Keystone XL Pipeline

[Kaveh]

The hydrocarbons will still be extracted but will now go in trucks, which is less environmentally friendly than a pipeline. Please explain why this makes sense. Use simple language, I am from flyover

[Jibartik]

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[Cassawary]

does it bring oil from the alberta? i heard that's not worth extracting anymore

[imperiouskitten]

The hydrocarbons will still be extracted but will now go in trucks, which is less environmentally friendly than a pipeline. Please explain why this makes sense. Use simple language, I am from flyover

because the natives get to keep their beautiful lands untouched by pipes for more casino space

i sold my keystone stonks back when Trump lost a cpl months ago :p

[FatherSioux]

More oil = more tech = less pollution

“Build more farms”

[Jibartik]

I know there was some buzz that because it was from tar sands, it was not cheep enough to produce that made trucking it worth it. Maybe that's changed. Maybe that was someone tricking me? Idk!

Maybe they'll truck it now, because they already invested so much under trump and now the strat is the green faction is just going to try to hurt t the oil factions bottom line?

It was my understanding the vast majority of it was going to be shipped to foreign investments anyway, just through the american harbor instead of maybe canadian, which it will be now?

Why did they build that pipe anyway?

Anywho, Idk if the rumors about all the oil being sold off to foreign countries after it traveled through the pipe is true, or if it was just propaganad I slurped up. But that was the messaging in 2015.

So who fricken knows.

I know that the thought process behind shutting down XL as far as the far left goes was "if we make oil hard enough to produce it will give green energy a leg up" so there is some stratigic nonsense there.

And also it's another dent in the armor of big oil, and that alone is a win for the people who are at war with them.

I honestly have no clue about what is reality or fake news though.

[Kaveh]

does it bring oil from the alberta? i heard that's not worth extracting anymore

They’re going to ship it to China. Which is worse

The margins are minimal at pre pandemic prices, but marginal still means profit. I genuinely think keystone XL was better for the environment than the alternative, and north american extraction of jydrocarbons exerts a negative price pressure on Saudi, Russian, Venezuelan, and iranian oil. I see no way in which this opposition to pipeline expansion benefits anyone, except the native Americans as big J said

But I’m genuinely curious if there’s an economic or environmental argument. I don’t think there is

[Kaveh]

How do I embed YouTube clips? I still haven’t figured out how to post images so make your explanation rudimentary

[Jibartik]

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I spelled bracket, but that's because if I used one, ( [ ) the text would try to embed that jiberish in between.

figuring that out was an elf topic group effort!

[imperiouskitten]

so you copy the youtube link, it looks like this:

youtube.com/watch?v=Sy-B7X9JP4o

take everything after the =, and put it in between [embed ] [ /embed] without spaces like [embed ]Sy-B7X9JP4o[ /embed]


images you just post the whole URL http:// ---- .png in between [img ][ /img], but it HAS to be hosted on imgur.com

[imperiouskitten]

pokesan figuerd it out :o

[Cassawary]

They’re going to ship it to China. Which is worse

The margins are minimal at pre pandemic prices, but marginal still means profit. I genuinely think keystone XL was better for the environment than the alternative, and north american extraction of jydrocarbons exerts a negative price pressure on Saudi, Russian, Venezuelan, and iranian oil. I see no way in which this opposition to pipeline expansion benefits anyone, except the native Americans as big J said

But I’m genuinely curious if there’s an economic or environmental argument. I don’t think there is

can always trust a dem to break a bad contract for social justice reasons instead of being honest that it's about the money :p

canada is getting screwed

[imperiouskitten]

ahhh sooo, that makes perfect sense. I honestly didn't expect him to nix the pipeline, I bet you are right about ulteriors

[Jibartik]

Yeah, see, cant win dont try.

[Zipity]

I don’t understand shutting this deal down at all - they even gave Biden a reason to get behind it by offering to build the entire thing with 100% clean energy... it would have created 10,000s of jobs for a decade. The native Americans had a contract with the pipeline to receive a very substantial sum of money, I bet they are pissed too. it’s not like they are herding buffalo for a living these days, they are savvy businessmen. If he shut this down I fully expect some very large bills trying to be passed for alternative and clean energy and strong headwinds for everything oil.

[Jimjam]

How do I embed YouTube clips? I still haven’t figured out how to post images so make your explanation rudimentary

Hit quote on the post so you can see the magic and swap out the relevant parts. Merry

[Jimjam]

Disappointed this wasn’t a Key Howling Stones xp pipeline thread btw, glad i entered seems interesting anyway.

[magnetaress]

I feel real bad about all of this, but Kaveh makes a point.

Also it's native American land and I am pretty sure they didn't want it. Which is like, it makes forcing a Canadian pipe through their land big commie gov. Since it is their land its like states rights.

I acknowledge there may have been a prior contract with an American native nation, but was it broken before the protest? Or during?

Like if even one native American bundie wants to stand were the pipe is. Cuz muh American rights (which we gave to them).

[budz2112]

Economically it provides little to nothing to the American people, a crappy oil that needs a lot of energy to be refined. Enviormentally the finished parts of the pipeline have already leaked oil into precious lands.

[Jimjam]

Economically it provides little to nothing to the American people, a crappy oil that needs a lot of energy to be refined. Enviormentally the finished parts of the pipeline have already leaked oil into precious lands.

Interesting. Who was paid to build the pipeline?

Does the pipeline have to pay rent on any land it goes through?

[Zipity]

“ Exxon Mobil Corporation’s XOM Double E Pipeline recently received a favorable go-ahead from the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (“FERC”). The project has received Notice to Proceed for construction and Implementation Plan approval from the regulatory body.

The project is a joint venture between ExxonMobil and Summit Midstream Partners, LP SMLP. While ExxonMobil has a 30% interest in the pipeline, the remaining 70% operating stake is owned by Summit Midstream. The construction manager of the pipeline, Summit Midstream has also received rights-of-way on federal lands for the Double E Pipeline. Construction works will likely commence in the current quarter.

The 135.2-mile Permian Basin natural gas pipeline project is expected to be commissioned in fourth-quarter 2021. Last April, it received favorable environmental assessment from the FERC, following an environmental analysis, as the regulatory authority expected the pipeline to have minimal impact on the environment. The pipeline is expected to provide much relief to producers in the region, where natural gas comes as a buy-product of oil and huge flaring problems are faced.

The pipeline will transport natural gas from the northern Delaware Basin in Eddy County to Waha, TX and have a shipping capacity of 1,350 million cubic feet of natural gas per day. From the starting point, the commodity will be sent to the markets along the U.S. Gulf Coast and Mexico.”

Don’t see Biden shutting down Exxon Mobil’s new pipeline

[Zipity]

Why would a President cancel a pipeline that has pledged to turn itself into America’s first all-renewable energy interstate/international pipeline system

Reacting to President Biden’s decision, Thomas Pyle, President of the American Energy Alliance, put it this way: “The Keystone pipeline is nearly completely built and an important link for North America’s economic security

In a press release issued on Sunday, TC Energy, the owner and operator of the Keystone XL System made a series of strong environmental and labor-related pledges in a last ditch attempt to head off the looming presidential order to cancel its permit. Among those commitments were the following:

The Keystone XL System would achieve net-zero emissions in its operations by the year 2023;
While the net-zero goal would be achieved largely through the trading in renewable energy credits, the system would become fully powered by new investments in renewable energy capacity by 2030;
A promise to “spur an investment of over US$1.7 billion in communities along the Keystone XL footprint creating approximately 1.6 gigawatts of renewable electric capacity, and thousands of construction jobs in rural and Indigenous communities;”
The company also committed to “working with union labor in the U.S. and Canada,” pointed to the fact that “Keystone XL has also signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) with North America’s Building Trades Unions (NABTU) to work together on the construction of TC Energy owned or sourced renewable energy projects

[magnetaress]

“ Exxon Mobil Corporation’s XOM Double E Pipeline recently received a favorable go-ahead from the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (“FERC”). The project has received Notice to Proceed for construction and Implementation Plan approval from the regulatory body.

The project is a joint venture between ExxonMobil and Summit Midstream Partners, LP SMLP. While ExxonMobil has a 30% interest in the pipeline, the remaining 70% operating stake is owned by Summit Midstream. The construction manager of the pipeline, Summit Midstream has also received rights-of-way on federal lands for the Double E Pipeline. Construction works will likely commence in the current quarter.

The 135.2-mile Permian Basin natural gas pipeline project is expected to be commissioned in fourth-quarter 2021. Last April, it received favorable environmental assessment from the FERC, following an environmental analysis, as the regulatory authority expected the pipeline to have minimal impact on the environment. The pipeline is expected to provide much relief to producers in the region, where natural gas comes as a buy-product of oil and huge flaring problems are faced.

The pipeline will transport natural gas from the northern Delaware Basin in Eddy County to Waha, TX and have a shipping capacity of 1,350 million cubic feet of natural gas per day. From the starting point, the commodity will be sent to the markets along the U.S. Gulf Coast and Mexico.”

Don’t see Biden shutting down Exxon Mobil’s new pipeline

Doesn't look like it's going through somewhere ppl can rightfully claim autonomy from the federal government on.

Also it's America to America. Seems like a sweet deal.

Fuck Alberta. USA USA USA USA USA 🇺🇸

[magnetaress]

The energy credit system is broken. It needs to go.

[Zipity]

This is a big fail. granted I think the president has good intentions, he acted way to hastily on this situation, this project would have been good for the American people And our economy as a whole. My only Hope is that Biden is this decisive and adamant on an entire
Change to clean energy and takes it all the way and isn’t going to just be selective and play favorites because there are far worse pipelines for our environment than this one that are still going ahead full steam.

[Zipity]

The biggest impact and what would jive with both democratic and Republican Party motives is changing all current oil infrastructure/engines/energy sources over to natural gas which is cleaner, cheaper and more efficient. It would provide readily available and storable energy for cars, homes, planes just like gasoline that
Doesn’t have the constraints of solar, wind, batteries atleast until our technology improves enough to where we wouldn’t possibly need it anymore. I personally feel it is the perfect stepping stone in the right direction and could be the bridge to fully clean energy. Almost every Reputable big company that pumps, pipes, refined, ships oil also already does so with natural gas so it wouldn’t destroy jobs, companies, and entire industries making the shift it would only spur job growth altering already in place infrastructure and switching it over to natural gas / liquid natural gas.

[Cassawary]

XL is just the part that goes to canada, the rest is still there.

e: im wrong

https://i.imgur.com/xvDnnXQ.jpg

[indiscriminate_hater]

Keystone XL Pipeline is a good name for a beer bong

[cd288]

Zipity just had a conversation with himself over the course of like 25 minutes

[Kaveh]

So I’m assuming inertia would drive the pipeline project forward if it were economical, I’m guessing Poke is correct. It’s just the numbers I’m aware of show it being marginally profitable, a massive weapon against Petrostates, and better for the environment for the remainder of the time period where we use hydrocarbons for fuel

I could be wrong though, which is why I asked. The good news is that America, with minimal investment, can go 40% wind power by 2040

We could do much more with more serious investment, and nuclear power could render hydrocarbons obsolete (thorium, molten salt), but we are brain dead and a catastrophize nuclear accidents

-kaveh

[HalflingSpergand]

Nuclear power 100% give it to me baby

Keystone XL PIPELINE (keystone ice 64oz chug jug)

[Zipity]

Yeah we are so not worthy of nuclear power too many mentally ill folks running around, wind is a great one though for sure.

[FatherSioux]

You clowns who think wind is the answer are dreaming. Thanks Obama

[Swish]

https://i.imgur.com/0KIROHx.gif

[HalflingSpergand]

What's wrong with nuclear ppower u dont like free energy? How stupid

[FatherSioux]

Nuclear power is without a doubt the answer.

[magnetaress]

https://i.imgur.com/0KIROHx.gif

That is bad ass.

Nuclear power is old gods wasteland warcraft meme. But we should do a little were necessary.

[Gravydoo II]

Wind power and solar are the future. Literally have free energy that could power the entire planet with like 200 square miles of solar panels in the deserts of the world.
How much radioactive fallout and nuclear waste does that windmill produce from exploding like that?

What happens when a nuclear plant has problems? Chernobyl. Fukushima.

[Kaveh]

Chernobyl is a 70 year old nuclear plant based on Russian technology. Russians are stupid as fuck

Google molten salt reactor or thorium. Not at all the same buddy, stick to adult coloring books. Also, wind is relatively cheap and present across almost the entirety of America, as in our plains and coastlines facilitate cheap wind power

Texas will be 40% wind powered by 2035, even as the population surpasses 32 million

[Cassawary]

Wind is also decentralized.

Which is nice.

Hope they aren't using copper though :o

[Jibartik]

When an oil truck crashes it doesnt spill 10s of thousands to millions of gallons of oil, which is nice.

https://www.nrdc.org/experts/anthony-swift/what-21000-gallon-keystone-spill-tells-us-about-safety-tar-sands-diluted

Over the last year we’ve had many recent indications of the risks of tar sands diluted bitumen pipelines – an 840,000 gallon spill in Michigan, a 250,000 gallon spill outside Chicago, a 1.3 million gallon spill in Alberta, as well as our recent report examining the safety of tar sands pipelines. On May 7, the Keystone tar sands pipeline provided yet another warning when it spilled approximately 21,000 gallons of crude in North Dakota.

but you know what I want to know, is this pipeline already there with/or without the keystone XL? the XL is just a shorter one? I suppose an argument could be made to protect montana's wildlife, considering it seems like this pipeline is just being made by canadians who are trying to get the majority out of their country and put it in ours haha

https://i.imgur.com/7VtUh9K.png

[Kaveh]

It takes gas to fuel an 18 wheeler hauling oil

It isn’t about trucks wrecking dingus

[HalflingSpergand]

Who gives a shit ubknow what asphalt is? Oil ya on the ground

[Jibartik]

It takes gas to fuel an 18 wheeler hauling oil

It isn’t about trucks wrecking dingus

the question is does the production of gas and its use in modern trucking engines exceed oil spilled directly into our cleanest areas of our country. Idk, do you, dingus?

Does that gas come from tar sands oil? or from cleaner places?

Will those trucks be electric in 20 years?

idk, do you know the answers to all these questions mr upset? Why is the XL pipe so important to you anyway? Jobs? how many more jobs do you get from trucking over a metal pipe in the ground?

[Kaveh]

I do have all the answers

[FatherSioux]

Until they solve the issue of using wind power in areas where wind power can’t be harnessed it’s not good. Wind power will be a joke in 50 years.

Nuclear is again the answer. Don’t build nukes on fault lines and upgrade and keep them up to date and you’re fine.

[imperiouskitten]

Nuclear power is without a doubt the answer.

Accurate. Too bad "environmentalists" in the 60s somehow averted our acting on this. Not sure why people don't know it yet.

[Jibartik]

bIGH1AfIS18

It will be funny in 40 years when we find out yet again, the green movement put us into a worse position than if they didnt exist I bet lol

[A Knight]

The correct answer is to never use technology. Become monks. Because everything outside of doing nothing is bad.

[Jibartik]

It will be funny in 40 years when we find out yet again, the green movement put us into a worse position than if they didnt exist I bet lol

Oh wait we already know...

5x7UgKfSug0

[A Knight]

I hate to fall for the bate of a perfect plan. But they put solar panels in germany and it worked pretty well. The government rewarded people who bought them and then they paid for themselves. Also they put grass on their buildings to lower the temperature of all the concrete in cities and that worked too. I think solar panels run out eventually but not for a while.

I just don't think we should get rid of all the gasoline yet. Or harvest natural gas from our sewers and its cleaner.

[Jibartik]

I live in a costal so cal city, or am from there anyway, and when I was young smog was a real prolbem, and the ocen was a nice shade of blue/green all year long.

Then they like, really pushed the green lifestyle to peopel out here, better or worse.

What I can say with absolute confidence as I look at the DEEP blue ocean, with nary a hint of smog. That you can make the world a better, cleaner, more beautiful and fun place to live in, and still own a Silverado your whole life.

But it does take work.

[A Knight]

Indeed

[imperiouskitten]

I live in a costal so cal city, or am from there anyway, and when I was young smog was a real prolbem, and the ocen was a nice shade of blue/green all year long.

Then they like, really pushed the green lifestyle to peopel out here, better or worse.

What I can say with absolute confidence as I look at the DEEP blue ocean, with nary a hint of smog. That you can make the world a better, cleaner, more beautiful and fun place to live in, and still own a Silverado your whole life.

But it does take work.

i remember smog too. we used to get it in Vegas, even tho it's wildly windy most of the time. Remember coming down the pass into San Bernardino and visibility suddenly dropped. Even LA is pretty clear nowadays except in fire season.

I think it was just those catalytic converter thingies and exhaust tech developments that did it, right? It can't be that our collective gas mileage dropped that much. From my pov, I'm pretty sure it didn't take anyone (in America) work :p just more printed ducats to pay Mexicans and Japanese with

[HalflingSpergand]

computerized fuel management is mostly what did it, it was going to happen whether the government raped us for our change or not

[vegam]

You think it is wise to have a pipe line running through millions of people's drinking water, the Ogallala aquifer, which also supplies water to millions of farms in the midwest? Just so the Canadians can get rich? What if there is a leak and the aquifer gets contaminated? There's no cleaning that up if there's a leak. It would be a disaster that would dwarf BP. Having clean drinking water is a luxury we take for granted in the States. Go to a third world country where you risk death or serious illness for getting a drink.

Nuclear power presents it's own problems (like disposing of the waste for one). Nuclear waste has a half life of tens of thousands of years.

Solar is definitely promising. I can't believe how far solar technology has come in my life time.

[FatherSioux]

Fire nuclear waste into the sun.

[feniin]

Fire nuclear waste into the sun.

What happens when the rockets explode on launch?

[imperiouskitten]

You think it is wise to have a pipe line running through millions of people's drinking water, the Ogallala aquifer, which also supplies water to millions of farms in the midwest? Just so the Canadians can get rich? What if there is a leak and the aquifer gets contaminated? There's no cleaning that up if there's a leak. It would be a disaster that would dwarf BP. Having clean drinking water is a luxury we take for granted in the States. Go to a third world country where you risk death or serious illness for getting a drink.

Nuclear power presents it's own problems (like disposing of the waste for one). Nuclear waste has a half life of tens of thousands of years.

Solar is definitely promising. I can't believe how far solar technology has come in my life time.

make elon useful, ship nuclear waste into the sun. I'm pretty sure that's one of the very few equations where the weight/fuel math works out wildly well.

[magnetaress]

Iron is bad for the sun. Don't do that.

[Cassawary]

We can't hit the sun

[HalflingSpergand]

Nothing leaves the firmament

[Kaveh]

Molten salt and thorium

Fractions of the amount of nuclear waste produced in the past you fuckin Luddites

Head ass removal, step right up

[Kaveh]

Also, we’re still fracking

Ban pipelines but not fracking? We have two absolutely brain dead political parties in the US. SAd!!!

[magnetaress]

Molten salt and thorium

Fractions of the amount of nuclear waste produced in the past you fuckin Luddites

Head ass removal, step right up

I'm the fiiiiiiine and diiiiviine young gentleman who put this idea in your head.

So I agree.

Tesla is ready with battery tech for downstream too.

[Cassawary]

Also, we’re still fracking

Ban pipelines but not fracking? We have two absolutely brain dead political parties in the US. SAd!!!

The pipeline is already there. XL is just an express lane

[Cassawary]

We already laid the pipe, you see.

[Gwaihir]

There is only one "Key"stone, and that is our Lord Jesus Christ, the stone rejected by the builders.

Seek Christ.

Godless Heathens.

[magnetaress]

I got rosy cheeks for christ.

Both ends.

[Jibartik]

I was reading an article about how the green people are now against bitcoin, because it's destroying the environment using energy to mine.

So we can blame them for the lifetime of coal/oil that we use, and now regulated economies.

What movie was that where the guy goes "the worst things mankind has ever done were done with the greatest of intentions"

[magnetaress]

Making pennies is awful.

I'm all for bitcoin being adopted. And then bitcoin 2.0.

It's better than pennies

[Toehammer]

Nuclear is really the only scientifically feasible option.

Since the news media/politicians sensationalized the two (100% preventable) nuclear disasters it has scared US citizens to be irrationally paranoid of nuclear... "hey, that's like the atomic bomb man". Fukushima operators ignored international inspectors/work orders, and well Chernobyl, Russia, nothing else to say! Very interesting reading when you look up nuclear accidents, very few historically and most are not that serious, certainly not approaching the severity of a pipeline spill. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_and_radiation_accidents_and_incidents

Due to this fear mongering, there is a lack of bipartisan support among voters for it, although the dems have started to realize that nuclear is necessary, https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertbryce/2020/08/23/after-48-years-democrats-endorse-nuclear-energy-in-platform/ Your average conservative/liberal is still dubious to nuclear.

We have enough nuclear fuel to last 1000 years already dug up or in easily accessible mines, and the modern reactors are dramatically more efficient and safe.

The ideal solution is a mix of mostly nuclear, appropriate solar, and hydrogen storage in some storage matrix (MOFs, clathrates, etc.). Nuclear could already solve most of the world energy problems, it's just not politically expedient without public support, so will be implemented slowly... the US hasn't built enough plants in the last 50 years.

Biden axing the pipeline seems like a druidic animal sacrifice to the environmental evangelists wackos... net environmental benefit compared to fuel tankers driving it across America. It does seem like a campaign promise kept though...

[Jibartik]

The vast majority of intelligent people have known nuclear is the only option for far longer than anyone here has ever been alive, but that makes no difference.

Because all we care about is stories. And the story of someone being mad is far greater than the story of how energy is generated.

[magnetaress]

Less ppl is optional as well. No one really likes that. But its also a truth.

[Jibartik]

That's a perfect example of the worst things that could be done being done with good intentions.

Over the last few decades, birth rates have decreased across the globe. The United States is no exception. Aside from a few years in the mid-2000s, the number of births in the United States have been falling for the last three decades and have now reached their lowest number in 32 years.

And all animals come to balance with their environments at some point, and we have too.

I dont buy into the "overpopulation" paranoia.

[magnetaress]

That's a perfect example of the worst things that could be done being done with good intentions.

Over the last few decades, birth rates have decreased across the globe. The United States is no exception. Aside from a few years in the mid-2000s, the number of births in the United States have been falling for the last three decades and have now reached their lowest number in 32 years.

And all animals come to balance with their environments at some point, and we have too.

I dont buy into the "overpopulation" paranoia.

I'm not being paranoid. And I agree.

I'm curious what that balance will be or if we simply wind up a 2cnd class phyla and make way for homogreys.

[Jibartik]

Im not saying you are, but there are a lot of people that are.

First time I heard of the balancing was in japan, and then also in scandanavia.

I noticed when people were comfortable, they seemed to slow down procreation.

Where as poor people are like rabbits.

So I think the more comfortable we get, the more we'll naturally become eugenicists..

YEESH the more I think about the future of mankind the more Im like, get me outa here lol

That movie Ad Astra I think is 10/10 our future.

[Toehammer]

The vast majority of intelligent people have known nuclear is the only option for far longer than anyone here has ever been alive, but that makes no difference.

Because all we care about is stories. And the story of someone being mad is far greater than the story of how energy is generated.

Exactly. Now if we could just figure out safe storage of hydrogen fuel, the combo with nuclear would be so awesome... would make the environmentally costly materials for electric cars obsolete!

[peterpal]

First time I heard of the balancing was in japan, and then also in scandanavia.


I think those two examples have probably polar opposite reasons why the birthrates are decreasing

[Jibartik]

I think those two examples have probably polar opposite reasons why the birthrates are decreasing

Both countries have strong comfortable living for the middle class.

Both nations had melinials that were going online more and more, I think they’re quite similar. What makes you say they’re different?

[peterpal]

I'd say Scandinavia is more what you describe. Taking their time for education and career and thinking about babies when they feel safe enough to do.
Japan it's probably because of working 99% of their time and they don't seem very comfortable at all. Maybe it's not representative enough but all the salarymen documentaries about Japan seem horrible like they have no life outside their jobs

[Jibartik]

https://japantoday.com/category/features/lifestyle/disenfranchised-parasite-singles-in-japan-look-to-their-parents-to-help-find-a-spouse

https://grapee.jp/en/132528

... idk bout that :)

[Gwaihir]

The vast majority of intelligent people have known nuclear is the only option for far longer than anyone here has ever been alive, but that makes no difference.

Because all we care about is stories. And the story of someone being mad is far greater than the story of how energy is generated.

Yep. Nuclear and hydro power are the only viable solutions until we can figure out how to convert gravitational energy into electromagnetic energy.

[Gwaihir]

That's a perfect example of the worst things that could be done being done with good intentions.

Over the last few decades, birth rates have decreased across the globe. The United States is no exception. Aside from a few years in the mid-2000s, the number of births in the United States have been falling for the last three decades and have now reached their lowest number in 32 years.

And all animals come to balance with their environments at some point, and we have too.

I dont buy into the "overpopulation" paranoia.

Malthusian population economics are a racist tool of the international Jew used to guilt trip western nation's into not having kids while more easily controlled low iq populations throughout the rest of the world are free to proliferate

[Jibartik]

Maybe.

or maybe we're a behavioral species like all the other ones.

[peterpal]

https://japantoday.com/category/features/lifestyle/disenfranchised-parasite-singles-in-japan-look-to-their-parents-to-help-find-a-spouse

https://grapee.jp/en/132528

... idk bout that :)

And those things don't sound very Scandinavian. Sweden especially has a daily routine to socialize with people called fika the opposite of the hikikomori.

[Jibartik]

That article specifically says that japan is a very social country and that the isolation issue is a new problem.

So it's similar to a degree. Especially if you consider japan leading them on the birth rate curve, which they were afaik. I bet the Scandinavians are starting to have a problem with anti social streamers, I'm totally guessing there, but I bet they do?

We can keep arguing but here is the similarity I am really pointing to: the youth didn't need to work. So they stopped having kids.

That seems to be the factor. Once people can start to smell the roses, they stop making minions.

But IDK I have put like, only stoner thought into this.

https://i.imgur.com/KTaDyxH.png

(aka smell'n roses)

[Gwaihir]

https://www.researchgate.net/post/Is_it_possible_to_convert_gravitational_energy_dir ectly_into_electrical_energy

Converting Gravitational force into electromagnetic force

Google "magneto-caloric effect" for the future of refrigeration technology as well.

Technically, the future of all technology is in learning how to convert gravity into electromagnetism, and then applying that to currently expanding applications of magnetism

[magnetaress]

I didn't have kids because of mental health issues and fiscal poverty/dependence. It wasn't spiritually or economically viable.

[Jibartik]

https://www.researchgate.net/post/Is_it_possible_to_convert_gravitational_energy_dir ectly_into_electrical_energy

Converting Gravitational force into electromagnetic force

Google "magneto-caloric effect" for the future of refrigeration technology as well.

Technically, the future of all technology is in learning how to convert gravity into electromagnetism, and then applying that to currently expanding applications of magnetism

Not to drastically change the subject but..

imagine if we were born on a planet where instead of just magnets pushing on magnetic fields, we had gravnet rocks that pushed on the gravitational fields.

I imagine we'd be flying around in ships, pinching through the gravitational field, protecting our ships from collision with objects and the effects of inertia, so they are made of materials as shitty as weather ballons, and when they do crash, they look like this:

https://i.imgur.com/hKOH6yO.png

[Jibartik]

I didn't have kids because of mental health issues and fiscal poverty/dependence. It wasn't spiritually or economically viable.

I might argue that if you were stuffed back in the closet and forced to work in a factory or you starved to death, youd maybe have some minions. :o

[Gwaihir]

I didn't have kids because of mental health issues and fiscal poverty/dependence. It wasn't spiritually or economically viable.

From a theoretical standpoint, it never is. However, as with all things, trusting God's providence is the only way. Seek first the Kingdom of God, and all these things will be added unto you.

[Cassawary]

Malthusian population economics are a racist tool of the international Jew used to guilt trip western nation's into not having kids while more easily controlled low iq populations throughout the rest of the world are free to proliferate

I agree with some of this :p

[Gwaihir]

13947I agree with some of this :p


"Some"?

It's not even debatable.

If "population growth" is a "problem", than it is an African problem

[Gwaihir]

13947I agree with some of this :p


"Some"?

It's not even debatable.

If "population growth" is a "problem", than it is an African problem

The "Western World", where this garbage ideology is peddled, are at or below "replacement" levels.

I'm not removing my contribution from the Gene pool to "make room" for a people that are unintelligibly breeding at a rate 3x higher who are essentially contributing nothing to the spiritual/technological advancement of humanity.

Tripping.

[Jibartik]

This checks out, especially if you omit other factors lol

[Kaveh]

I think those two examples have probably polar opposite reasons why the birthrates are decreasing

Sweden has liberated women. Japan has deep and structural social problems

Population decline is why Sparta fell. Head Ass removal before it’s too late

[imperiouskitten]

Sweden has liberated women. Japan has deep and structural social problems

Population decline is why Sparta fell. Head Ass removal before it’s too late

Sparta scuked bro Athens is what spread

Free the boy lovers

[imperiouskitten]

Malthusian population economics are a racist tool of the international Jew used to guilt trip western nation's into not having kids while more easily controlled low iq populations throughout the rest of the world are free to proliferate

I guess? I don't think most ppl abstain from breeding because of guilt, though. More like most want 1 high investment kid like me instead of living some yeoman 9 pregnancy 20 years of screaming babies hell world fantasia where nobody gets braces because u can only afford braces for 3 of the kids. So u roll the dice 9 times and they all come out sun-damaged ugly toofuses. Which was forced on previous people by the economic necessity to breed farmhands.

[A Knight]

Sparta scuked bro Athens is what spread

Free the boy lovers

poor greece and china. Reputation forever.

[A Knight]

Sweden has liberated women. Japan has deep and structural social problems

Population decline is why Sparta fell. Head Ass removal before it’s too late

I thought sparta fell because they upgraded all the infantry upgrades and didnt research into archery. When your ogre warrior too much.

[A Knight]

Sweden has liberated women. Japan has deep and structural social problems

Population decline is why Sparta fell. Head Ass removal before it’s too late

I think japan is still trying to figure out what to think about America and probably all wants to date one. They are confused :confused: Japanese school girls are attractive but its western clothes. That would be like Bikinis being Jewish as Arabic.

[Nirgon]

If you're over a certain BMI in Japan, they cut your ass off healthcare.

Enjoy your crushing taxes, gas prices etc, virtue signalers.

[Nirgon]

15$ minimum wage just passed by Biden guys!!!!


For federal employees only. Ahahaha whew.

[A Knight]

not japanese /shrugs

[FatherSioux]

More kids = more joy

[HalflingSpergand]

Ya best families are BIG families

Single kids are fuckin weirdos, dont be those parents

[FatherSioux]

I was an only child who then had some half siblings later so I’m a weird mix. Only children miss out on immense amounts of social learning opportunities. An only child is not an ideal situation.

Ideal is multiple children, at least one bit and one girl. Raised by two loving parents, ideal if also male and female but at this point two loving parents is great.

[imperiouskitten]

Yeah I think 2 kids is kinda ideal. Only child verrry lonely, especially these days I bet. Wind up with subpar partners cuz they are so scared of being alone in the house

Statistically speaking the younger brother is always likelier to be gay, so have 1 girl 1 boy. 2 boys or more is gay agenda tier

[HalflingSpergand]

In my opinion happy healthy normal mother and father prevents sexual perversion and sexual attention seeking (gayness) from my lifetime of research (living and observations)

2 kids not enough, 4 minimum as the goal, 6-8 would be a nice cut off if the mother is really good at giving birth and pregnancy

[FatherSioux]

We stopped at three, three today is 5-6 50 years ago.

[imperiouskitten]

We stopped at three, three today is 5-6 50 years ago.

Thank YOu for yuor service

[Kaveh]

Sparta scuked bro Athens is what spread

Free the boy lovers

Brasidas was a bad ass

I know you don’t know him. Athens was the better of the two cities, but they fell because of their hubris and adventurism in Sicily. And because of my persian ancestors practicing offshore balancing.

First Battle of Mantinea, Spartans are attacked coming out of a forest by prepared ambushers, dumb ass king who is young an inexperienced gave a shitty command, the brother of the second Spartan king disobeys the dumb orders and holds the line. The Spartans form up to face a charge from the Argive / Athenian coalition, the Spartans have a hole in their line due to poor orders from the king. The brother of the absent king pleistonax, who disobeyed Agis (young / dumb king), rolls up the Argive line on the opposite side of the field, crushing the Argive commoners. He let the Athenians and Argive nobles leave (oligarchy promotion in Argos, and the hope for peace with Athens). He then went back to Sparta and was tried for disobedience.

So to reiterate, having been led into a trap, unprepared in a forest, the Spartan line formed up, crushed a prepared opponent, and even had the wherewithal to make political calculations in the midst of a crushing victory

Athens had its merits, but the drill and discipline of Sparta was like Rome post Marius; they were way ahead of their time. In any case, most of the major Greek city states in the 5th century BC were intellectually superior to 88% of nations around today

[Gwaihir]

In my opinion happy healthy normal mother and father prevents sexual perversion and sexual attention seeking (gayness) from my lifetime of research (living and observations)

2 kids not enough, 4 minimum as the goal, 6-8 would be a nice cut off if the mother is really good at giving birth and pregnancy


If Lilith will not get on board, get another wife and make more.
Women need men.
Men don't need women.
By definition, becoming a "man" means cleaving one's self from dependency.
There is no said equivalent for women, for becoming a woman simply means becoming fertile.

Women would rather share a high value man than settle for a low value (submissive) genetic reject (see fat Mongo)

[Toxigen]

i wonder how many jobs biden will wipe out this year

[Gwaihir]

i wonder how many jobs biden will wipe out this year

Who cares? If push comes to shove, simply take whatever you want from the Jews manufacturing scarcity.

They're creating their own problem.

[Kaveh]

If Lilith will not get on board, get another wife and make more.
Women need men.
Men don't need women.
By definition, becoming a "man" means cleaving one's self from dependency.
There is no said equivalent for women, for becoming a woman simply means becoming fertile.

Women would rather share a high value man than settle for a low value (submissive) genetic reject (see fat Mongo)

Nah buddy we all need each other

[Gwaihir]

Nah buddy we all need each other

Nope.

When the leading cause of death for women was child bearing, humanity persisted. Historical evolution of humanity determines this is a lie.

For the past 60 years humanity has bent over backwards to support a gynocentric inversion of society and what has it lead to? Society unravelling at the seams.

Throughout history, every time this has happened, empire collapse follows shortly thereafter, followed by another dark age brought on by men who aren't afraid to take the reigns dominating effeminate men

[Gwaihir]

Even within cultures internally, when men cede leadership to women, women betray said weak men, and outsource domineering men.

My wife's love is most affectionate right after I slay it. She longs for "gentle" lovemaking but is unable to climax from it, and is a shrew following said encounter, yet when no regard is paid for things she says, climax follows and the shrew recedes.

[Toxigen]

Nope.

When the leading cause of death for women was child bearing, humanity persisted. Historical evolution of humanity determines this is a lie.

For the past 60 years humanity has bent over backwards to support a gynocentric inversion of society and what has it lead to? Society unravelling at the seams.

Throughout history, every time this has happened, empire collapse follows shortly thereafter, followed by another dark age brought on by men who aren't afraid to take the reigns dominating effeminate men

https://i.imgur.com/jrVwL5Z.jpg

[FatherSioux]

^

Biden's America

[Wrekt]

fuck that pipeline and anyone who was for it. if you say you lost your job and your life is ruined, then you're disengenuous. and dumb.

fat and bald too i'm sure.


imagine losing your freedom/guns/voting rights for trump. lol

[Gwaihir]

^

Biden's America

13955


A real beauty

[Toxigen]

13955


A real beauty

its pretty fucked how low we've gone

[Gwaihir]

its pretty fucked how low we've gone

yeah this mentally ill dude is a Pediatrician, and the Assistant Secretary of Health.

Imagine if you needed to see a psychologist, and clowns elevated to positions like this were all you had to choose from.

Only in clown world.

[Wrekt]

i just hope they purposefully misdiagnose everyone with views right of bernie that steps through their office doors

[Jibartik]

Any of you guys watch Bill Mayher or whatever his name is?

I watched the last episode, it was pretty scary lol.

He was talking (throughout the whole episode) about how we need to and he's ok with, wiretapping Americans who are suspects of or are posting about political conspiracy lol

It's only episode 2 since biden lol, hold on cus it's gonna be a

https://i.imgur.com/ZzDntrg.png

[Tethler]

If you're over a certain BMI in Japan, they cut your ass off healthcare.


This is not accurate. If you are 40+ and over a certain BMI, your company can be fined by the government though. Larger companies retain doctors to come to the office for mandatory annual health checks. Employees over the limit are strongly encouraged to lose weight and are given information for exercise regimes or dieting information, and some companies will even pay for gym memberships since the cost is probably less than the fine.

Individual health insurance is not impacted. Nobody loses access for being fat.

[Byue]

the amount of extremely conservative dudes playing this elf sim is fascinating.


in short, some naïve people think it's a supply and demand sort of thing.

need a pipeline to make this economically viable.
no pipeline, it goes in truck.
it is even more expensive.

oh shit does that renewable cost less now?

voilà.

[Kaveh]

Good to know everyone thinks their political opponents are idiots. You guys really have discourse and democracy down to a science

Canada has/is expanding its pipeline to BC, every drop of oil and natural gas will be extracted. Ban fracking and you’d have a point. If this raises costs, it helps the Russians and Saudis. Even when you talk yourselves in circles, you still came to the wrong conclusion

But I have to admit, Biden has started out way more left of center than I imagined. And honestly, I don’t care. I think not building the pipeline is a slap in the face to Canada and benefits China, Russia, and the Middle East, but does nothing to stop extraction or environmental destruction. Again, fracking is worse for the environment by orders of magnitude and is how North America gets a majority or its hydrocarbons. That said, my perspective is the losing one in a democracy of my peers, so I accept this wrong decision as I’m sure many many more had to suffer under far worse decisions under trump, who I regrettably voted for. That’s how dad felt about democracy. That’s how America feels about democracy

[Toxigen]

Good to know everyone thinks their political opponents are idiots. You guys really have discourse and democracy down to a science

Canada has/is expanding its pipeline to BC, every drop of oil and natural gas will be extracted. Ban fracking and you’d have a point. If this raises costs, it helps the Russians and Saudis. Even when you talk yourselves in circles, you still came to the wrong conclusion

But I have to admit, Biden has started out way more left of center than I imagined. And honestly, I don’t care. I think not building the pipeline is a slap in the face to Canada and benefits China, Russia, and the Middle East, but does nothing to stop extraction or environmental destruction. Again, fracking is worse for the environment by orders of magnitude and is how North America gets a majority or its hydrocarbons. That said, my perspective is the losing one in a democracy of my peers, so I accept this wrong decision as I’m sure many many more had to suffer under far worse decisions under trump, who I regrettably voted for. That’s how dad felt about democracy. That’s how America feels about democracy

He also signed an exec order allowing foreign interference in the US power grid.

Joe "I cuck for China" Biden

[Cassawary]

Good to know everyone thinks their political opponents are idiots. You guys really have discourse and democracy down to a science

Canada has/is expanding its pipeline to BC, every drop of oil and natural gas will be extracted. Ban fracking and you’d have a point. If this raises costs, it helps the Russians and Saudis. Even when you talk yourselves in circles, you still came to the wrong conclusion

But I have to admit, Biden has started out way more left of center than I imagined. And honestly, I don’t care. I think not building the pipeline is a slap in the face to Canada and benefits China, Russia, and the Middle East, but does nothing to stop extraction or environmental destruction. Again, fracking is worse for the environment by orders of magnitude and is how North America gets a majority or its hydrocarbons. That said, my perspective is the losing one in a democracy of my peers, so I accept this wrong decision as I’m sure many many more had to suffer under far worse decisions under trump, who I regrettably voted for. That’s how dad felt about democracy. That’s how America feels about democracy

Why do we need two keystone pipelines?

[Kaveh]

Same reason Canada expanded theirs

Volume

[Cassawary]

Same reason Canada expanded theirs

Volume

We have pipeline at home

https://i.imgur.com/Zj3OeBY.jpg

[Kaveh]

Where they all going bud

Texas. We are a pro pipeline people. We’re also pro wind

[Byue]

Canada's tar sand might not be extracted at all because the cost of extracting is too high.

Also Biden is perhaps the radical left for the US but for everyone ese living in a real country, he is center right.

[Jibartik]

Same reason Canada expanded theirs

There are companies in canada trying to extract tar sands.

RE that map: not one of those is tar sands.

People who had zero intrerest in the keystone XL until randomly last week:

"heres a map of water pipes, still against keystone XL?"

lmao

[Cassawary]

There are companies in canada trying to extract tar sands.

RE that map: not one of those is tar sands.

People who had zero intrerest in the keystone XL until randomly last week:

"heres a map of water pipes, still against keystone XL?"

lmao

https://i.imgur.com/xuglZi4.jpg

[Jibartik]

Its so funny how like, these two things are inveritably linked:

"I was told there was election fraud"

"I was told I know everything about keystone XL"

[FatherSioux]

For me environmentalism boils down to two ideas. Should we aim to be a multi planet species or should we try to protect this planet at all costs. If you want to reach for the stars you need to squeeze this rock we live on now. It is possible to squeeze that rock without crushing it into dust, but squeezing is required. Make your choice. Squeeze hard, no squeeze, or a middle ground.

[Jibartik]

The question is, if you think Canada squeezing their rock into dust by extracting tar sands from it and making it economically viable by building pipelines through America so they can sell it to china...

..is a middle ground squeeze.

[Cassawary]

The question is, if you think Canada squeezing their rock into dust by extracting tar sands from it and making it economically viable by building pipelines through America so they can sell it to china...

..is a middle ground squeeze.

futurism is a disease of the mind

[Toxigen]

dont worry when biden steps down in 6 months because his dementia becomes too obvious we'll have kamala to lead us

https://i.imgur.com/wMfJUHZ.jpg

[FatherSioux]

futurism is a disease of the mind

Futurism is why you’re alive and why we’re able to live this way. You’re demented if you can’t see the arch of human beings and realize we aren’t slowing down.

[Cassawary]

Futurism is why you’re alive and why we’re able to live this way. You’re demented if you can’t see the arch of human beings and realize we aren’t slowing down.

You idiots only like it to recapitulate Makavelli. Adding a rocket 🚀 is just an extra step to the ends justifying the means.

[Kaveh]

Its so funny how like, these two things are inveritably linked:

"I was told there was election fraud"

"I was told I know everything about keystone XL"

There wasn’t an election fraud. Head ass removal buddy. Biden won

It’s still a low hanging fruit decision for very liberal people (on paper) who don’t know economics. You guys are right. This changes very little. I don’t like that we’re making decisions to “own the libs” or “own the conservatives.” It’s a very unhealthy way to govern

The $1.9 stimulus should be 2 rounds of checks (that I won’t get) and other direct stimulus to Americans. Make the second half of it renewable infrastructure. It would mostly be pilfered, but at least that would do what you guys are talking about and help!!!!

[Jibartik]

Tucker last month: massive eletion fraud!

Tucker today: can you believe the fed is trying to take powers of the state away to have elections however they want??

lol what were you asking for before????

[imperiouskitten]

You idiots only like it to recapitulate Makavelli. Adding a rocket 🚀 is just an extra step to the ends justifying the means.

all thru ya body

[imperiouskitten]

He also signed an exec order allowing foreign interference in the US power grid.

Joe "I cuck for China" Biden

That sounds just tewwible can u link us a single satisfact to snack that up

[Jibartik]

The $1.9 stimulus should be 2 rounds of checks (that I won’t get) and other direct stimulus to Americans. Make the second half of it renewable infrastructure. It would mostly be pilfered, but at least that would do what you guys are talking about and help!!!!

We should have shut down mortgages and stopped the banks from collecting.

I cant believe we told reseteraunts and businesses they cant be open, but they have to pay their rent.

Have any of you payed the lease for a store? its like 3-7k (or MUCH higher) depending on your city lol

ITS SO STUPID!!!!!

We wouldn't need need ANY stimulus :(

We needed to halt 100% of mortgage payments, they way they did student loans.

We chose to inflate the economy, rather than let banks stop collecting payments, even though we chose to stop citizens from collecting payments at their reseteraunts and businesses.

Think about how fucked up this is:

The stimmulus is designed to get you out and spending. Not to cover your losses, or help you buy groceries if you cant work or own a business.

They sent you a check, so you can buy a PS5 and the people who manufacture international goods and sales, can continue to make money, and the politicians can say "see the economy is alive I am good!"

They dont care that you havent been able to afford the inflated groceries youre not able to payfor without a job.. they're worried that americans are not buying enough 55" tvs

They literally said to go out and buy a tv.

Its so insane.

[imperiouskitten]

cant let them landlords go hongry

[imperiouskitten]

btw i did buy my 1st TV since the 90s with my stimmies :p

[Jibartik]

landloard wont go hungry if the BANK stopps collecting mortage payments.

[Cassawary]

landloard wont go hungry if the BANK stopps collecting mortage payments.

What if the property is free and clear retirement income?

Stimulus is meant for buying stupid shit. I think it's keynesian or something.

[FatherSioux]

You idiots only like it to recapitulate Makavelli. Adding a rocket 🚀 is just an extra step to the ends justifying the means.

How do you think tech advances? By people living in grass huts for 65 years or people improving and building on old tech? You know how pipeline tech and all other tech improves? By making mistakes and finding solutions. Have to crack a few eggs to make an omelet.

You hold this holier than position while living off the teet of oil spills and genocide. Get over yourself and join the human races advance forward.

[imperiouskitten]

How do you think tech advances? By people living in grass huts for 65 years or people improving and building on old tech? You know how pipeline tech and all other tech improves? By making mistakes and finding solutions. Have to crack a few eggs to make an omelet.

You hold this holier than position while living off the teet of oil spills and genocide. Get over yourself and join the human races advance forward.

the blows liek a 12 gauge shotty

[Cassawary]

Have to crack a few eggs to make an omelet.

Get over yourself and join the human races advance forward.

yeah that's why you're a psycho lol :D

[Jibartik]

people be like, but I dont want to buy shit, I want to buy groceries.

[Gwaihir]

We should have shut down mortgages and stopped the banks from collecting.

I cant believe we told reseteraunts and businesses they cant be open, but they have to pay their rent.

Have any of you payed the lease for a store? its like 3-7k (or MUCH higher) depending on your city lol

ITS SO STUPID!!!!!

We wouldn't need need ANY stimulus :(

We needed to halt 100% of mortgage payments, they way they did student loans.

We chose to inflate the economy, rather than let banks stop collecting payments, even though we chose to stop citizens from collecting payments at their reseteraunts and businesses.

Think about how fucked up this is:

The stimmulus is designed to get you out and spending. Not to cover your losses, or help you buy groceries if you cant work or own a business.

They sent you a check, so you can buy a PS5 and the people who manufacture international goods and sales, can continue to make money, and the politicians can say "see the economy is alive I am good!"

They dont care that you havent been able to afford the inflated groceries youre not able to payfor without a job.. they're worried that americans are not buying enough 55" tvs

They literally said to go out and buy a tv.

Its so insane.
No

We should have told people to keep their vitamin c and potassium levels up with fresh produce because there's a bad cold going around and then just moved on with the rest of our fucking lives instead of going full blown retarded over a fucking cold virus. It's the fucking common cold, and you guys are all stupid as fuck.

[FatherSioux]

yeah that's why you're a psycho lol :D

So any path forward that increases pollution levels should be off the table? Are you the arbiter of these pollution thresholds?

[Jibartik]

fwiw I dont understand how the economy works.

But it aint the common cold I mean, lets not go from one stupid idea to another one.

[ruzzil]

No

We should have told people to keep their vitamin c and potassium levels up with fresh produce because there's a bad cold going around and then just moved on with the rest of our fucking lives instead of going full blown retarded over a fucking cold virus. It's the fucking common cold, and you guys are all stupid as fuck.

Yea like so many people have died from the common cold before....

[HalflingSpergand]

Its probably the common cold. Theory : Just people are huge vaginas these days and opt to hook up to a ventilator because theyre obese alcoholics and the ventilator is a torture device ive never heard of them using until now

[Toxigen]

relevant:

https://youtu.be/X29lF43mUlo

spot on exactly whats going on right now

this country is filled with a bunch of weak pussies

[Gwaihir]

relevant:

https://youtu.be/X29lF43mUlo

spot on exactly whats going on right now

this country is filled with a bunch of weak pussies

imagine thinking you can smoke methamphetamines and crack cocaine for 20 years and not have respiratory issues. COVID = Meth lungs.

[Jibartik]

I hope you guys slept well on your my pillows.

[Gwaihir]

I hope you guys slept well on your my pillows.

[magnetaress]

I got a nice scented eye pillow with lavender and flax. Totally organic.

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/jSQ2TY9.png



The problem with qanon is you have to explain your jokes to them :(

[magnetaress]

Mine has the blood of Uighers on it. Get wrekt.

[Boptop]

The problem with qanon is you have to explain your jokes to them :(

I think the ignorance added to the funny Jibartik.

[Cassawary]

The problem with qanon is you have to explain your jokes to them :(

it's blank though. not a very good pillow to call your one and only

also too small

[Boptop]

Cassowaries are fucking scary, friggin' bird raptors.

[magnetaress]

I have a body pillow. Probably made by refugee children with dirty coal power and lots of arsenic and mercury dumped into some poor villages water supply. Got it from bed, bath, and beyond.

Cassowaries are the best.

[Jibartik]

Its dawning on me the same people that said masks dont work also have the guy who invented a scientific pillow with patented technology he sells to suckers, as a high ranking member lmao

[Gravydoo II]

That shit is garbage to be pumped through that pipeline to saudi arabia.. Fuck that noise. 35 jobs after its built. Wow, 35 jobs. How many truckers get employed dragging it in trailers across the usa? A lot more than 35. Dont pretend to care about the enviroment, pollution, etc. You only do because trumps not in office.

[magnetaress]

My answer to how hard to squeeze was: Borg

I deleted it tho.

[Gwaihir]

I have a body pillow. Probably made by refugee children with dirty coal power and lots of arsenic and mercury dumped into some poor villages water supply. Got it from bed, bath, and beyond.

Cassowaries are the best.

I peed a little.

[FatherSioux]

I recently looked at a new pillow and it seems like you have to spend $100+ for a decent pillow. Also my pillows suck and I voted for trump.

[magnetaress]

I recently looked at a new pillow and it seems like you have to spend $100+ for a decent pillow. Also my pillows suck and I voted for trump.

I got mine on sale for all under $40

[magnetaress]

This feels like a Jibartik breadcrumb.

https://i.imgur.com/fGUevpH.jpg

[Jibartik]

I give them until 2027 if they dont show they aint real. :(

[imperiouskitten]

i prefer to think there are no aliums, because IMO it's so unlikely in an infinite universe hypothesis that it seems to confirm we're in a simulation that revolves around development in isolation. which leaves open the possibility for an afterlife or dope 47 virgin post-sim.

Of course that leaves open an alternate view of possible afterlife criteria...for instance what if your RL is streaming online and it's only popular RLs that get put into a higher universe tier. So like being a super goody goody might not get you up there if it's boring. Maybe the main thing is being super gangsta and entertaining or like, sexy.

[Mblake81]

^

not even that complicated.

Do you know any aliens or have known people who know aliens. Like one sentence.

[Gwaihir]

^

not even that complicated.

Do you know any aliens or have known people who know aliens. Like one sentence.

Nope. Guess it's just the internet fantasy trying to reify again. Is rael, thougg

[Mblake81]

Nope. Guess it's just the internet fantasy trying to reify again. Is rael, thougg

If it is then it is, but until then it's not.

[Cassawary]

Senate Backs Keystone XL Pipeline As Two Democrats Split with Joe Biden (https://www.newsweek.com/senate-backs-keystone-xl-pipeline-democrats-snub-biden-1567048)

Senators backed the symbolic amendment in a 52-48 vote, with Sens. Joe Manchin (D-WV), the chairman of the energy committee, and Jon Tester (D-MT) voting to back construction of the pipeline.

[Gravydoo II]

Senate Backs Keystone XL Pipeline As Two Democrats Split with Joe Biden (https://www.newsweek.com/senate-backs-keystone-xl-pipeline-democrats-snub-biden-1567048)

What was the point of that though? It was "symbolic" and didnt actually do anything. They voted to show "support", so grand standing for big oil, really. Seems a bit silly to me. Like the whole obamacare thing. Those symbolic votes to show their insurance company donors "ima get rid of it! i promise!" then when they had the chance, they didnt. lol

"However, construction of the pipeline was blocked by Biden shortly after he took office last month. TC Energy, the company behind the Keystone pipeline, warned that the president's decision had put thousands of union jobs at risk." - That article

Its not thousands. Its 35 jobs after its built. 35. Im not saying this AT you, cassawary. I'm sure you already know this. Just commenting in general.

[FatherSioux]

i prefer to think there are no aliums, because IMO it's so unlikely in an infinite universe hypothesis that it seems to confirm we're in a simulation that revolves around development in isolation. which leaves open the possibility for an afterlife or dope 47 virgin post-sim.

I know you fancy yourself as an intelligent being but I'm not sure you understand the word infinite.

[Cassawary]

States sue Biden in bid to revive Keystone XL pipeline (https://news.yahoo.com/states-sue-biden-bid-revive-230836001.html)

[imperiouskitten]

I know you fancy yourself as an intelligent being but I'm not sure you understand the word infinite.

oh i missed this 1, what i meant is the evident lack of aliums seems very suspect in an infinite universe paradigm. this was pretty clear if u made any effort to take my meaning. thx dumbbell

[magnetaress]

States sue Biden in bid to revive Keystone XL pipeline (https://news.yahoo.com/states-sue-biden-bid-revive-230836001.html)

Necromancy XL

Yikes.. :p

[Kaveh]

I prefer charcoal to gas when grilling

[magnetaress]

I prefer charcoal to gas when grilling

Yeah or wood fire burned down into charcoal.

[NPC]

Until they solve the issue of using wind power in areas where wind power can’t be harnessed it’s not good. Wind power will be a joke in 50 years.

Nuclear is again the answer. Don’t build nukes on fault lines and upgrade and keep them up to date and you’re fine.

Wind can be harnessed just about anywhere. If you go high up enough in the atmosphere wind blows 24/7, its called the jetstream that goes across the entire planet. Plus solar is enough for a whole planet if need be, wind can be alernate energy source.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a34396787/elon-musk-sun-power-civilization/

Nuclear produces toxic waste that never goes away, plus the reactors are so expensive they need government subsidies to be built. It's an industry that would exist without government assistance, and they still do not know how to get rid of toxic waste other than dumping it in a deep mine, so ya no more nuclear.
Plus, fear of terrorist attack a la 9/11 is the reason they need to get rid of all nuclear power, period.

[HalflingSpergand]

Username checks out

[magnetaress]

A secret underground German nazi base during WWII. Chernobyl. 3 mile island. And now Fukushima.

We aren't doing really well with nuclear kids.

On the upside, the German base is deep underground. And the only one that wasn't a complete shitshow. Although everyone probably died and the radiation is too strong to really check it out in detail. Plus the German government really is happy to have it never known.

[HalflingSpergand]

Allfake

[magnetaress]

Allfake

Nuh uh. I saw the cool now married with a child bro, baby was conceived before they crawled in there with a giger counter on travel Channel bro.

It's super fuckin really real bro.

[HalflingSpergand]

Larp tv docuseries made it real?

Nien

[magnetaress]

I'm bustin ur chop. Uknow I could do real better with at least the internet.

Hey, if you want to hire me a driver, caregiver, we can go there together! I'll watch you build the giger counter.