Ishkurs Guide to Electronic Music

[Knuckle]

You guys ever have a website you liked a long time ago, forgot about it, suddenly remember it, but can't find it, give up for a few years, remember it again, and suddenly find it after a decade or more?

That's what happened here, sadly, the original website in all its glory(pictured below) has been replaced with a much more robust history and much better web compatibility(RIP FLASH).

This guy really nailed down how to learn about something, even as niche as electronic music sub genres and timelines. What makes this great, if you've likely never heard of it, is he provides a sound sample for every genre, includes them chronologically, and some great dialogue, this guy sounds like the ultimate russian doomer with his style of writing, but it's still great.

https://music.ishkur.com/

Let me know your favorite genre or quote if you like it.

[magnetaress]

I kinda like it all but i find myself falling back to ambients and stuff like progpsy

when i was a kid i liked stuff like that hard techno and house, dutch house

once everything kind of blurrs together i'll flip genres for a bit than back

there's good songs in every genre, a genre doesn't make the music good automajicaklly

sweet website

[Gustoo]

That pic you posted is amazing Knuckle.

I call it all "techno" because that is what people understand, and I am not a genre police elitist kinda person so I don't care what the name is.

Bottom of the list in techno genre is the new pop style techno from guys like Avicii that stuff goes away from the parts of techno I like so much that it actually makes me kinda mad.

Top of the list in techno genre are a few songs from what were the good old days for me, like "enter the future" by dj energy

then all of the DDR songs like "drop the bomb" and "soldier of fortune" and "ba kwah" or something like that.

Then I like happy hardcore style, like Scooter, Lasgo

A lot of individual songs that stand out as being incredibly amazing, like "omnibus" and "star child" and "star child 2"

There aren't a lot of artists that I like whole heartedly though. Like DJ energy, a lot of his stuff doesn't do it for me despite "enter the future" being one of my favorite songs of all time.

I also like things closer to europop like a few songs by the artist E-type

And getting away from techno much more into electronic pop, I like the two or three latest albums from Robyn besides the newest one which was kind of a miss for me.

I really like that website can't wait to dig in sometime.

[Jibartik]

oof I'm happy you found this fountain of your youth!

[Gustoo]

It really is a thing from the days before "social media" pretty much successfully destroyed the internet.

Actual content on an actual website that isn't only existing to sell you something. My goodness.

Amazing and inspiring. I am going to start a website in the olden ways soon.

[Gustoo]

Gunna put this up for best thread in 2021 even though its only january. Thanks knuckle.

[Knuckle]

That pic you posted is amazing Knuckle.

I call it all "techno" because that is what people understand, and I am not a genre police elitist kinda person so I don't care what the name is.

Bottom of the list in techno genre is the new pop style techno from guys like Avicii that stuff goes away from the parts of techno I like so much that it actually makes me kinda mad.

Top of the list in techno genre are a few songs from what were the good old days for me, like "enter the future" by dj energy

then all of the DDR songs like "drop the bomb" and "soldier of fortune" and "ba kwah" or something like that.

Then I like happy hardcore style, like Scooter, Lasgo

A lot of individual songs that stand out as being incredibly amazing, like "omnibus" and "star child" and "star child 2"

There aren't a lot of artists that I like whole heartedly though. Like DJ energy, a lot of his stuff doesn't do it for me despite "enter the future" being one of my favorite songs of all time.

I also like things closer to europop like a few songs by the artist E-type

And getting away from techno much more into electronic pop, I like the two or three latest albums from Robyn besides the newest one which was kind of a miss for me.

I really like that website can't wait to dig in sometime.

I've always been fairly generic, I like Paul Van Dyk's style of "trance" and a few of the wave movements.

Electronic game rearrangements like on ocremix have been a multi decade addiction I frequently revisit. I feel like "game music remixing" should have it's own genre due to its growth and popularity but i suppose it would be bucketed under one of these 'sampling' type genres.

And yeah Gustoo, this website really is amazing, I actually am amazed at how much content has been added since I last visited. Feel like I'm in the ultimate interactive wiki on electric music history of the 20th century.

[magnetaress]

I think when we do things genuinely like build something cool just for the fun of it and to help others (not to toot our own horn) it is a great stepping stone and i'm not accusing ppl of doing that, I am encouraging it and saying its a good idea

i need to find something like that too, and just make it, for fun, and good

[Bonethunder]

Great brad pitt avatar

[Mblake81]

Going through a phase exploring this stuff. The nostalgia trips are real for me, find myself fascinated by the creativity.

Photo

https://i.redd.it/ugr7m59ei7b31.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/BEYJmaR.png

“Vaporwave is inseparable from the internet,”

Vaporwave is an internet-based microgenre that is characterized by distinct low-fidelity, or lo-fi, beats skillfully paired with heavy sampling of existing media to produce music that sounds refurbished, post-modernized, retro and futuristic – all at the same time.

“The whole appeal of vaporwave is its use of remaining unknown, that in a world where nothing is private, it is refreshing to find something that feels like it was found in the dumpster of a thrift shop where it does not matter who it came from or who made it only that it takes you elsewhere, somewhere distant from reality,”

Vaporwave has an extremely distinguishable aesthetic characterized by its use of vintage computer imagery and its satirical appropriation of old media and the romanticizing of ’80s and ’90s consumerist culture.

Vaporwave also is a music and art genre that gained traction in 2010. Vaporwave artists steal, download, rip and record digital relics of the 1980s and 1990s, which include everything from Kmart Muzak to shampoo commercial footage. The resulting art pieces function both as an homage to and a critique of the late 20th-century capitalism that helped spawn them.

“In a sense, when we mine this old material for content, we're reading love letters to ourselves from the past,”

Bandcamp links

https://bandcamp.com/tag/vaporwave?tab=all_releases
https://bandcamp.com/tag/synthwave?tab=all_releases

Edit Note: Vaporwave as well as other forms of synthwave depend on the artwork to help the listener understand the experience. Without the artwork it all sounds like electronic beats.

[Gustoo]

Super cool.

[Mblake81]

I think part of the appeal of Vaporwave (and other synth) artists is similar to that of message board users. Most, if not all, are anons.

I only know you guys by your avatars, screen names and post styles.

[Jibartik]

Going through a phase exploring this stuff. The nostalgia trips are real for me, find myself fascinated by the creativity.

Speaking of synthwave video combos I love this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nC5TBv3sfU

[Mblake81]

Speaking of synthwave video combos I love this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nC5TBv3sfU

1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0kg80jAtI8)
2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR97K6uDh-4)

[nostalgiaquest]

Speaking of synthwave video combos I love this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nC5TBv3sfU

That Gunship album is probably one of my favorite albums of all time. Not a big synth wave fan in general but man something about those songs is special.

[Jibartik]

1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0kg80jAtI8)
2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR97K6uDh-4)

These links are going straight to one of my discords hehe !

I had a friend give me the best terminator fan fiction idea ever, and he's who's gonna get these haha. Let me share it, cus its awesome!

So he thinks that because Kyle Reese and Sarra Conner, banged and had a kid, the real John Conner, was never born.

Not the john conner that saved humanity. That one was born out of her banging some dude at a night club she never saw again.

Instead, she gave birth to a totally a new boy, made by a different dad: Kyle Reese and they named/thought he was the "John Conner" and told him he would do all this great stuff.

In T2 we see, that he is not the guy that we were told would lead us to salvation. Instead he's a borderline criminal.

In t3 he becomes a homeless guy. He talks about how he never wanted to be a hero, never believed he even was one.

He never fit the bill, he hated it, he never wanted to be a hero, this is NOT the guy that would have become the hero, he's the guy that was FORCED to be the hero.

Yeah, so I think that's a cool idea.

The real john conner, was never born, and the fake john conner, hap hazzerdlyh did (thanks to a lot of help from other termiantors) what the first, real john conner did on his own.

[Gustoo]

Make a new thread Jibby this is pure heat techno music thread.

[imperiouskitten]

i think most of the appeal of vaporwave is its fash-adjacency. it is funny to see our resident old bigot is so interested in it, it being a rather newfangled and tweenage constellation of meme. i can find only the connection to far-right politics to explain this. Please keep in mind the nature of the vaporwave meme when boosting its signal.

[Mblake81]

The characters in this place, lol.

I grew up in the 80s, 90s. Did you pay attention to the material used?

Anyway, keep grinding those gears, my trans friend.

[imperiouskitten]

i like it too, fwiw :)

[imperiouskitten]

mayebe but i'm not in power, and my pappy raised me polite. so it dont matta :o

[Jibartik]

Make a new thread Jibby this is pure heat techno music thread.

for a second I thought you were so stoked on that idea you wanted to make a whole thread about it, haha

fwiw my friend into this music is also a fash lol, never thought there was a connection, but boy does he love boots and this music lol

He admits it "I'm an authoritarian, my opinion is invalid"

[Knuckle]

It’s really hard to not like vapor wave. I think it might have fallen under synth wave but resonance song has this whole YouTube video about why it’s so pleasing based on science. Something to do with how waves are inverted. Might track it down. But yeah vaporwave is super top notch gonna dig back into it. I’ve also enjoyed sovietwave the last year or so as it tugs on the depression as if it’s nostalgia.

Resonance mini doc:
https://youtu.be/OwgLAZ3AtaI


More rambling, I remember just exploring some of these genres the first time and finding new old music to download because of it: skinny puppy, kmfdm off the top of my head.

Definitely check out the “moog” genre.

Wish he’d stop mocking pure moods/new age so much. I had my grandparents order it for me cuz of that damn commercial and it was one of the best CDs none of my friends ever learned I owned growing up!

[Jibartik]

I like to listen to the soundtrack to clockwork orange and pretend im listening to the first techno. https://youtu.be/FfHrryY5UL0

[Toxigen]

try listening to real music

[imperiouskitten]

try listening to real music

yea i'm not big on 36 hour ultra relaxation royalty free techno mixes or 4chan meme music either

vaporwave is cool for 15 seconds though, like maybe in a loop on a pirated game installer.