iksar shm - ogre/troll faction

[dcortez]

Which faction is easier for an iksar shm to fix? Ogre shm or troll shm?

After med (8) and specialization (30) it probably won't matter but would give me another side project to do.

[loramin]

Troll merchants (but not guards) can be fixed with about 20 stacks of wolf meat. I'm not sure how one goes about fixing Ogre factions.

[dcortez]

Hopped onto the Imperium server (you can warp travel there). Checked with trolls, Jokca is warmly. Ogre trainer Zulort is kindly.

All guards are scowling.

Before making the trip, can any P99 shaman confirm?

[Xenmir]

https://wiki.project1999.com/An_Iksar%27s_Guide_To_Love_and_Friendship_Through_ Murder

Looks like for shaman training neither is easy/possible according to the info in this guide.

[Stonewallx39]

Might be easier to train in oggok with wolf form (is grobb indoors?). That’s how I trained my Iksar monk in Freeport. Most of the fun of playing iksar, to me at least, is poo pooing the lesser races and just killing without concern. To take advantage of them through a little trickery, makes it all the sweeter.

Tis always a worthwhile journey to visit the motherland anyway.

[greenspectre]

AFAIK, ogre guard faction is not fixable in any way.

Grobb troll merchants can be wolf-meat'ed, and fire beetle eyes and DF belts can get your guard and shaman guild factions up. Only problem is if memory serves the shamans can't be wolf-formed into non-KoS faction to do the quest. So you'd need somebody to charm the quest NPC or use harmony plus invis trickery to do individual turn-ins.

No clue on how the ogre shaman factions work.

[Botten]

Probably just need ball of clay. You would be surprised how much earth element is used to as a neutral race fix to allow questing faction.

[clacbec]

side note, shaman bear form boost some freeport guard faction from what i remember

[DMN]

1. Don't forget dodge, though you can put dodge off for quite awhile.
2. Shouldn't need to train specialization.
3. You really shouldn't have left cabilis without getting mediate, but anyway...
4. Most likely the trolls are going to be your best bet, as you should get a large bump in faction for worshipping CT. But no matter what you will need an illusion like wolf form. My Karana worshiping druid still cons threatening to the troll shamans. The CT boost plus removing whatever malus I have for being Karana druid just might do the trick.

[loramin]

Only problem is if memory serves the shamans can't be wolf-formed into non-KoS faction to do the quest. So you'd need somebody to charm the quest NPC or use harmony plus invis trickery to do individual turn-ins.

I don't know about the other quest, but for the wolf meat one you can just invis to the quest NPC, and then you can turn in wolf meat to them without the need for any http://wiki.project1999.com/Faction%20Tricks (like Harmony, wolf form, or a Ball of Clay).

[dcortez]

1. Don't forget dodge


I did forget, LOL

[dcortez]

https://wiki.project1999.com/An_Iksar%27s_Guide_To_Love_and_Friendship_Through_ Murder

Looks like for shaman training neither is easy/possible according to the info in this guide.


This made me laugh:

Otters and Walruses, Eternal Enemies

Otters: Othmir (Start at Indifferent)
Walruses: Ulthork (Start at bottom of Threatening)

To raise one, kill the other. The otters are cuter and sell baking supplies and give cool rewards to quests. There is no benefit to being friends with walruses.

[greenspectre]

walruses

Walrii?

[dcortez]

Walrii?

EQ had it right.

https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the-plural-of/walrus.html#:~:text=The%20plural%20form%20of,walru s%20is%20walruses%20or%20walrus.

[unleashedd]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Majik_Power

on ogre sk (rallos zek), went from dubious to amiable after maybe 16 stacks of snake scales and bone chips each
this guy can sell you scales, so you dont need to farm them:
https://wiki.project1999.com/Klok_Acet

[DMN]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Majik_Power

on ogre sk (rallos zek), went from dubious to amiable after maybe 16 stacks of snake scales and bone chips each
this guy can sell you scales, so you dont need to farm them:
https://wiki.project1999.com/Klok_Acet

How did you get your faction to dubious? I'm pretty sure you should be threatening for being an ogre and worshipping RZ?

[unleashedd]

everything was dubious, except merchants (indifferent), when i first entered Grobb. maybe theres a difference between blue and green servers? im on blue

[loramin]

everything was dubious, except merchants (indifferent), when i first entered Grobb. maybe theres a difference between blue and green servers? im on blue

It's this way on Green also.

When I did the Wolf Meat for Wista quest it was on Green, and I did nothing special to get my faction up; I just showed up to Wista (invising to get to her) and gave her my meat.

[DMN]

It's this way on Green also.

When I did the Wolf Meat for Wista quest it was on Green, and I did nothing special to get my faction up; I just showed up to Wista (invising to get to her) and gave her my meat.

Was this on a RZ ogre? What was the point to invsing if nothing was KOS? My friend on RZ(the server) back in the day was KOS to the the troll shamans for worshipping RZ(he was a warrior) and I've seen plenty of low level ogres on green get dump trucked by jocka.

[loramin]

Was this on a RZ ogre? What was the point to invsing if nothing was KOS? My friend on RZ(the server) back in the day was KOS to the the troll shamans for worshipping RZ(he was a warrior) and I've seen plenty of low level ogres on green get dump trucked by jocka.

This was on an Agnostic Gnome. I would imagine that any Gnome would have worse faction than any Ogre in Grobb ... but I could be wrong.

The invis was to get past the guards and guildmasters, who definitely were KOS (even before I killed about a thousand guards ;)). In Grobb the fighter types start KOS, while the merchant types just start out dubious, not selling to you.

Wista appears to be on the merchant faction, so as long as you don't die on the way to her, you can just turn in wolf meat without any special faction tricks. Reportedly you need about 20 stacks or so before you can sell.

[DMN]

Must have missed this bit o the persons who post you responded to.

everything was dubious, except merchants (indifferent), when i first entered Grobb. maybe theres a difference between blue and green servers? im on blue