raided here.

[Jimjam]

Big if. True.

[Penish]

Blue raids for red 2021. AoW & Tunare going down would bring 100 people back in no time.


(Turn off pvp in raid zones) lol

[magnetaress]

Rated pretty boring. Try blue.

[Fammaden]

Turn off pvp in all zones and impose the FV roleplay server ruleset, people will play then. Also wipe it done in 21.

[Jeni]

You joined a 150+ person zerg ruined the experience for yourself and now come back and post about how no one plays. Cool.

[Tune]

I'm actually still having fun

heavy underdog in these times so if a few people joined / came back it would be more fun for me, but no biggie

not gonna beg people to play

[Quil]

If I came back

[Dulu]

Reign of Thule, the new Teams PVP server is going to be intense

[Baler]

I'm honestly beginning to believe the bandwagon that claims staff don't want to deal with the type of players who play eq pvp.

in 2021 green has mega raid guilds getting raid banned for "leadership". Can you imagine the ultimate shit show a fresh red server would produce.

[Gustoo]

Who is asking them to deal with anything?

ban RMT transactions
Enforce their rules

Make easy to enforce rules for raids. Or just make a level 50 level cap vanilla only its easier to deal with.

Make level 45 level cap unable to engage the dragons thats fine too.

[Zemgus]

People played Everquest, which they don't.

It'll never be fun, let the dream go.

Red99 was a ghost box that sucked 99.99 % of all times and I pity for anyone who actually raided here.

if i was a prison guard as well, could i help you beat these animals back?

[Disease]

Who is asking them to deal with anything?

ban RMT transactions
Enforce their rules

Make easy to enforce rules for raids. Or just make a level 50 level cap vanilla only its easier to deal with.

Make level 45 level cap unable to engage the dragons thats fine too.

Or make nothing and wait for the rest of you fools to move on.

[Gustoo]

Or make nothing and wait for the rest of you fools to move on.

That's working well for sure.

At this point, I probably won't be able to play. But I still want to see it happen.

[magnetaress]

If I had the skills and $$ I would launch my Vanilla server using the Titanium client and classic resists.

Can't download the RoF client.

[Disease]

If I had the skills and $$ I would launch my Vanilla server using the Titanium client and classic resists.

Can't download the RoF client.

There's red99, there's roz and there's a team pvp server. Thats 3 pvp servers... Not one has over a 100 people. Eq sucked then and sucks now. It would be a waste of time and money.

[Gustoo]

The focus of the EQ EMU community has allowed P99 to thrive as a gold standard server, while significantly weakening the non P99 servers. The non P99 servers don't really represent the total interest in another PVP server. The people that play a new PVP server every time are (in my mind) true pvp guys and really like to have fun. At the same time when they thought that Red 99 was going to be their sandbox and they were beat back by classic everquest blue style play (lots more people, lots more hours) it was kinda sad to see them eventually complain and leave.

I'd bet my life on 2 or 3 solid years of a new red 99 progression server which is exactly as long as the first 3 versions of the game were intended to last.

best option would be discord like they originally intended to launch, with regular resets and experimental rulesets, and permanent winners being memorialized on the p99 site somewhere. No burnout, you win or lose and you try again next time if you feel like it.

[A Knight]

Red had a pop of 250 for a while and it was awesome. That's all I'll need. I would port people in my guild for free just to get more people playing. Maybe throw some plat out at a noobie. I have to take a break from EQ for a while right now unfortunately.

[Disease]

Red had a pop of 250 for a while and it was awesome. That's all I'll need. I would port people in my guild for free just to get more people playing. Maybe throw some plat out at a noobie. I have to take a break from EQ for a while right now unfortunately.

250 pop at the launch for a month or two.... Lets all talk about that 10 years later..... Get help.

[Gustoo]

The request is for a new server so that there will be pop for X amount of time. Ideally there is good pop for a long time but worst case scenario, a few months or a year. That’s better than 5 years of flatline.

[Baler]

How about a UO style pvp server,.

Everyone starts Blue, and after 3 player kills you have 3 long term murder counts.

All city guards will attack you on sight if you're a murderer.

[Gustoo]

I would support literally any PVP ruleset on a fresh wiped server.

The 3 player kills (possibly resetting after a long period of time) would go a long way to making a more normal PVP community and by normal I mean live-like

But with multiple free accounts and so many ways to get into the game now it would be easier than the past to just be a murderer forever and have a non murderer alt do your city-work.

[Baler]

I would support literally any PVP ruleset on a fresh wiped server.

The 3 player kills (possibly resetting after a long period of time) would go a long way to making a more normal PVP community and by normal I mean live-like

But with multiple free accounts and so many ways to get into the game now it would be easier than the past to just be a murderer forever and have a non murderer alt do your city-work.

Yeah on live uo, it's 24 hours of in game time to burn off 1 long term murder count. On some private servers it's 72 hours for 1 long term murder count.
To no longer be a red you'll have to drop below 3 long term murder counts. However some murderers enjoy stacking up long term murder counts as a form of bragging rights.
You can only gain murder counts by killing blues, killing other reds doesn't reward murder counts.

The whole idea being is to separate pks from blues. It helps build communities around the two activates. Some enjoy being blue others enjoy being red. you'll find the group you fit in with quick. Then one side hunts the other sides,. aka a teams systems without having a teams system.

[Gustoo]

Yeah its basically a hard coded PK / anti PK relationship in UO and that all translated to Rallos Zek but definitely not to Red 99.

Could be OK, anything is better than leaving red 99 flatlined for another 10 years. I guess deleting the server and not making a new one would be worse? Dunno.

[JayDee]

Sorry to say, but I don't think enough people would play at this point. I don't blame the current red population, but they are their own worst enemy. Rogaen could prolly wipe with a clear conscience if there were 0 players.

[A Knight]

250 pop at the launch for a month or two.... Lets all talk about that 10 years later..... Get help.

Nah I don't think so. It may have been at launch but I don't think it was. When I played and it was 250 pop it seemed to be a couple years into it.

[Tradesonred]

I'm honestly beginning to believe the bandwagon that claims staff don't want to deal with the type of players who play eq pvp.

in 2021 green has mega raid guilds getting raid banned for "leadership". Can you imagine the ultimate shit show a fresh red server would produce.

They dont have to manage anything. Thats what fucked up red, people like Rogean who most likely never played a server like Rallos and thought LOL u think were gonna let people play EQ like they play call of duty? And then proceeded to do absolutely nothing as the worst toxic elements of the server abused that ill-advised xp loss in pvp mechanic to depopulate the nice 600 pop we had at launch, with the griefers literally bragging daily on the forums for months that they were "griefing people off the server" and Nizzar using the mechanic to cockblock anyone from entering places like fear to build up his RMT empire.

[Tradesonred]

Also, one thing that came out of this debacle is that derubael was also dabbling in RMT. I dont know the details but xp loss in pvp made it that nihilum held a stranglehold on raid content for a long time. So its possible that since derubael had something to gain from red being a shit show, maybe thats why red was allowed to be bled dry of its players for so long and why its in sad ass shape it is today. Theres the issue of trust, after they nerfed xp in kunark, like half of the already crippled pop of the server quit. Like why would you play and invest serious time on a server where devs seem to have abandoned it to 2 GMs who seem to not know what the fuck they are doing (Sirken and Derubael)

[Tradesonred]

250 pop at the launch for a month or two.... Lets all talk about that 10 years later..... Get help.

Red had 600 or close to 600 at launch. Its plain evident xp loss after a pvp death ruined the pop. I still remember my incredulousness at that on launch day after i saw holocaust 10v1 some poor schmuck on their way to Guk. Like lol is this for real? The experience was nothing like Rallos. People didnt wanna fight zergs, at all, never, because of the huge sting of xp death. No xp loss would have meant people still had a chance against zergs, could have had fun trying to guerilla them out of places like guk. I took a year+ to fix it and by then the pop was just bled dry.

[EatitNerd]

Reign of Thule, the new Teams PVP server is going to be intense

Lol’d hard, intensely less population than red99 and the RoZ shit show divided amongst THREE teams instead of basically 2. Hard pass

[Amyas]

Unroot dragons

[starkind]

Yeah on live uo, it's 24 hours of in game time to burn off 1 long term murder count. On some private servers it's 72 hours for 1 long term murder count.
To no longer be a red you'll have to drop below 3 long term murder counts. However some murderers enjoy stacking up long term murder counts as a form of bragging rights.
You can only gain murder counts by killing blues, killing other reds doesn't reward murder counts.

The whole idea being is to separate pks from blues. It helps build communities around the two activates. Some enjoy being blue others enjoy being red. you'll find the group you fit in with quick. Then one side hunts the other sides,. aka a teams systems without having a teams system.

Absolutely yep.

[Gustoo]

Yeah I would be absolutely psyched to see the UO system combined with rallos zek everquest rules. Everquest naturally had the PK / Anti PK system in place on rallos zek but in todays late game Z boy era no one has those kind of values anymore.

Even if it fell on its face we should try it for 1 year on red 2.0 vanilla edition.

[Icetech]

If it had 1 toxic person removed...