Trio advice

[FrenchWrath]

hi everyone,

I am going to be playing with my brother who played EQ briefly in 2001 and a childhood friend who has never played. I have been playing all flavors of EQ since the original Beta. In order to keep things simple, we are going to start in Faydwer. I was wondering if anyone had a trio suggestion for Faydwer knowing that there will be one experienced player (me) and 2 total newbies. Also would you recommend green or blue server? It seems blue would be quite empty for us to level and there is no class xp penalty but green might be a more authentic experience for them.

Thanks!

[Naethyn]

Warrior, Cleric, and have your best player play Enchanter. Only level in dungeons. Blue.

[feniin]

Warrior, Cleric, and have your best player play Enchanter. Only level in dungeons. Blue.

Paladin/Shadowknight is an acceptable alternative to Warrior, too. But this is basically the only real answer if you want to be optimized. Otherwise just play whatever classes you like and have fun.

[FrenchWrath]

Warrior, Cleric, and have your best player play Enchanter. Only level in dungeons. Blue.

I guess it is the classic trio. I am just enchantered out at this point. Played too many of them. Maybe I will replace with Bard.

[FrenchWrath]

Paladin/Shadowknight is an acceptable alternative to Warrior, too. But this is basically the only real answer if you want to be optimized. Otherwise just play whatever classes you like and have fun.

Yeah I guess I'll have them pick whatever and choose a complementary class.

[Gustoo]

A trio is really strong if you even halfway put effort into a good composition.

Monk / Cleric / Ench might be the best combo but its hard to go wrong.

[Toxigen]

Another option:

Everyone start Iksar. Monk / Necro / Shaman

Super strong trio. Crazy synergy. No JBB for shaman but who cares with a powerhouse trio like that?

Go explore the entire world in confidence, plus the added benefit of charming undead too. The necro fuels the shaman + monk into an absolute zero downtime powerhouse. 2 feign deaths and 2 gates should make for a lovely safety net.

This is your best option if you want to get out of playing enchanter....and not sticking your poor friend / brother on a cleric. If one of you quits, you have duo combos there for the remaining players.

Blue is your best option, plenty of folks with less-than-top-end gear you can basically get for free.

[PowaGamer]

War/Cleric/Enchanter

Monk/Sham/Enchanter

SK/Sham/Enchanter

SK/Cleric/Enchanter

** Necro/Necro/Bard **

Necro/Necro/Necro

Necro/Necro/Enchanter

Necro/Druid/Bard


Bold would be my experienced opinion because I know how insanely powerful 2 necros are and how insanely powerful a Bard + Necro are together. I once boxed 5 Necros and 1 Bard. Dungeon Crawling in Sol A, Sol B, and Guk = easy. Killing Guardian Wurms in Skyfire = Easy.

It's Pure and Ultimate Power. With Bard mana & HP regen + Necro HP to mana conversion you have zero down time. However without melody, your bard will have to learn to twist. Bards main songs will be HP, Mana, Run & Speed, however the bard can also swarm kite the necro's targets and then you're dominating (as if you weren't already). Also fun fact, your 3 man becomes a 5 man with 2 necro pets. And when you get the mask (Mask of Deception) that turns you into a Dark Elf, now you guys are 3 Dark Elfs. Also with 2 Dark Elfs & 1 Wood Elf, you can bank or sell wherever you want because you're rocking 2 factions.

This is the funnest playstyle in my opinion. + There's literally nothing in the game you can't conquer.

[Master Roshi]

Trio, starting in Faydwer:

Pally, Druid, Enc

The newb does Pally, the semi-EQer does Druid, and you do Enc. Gives you rez, ports, heals, cc, slow and dps.

Edit: Blue, cause you can twink cheap AF

also edit: Read OP is tired of Enc, you could rep with Bard, but you lose a lot of DPS w/o Enc charm pet.

[Gustoo]

I would have to agree on the necro necro bard combo for just destroying the game.

[Naethyn]

I like necro, necro, shaman for Iksar buds.

[Gustoo]

So much weaker without the bard powers though.

Necro necro necro maybe.

[Tunabros]

in my opinion, any trio could technically work as long as there is a shaman to slow things

[PowaGamer]

So much weaker without the bard powers though.

Necro necro necro maybe.

Nah, Necro Necro Bard. The bard means unlimited Mana + Speed for easy kiteing. Bard mana Regen, HP Regen for the Necros = unlimited Mana. 2 Necros alone are savage. The Bard is worth much much more than a 3rd Necro.

[FrenchWrath]

Trio, starting in Faydwer:

Pally, Druid, Enc

The newb does Pally, the semi-EQer does Druid, and you do Enc. Gives you rez, ports, heals, cc, slow and dps.

Edit: Blue, cause you can twink cheap AF

also edit: Read OP is tired of Enc, you could rep with Bard, but you lose a lot of DPS w/o Enc charm pet.

I was thinking something like that actually... Good for Faydwer.

[FrenchWrath]

Nah, Necro Necro Bard. The bard means unlimited Mana + Speed for easy kiteing. Bard mana Regen, HP Regen for the Necros = unlimited Mana. 2 Necros alone are savage. The Bard is worth much much more than a 3rd Necro.

I love necros and bards but rarely played them together... could be nice indeed.

[Gustoo]

Nah, Necro Necro Bard. The bard means unlimited Mana + Speed for easy kiteing. Bard mana Regen, HP Regen for the Necros = unlimited Mana. 2 Necros alone are savage. The Bard is worth much much more than a 3rd Necro.

I agree. I was comparing his alternative to the 2 necros plus bard combo which is pretty supreme


Most of the time when someone does a combo though they want to have fun and variety not just win. For efficiency probably just necros and mages throwing pets and destroying all of norrath is probably the way to go but for having a good time a more classic combo like the enchy cleric warrior (or monk) is really efficient and fun.

But pet classes win

[Crede]

Since you don't want to be an enchanter, I'd go mage/bard/cleric for a fay trio. You do the bard, your brother does the cleric, and your brand new friend does the mage. Extremely powerful trio that is both experienced & beginner friendly.

I'd recommend blue if you want to stick with just the 3 of you together, but go green if you want to group with others as well.

[Zipity]

Ench ench ench

[Ennewi]

With the no Enchanter and Faydwer-only restrictions specified, I would second the recommendation of a Bard, Paladin, Druid trio. Bard and Druid damage shields can compensate for the Paladin's weak melee. The Druid can charm animals for additional DPS later on and there should always be enough heals/cc between the three of you to avoid getting in over your heads, plus the Druid can hit the evac button if you're all overtaken by adds. Otherwise, you could always swap out Paladin for Ranger and Druid for Cleric. Neither trio is the absolute "best" but both seem like they would offer enough fun and diversity.

Blue if you want cheaper gear and your pick of the low level camps. Green if you want them to experience classic as you did.

[enjchanter]

hi everyone,

I am going to be playing with my brother who played EQ briefly in 2001 and a childhood friend who has never played. I have been playing all flavors of EQ since the original Beta. In order to keep things simple, we are going to start in Faydwer. I was wondering if anyone had a trio suggestion for Faydwer knowing that there will be one experienced player (me) and 2 total newbies. Also would you recommend green or blue server? It seems blue would be quite empty for us to level and there is no class xp penalty but green might be a more authentic experience for them.

Thanks!


pro tip: people who are not nostalgic for classic everquest, will not like classic everquest 9/10 times. Would recommend blue for compromised streamlined experience whilst still being mostly classic

but besides that, i agree with naethyn. Just bring the holy trinity whereever you go and you automatically win the game 1-59.99

[unleashedd]

a duo is more susceptible to incorrect composition. any trio will work, even 3 clerics

[Keebz]

Honestly, I think adding druid even though it's suboptimal in the long run is a good idea just for ease of transportation and it being a decent class to hand to a complete noob.

Given the restrictions, necro/druid/mage would be my pick.

You get 2 overpowered pets, sow, ports, 2 types of charms, 2 types of lulls, harmony, ivu, invis, fd and all the other awesome necro utility. I'd suggest you play the necro of course.

As for server, Green is much more interesting imho. For example, you can actually farm gear that matters as you level up, and you'll run into people along the way.

[Bardp1999]

I'd pick a solo class because if the other 2 people haven't played EQ before.... you are going to end up alone after about a week (terrible UI/clunky play/unforgiving mechanics/confusing world/no tutorial)

[Toxigen]

I'd pick a solo class because if the other 2 people haven't played EQ before.... you are going to end up alone after about a week (terrible UI/clunky play/unforgiving mechanics/confusing world/no tutorial)

Hence my recommendation of 3x iksar monk / necro / shaman on blue for a more forgiving experience for people completely new to EQ. It really is a stellar trio...and the starting FoB ---> Kurns is a great intro.

Put the guy most likely to stop playing on the necro and if he quits you still have monk + shaman. If 2 people quit the guy has 3 strong / capable classes to pick from.

[Crede]

Nah, Necro Necro Bard. The bard means unlimited Mana + Speed for easy kiteing. Bard mana Regen, HP Regen for the Necros = unlimited Mana. 2 Necros alone are savage. The Bard is worth much much more than a 3rd Necro.

This trio sounds terribad for 55+ named content. Most definitely swap out a Necro for either a shaman or cleric.

[Raeff]

While i cant speak to the validity of this combo on p99, it is what i found myself in on live from mid kunark thru GoD+.

Druid, Enchanter, SK.

Druid allows for ensnares on charms, this allows a safety net for the enchanter to keep charms hasted. SK is for pulling and tanking just long enough to ensure charms have aggros, or the occasional bad repop/pather is mez/rooted. Since the SK isnt fully tanking and the enchanter is squishier druid heals/hots were enough. Depending on the zone you can be running 2 charms. You also have SoW, ports, and clarity. Along with fd corpse retrieval if things go terrible.

The 2 downsides, since you are enchantered out you would need to trust someone else to play that role. 2nd Gnome SK's arent available until Luclin so whoever plays the SK would need to travel.

[Gustoo]

Just roll 3 paladins obviously.

Can break up camps and heal each other. Good to go

[Kawhi]

If you don't want to play enc, I'd have someone else play enc. They are just too good.

And I'm going to go against the thread and say necro/necro isn't great because their dots don't stack. Necro/necro is good in charming undead situations but necro/mage would be better in most situations if you want two pet classes, imo. But there aren't enough gnome necros for sure! (only fey race that can roll necro)

I'd go Pal/Enc/Clr personally if you want all three to have starting cities in Fey, but on blue you'd find porters would be happy to take 3 noobs from around norrath and help bring them together for free.

[Gustoo]

Kawhi I think Pal / Enc / Clr is cool but all 3 of these classes have the same CC spells which makes me think an SK would be better, if not a monk or warriro for the melee.

[FrenchWrath]

We could also go all casters: druid, mage, enchanter. Wouldn't be a bad combo.

[Keebz]

We could also go all casters: druid, mage, enchanter. Wouldn't be a bad combo.

I would definitely go all casters.

If ench is back in the mix, with that trio I'd sub necro for mage or druid for cleric.

[FrenchWrath]

I would definitely go all casters.

If ench is back in the mix, with that trio I'd sub necro for mage or druid for cleric.

Necro for mage makes sense. I guess I'm not sure about Gnome necro faction in Faydwer. Not sure about cleric though... Druid brings SOW and Ports and should be fine as a healer for group content, no?

[Crede]

Kawhi I think Pal / Enc / Clr is cool but all 3 of these classes have the same CC spells which makes me think an SK would be better, if not a monk or warriro for the melee.

People say war/cleric/enc is the best trio but I do feel that sk/cleric/enc in the current state of blue is the best trio in the game. Sk fd, snap aggro, and overall utility outweighs maybe the 1-2 fights if any that a trio would truly need warrior defensive discs to make up the difference between a win or loss.

[Gustoo]

Yeah I agree with that.

Maybe Monk, for feign death and no EXP penalty and better damage output and also mend.

[Naethyn]

I pick warrior over knights because you don’t need knight abilities and warriors do a lot more dps and never need to med. At 60 you can take the pick of guilds because cleric and warrior can get whatever they want.

[Gustoo]

The coolest trio would be a Warrior, Monk, and a Rogue.

Make a muggles only guild called "Hard Mode" and see how many raid encounters you can brute force with no spells.

[Kawhi]

People say war/cleric/enc is the best trio but I do feel that sk/cleric/enc in the current state of blue is the best trio in the game. Sk fd, snap aggro, and overall utility outweighs maybe the 1-2 fights if any that a trio would truly need warrior defensive discs to make up the difference between a win or loss.

The only reason I didn't say SK over Pal was the desire to be on Fey. Otherwise I'd agree SK/enc/cleric would be best.

[FrenchWrath]

Well in the end, one of them wanted to be a monk and the other a shaman so we'll be doing the Lizzie Trio Monk/Shaman/Necro!

[Gustoo]

Thanks for the update. The lizzie trio is an awesome way to go. Don't kill Burynai till you want to be KOS to them in kurns.

[FrenchWrath]

Thanks for the update. The lizzie trio is an awesome way to go. Don't kill Burynai till you want to be KOS to them in kurns.

Thanks for the tip!

[Gustoo]

(it makes the kurns tower experience a lot easier when they aren't KOS to you and you can just get the skellies.

Man sounds so fun. If I had the time I would make a warrior and try to tag along for a while.

[FrenchWrath]

(it makes the kurns tower experience a lot easier when they aren't KOS to you and you can just get the skellies.

Man sounds so fun. If I had the time I would make a warrior and try to tag along for a while.

hehe if you want but at least one of them talks no English and the other (my bro) has limited English so it's going to be a French party!

[Gustoo]

Awesome. French Lizards.

I never find time to play, Just dreaming.

[Keebz]

Lizzy trio is chouette

That is gonna be a blast. Great choice!

[FrenchWrath]

Awesome. French Lizards.

I never find time to play, Just dreaming.

French Frogloks might have been more appropriate but not on this server:)

[Gustoo]

Yeah I wish! I wish I explored the froglok city more in live because frogloks were so cool. Never played em though. Never played beastmaster either.

[Zipity]

Well in the end, one of them wanted to be a monk and the other a shaman so we'll be doing the Lizzie Trio Monk/Shaman/Necro!

Great great trio, with double pets, slows, Regen, haste and dots and easy splits you guys will be shredding anything and everything. I second not killing Burnyai as the monk and shaman will want to get an iksar berserker club from Kurns as soon as possible if y’all are truly starting fresh.

[Toxigen]

Well in the end, one of them wanted to be a monk and the other a shaman so we'll be doing the Lizzie Trio Monk/Shaman/Necro!

Hell yeah, glad you took my advice! I always wanted to static that trio after now having played monk, shaman, and necro all separately.

Give me a heads up when you guys are gonna be on / starting via PM. Ill try to get my druid out there and give ya a little boost (if starting on blue).

Also make sure to tell your bros about the wiki. Will help them tremendously even finding vendors in town for spells, etc and will cut down on a lot of the new-to-eq-frustration people tend to quit over. P99 is my first EQ experience as well and I pretty much had the wiki page(s) open every time I played for a long, long time.

[FrenchWrath]

Hell yeah, glad you took my advice! I always wanted to static that trio after now having played monk, shaman, and necro all separately.

Give me a heads up when you guys are gonna be on / starting via PM. Ill try to get my druid out there and give ya a little boost (if starting on blue).

Also make sure to tell your bros about the wiki. Will help them tremendously even finding vendors in town for spells, etc and will cut down on a lot of the new-to-eq-frustration people tend to quit over. P99 is my first EQ experience as well and I pretty much had the wiki page(s) open every time I played for a long, long time.

Thanks! We are on green actually. I started a discord server just for us and posted plenty of links to the wiki for them to read!! Since it's going to be slow at the beginning I also started a bard in Qeynos... I may swap my Necro for the Bard later on when more CC is needed...

[Gustoo]

Nice you will not be far behind other iksars kunark hasn't been out that long so its a good way to roll.

[Toxigen]

Thanks! We are on green actually. I started a discord server just for us and posted plenty of links to the wiki for them to read!! Since it's going to be slow at the beginning I also started a bard in Qeynos... I may swap my Necro for the Bard later on when more CC is needed...

Definitely check out Kaesora on your way up through your upper 30s / low 40s. Wildly underrated zone (although I imagine will be busy on green). You can also get a piece for your Howling Stones key while you're there!

[Gustoo]

I bet Kaesora is empty.

[Kawhi]

Monk/Shaman/Necro all iksar is pretty elite I must say.

[A Knight]

I think if they want to learn monk and shaman that would be good for them. Then you can play necro as the professional and lay back and relax while being ready to direct chaos if it happens.

I actually need to learn monk myself but am afraid.

[unleashedd]

1. turn off attack
2. FD
3. ???
4. profit

[A Knight]

Indeed. I was thinking recently monk must be a safe class to learn. So much responsibility on ones shoulders but you have so many defenses and fail safe switches its probably one of the safest.

I'm also new to the idea that not every zone is super hard. Blackburrow is almost empty with NPC sometimes. Could even maybe use some more

[FrenchWrath]

Well we made it to level 4 so far! I forgot how useful Locate corpse can be with newbies:) been using it a lot in Lake or Ill Omen...

[unleashedd]

fob > loio by orders of magnitude, specifically mob density

[Toxigen]

Well we made it to level 4 so far! I forgot how useful Locate corpse can be with newbies:) been using it a lot in Lake or Ill Omen...

stay in fob for as long as they are blue xp, then go into kurns tower