The ultimate sacrifice - to create a unique class race combo

[Cen]

If the gods of project 1999 let you break the ultimate classic rule and sacrifice all your characters and loot to create a class race combo that is normally impossible, would you do it, and what would you make?

:P

Be careful what you wish for also - some combos would find class trainers very difficult.

[Anxarcule]

I remember when reading about Everquest previews / interviews with Brad I had dreams about making a Troll monk.

[Cen]

I remember when reading about Everquest previews / interviews with Brad I had dreams about making a Troll monk.

Not a bad combo. I expect a lot of ogre monk or paladins but was wondering if anyone has a super clever combi I can't think of.

[Skarne]

Ogre Bard would be pretty sweet with that frontal stun immunity.

[CptnCanuck]

Ogre Bard would be pretty sweet with that frontal stun immunity.

I was thinking Ogre Bard as well. Troll even for the pure comical thought of picturing either race singing songs and playing instruments.

I always thought Barbarian Ranger would be cool. From an RP perspective it would make sense seeing one track it's prey in Everfrost.

[Snortles Chortles]

Troll necromancer

[Tunabros]

Human Shamans B)

[Naethyn]

Froglok Ranger of Marr

[feniin]

Iksar Ranger. Best race + best class.

[Nexii]

No. But I do wish Dark Elf Cleric was more with drow lore, inclined to use 1HS (whips) instead of 1HB. Maybe the ability to summon spider pets but at the cost of being able to heal. Some kind of 'inquisitor' mode. Would still be a primary heal class though just different flavor than the good clerics.

[Izmael]

Ogre rogue, because a sneaking ogre is something else.

[feniin]

No. But I do wish Dark Elf Cleric was more with drow lore, inclined to use 1HS (whips) instead of 1HB. Maybe the ability to summon spider pets but at the cost of being able to heal. Some kind of 'inquisitor' mode. Would still be a primary heal class though just different flavor than the good clerics.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Goblin_Slaver%27s_Whip

[Jibartik]

I had a halfling ranger on live that was my favorite character of all characters I have ever played. (partially that was do to arch of arrows being the most incredibly OP pvp spell ever designed, rip anyone sitting, no matter how buffed/geared they were: Oh Im sorry did I quad you for 40k while you were medding level 80 character?)

peterbat!

if you played on zek during the 2010s-12s! :D

But I just loved my little bad ass running around with this maces and swords and shooting arrows at things.

[DMN]

Iksar enchanter versus ogre enchanter. Hrmmm. unlike in the case of shaman, where you'd almost always be dealing with slowed enemies beating you in the face, enchanters would often deal with hasted mobs beating them in the face, which I think FSI gets the edge. But that 40 cha on corpse retrievals. Ouch.

[Nexii]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Goblin_Slaver%27s_Whip

Exactly. My name is on the bug report that got it put in game!

[Hibren]

Barbarian Paladin, Its a crime that the Race whos deity is literally only concerned with justice cant be paladins.. Also Barbarians were created by Mith Marr ... I rest my case.

[Naerron]

the nerd in me wants to find all the OP items that are all classes, and are limited by race choice so that some classes could never use.

[unleashedd]

vahshir beastlord. but not on luclin. ill start in kerra, tyvm

[Baler]

Troll Monk, That flying kick will be legit.

[Keebz]

Lore wise I'd like,

Halfling Bard
Iksar Rogue
Barbarian Paladin

If I were to ever make a spiritual successor to this game, there'd be several race/class options only available after completing some in game quest lines.

[Hibren]

Lore wise I'd like,

Halfling Bard
Iksar Rogue
Barbarian Paladin

If I were to ever make a spiritual successor to this game, there'd be several race/class options only available after completing some in game quest lines.

gated race class combos is gonna be a big NO from me. I get the Halfling Bard and Barb Pally and liked the idea when Zaide was talking about it on stream a few weeks ago, but I dont get your angle for Iksar rogues.

[branamil]

aviak wizard

[Keebz]

I get the Halfling Bard and Barb Pally and liked the idea when Zaide was talking about it on stream a few weeks ago, but I dont get your angle for Iksar rogues.

There's all the Iksar outcasts, bandits, marauders, etc. There'd be a secret guild hall somewhere (Swamp of No Hope, Warslick maybe?), you'd be dubious in most of Cabilis, maybe non-kos to the pirates.

[Gustoo]

Ogre Monk hands down.

Ogre anything else.

Barbarian ranger.

non-classic class / race combos is a slippery slope, the traditional limitations are pretty much fixed there are very few that actually make sense to add.

[A Knight]

Please excuse me for trying to sound cool and loring out on some ideas. I read some previous posts and they sound cool.

Barbarian Paladin, Qeynos Paladins tried to convert them, but a tunare Paladin beat them in a duel. The Qeynos Paladins yielding in honor. So now Barbarian Paladins are tunare and get tunare epic.

Banished monk found a new form of feign death. Abandoned by his clan he knew ogres could be great monks. Of course upon arrival he was attacked by a high level Ogre Shadowknight. The Ogre shadowknight became confident and let his pet finish him off. But the new monk, abandoned for his new ideals and abilities, learned of a feign death that makes you invisible to undead after you stand. He then used mend and caught the ogre off guard. Then out of respect ogres let him teach them the way of monk.

[DMN]

Gnome and paladin/SK would be interesting once the tinkering is fully upgraded. Sk being able to almost max haste themselves is pretty strong.

[DMN]

Same story with gnome monk, too, I suppose heh.

[A Knight]

Same story with gnome monk, too, I suppose heh.

After seeing his adopted father and uncle split apart, during the feudal crisis in Cabilis. The first gnome monk returned to Ak'anon. Guaranteeing to continue his adopted fathers legacy and reject his uncle. He promised to continue the good path of monk in Ak'anon. He knew not if he could do it. What could a low level gnome monk offer the world? Something changed in him through after seeing his father defeat his uncle in a fight, having to leave him in kunark.

"We have no cause here. The Iksars will not change.", said the father monk. The evil uncle rejected and said, "No! I know we were here to make monks. But we found them! Look at their power." Sadly the adopted gnomes father couldn't handle a change in the mission plan. He had to leave. There was a fight and the father monk barely made it to Firiona Vie. "Set sail... tell them to be wary of the iksar monks."

I edited it so its more kid friendly. Hey in star wars and the hobbit there's fighting n stuff... /shrugs :(

[DMN]

Actually. knew there was a reason my brain told me only SK/paladin. It's a plate only item.

[A Knight]

I'll stop. Please feel free to continue.

[Hibren]

Half Elf Clerics? Why can they be Paladin and not a cleric... Stupid

[DMN]

i just take it as lore that wood elves are the only ones banging humans.

[ScottBerta]

Ogre Cleric/ Barb Ranger/ Hafling SK/ all seem cool.

It honestly blows my mind that Barbarians can’t be rangers or druids in EQ..
Like literally, Northern Europeans were those things... and I assume barbarian is a spin off Nordic/Scandinavian lore.

[Keebz]

Ogre Cleric/ Barb Ranger/ Hafling SK/ all seem cool.

It honestly blows my mind that Barbarians can’t be rangers or druids in EQ..
Like literally, Northern Europeans were those things... and I assume barbarian is a spin off Nordic/Scandinavian lore.

Barb Ranger would be badass.

[drfuzz]

Gnome and paladin/SK would be interesting once the tinkering is fully upgraded. Sk being able to almost max haste themselves is pretty strong.

Gnome SK is an abomination before man and the gods....

[Hibren]

Erudite and Kerran Monks, a small sect of erudites who were persuing knowledge "of ones self" studied with the monks of qeynos but were shunned upon returning to Erudin and found a home living with and teaching the arts to the local inhabitants of Kerras isle.

Plus, Erudites have a flying kick animation & look great in robes ... Its clearly intended and therefore classic, add it. Ill be in my trailer.

[Gustoo]

Halfling SK should be an option, and if you choose it your account gets deleted

[Master Roshi]

gnome monk cause i want the starter tunic to have a gnome six pack abs

[A Knight]

Ogre Cleric/ Barb Ranger/ Hafling SK/ all seem cool.

It honestly blows my mind that Barbarians can’t be rangers or druids in EQ..
Like literally, Northern Europeans were those things... and I assume barbarian is a spin off Nordic/Scandinavian lore.

Its the celts that were druids. I could not know, but everything to the east had more of a brute warrior image (Even if they weren't.)

I am biased though, even though barbarian could still be druid, I still think Native Americans are the true rangers.

[Frug]

If the gods of project 1999 let you break the ultimate classic rule and sacrifice all your characters and loot to create a class race combo that is normally impossible, would you do it, and what would you make?

:P

Be careful what you wish for also - some combos would find class trainers very difficult.

Barb bard.

[ScottBerta]

Its the celts that were druids. I could not know, but everything to the east had more of a brute warrior image (Even if they weren't.)

I am biased though, even though barbarian could still be druid, I still think Native Americans are the true rangers.

Pretty sure Scottish people running around the highlands with bow and arrow and swords constitute Rangers. I mean they even have a soccer team called Rangers. But I’m not trying to say one group is more deserving of term ranger than another.. I’m sure Mongols and African hunters also constitute rangers.

[A Knight]

Or welsch. Yea I know but /shrugs

[greenspectre]

http://www.s214135040.onlinehome.us/strip13.jpg

Gnome Monks FTW

[Gustoo]

Barbarian bard is probably the #1 thing that could fit for the ultimate OP bard race but mostly because they obviously play bagpipes.

Rangers in barbarian world are just warriors. They don't use druidic magic in the Norrath tradition, thats what their shamans do.

[Jibartik]

waste down fist

[Jimjam]

Halfling SK should be an option, and if you choose it your account gets deleted

Bristlebane giveth, Bristlebane taketh away. LOL.

I'd like characters to be able to start on the Karana Bandit faction, which would also open up the Half Elf Wizard choice, of which a good number of bandits are.

[Imago]

Erudite Monk

[hekk99]

To answer the original question, Barbarian paladin and it's not even close.

Barbarians would be such good paladins with their high strength and stamina, and while their wisdom isn't great, it's still not as bad as Half Elves. And a paladin with slam? Yes please. Not to mention that Barbs look great in plate armor IMO. Plus, as has been pointed out earlier, Barbarians were created by the Marr twins, so it would seem very natural for them to be able to be paladins and worship Mithaniel or Erollisi. The counter-argument, I suppose, would be that Barbs are too crude and unsophisticated to fit the archetypical nobility that a paladin should possess.

To get into the tangential topic that this post brought up (the "what should have happened" in terms of races and classes):

Erudite monks
Halfling bards
Half Elf clerics
Half Elf necromancers
Dark elf bards


Erudites should be able to be monks. The inner quest for enlightenment would fit well with their intellectual nature, and Quellious is one of the Erudites' primary gods already, so it would make sense to have a monastery in Erudin. The counter-argument might be that Erudites simply don't possess a physical enough nature to rely on only their bodies for their survival (but I don't really agree with that--they are human, after all). Additionally, I think the Silent Fist clan in Qeynos should not be agnostic, but worship Quellious, as it would be reasonable that belief in Quellious would have spread on the western half of the world. In a similar vein, it would make sense if the Ashen Order, in Freeport, should worship the Marr twins, given that there is a sphere of influence there already.

Halfling bards make a lot of sense to me because, as many others before me have pointed out, halflings are the prime example of hospitality and relaxed and lighthearted fun. As rustic as they are, you're telling me halflings never get together for song and dance? I guess the reason it didn't happen is because they might have been too OP as bards, with such high dex and the potential to have solid strength as well.

Half Elves should be able to be clerics because, as someone else pointed out, they can be paladins (Tunare-worshipping paladins, no less), so why not be consistent with either their Elf or their Human half and be able to be clerics as well? As for them being necromancers, it doesn't seem like a stretch for some of them to be half Dark Elf, and those that were could start in Neriak and practice the dark arts.

As for Dark Elf bards, I think it makes a lot of sense from a roleplay/lore perspective. Dark Elves have a sophisticated society, and even though it seems to have a rigid hierarchical structure, Dark Elves take on a wide range of tasks in Neriak--from sinister necromancers to your typical barkeep. Plus, given the ordered way that Dark Elves worship Innoruuk, it would make since that they would have a lot of song and music to praise their god. On top of all of that, Innoruuk definitely has a musical theme going in the Plane of Hate (Maestro of Rancor, anyone?), so it almost seems odd that the Dark Elves would not gravitate toward music, also.

I'm sure we could all go on and on about "what should have been done" (I certainly could), but most of the other stuff I have to say on that topic wouldn't fit this thread as well.

[A Knight]

To answer the original question, Barbarian paladin and it's not even close.

Eurdite monk would be ok. It may feel border-line lore. However, for border-line lore, like Gnome Pal it would be cool if that one class combo was needed for a specific quest.

Definately Dark elf Bard for pvp.

[Remeygi]

Gnoll (no, not Gnome) Bard

[Foopster]

ogre wizard

[Baler]

ogre wizard

I would love to see the robe :o

[Gustoo]

I would use my power to make Iksars unable to be monks.

I liked back when being a monk meant you had and needed little gear, and you had to be a human with no special features.

Overall though the class / race combos are pretty great in this game. The robe graphic limitation on all/all items is really arbitrary though and I don't appreciate it.

[Foopster]

Ogre wizard dons the faded purple robe after enlisting with the Wizard's Guildmaster in Felwithe. (https://imgur.com/oAkdNRA)

I would love to see the robe :o

[greenspectre]

Gnoll (no, not Gnome) Bard

The folks in Qeynos don't get enough sleep as it is with those dogs yowling all night outside the gates.

[Gustoo]

Ogre wizard dons the faded purple robe after enlisting with the Wizard's Guildmaster in Felwithe. (https://imgur.com/oAkdNRA)

Nice work. Nominating for artist of the year.

[Tnair]

This is boring af but Neriak needs a Monks of Hate to be the nemesis of the Quellious monks in Qeynos. It's even already vaguely lore supported via the mummy monks in PoH

Barb paladins of Marr also makes too much sense not to be in game already

Gnoll rogue would be fun

[Skarne]

But gnolls aren’t a playable race in Everquest..

[Ennewi]

Ogre wizard dons the faded purple robe after enlisting with the Wizard's Guildmaster in Felwithe. (https://imgur.com/oAkdNRA)

Homer Simpson mumu vibes.

[Gustoo]

Damn barbarian paladins would be so powerful.

Too good to exist.

[Jimjam]

I was at the supermarket, browsing through the kitchen equipment.

I saw a balance and that is when I realised:

Scales!

Common to one race and one class: iksar bard. One scaly skald!

Naturally this combo would have one deity choice The Tribunal, Norrath’s Scales of Justice.

[magnetaress]

Iksar Ranger of Prexus.

[Baler]

A Thorny Succulent Paladin
https://i.imgur.com/uDciUhN.png

[Nagoya]

i would probably do it for a Gnome Druid of Bertoxxulous, an Erudite Warrior or a Dwarven Shadow Knight (Feigh Death and Barrel Roll, imagine the possibilities!).

I agree with the above mentioned Ogre Wizard as well, quality suggestion.

[Jibartik]

A Thorny Succulent Paladin
https://i.imgur.com/uDciUhN.png

https://i.imgur.com/x0a94aK.gif

[Typhoon15]

Fun thread!

[Typhoon15]

fun thread

[magnetaress]

A Thorny Succulent Paladin
https://i.imgur.com/uDciUhN.png

https://i.imgur.com/x0a94aK.gif

https://i.imgur.com/OeAoEfQ.gif

[hekk99]

A Thorny Succulent Paladin
https://i.imgur.com/uDciUhN.png

That is incredible.

(Subsequent reaction gifs are good, too.)

[A Knight]

I just think we need a new class. Like Mameluk or something from any other random civilization but it has to be something like a real historical class like Paladin/Crusader.

[Gustoo]

What is a current game engine viable class you could make that isn’t a beast master?

Something that doesn’t have massive overlap with the existing classes

[A Knight]

Wizard/Warrior hybrid. Aoe only, snare at high level.

[magnetaress]

A high elf berserker.

[Gustoo]

Wizard/Warrior hybrid. Aoe only, snare at high level.

That is a really good idea.

Some version of warrior / wizard combo.

I'm trying to think how point blank AOE's would work

Also if he gets invis / see invis / shadow step

also if he gets the first line of wizard group ports at level 60, and also gate at level 60.

Or what. Porting / gating / translocating is such a big part of a wizard it seems like it should be part of the combo toon.

[Gozuk]

Iksar Ranger of Prexus.

Iksar Ranger would be incredible

[Baler]

Tangrin (https://wiki.project1999.com/The_tangrin) Cleric, Monkey Stun and Complete Heal.

[A Knight]

That is a really good idea.

Some version of warrior / wizard combo.

I'm trying to think how point blank AOE's would work

Also if he gets invis / see invis / shadow step

also if he gets the first line of wizard group ports at level 60, and also gate at level 60.

Or what. Porting / gating / translocating is such a big part of a wizard it seems like it should be part of the combo toon.

I was thinking maybe evac only 52-55 plus, but limited evac spells.

[A Knight]

Omnipresent Channelers Breastplate. (Deepwater equivalent) right click translocate to West Commonlands.

[A Knight]

Level 50 quested 30k root spell.

Otherwise a shield that procs root often upon bash that is 1k-2k

[Gustoo]

I think that you found the unmade class combo that would fit in norrath best. Good job.

Warrior with AOE's and evacs.

I think making him bind and gate would be awesome but maybe OP.

No health spells at all of course.

Does he get any shieldskins? Probably not I guess.

How about his melee capabilities. How is he nerfed compared to a warrior?

Can't dual wield? Can't use 2 handed weapons?

[A Knight]

I was thinking just two hander or 1 hander and shield like paladins and sks.

Not sure about shieldskins

[Baler]

Orc Fury Warrior

Am I doing this right?

[A Knight]

Not sure why bind couldn't be allowed. Gate might be too much, but I'm not sure if I am crunching the number correctly and trying to overcompensate for the possibility of the class being OP.

Gate could be a thing. Maybe its THE thing that makes them good but also not OP, like gate at 30?

[Gustoo]

I think they get

Gate
AOE
Full warrior 2hs abilities
Very good Defense same as SK and paladin at least
Very good offense, same as Ranger at least but no dual wield.
No warrior berserker
No warrior discs
No elite warrior only gear

Melee DPS should be

Rogue
Monk
War
WizWar
Rang
Pal/SK

The WizWar spell pile should be shit enough to make the ranger not feel screwed for the wizwar being better DPS, also the ranger gets dual wield and the wizwar is 2 handed only.

Gate and Bind
Some ports
AOE DD's
See invis and Invis
Root at high level.

AOE root never? I don't see this guy quad kiting.

Is he a plate wearer or a chain wearer? It doesn't end up mattering much in velious era EQ but might be cool.

Only races that can be wizards can be this class

Human, High elf, Dark Elf, Gnome, Erudite

The junk race selection for a melee helps keep the class balanced too.

Berserker frenzy is a level 60 discipline not sure mechanics. Good but not too good. 2 minute uptime and 30 minute downtime maybe? So its like lay hands in that you use it as shit hits the fan just not as great as an instant full heal, which seems appropriate. And maybe it lets you go berserker at a higher HP threshold if it proves to be useless.

[A Knight]

Sounds like a good basis for a brainstorm start

Human, High elf, Dark Elf, Gnome, Erudite

After talking about this I just realized, "OMG! Finally a gnome melee other than war that's almost lore accurate"

[Gustoo]

The berserker ability might be level 1 to fit with other hybrids (lay hands, harmtouch, track, Frenzy)

[A Knight]

That might work. I was thinking more of a tanky class like pal and sk, but going the ranger way of more dps might work too. Afterall they did it with rangers. It might be better that way just so rangers aren't the only hybrids that are mostly dps. It also fits lore.

A regular gate might be much for low levels. If they add 2-4 more seconds to cast time and give them regular gate around 55 that might be cool too, or even a 1-2 second faster gate at 55.

It might feel cheap sometimes gating out instead of feign death. But if that only matters at 55 it might be ok. Then for the people who enjoy playing EQ on an slow mentality level sometimes like me, they can be effective but not too much until at high levels.

[starkind]

Give it monk armor and evasion. A few aoes that lag behind wizards like a hybrid. No taunt.. 1hb, piercing. Double atk. A unique 1hb, and a piercing epic + buckler type magic shield.

Aoe snare at 24. Root at 16.. No specialization. Shieldskins, again lagging some behind wizards. And a few stuns. Utility like levitate, see invis. Invis. Ultravision. Yonder, fade, shadowstep. But no gate. Maybe tl at 51+

Plate is so bad for eq caster lore. Primarily dps but could tank in a pinch with root or snare. Maybe give them intimidate, and mend, but no taunt.

Mana efficiency will be an issue with steady pulls and no clarity or specialization, but a fun option to grp with a wizard, clr, and bard, ench.

It's basically a wow frost mage.

[A Knight]

I was thinking huge mana pool would make their shitty aoes good. It would be cool though if they could use swords etc, and then to fit the feel of the character they would need at least chain.

Root would be needed if their tactic is aoe DDs, then attack. Might not be able to solo, but in the group of another shouldn't be too bad.

I don't think it should get to the point of monk pulling but with gate. If they are a bit ranger-ish, maybe pulling is possible but not vital.

[A Knight]

I was really thinking they should some how have weapon procs be their thing. But I'm not sure how.

But the only way that would make sense, is if they some how do more damage to a target recently effected by fire or cold damage.

Like in Wow, where the character walks around with auras on their sword.

[starkind]

I was really thinking they should some how have weapon procs be their thing. But I'm not sure how.

But the only way that would make sense, is if they some how do more damage to a target recently effected by fire or cold damage.

Like in Wow, where the character walks around with auras on their sword.

Perfectly ez with a self buff line. The cleric procs in later expansions were rly cool.

Would make up for a lack of melee dps n give a source of agro tunable to a wars, or hybrids dps/agro potential. Love the idea of them using a proc for sustainable dps.

It's almost like a bard, with less twisting. I think it's doable. Maybe plate makes more sense in that case.

[A Knight]

Epic is like warrior epic. Wizwar gets duel whield. But epic can be combined into a two hander and its the only two hander they get in the game.

Epic procs area effect cold and fire damage. As well as a shieldskin.

Was going to say epic effect does not break mez but that feels cheap, but maybe thats just left over feelings from gate possibility.

Maybe also area effect .5 second stun?

[UrkTheSlayer]

Paladins of either the half-elf or erudite race are the rarest of all to hit 60.

[Gustoo]

Ya not a lot of min-min paladins. I've seen some twink erudites that go for the novelty.

Don't see many gnome warriors either.

[A Knight]

Oh yea I forgot to mention Gustoo mentioned procs first.

Yea Erudites need more but it would be nice to give them something legitimate that feels lore correct.

Like a giant tower aimed at dark elf city, that only activates after a long time if good Erudites take over the city. But when you log in the NPC's tell you, "There is a secret weapon. Shh.. Don't tell anyone. It might be standing infront of you" When you hail the NPCs at the tower.

[Gustoo]

I don't think that making the theoretical WizWar proc based is a good idea.

Melee DPS parses include proc damage and the calculation will be done and in the end you got a guy with procs for kinda no reason. If the procs are varied like slows and stuff then he will be OP. If they are too basic, they are kinda pointless.

I think sticking with PBAOE spells seems cool.

Base him off of Louie the Rune Soldier (my hero)

Battle Wizard the classic style honestly its extremely correct. Think of Gandald with Glamdring.

Also his PBAOE spells totally break charm no question about it. Hes kind of a suicider. But I want him to be able to actually tank. He should have less utility than SK and Paladin, Equal tanking, and same DPS as Ranger, but again less utility.

He trades utility for being even closer to a legitimate warrior.

Making him 2handed weapons only makes sense to me only because it distinguishes him from the other classes discussed here and limits his true tanking aggro generating compared to warrior with proccing 1handers and paladin and SK with aggro spells, and ranger again with powerful 1 handers.

The WizWar has very few if any direct targeted NPC spells. So Aggro generation will be his main weakness. He is tank strong but not great at aggro generation.

[A Knight]

Eh, I'm pretty pumped about it =(

You can only proc effective damage if the target has been hit by cold or fire damage. Making you dependent on your Aoes, wizards and mage in you group.

So at is prime Wizwar DPS can be nuts but also its variable so its not a constant and it has to be considered and thought about.

[Gustoo]

It's your class you invented it. Just too complicated for me now. I like the version that uses existing mechanics and spells exclusively or almost exclusively.

[A Knight]

Nah its not my class. I dun care.

Both sound cool, maybe the old way is better. I'd have to think about it and run simulations for 6 months to decide which won't happen.

[Issar]

100% with Barb Pally. Also would love to play a Iksar Ranger.

[Toxigen]

After now having been playing a bard for the first time....

...gnome bard.

[Ennewi]

Stonebrunt panda monk.

[Ennewi]

Blood Mage
No mana bar, only HP is used when casting spells.
At level 12 a blood mage gains the ability to land critical strikes, or crippling blows while in blood frenzy.
Crits siphon % of damage dealt and transfer it to the caster. A larger % is transferred from lethal spell damage.
Blood frenzy: The same 40% health threshold as Warrior's berserker frenzy, with the benefits applying to spell damage instead of melee attacks.

Standard elemental pets replaced with...
1. A sinuous/muscular elemental that procs lifetap.
2. A skeletal elemental that backstabs.
3. ?
4. ?
Pet takes on the appearance of an azarack in the Plane of Sky.

Wake of Rallos Zek: Channels the will of the Warlord to change the weather in the current zone to rain down blood. Consumes a Fire Opal when cast.
Treeform / Spirit of Oak: Always shows as a blackened gnarled tree, regardless of the zone.
Reclaim Energy: Reclaims hitpoints.
Call of the Antihero: ?

Based on flavor, more so than functionality.

[UrkTheSlayer]

Oh I get it now we make up our own classes:

Gnome Monk

Where’s my ice cream noob?

[A Knight]

In an alternative universe, necros in Wow that can summon pets like diablo 2.

Deathknight cannot be good races, and horde cannot be paladins.

Edit: Sorry for my blasphemous post

[A Knight]

I've run out of ideas.

Mentalist

Uses the power of the mind. Lives a life by wearing a blind fold to activate its third eye. Enters into combat, mostly while sitting in meditation and never actually touches its enemies.

- Wields weapons in front of the user, using the control of mind to levitate the weapons, never touching them with its physical body.

- Its common form of combat is, mostly making a copy of itself to fight.

- At 30, while in a meditative state it is mostly in, stays mostly invis, and only its copy is seen.

- Has the power to make physical warps in space time which does little damage but pushes enemies back while stunning them.

- Can use objects throughout dungeons as a back up plan if attack, using telekinesis.

[UrkTheSlayer]

Here’s a sk8r gnome fan art I did.

https://i.redd.it/q32hs7g1qpo31.jpg

Here’s the story’s if you don’t know what I’m referencing.

https://everquest.fandom.com/wiki/Skater_Gnome_Stories

[Mesocyclone]

gnome shaman baby

[Josa]

I'd Sacrifice all my characters on a server to have that monster event they did on live years ago come to p99. It would be so much fun on a fresh server to play a gnoll in blackburrow, or a decaying skeleton ina newbie area. Barring that, I'd have to say halfling Bard.

[hekk99]

All this talk about a wizard-warrior hybrid over the last few pages and no one is going to remind us that before Everquest Brad McQuaid made a game called WarWizard?

[starkind]

Who's eq dev main was ranger? Lol. Anyway. Ya'll should try out secrets classless server if its still up.

[ketzerei84]

I would make a Half-Elf Shadowknight... who worships Veeshan.

[Gustoo]

I would make a Half-Elf Shadowknight... who worships Veeshan.

A half elf shadowknight seems kinda possible. I like that elf blood pretty much prohibits you from being evil in this game, and if you're an elf and evil, you're a dark elf.

[ketzerei84]

A half elf shadowknight seems kinda possible. I like that elf blood pretty much prohibits you from being evil in this game, and if you're an elf and evil, you're a dark elf.

Right? To me it made no sense that half elves were locked out of sk and necro. They can start in Freeport and worship innoruuk. Half dark elf is still half elf. And humans who worship inny can be sk/nec. Even the deity isn’t too far-fetched since wood elf(and maybe half elf and human also but I’d have to check to be sure) bards can worship veeshan.

[UrkTheSlayer]

Who's eq dev main was ranger? Lol. Anyway. Ya'll should try out secrets classless server if its still up.

Brad Mcquaids character: Aradune?

[starkind]

Brad Mcquaids character: Aradune?

The original warwiz.

A half elf shadowknight seems kinda possible. I like that elf blood pretty much prohibits you from being evil in this game, and if you're an elf and evil, you're a dark elf.

Right? To me it made no sense that half elves were locked out of sk and necro. They can start in Freeport and worship innoruuk. Half dark elf is still half elf. And humans who worship inny can be sk/nec. Even the deity isn’t too far-fetched since wood elf(and maybe half elf and human also but I’d have to check to be sure) bards can worship veeshan.
Yaeah to the SK.

No to the necro or other int casters.

Most likely the excuse is no DE would ever have a child with a man or innoruuks corruption would make them blend more blueberry if they did, then human. There is the white haired with violet eyes half elf.

I'm supposing half elf innoruuk or bertox is just radicals. Not actually de.

Half elf rogues don't get inny as a choice. They should tho. Half elves are disordered. Can't be clerics either. It's like they are forsaken by all but the most fanatical.

[tadkins]

As weird as it sounds, and as much as the stats would suck for one in EQ...Dwarf Enchanter. Dwarves in other fantasy settings are known for practicing arcane magic to craft stone golem protectors (animations), carving runes of power onto their works (the rune line) and enchant their superior arms and armor.

I like the idea so much that I've thought about playing an enchanter of another race, giving it a dwarven name, RPing as a dwarf, and just doing my best to keep the dwarf illusion on at all times.

[Gustoo]

In the only fantasy work of fiction that matters, lord of the rings, dwarfs aren't doing that kind of magic that everquest enchanters do.

Everquest doesn't really have much of a magic line that would apply.

Except maybe bard songs.

There could be a class for Dwarfs and maybe Gnomes and maybe Halflings that is a warrior bard hybrid. Basically a warrior with a few songs and perhaps a unique tradeskill: augment creation.

The main problem with this is just making too many hybrids.

[Jimjam]

As weird as it sounds, and as much as the stats would suck for one in EQ...Dwarf Enchanter. Dwarves in other fantasy settings are known for practicing arcane magic to craft stone golem protectors (animations), carving runes of power onto their works (the rune line) and enchant their superior arms and armor.

I like the idea so much that I've thought about playing an enchanter of another race, giving it a dwarven name, RPing as a dwarf, and just doing my best to keep the dwarf illusion on at all times.

Be elf so you can wear chain armour.

[unsunghero]

Not sure if mentioned yet but Iksar enchanter would be hella OP. All iksar’s faction issues solved by illusions AND the hp regen to deal with all the hits you take while charming. Losing health is by far the thing that slows down exp’ing the most on enchanter due to how slow it is to come back without regen or heals, leaving just expensive runes as a bandaid

[tadkins]

In the only fantasy work of fiction that matters, lord of the rings,
D&D doesn't matter?

[Jimjam]

D&D doesn't matter?

Only important as a derivative of the primary work of fiction, Middle Earth.

[tadkins]

Only important as a derivative of the primary work of fiction, Middle Earth.

Eh, I like my caster dwarves. :) The only race with a true wizard beard! Before I had to go Horde in WoW my main was a dwarf mage.

It's just a shame the only real option in EQ for that is Cleric.

[A Knight]

I think Barbarian Paladin should only be in Velious. I would be pretty bummed out if dwarves are no longer the best at str/sta Paladins.

If the Barbarian Paladin is needed in a questline then people might want to roll a Barbarian anyway, even if its late.

[A Knight]

The main problem with this is just making too many hybrids.

I agree, but what do we do when the question is asked, "What about Warrior/Mage hybrid"?

[ketzerei84]

The original warwiz.
Most likely the excuse is no DE would ever have a child with a man or innoruuks corruption would make them blend more blueberry if they did, then human. There is the white haired with violet eyes half elf.

Except for certain things in game which tacitly state that half-elves can have a dark elf parent...

https://wiki.project1999.com/Cultural_Tradeskills:_Dark_Elf

[starkind]

Except for certain things in game which tacitly state that half-elves can have a dark elf parent...

https://wiki.project1999.com/Cultural_Tradeskills:_Dark_Elf

Fair point. But I doubt dark elves would ever admit to it or be ok publicly with it.

[Baler]

Wood Elf Necromancer

[Jimjam]

Wood Elf Necromancer

Deadwood

[starkind]

Kerren Zerkomancer of Prexus.

[Graahle]

Troll Rogue

[A Knight]

Warrior and Mage hybrid but only one race can use them, in the non-Luclin expansion after Velious.

[A Knight]

Or the counter to Beastlord,

Warrior/Shaman or Shaman/Monk hybrid.

Beastlord was druid/monk right? Did they have slows?

[ubernoob]

Or the counter to Beastlord,

Warrior/Shaman or Shaman/Monk hybrid.

Beastlord was druid/monk right? Did they have slows?

Beastlord is shaman/monk

[A Knight]

Aww bummer. I should know more about Luclin, maybe not. /shrugs

[Jibartik]

I was just thinking a High elf Paladin, blazing ro armor, flaming epic, wizard spell set. A blazing sun walking guardian of Solusek Ro.

https://i.imgur.com/dH82gmB.png

[A Knight]

Speaking of all this class changes, its a shame Elder Scrolls online couldn't do this. Not that I think EQ should, but that's what they were known for, making your own class.

[Old_Rover]

Some crazy stuff here! Got pretty far off track from the OP intent, but it's all fun to think about anyway. My fantasy class would be battle mage. Pretty much magician with no pet spells and himself physically buffed up to basically take the place of the missing pet. Or the other way around, would be a let's say non-plate capable warrior with a couple DD spells and maybe a little bit of utility like gate and invis or something.

Back to the original intent... not a new availble class/race combo, but a one-off that you sacrificed everything else in your account to have? Well that would be easy for me since my highest character is level 13 and I have maybe 100 plat total between all my guys, lol.

Years ago I used to think ogre/bard would be awesome but more recently I've wished for a halfelf necro. Since I've been playing DE necro lately. But no, I wouldn't really sacrifice all for that one... I mean worse starting stats and all, it wouldn't be great. Ogre necro? Hmm, maybe, but low INT would be a serious handicap there, so probably nope other than the coolfactor.

OK, troll monk it is!! Gots the regen, awesome XP penalty, best night vision, no hope of getting to use a class trainer, I love it. Just start all of my skills a 1 instead of 0 so I don't need a trainer and I'll be all over that one. Here, take all my guys! I'll play that monkly troll, lol

[Bardp1999]

Monk/Bard hybrid - Ogre race

[Lune]

Iksar Ranger would be incredible

It almost happened. Back in like 2011 I was playing my wood elf ranger in the middle of the night in unrest when Rogean broadcasted some mathematical trivia question. I'm pretty fast at this stuff and usually win "First person to send me a tell..." things. I quickly sent him a tell with the answer, which was 1, but somebody must have beat me by like a split second. Rogean said the winner got to choose any item in the game. The person who won went with guise.

I was planning to go with Iksar Egg (https://wiki.project1999.com/Iksar_Egg)

[Loadsamoney]

Froglok Bard.

[Khikik]

Orginal Question:Iksar Cleric - because lul same struggle cant use plate until velious again!

Side note

I wish the Sarnak where a playable race in EQ1 =(

[apkreach]

State of Survival (https://apkreach.com/state-of-survival-apk-mod-download/) in this game we have the task to kill the future zombies and safe the world from zombies.

[Gustoo]

I would have played an iksar cleric for that regeneration bonus. 1000%

I basically wear druid clothes for + wisdom anyways.

But shaman races are never clerics. An aberration!

[starkind]

Seems a lil weird to me there's no clerics that worship rallos.

Like why would the god of war handicap himself by restricting what classes can serve him or his armies.

[Shourty]

Iksar Ranger. Best race + best class.

Yes, what gentle being said.
Those are the best.