China fights back against Fake News

[Cassawary]

Zhang Zhan jailed for 'provoking trouble' with Wuhan reporting (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/chinese-citizen-journalist-zhang-zhan-jailed-provoking-trouble-wuhan-reporting-n1252403)

Zhang was detained in May and accused of spreading false information, giving interviews to foreign media, disrupting social order and attacking the government.

...

On Monday, she was convicted on charges of “picking quarrels and provoking trouble,”

[Thulian]

we have the same communism in america with the news not reporting the election fraud and refusing to investigate hunter biden.

Our country is now a big joke too

[Jibartik]

I want to see a movie about these guys https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Workers_Party

[Domo]

we have the same communism in america with the news not reporting the election fraud and refusing to investigate hunter biden.

Our country is now a big joke too

https://i.imgur.com/0DvV29r.jpeg

[Lune]

we have the same communism in america with the news not reporting the election fraud and refusing to investigate hunter biden.

Our country is now a big joke too

China isn't a communist country. The behavior you're referring to is authoritarianism, which is an entirely different concept.

If America didn't have a free media, we wouldn't have had 24/7 coverage of every one of Trump's spoken words for years and years leading up to his presidency, providing free campaign exposure into every American home and injecting him prominently into our national consciousness.

If America didn't have a free media, Trump would have been buried like China buried coronavirus.

Perhaps you should consider that there is simply nothing substantive to investigate about Hunter Biden, otherwise Fox News would have found it, and that it's simply a right wing attempt at a smear campaign along the lines of "hurr emailz"

[feniin]

What happened to Trump putting Hillary and Obama in jail over the last 4 years anyway? Oh - there wasn't a crime to charge them with? It was all propaganda? Weird.

[Llanos]

China isn't a communist country. The behavior you're referring to is authoritarianism, which is an entirely different concept.

If America didn't have a free media, we wouldn't have had 24/7 coverage of every one of Trump's spoken words for years and years leading up to his presidency, providing free campaign exposure into every American home and injecting him prominently into our national consciousness.

If America didn't have a free media, Trump would have been buried like China buried coronavirus.

Perhaps you should consider that there is simply nothing substantive to investigate about Hunter Biden, otherwise Fox News would have found it, and that it's simply a right wing attempt at a smear campaign along the lines of "hurr emailz"

Do you honestly believe this? Like for real? A free press? No a free press would report facts only. A propaganda machine does nothing for four years but censor voices they don't approve of and slander a president, usually with fake news and half truths.

There is a mountain of evidence. I don't understand why smooth brain lefties can't just tell the truth. None if you care about the rules or our constitution. You irrationally hate someone you have never met and want him gone by any means necessary. Including fraud and selling our country out.

This is your idea of freedom? January 6th can't get here fast enough. See you in D.C.

[imperiouskitten]

Do you honestly believe this? Like for real? A free press? No a free press would report facts only. A propaganda machine does nothing for four years but censor voices they don't approve of and slander a president, usually with fake news and half truths.

There is a mountain of evidence. I don't understand why smooth brain lefties can't just tell the truth. None if you care about the rules or our constitution. You irrationally hate someone you have never met and want him gone by any means necessary. Including fraud and selling our country out.

This is your idea of freedom? January 6th can't get here fast enough. See you in D.C.

he's right, Trump never would have won if the BushClintonDemPentagon regime were legit authoritarian. Fact is, AMerican institution stronk. You have a red colored bug up your ass if you can't acknowledge the difference between a corrupt corporate press, whose profit motive won Don the election thanks to his SicKTasTiC entertaining mAyMays, and state media which woulda buried him.

Not really a leftie or righty point. The fact you boil it down suchly reveals the smoothness of your own B. Shake that moneymaker everythang a hat trick

PS electoral college has certified Biden's election. What are you expecting January 6? A coup? you are literally delusional, frothing at the mouth, replying to ppl not even engaging with your point to push your laughable psychosis. American institution too stronk for your garbage.

[feniin]

Do you honestly believe this? Like for real? A free press? No a free press would report facts only. A propaganda machine does nothing for four years but censor voices they don't approve of and slander a president, usually with fake news and half truths.

There is a mountain of evidence. I don't understand why smooth brain lefties can't just tell the truth. None if you care about the rules or our constitution. You irrationally hate someone you have never met and want him gone by any means necessary. Including fraud and selling our country out.

This is your idea of freedom? January 6th can't get here fast enough. See you in D.C.

Do you honestly believe this? Like for real?

[imperiouskitten]

Do you honestly believe this? Like for real?

false information and lack of civic literacy is killing us. There are a ton of people who expect Biden to be blocked in January. The storyline involves something like Pence refusing to do the swearing-in ceremony, which they believe will make Biden not the President. It's batshit retarded, but like a Jesus Return Date, I'm sure that all of the delusional will find some reason to not feel stupid when the prophecy fails. And keep hooting like apes.

[imperiouskitten]

I think Thulian is probably just trolling though

[Gravydoo II]

They dont even know that communism means no private property. Thats the MAIN element of communism. Everything is owned by the state. All business, all property, and anything not nailed down. So how exactly is china "communist" when they allow people to have private property and own business' outside of the government control?

Can you even define communism...? Maybe tell us three or four of the main feature of communism which makes it different from socialism or marxism?? Anyone?

Yea. I didnt think you could, either.

[Thulian]

https://i.imgur.com/0DvV29r.jpeg

Location: Germany

Just a reminder you are watching our politics because they are more fun then your own.

Germany is so fucking irrelevant has anything happened in your country in 5 years?

10?

20?

[regandna]

This post makes me sad. To think that we have people who think this poor journalist was jailed for reporting on a fake story in Wuhan – is absurd! China has a long history of incarcerating people who report on things they do not want them to, i.e., their government. Just google "China locks up Hong Kong journalist," and I am sure you will find two or three stories as of recent. They do this to stop other journalists from speaking out on stories that they want to keep hush, hush.

[regandna]

They don't even know that communism means no private property. Thats the MAIN element of communism. Everything is owned by the state. All business, all property, and anything not nailed down. So how exactly is china "communist" when they allow people to have private property and own business' outside of the government control?

Can you even define communism...? Maybe tell us three or four of the main feature of communism which makes it different from socialism or marxism?? Anyone?

Yea. I didnt think you could, either.

First, you sound like you know the definition of Communism, but clearly, you have not done any basic research and are spewing. In China, they own their houses that sit on the land or have transferrable land rights. The Chinese government or collectives own the land and lease it to the people. That sounds communistic to me?

Next, Communism is a derivative or marxism.. so there is interrelation. But to cut to the chase, modern-day communism accomplishes the goal of dogmatic control (i.e., owning your property), by owning the businesses. If you look up China's largest companies, they are all either completely state-owned or partially state-owned. The Chinese government will also force the companies to allow their "party members" to sit on the board or in other pivotal roles.

Society, in general, has swung its pendulum towards capitalism, so there is no need for communist countries to own everyone's property. The goal of that is to keep people poor and submissive, correct? They do that now by controlling the way their businesses function and thus keeping a cap on their society. I will agree that this might not fall within the confines of the generic definition of communism, but it is clearly a modern-day expansion of that.

*mic dropped*

[Jibartik]

Generally speaking, the Chinese government may take back allocated land-use rights at any time without any compensation.

https://www.loc.gov/law/foreign-news/article/china-revised-land-administration-law-takes-effect/

[regandna]

Generally speaking, the Chinese government may take back allocated land-use rights at any time without any compensation.

https://www.loc.gov/law/foreign-news/article/china-revised-land-administration-law-takes-effect/


That sounds like communism to me! Lol!

[Llanos]

false information and lack of civic literacy is killing us. There are a ton of people who expect Biden to be blocked in January. The storyline involves something like Pence refusing to do the swearing-in ceremony, which they believe will make Biden not the President. It's batshit retarded, but like a Jesus Return Date, I'm sure that all of the delusional will find some reason to not feel stupid when the prophecy fails. And keep hooting like apes.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/dec/21/why-i-will-not-accept-joe-biden-as-president/


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hKDXVo-OKeQ&feature=youtu.be



https://twitter.com/newtgingrich/status/1343579434230697985?s=20

If we are crazy then there are an awful lot of us crazy people. And you know how us crazy people are. We do crazy things like start revolutions.

Only 15% of the country wanted to go to war against Great Britain. Would you say 15% or more of the country is crazy?

[Gravydoo II]

I will agree that this might not fall within the confines of the generic definition of communism, but it is clearly a modern-day expansion of that.

*mic dropped*

So they put a cap on society and the heights they can reach, right?
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/oct/21/china-overtakes-us-in-rankings-of-worlds-richest-people

buh-but.. the cap.. You said they dont let people get rich... I didnt say "chinas largest companies" did I?? Learn to fucking read. I said every business. Any legal business will be state owned. Thats the whole "totalitarianism" part of communism. Its not communism if its not totalitarianism. Use the proper word, if you're going to use it. You just admitted that its not communism. Go pick up your little mic.

[BarnabusCollins]

God is always here. You do not seek you do not find.

[regandna]

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/dec/21/why-i-will-not-accept-joe-biden-as-president/


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hKDXVo-OKeQ&feature=youtu.be



https://twitter.com/newtgingrich/status/1343579434230697985?s=20

If we are crazy then there are an awful lot of us crazy people. And you know how us crazy people are. We do crazy things like start revolutions.

Only 15% of the country wanted to go to war against Great Britain. Would you say 15% or more of the country is crazy?

I would say about 9% of America is unstable enough to go to civil war. However, 3% would leave once it started, and you would probably gain another 10% of the stable people in the chaos.

[BarnabusCollins]

Washington DC and CNN/Fauxnews don't live in my head rent free. Why worry about things you can do nothing about? Play Everquest and forget about the rest. Life's a test, do your best.

[regandna]

So they put a cap on society and the heights they can reach, right?
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/oct/21/china-overtakes-us-in-rankings-of-worlds-richest-people

buh-but.. the cap.. You said they dont let people get rich... I didnt say "chinas largest companies" did I?? Learn to fucking read. I said every business. Any legal business will be state owned. Thats the whole "totalitarianism" part of communism. Its not communism if its not totalitarianism. Use the proper word, if you're going to use it. You just admitted that its not communism. Go pick up your little mic.

https://qz.com/1708662/chinese-tech-giants-tools-of-the-communist-party-us-official/

https://www.forbes.com/china-billionaires/list/

China owns the part of the companies, or at the very least, entrenches their state actors into the companies. Therefore, they decided who thrives and who doesn't. Thus deciding who is rich and who is not. I am not sure what you think you proved, but I will pick up my mic and carry on.

[Gravydoo II]

You said it all. The communism you're talking about and reality are two different things. Making it, not communism.

Oh and now Joe Biden of all people are going to bring communism to america lol.. i love it. I never said they are not picking winners and losers. That happens in the USA with every bail out and PPP loan approval/denial. So we're communist now? That darn o-communist-bama hussatan barack.

You are positive that every single person who makes a decent living in china is under the boot of communism.. so dumb.

[regandna]

I never said, "every single person who makes a decent living in China is under the boot of communism." Those are your words. All I am saying is Chine is definitely a communist country. Maybe they follow more of a totalitarian view nowadays, but they still have communistic roots. I see you never addressed the fact that they do not typically let people own land. Explain how that is not communism?

[Jimjam]

Do you honestly believe this? Like for real? A free press? No a free press would report facts only. A propaganda machine does nothing for four years but censor voices they don't approve of and slander a president, usually with fake news and half truths.

There is a mountain of evidence. I don't understand why smooth brain lefties can't just tell the truth. None if you care about the rules or our constitution. You irrationally hate someone you have never met and want him gone by any means necessary. Including fraud and selling our country out.

This is your idea of freedom? January 6th can't get here fast enough. See you in D.C.

Why on earth would a press free of regulation and funding be incentivised to report facts?

[imperiouskitten]

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/dec/21/why-i-will-not-accept-joe-biden-as-president/


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hKDXVo-OKeQ&feature=youtu.be



https://twitter.com/newtgingrich/status/1343579434230697985?s=20

If we are crazy then there are an awful lot of us crazy people. And you know how us crazy people are. We do crazy things like start revolutions.

Only 15% of the country wanted to go to war against Great Britain. Would you say 15% or more of the country is crazy?
I'm not sure what you're getting at. I understand your sentiments, but you are "batshit retarded" if you think the election is going to be undone. Just as when Donald Trump was duly elected to a chorus of screams, Biden will be sworn in. Such is the strength of our institutions.

That you would go to war to destroy those institutions just to put the RINOs back in office over Joe Biden (equivalent) demonstrates how completely delusional you are about who the actors are and what they represent.

Why on earth would a press free of regulation and funding be incentivised to report facts?

He thinks profit motive = good, and therefore it automagically produces good things. He does not trace the logic that its motive would be solely to drive the profit of its business thru consumption of its media, because deep within him "profit motive" has been equated with "goodness, purity". Neurolinguistic programming. The more you think about it the more sickening it is.

As to the "why", it's because he is naturally submissive, a follower, and therefore credulous enough to be whisked along on a sugarplum narrative all the way to Hell if he can just find enough friends (and a leader) to take him there. He will believe anything he hears if it makes him feel like he's resisting the bad guys. As he reads this, he believes I am some kind of Biden-consumed robot equivalent but opposite him. Black and white oppositional thinking has consumed his mind, thanks to a for-profit info matrix which has turned him into a rabid consumer of dogshit reporting, and no sound educational background or intellectually worthy loved ones to oppose those influences.

[BarnabusCollins]

Alot of people died so we could argue against government freely. You cant do that in China.

[Jibartik]

lol gravy are you trying to argue that the chinese communist party is not?

Is this waht the next 4 years is going to be like? People trying to tell people the CCP is not communist, or authoritarian?

Someone kill me in a civil war quick.

[imperiouskitten]

China may have proven you don't need freedom to generate general prosperity and an okay quality of life, but fuck being muzzled so tight. I gotta meme out online and write crazy shit

[Gravydoo II]

Its not "communism" like americans say when referring to democrats and what not. Its not even communism in the traditional sense, anymore.

[imperiouskitten]

communism doesn't even mean anything anymore except as a historical term. It's been so overapplied and overstretched you're better off with a different word.

China ain't working to foment a global worker's revolution in any sense of the phrase, but rather to produce an ethnic/cultural hegemony, so I would agree it's not really communist in any meaningful way. But really it's just an authoritarian state with its own characteristics. It just is. I'd compare it to nazism first because of the emphasis on stratification and race and expansionism but it's all semantic goobergames. I'm sure we can agree it's "a little too tightly controlled" and "scary" for our tastes

[Thulian]

some poor girl in saudi arabia that lobbied to have women drive got 6 years today lol

[Lune]

lol gravy are you trying to argue that the chinese communist party is not?

Is this waht the next 4 years is going to be like? People trying to tell people the CCP is not communist, or authoritarian?

Someone kill me in a civil war quick.

They are the CCP nominally only. China hasn't had a communist market since before the reforms in the 70's and 80's. Communism would denote some kind of systematic sharing of resources, communal property, or redistribution, which does not exist. I challenge anyone to make an actual factual argument with evidence of Chinese communism. China is de facto a state capitalist system, and it has far more in common with national socialisms/fascism than it does communism. Even the Chinese constitution explicitly and boldly defines the CCP and the Chinese system as a whole as "socialism with Chinese characteristics".

The Chinese allow parallel operation of mixed market capitalism and free enterprise with major government intervention to 'guide' the economy as they see fit. Sound familiar? That's exactly what we do here in the United States, except we have different priorities and a different level of 'guidance'. China's system closely resembles how things operated in Fascist Germany-- healthy free enterprise activity, but heavy state participation in certain industries that are relevant to the state's strategic plan, and regulation of industries and activities deemed "parasitic" such as market speculation, excessive usury and the like.

This is why China has been so effective both at fostering immense economic growth and luring foreign investment, while simultaneously manipulating their currency and stealing Western intellectual property for use in home-grown, state-sponsored enterprises.

I think the confusion in this thread is yet another hilarious result of major deficits in US education regarding foreign countries. We got people making it to 2020 posting in this thread still thinking China is communist because no-one ever told them otherwise. lol

[Jibartik]

Ok what are they democratic socialists?

Please.

[imperiouskitten]

state capitalists is more descriptive I guess.

words don't have meaning if you stretch them too far dear. Nothing to do with being a fan of ching chong china.

Communist isn't literally a synonym for "bad strong government", it refers to specific things

[Jibartik]

In China Marxism is modified as the political ideology by the Communist Party of China to govern the party and the nation.

The important concepts of Marxism, such as the ruling class and the ruling ideas, the material labor and the mental labor, superstructure and economic base, and the ideological state apparatuses, are used by the paramount leaders of People's Republic of China to create guiding socio-political theories which make up the Chinese Marxist Philosophy.

[imperiouskitten]

now we're believing what the CCP says about itself? :cool:


there's a lineage. there have been several soft revolutions (great leap forward etc) which fundamentally altered "the superstructure" without erasing the base of the iconography of previous regimes. This is just a semantic argument, idk why ur so triggered lmao.

[Jibartik]

Well, if the air we breathe is a conspiracy I cant win an argument that it isnt.

[Lune]

Ok what are they democratic socialists?

Please.

Democratic socialism typically describes more open societies. I wouldn't call China 'democratic', they are far too authoritarian. China, though it aspires to be socialist, is not yet wealthy enough to support the types of safety nets and public institutions that characterize current, successful democratic-socialist states.

China has an entirely different governmental structure than Western states. For example, it has no parliament. It styles itself a "proletariat democracy" in contrast to Western "bourgeoisie democracy". It uses popular sovereignty as an excuse for its lapses in universal franchise, claiming that elections and parties will naturally be won by people with money, and the bourgeoisie will always be the people with money, and will thus always dominate in such a system.

In China Marxism is modified as the political ideology by the Communist Party of China to govern the party and the nation.

The important concepts of Marxism, such as the ruling class and the ruling ideas, the material labor and the mental labor, superstructure and economic base, and the ideological state apparatuses, are used by the paramount leaders of People's Republic of China to create guiding socio-political theories which make up the Chinese Marxist Philosophy.

Again, there have been many departures from Marxist rhetoric since the 1980's. China still lovingly clings to idealized Marxist concepts, but in practice the modern chinese state is a syncretic system, a mixed market with heavy government intervention that strives for socialism. Many of the Marxist elements that the CCP embraces are more cultural than economic, and are used to justify things like what I mentioned above, such as not having a parliament or constitution.

[Jibartik]

"china is not communist because us commie anarchists think its different our form of communism"

[imperiouskitten]

"hurrrrrr durrrrrrrrr they are not pure communism, pure communism has neeeeeever beeeen triiiiieed" -someone who is ripe to join a cult

oh i get it, ur debating something else entirely with that straw character over there. well, nice talk lol

feel better!

[Jibartik]

lol if you got that mad over it, you ARE ripe to join a cult IMP.

Cant believe you got upset over that lmao thats why I deleted it, cus I knew communists and humor dont mix.

but go on and tell me how tis not "true communists" that dont understand humor.

[imperiouskitten]

can't even discuss the meanings of words without setting off ppls static chips anymore. I wish i had more to argue with Lune about.

[Jibartik]

Because this is like one of those silly conversations where some far left extremist tries to say that only white people can be racist, because they re-define words to mean their SPECIFIC exact idiology.

Just like lune is doing right now trying to argue that because the COMMUNIST party of china uses supply and demand therefore, they CANNOT be communists.

Its absurd to argue that they are not communist.

It makes more sense to argue that Assentionalism is real than to argue that the CCP is not communist.

[imperiouskitten]

lol if you got that mad over it, you ARE ripe to join a cult IMP.

Cant believe you got upset over that lmao thats why I deleted it, cus I knew communists and humor dont mix.

but go on and tell me how tis not "true communists" that dont understand humor.

br0 i'm not a communist, i'm just saying communism was initially defined as pushing a world international revolution etc, and an economic system which China just doesn't do. So it's arguably Communist in name only. Like is North Korea really "democratic" cuz of the name? I have no other attachment to this at all, you are just going monkey brain and i feel sorry that this anxiety is in you

[imperiouskitten]

The core of this issue if the person saying it. You are fundamentally corrupt. You believe yourself to be a woman when you are really a man. Argue about it. Fight about it. Scheme about it.

Then you soft punk someone on the board who is pretty sharp about the meaning of words.

you're a sick, mean person. I see your static chip has also been set off. "Because of who I am", because you literally can't have a discussion without your prejudice trigger going off. Just eat shit, blake, seriously. You admit to being unable to interact with me in good faith. I have no idea why this triggered you both so much. Sick minds.

[Lune]

Because this is like one of those silly conversations where some far left extremist tries to say that only white people can be racist, because they re-define words to mean their SPECIFIC exact idiology.

Just like lune is doing right now trying to argue that because the COMMUNIST party of china uses supply and demand therefore, they CANNOT be communists.

Its absurd to argue that they are not communist.

It makes more sense to argue that Assentionalism is real than to argue that the CCP is not communist.

When you're in a frame of mind to learn factual information I'd encourage you to just read Google and wikipedia about how China actually works, because you're clearly not listening to what I'm telling you. I think you'll find it interesting that even though the party is called "communist" (because that's what it was called when it began during WW2 as an actual communist state) that it means the second largest economy on Earth is literally practicing anything resembling communism in any shape or form.

This isn't some semantic argument. Literally find one shred of evidence of communism in modern China.

[Jibartik]

Lune, you're describing the type of economic policy the communist party controls and changes as it see's fit.

Your inability to understand that concept means you suffer from this:


the confusion in this thread is yet another hilarious result of major deficits in US education regarding foreign countries.

[Mblake81]

you're a sick, mean person. I see your static chip has also been set off. "Because of who I am", because you literally can't have a discussion without your prejudice trigger going off. Just eat shit, blake, seriously. You admit to being unable to interact with me in good faith. I have no idea why this triggered you both so much. Sick minds.

Yes. I don't wish you harm but I can't do that.

[imperiouskitten]

Lune, you're describing the type of economic policy the communist party controls and changes as it see's fit.

Your inability to understand that concept means you suffer from this:

you refer only to authoritarian power, there's nothing fundamentally commie there.

I guess the DRK really is democratic, lol. Because I'm that anxious about commies.

[imperiouskitten]

Yes. I don't wish you harm but I can't do that.

If you don't wish me harm do not interact with me ever again. As you say, you cannot treat me in a Christian way.

[Jibartik]

you refer only to authoritarian power, there's nothing fundamentally commie there.

I guess the DRK really is democratic, lol. Because I'm that anxious about commies.

No im not, you're saying I am because you're trying to win an argument online by not listening or having an open mind.

[Mblake81]

If you don't wish me harm do not interact with me ever again. As you say, you cannot treat me in a Christian way.

Very well.

[imperiouskitten]

Well there's some development at least. Good talk Jibartik!

[Jibartik]

You guys may as well say you can't be racist unless your race holds all the power.

[imperiouskitten]

are you trolling right now? you seem really upset and with blake's meltdown too it's making me anxious

[imperiouskitten]

so far i identified 2 arguments. 1.) its called the communist party of china and 2.) it's authoritarian. I already rebutted those and then you repeated them and called me a bad faith talker and for some reason a communist too. I actually don't think a world worker's revolution would work out well for anybody, whaddya know. Zero hidden motive just talkin bout words. Anything else?

[Jibartik]

I would abide someone to say they are a communist party that operates differently than before, becuse they are not stupid idiots that are going to try to magically reverse the wheel of time to the 1800's so they could partake in a form of communism identical to the form written about the economic poicy of a non global world.

But if you're going to start that conversation with "everyone here is a victim of bad education, and the CCP is NOT communism"

Then you may as well hit yourself in the junk for me because that's a stupid way to live life.

[imperiouskitten]

he was just provoking you with that. Insecure cuz no college? Also, can you differentiate between individuals right now or is it like multiple voices coming from the same malevolent disembodied demon for you?

[Jibartik]

I don't have to like a bad attitude, to be secure.

[imperiouskitten]

I don't have to like a bad attitude, to be secure.

OK, now he's not even talking toward Lune-sama. I hope u recover from ur catatonia soon.

[Cassawary]

This post makes me sad. To think that we have people who think this poor journalist was jailed for reporting on a fake story in Wuhan – is absurd! China has a long history of incarcerating people who report on things they do not want them to, i.e., their government. Just google "China locks up Hong Kong journalist," and I am sure you will find two or three stories as of recent. They do this to stop other journalists from speaking out on stories that they want to keep hush, hush.

by the grace of God may we never take that path. :)

[Jibartik]

OK, now he's not even talking toward Lune-sama. I hope u recover from ur catatonia soon.

k! Sorry I hurt your feelings by badmouthing the CCP

[imperiouskitten]

by the grace of God may we never take that path. :)

ah jeez :( it's getting intolerably asylumlike in here pokesan

[Lune]

I would abide someone to say they are a communist party that operates differently than before, becuse they are not stupid idiots that are going to try to magically reverse the wheel of time to the 1800's so they could partake in a form of communism identical to the form written about the economic poicy of a non global world.

But if you're going to start that conversation with "everyone here is a victim of bad education, and the CCP is NOT communism"

Then you may as well hit yourself in the junk for me because that's a stupid way to live life.

I think I acknowledged what you are saying and you either didn't read it or didn't understand it. Yes, the CCP integrates socialist/Marxist, and even what you could possibly consider communist ideology in an abstract way in its design of the Chinese state, including some of the choices it made regarding representation, the Consitution, etc.

However, when I corrected Thulian and received a barrage of posts arguing that China was 'communist', every one of those posts mistook China's supposed communism for its actual authoritarianism. And those posts were the cause for my comment, not necessarily you specifically.

Like J said, China is as much Communist as the UK is a monarchy. Does the UK have a queen? Yes. Is the UK considered an actual monarchy by anyone other than American 3rd graders? No. Its monarchist elements are vestigial and functionally exist in name only. The UK calls itself a 'constitutional monarchy' but the crown has no real hard power.

[Cassawary]

ah jeez :( it's getting intolerably asylumlike in here pokesan

Idgi but I'm told 'no it's state capitalism' is tankie jabbering.

[imperiouskitten]

but if they arent communist, how can they be bad??? commie mean bad before bad mean bad, it break language!!

[Llanos]

[QUOTE=imperiouskitten;3235904]I'm not sure what you're getting at. I understand your sentiments, but you are "batshit retarded" if you think the election is going to be undone. Just as when Donald Trump was duly elected to a chorus of screams, Biden will be sworn in. Such is the strength of our institutions.

That you would go to war to destroy those institutions just to put the RINOs back in office over Joe Biden (equivalent) demonstrates how completely delusional you are about who the actors are and what they represent.

Someone mentally ill calling me "batshit retarded" is funny. You're a funny xim/xer/whatever.

And it's looking like the GoP may be splintering into Rinos and Maga Party.

[imperiouskitten]

Idgi but I'm told 'no it's state capitalism' is tankie jabbering.

idk it's just something i heard, it's not a centrally planned economy so ya maybe it's just straight capitalist. Just trying to help :(

[imperiouskitten]

I'm not sure what you're getting at. I understand your sentiments, but you are "batshit retarded" if you think the election is going to be undone. Just as when Donald Trump was duly elected to a chorus of screams, Biden will be sworn in. Such is the strength of our institutions.

That you would go to war to destroy those institutions just to put the RINOs back in office over Joe Biden (equivalent) demonstrates how completely delusional you are about who the actors are and what they represent.

Someone mentally ill calling me "batshit retarded" is funny. You're a funny xim/xer/whatever.

And it's looking like the GoP may be splintering into Rinos and Maga Party.

haha 'your a tranny' and a broken quote, nice cumback! just kidding, if i wanted cumback id get it off your lip

ps i'm a female you dont have to pretend confusion

[Jibartik]

I think I acknowledged what you are saying and you either didn't read it or didn't understand it. Yes, the CCP integrates socialist/Marxist, and even what you could possibly consider communist ideology in an abstract way in its design of the Chinese state, including some of the choices it made regarding representation, the Consitution, etc.

However, when I corrected Thulian and received a barrage of posts arguing that China was 'communist', every one of those posts mistook China's supposed communism for its actual authoritarianism. And those posts were the cause for my comment, not necessarily you specifically.

Like J said, China is as much Communist as the UK is a monarchy. Does the UK have a queen? Yes. Is the UK considered an actual monarchy by anyone other than American 3rd graders? No. Its monarchist elements are vestigial and functionally exist in name only. The UK calls itself a 'constitutional monarchy' but the crown has no real hard power.

I have given you at least 2 posts that explain why china is a communist country ruled by the CCP a communist party.

Your argument is the Crown in the UK holds the same power the CCP does.

[Cassawary]

And it's looking like the GoP may be splintering into Rinos and Maga Party.

Do you consider this a good thing for your team politically?

Please give your power of attorney to someone who truly loves you if so.

[imperiouskitten]

idk he set a pretty tight timeline for his humiliation. Jan 6. Jan 7 is Quote Llanos Day if anyone can be bothered

i prefer a cult with space ship liftoff a cpl years ahead, so i can enjoy the shaggy girls n acid koolaid some

[Llanos]

haha 'your a tranny' and a broken quote, nice cumback! just kidding, if i wanted cumback id get it off your lip

ps i'm a female you dont have to pretend confusion

You're not. But this is a board for fantasy characters. So I will pretend.

Did you have anything productive to add or just more impotent rage at my inability to care about formatting on my phone?

[imperiouskitten]

You're not. But this is a board for fantasy characters. So I will pretend.

Did you have anything productive to add or just more impotent rage at my inability to care about formatting on my phone?

you didn't rebut anything i posted and have ludicrous beliefs, ergo your rage is impotent while mine is victorious mockery

[Llanos]

Do you consider this a good thing for your team politically?

Please give your power of attorney to someone who truly loves you if so.

It's a good thing for the country. We need more than this tribalism us vs them two party system.

Maga/Repub/Democrat/Libertarian

We need to mix things up.

[imperiouskitten]

It's a good thing for the country. We need more than this tribalism us vs them two party system.

explain your behavior toward me then genius. ending tribalism, lol.

Enjoy your 7 days of " credibility ". then it's back to 4 posts per year I'm sure.

[Mblake81]

Do you consider this a good thing for your team politically?

Please give your power of attorney to someone who truly loves you if so.

Magas go back to silent majority. RINOs go back to Washington. Liberal voices return to previous octaves. Normal. The largest majority voted for normal.

[Lune]

Magas go back to silent majority.

..... yikes

[Cassawary]

Magas go back to silent majority. RINOs go back to Washington. Liberal voices return to previous octaves. Normal. The largest majority voted for normal.

Nope! If you split the right, the Dem/Left drowns both out easily at the polls.

It's a suicidal idea.

[Llanos]

you didn't rebut anything i posted and have ludicrous beliefs, ergo your rage is impotent while mine is victorious mockery

What would you like me to say? President Trump has put out some serious dog whistles for us.
He's called us to D.C. three times now. Said if this happened to a democratic president it would be war. Why would he be calling all of us crazy people to D.C. if he didn't have something planned?

And I linked you precedent from the Thomas Jefferson election that this could easily happen. And if Trump has enough followers in D.C. what are they gonna do, start shooting people in the street?

If they do, it would just give us what we want and knew all along. The left wants violence and people are ready for it. How much longer until this boils over? People are getting to their breaking points and Biden wants more lockdowns?

https://mobile.twitter.com/YALiberty/status/1343599353789874177?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1343599353789874177%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthedonald.win%2F

[imperiouskitten]

What would you like me to say? President Trump has put out some serious dog whistles for us.
He's called us to D.C. three times now. Said if this happened to a democratic president it would be war. Why would he be calling all of us crazy people to D.C. if he didn't have something planned?

And I linked you precedent from the Thomas Jefferson election that this could easily happen. And if Trump has enough followers in D.C. what are they gonna do, start shooting people in the street?

If they do, it would just give us what we want and knew all along. The left wants violence and people are ready for it. How much longer until this boils over? People are getting to their breaking points and Biden wants more lockdowns?

https://mobile.twitter.com/YALiberty/status/1343599353789874177?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1343599353789874177%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthedonald.win%2F

OK, so to clarify you are predicting a coup on January 6 with Trump having "something up his sleeve"? Just asking.

A followup; do you consider a coup against the duly elected President of the United States to be a conservative action? Do you identify as a conservative?

[Llanos]

explain your behavior toward me then genius. ending tribalism, lol.

Enjoy your 7 days of " credibility ". then it's back to 4 posts per year I'm sure.

You make up what, .02% of the population? There is no you. You are an outlier, an anamoly.

And my bad, does your glorious post count on a 20 year elf sim give your life meaning? It seems like it does or you wouldn't point out mine.

[Llanos]

OK, so to clarify you are predicting a coup on January 6 with Trump having "something up his sleeve"? Just asking.

A followup; do you consider a coup against the duly elected President of the United States to be a conservative action? Do you identify as a conservative?

Considering Trump is the duly elected President, that question is moot.

[imperiouskitten]

You make up what, .02% of the population? There is no you. You are an outlier, an anamoly.

And my bad, does your glorious post count on a 20 year elf sim give your life meaning? It seems like it does or you wouldn't point out mine.

Sooo my tribe too small to even pay attention to. Very principled return to individualism you call for:rolleyes:

[imperiouskitten]

and a retreat from making specific predictions. Dunked. Night guys.

[Llanos]

and a retreat from making specific predictions. Dunked. Night guys.

What's that saying about not playing chess with pigeons? They will just knocked the pieces off the board, shit all over the place, then prance around like they won?

I'm sure you can see where I'm going with this.

[imperiouskitten]

haha, yeah. See you January 6 the big day. I'll be watching for that ace up his sleeve, lemme know if I miss it.

Wish he'd had one up there to get the wall done.

[Thulian]

trump is calling people to DC ? Post something i would like to read

[FatherSioux]

Is there agreement here that China is an evil empire that we should oppose?

Do Uighur lives matter? Is it cool to build islands to expand reach? Is it cool to want to monopolizes the moon?

Lefties tend to believe communism/socialism would work if only it wa tried in a new way. China is clearly doing that, trying a new approach and it’s working to ensnare the woke crowd.

China is a scourge in the planet, the people of China are not free. Facts.

[Cassawary]

Is there agreement here that China is an evil empire that we should oppose?

Do Uighur lives matter? Is it cool to build islands to expand reach? Is it cool to want to monopolizes the moon?

Lefties tend to believe communism/socialism would work if only it wa tried in a new way. China is clearly doing that, trying a new approach and it’s working to ensnare the woke crowd.

China is a scourge in the planet, the people of China are not free. Facts.

Will we be greeted as liberators? :p

[magnetaress]

Remember my posts in 2015 and 16 and 17

this is just the trump version of Maerillith or w/e that accounts name was i can't spel it properly RIP all the characters i dont remember the pastwords too :(

ProTip: Be hygenic, of mind, body, and spirit. Your EQ adventures will be fuller, funner, and last forever in your pristine jesus like mind and body space.

[Wrekt]

They are the CCP nominally only. China hasn't had a communist market since before the reforms in the 70's and 80's. Communism would denote some kind of systematic sharing of resources, communal property, or redistribution, which does not exist. I challenge anyone to make an actual factual argument with evidence of Chinese communism. China is de facto a state capitalist system, and it has far more in common with national socialisms/fascism than it does communism. Even the Chinese constitution explicitly and boldly defines the CCP and the Chinese system as a whole as "socialism with Chinese characteristics".

The Chinese allow parallel operation of mixed market capitalism and free enterprise with major government intervention to 'guide' the economy as they see fit. Sound familiar? That's exactly what we do here in the United States, except we have different priorities and a different level of 'guidance'. China's system closely resembles how things operated in Fascist Germany-- healthy free enterprise activity, but heavy state participation in certain industries that are relevant to the state's strategic plan, and regulation of industries and activities deemed "parasitic" such as market speculation, excessive usury and the like.

This is why China has been so effective both at fostering immense economic growth and luring foreign investment, while simultaneously manipulating their currency and stealing Western intellectual property for use in home-grown, state-sponsored enterprises.

I think the confusion in this thread is yet another hilarious result of major deficits in US education regarding foreign countries. We got people making it to 2020 posting in this thread still thinking China is communist because no-one ever told them otherwise. lol

I've seen you say some shit that I think must be trolling. But, this here is on the mark. I've seen much more compelling arguments suggesting that China is fascist than communist.

The only aptitude that the aspiring Kulaks in this thread possess is the ability to lick a boot while it is on their necks. Sad, honestly...

[Gravydoo II]

I told you they were fucking idiots... They think china is communist. They think stalin rules in russia. They think that the native americans are from mexico. This is what they teach kids at christian schools.. They have their own books from 1981 full of lies about the world to scare kids into staying in america and staying stupid. They gulp it down like jesus piss.

[regandna]

Is there agreement here that China is an evil empire that we should oppose?

Do Uighur lives matter? [T]he people of China are not free. Facts.

[regandna]

You hit the nail on the head Sioux!

[Mblake81]

They have their own books from 1981 full of lies about the world to scare kids into staying in america and staying stupid.

Yep.

[Llanos]

trump is calling people to DC ? Post something i would like to read


https://thedonald.win/

Click the first post. There are two more but that's the first. You may be shocked when you go there.

It's kind of like here actually. It's free speech. There are crazies (like myself apparently) and even leftish shills. We don't BAN anyone unless there's the normal stuff you get banned for posting. Death threats, pedophilia, etc.

We just downvote them and ignore them like a free society is supposed to do.

You can tell we are on target because google has now put a disclaimer two days ago that the website "may be hacked" because it's rising in popularity at a fast rate per the data of most frequented websites.

Do a Google search for it. Its not hacked. They are getting scared.

[HalflingSpergand]

China is a large area of land that is extremely beautiful if yhe pictures are true. Also i r ally like most chinese people ive met much better than the folks running our government

[Jimjam]

Is there agreement here that China is an evil empire that we should oppose?

Do Uighur lives matter? Is it cool to build islands to expand reach? Is it cool to want to monopolizes the moon?

Lefties tend to believe communism/socialism would work if only it wa tried in a new way. China is clearly doing that, trying a new approach and it’s working to ensnare the woke crowd.

China is a scourge in the planet, the people of China are not free. Facts.

Competitive capitalism, social programs, regulation, accountability, freedom and fairness, all of these are flawed in implementation. Communism has failed. Capitalism has failed. Anarchy has failed. Authoritarianism has failed.

We don't throw the baby out with the bath water, we take a look at the failures, take what works, fix whats broken. There is merit.

[HalflingSpergand]

Plus if we get in a war with china guess what, that meams that china is attempting to hold back the jews from hostile takeover. I reqlly like that china is kostly an ethnostate , much resoect china

[Cassawary]

I've seen you say some shit that I think must be trolling. But, this here is on the mark. I've seen much more compelling arguments suggesting that China is fascist than communist.


Really? I think it's an argument that relies on the ignorance of the reader to pass simple scrutiny, but I can't deboonk it.

[Mblake81]

Really? I think it's an argument that relies on the ignorance of the reader to pass simple scrutiny, but I can't deboonk it.

Nice catch there. You are correct, it is speaking ignorance. You would have to be interested enough to look at it, or have someone pay them to do it.

The real question is why are the mouth breathers (like me) not all that interested in learning about China. Then ask why are the forum intellectuals pressing the question.

For example I like cars. I am a brick head dude. Germany makes pretty good cars yet I know nothing about Germany to counter Domo when he gets in here looking to have fun. So what if any interest is there in China that would spurn a brick head to bother.

[magnetaress]

China is a big polluter, I could care less about the Uighars (in general) but maybe some of thier culture should be preserved in some historic sense and other people on this earth. I care a lot more about the earth it self. And some of the people, but not all.

I'm all for the rise of machines and the end of humans being in control over other humans as well. Why because all we do is abuse, lie to, and exploit each other. Even when we pretend we are 'doing things for other people'.

People are disconnected with reality and the physical sense of the world. Our minds are clusterfucks of EQ babes and wierd dreams of golden toilets.

[BarnabusCollins]

The people are cool, from anywhere. It's the power ups in high places to beware of.

[magnetaress]

The people are cool, from anywhere. It's the power ups in high places to beware of.

^^^^

I agree with this sentiment ppl are usually chill almost anywhere unless u flaunt/torment or try to change them, or in the case of higher up power ups, don't pay up.

[imperiouskitten]

i just like talking about words. if you assume it's because i'm a commie i promise you it's you with the chang chong obsession.

i dont want anything to do with china bug people or their trillion eyed insect queen

Just sayin, "communism" was some 1890 thing about a world worker revolution, "war communism"/"communism in one country" was the tortured stalinist version (resembling nazism) which was exported to china, which famously broke from Russia on commie dogma, and "authoritarian capitalism" is what's running there now i think, unless anyone wants to actually discuss that without having a panic attack. it tortures the word if you use communism to describe every single form of shitty government. it's just a take based on history, you guys are fucking ANXIOUS lol

I've known plenty of chinese from china, they are weird materialists with downcast eyes. I don't envy them their culture or state. I've been USA conservative on here for years if any of u could read or process anything beyond your identity blinker chips. Trump didn't even build the GD wall is why i don't like him. big promise u dumb fricks

lookout for red could be under youre bed! now clutch your pearls til you hurls! burn a witch, then it's back ....to twitch -_-

PS sorry for not identifying as a blockhead who is only allowed to talk about car engines lol. My daddy raised me to not believe "the man" or be intellectually submissive, even though he was a humble electrician. He didn't have a lot of ideas about the world, except he knew what he knew was BS. Good man. Can't be a cuck without betraying him.

[imperiouskitten]

The people are cool, from anywhere. It's the power ups in high places to beware of.

Idk, certain info matrices produce weird specimens en masse. Not that they are " fundamentally corrupt " just kinda beaten down in some ways. I find most Chinese Chines to be kinda creepazoid submissive. Ask one about Tianenmen, they pretend they don't know even in USA.

[Llanos]

Idk, certain info matrices produce weird specimens en masse. Not that they are " fundamentally corrupt " just kinda beaten down in some ways. I find most Chinese Chines to be kinda creepazoid submissive. Ask one about Tianenmen, they pretend they don't know even in USA.

We definitely agree on China. Here's a little anecdote from my time in China.

My company contracts us out to China to help out with their semiconductor industry. ( As a side note I refuse to go anymore based on their actions. )

While there I was asked to do something completely reckless and outside of safety norms. I refused. My local counterparts were terrified. They begged me to do it or just leave and they would do it. I refused again because I didn't want to set a precedent of this. It got taken up to Management.
The local management tried to bully me. They were furious I would even suggest disobeying. Threats of getting kicked out of the country and having my job etc. My HR department got involved and finally I agreed to let them do the work and I signed an agreement saying if anything negative happened I was free from all liability.

After it was done I went back to inspect for my own safety. My local counterpoint said he was glad I could stand up to them. He said and I quote, "In china we don't fix the problems, we fix the person."

That shows you why they are scared to even acknowledge things the CCP doesn't like. Nobody wants to get "fixed"

[FatherSioux]

We don't throw the baby out with the bath water, we take a look at the failures, take what works, fix what's broken. There is merit.

What exactly do you perceive as working in China that isn't working better in America/The West?

Pretty alarming that people here are so anti-American they are willing to ignore genocide and slave labor based on religious beliefs. I guess when you think all structures of hierarchy are based on oppression and power it's easy to dismiss any and all positives that come from these systems.

[Llanos]

What exactly do you perceive as working in China that isn't working better in America/The West?

Pretty alarming that people here are so anti-American they are willing to ignore genocide and slave labor based on religious beliefs. I guess when you think all structures of hierarchy are based on oppression and power it's easy to dismiss any and all positives that come from these systems.

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

― C. S. Lewis

These people legitimately believe they are right on a fundamental level.

[Jimjam]

What exactly do you perceive as working in China that isn't working better in America/The West?

Pretty alarming that people here are so anti-American they are willing to ignore genocide and slave labor based on religious beliefs. I guess when you think all structures of hierarchy are based on oppression and power it's easy to dismiss any and all positives that come from these systems.

Stop tilting windmills, Fathersyou.

You're straw manning me into a bogey man.

The fact you're asking what I perceive as working in China but not in The West evidences that I certainly haven't claimed things are working better in China than The West - I was pretty explicit that Communism failed - not that 2020 China is what would be classically considered communist.

[Cassawary]

Didn't the Uighurs do a terrorism?

[douglas1999]

China found a new and exciting way to be horrible basically; enjoy the spoils of capitalism with the top down authoritarian dictatorial control of centralized communism at the highest levels.

It really does make sense from a pure efficiency standpoint, which is why they are poised to overtake the US as the main global superpower. You just have to ignore any moral scruples you have to endorse such a system, which is ironic because woke lefty idiots are currently berating the US for being evil and bad. It would be great if gretta thunberg or whatever could say even one peep about the staggering pollution china produces, rather than berating western nations as the real problem. It's almost like she's a dumb kid with no perspective.

[Cassawary]

which is why they are poised to overtake the US as the main global superpower.

I lol'd

[FatherSioux]

Competitive capitalism, social programs, regulation, accountability, freedom and fairness, all of these are flawed in implementation. Communism has failed. Capitalism has failed. Anarchy has failed. Authoritarianism has failed.

We don't throw the baby out with the bath water, we take a look at the failures, take what works, fix whats broken. There is merit.

What did you mean then when you imply that some is good some is bad when you used the baby bathwater idiom. Because that's what it means, I assumed you were talking about China there.

What were you using to represent the baby, and what were you using as the bathwater? China and The West/US if you can please.

[Jimjam]

I can’t take the to make a decent reply now. I’ll try to get back to you tomorrow.

[Jibartik]

China has always operated to me as a corperation with a really good CEO.

And AFAIK when an awesome CEO is ever fired, the corporation tanks because it actually took a mind that knew how to spin all those plates they've been spinning with such success, so they could thread all the needles he's threading. And the replacement minds never can seem to catch up with that 1 lucky/brilliant one.

So what I figure is China has about as long as Xi is alive to be crushing through their amazing growth and when he gone, they will stammer and stumble and not have the amazing run they've had for the last 20 years.

But that's just my opinion.

[Jibartik]

also you guys should totally re-write this entire webpaeg because according to a select few in here its ALL WRONG

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism

How ironic, only the capitalists had the initiative to define communism on wikipedia, and of course it's full of their anti communist propaganda! lol

lol at all the lazy commies! Get to work and update that site!

[Thulian]

The people are cool, from anywhere. It's the power ups in high places to beware of.

There is alot of truth to this, i have worked with lots of chinese companies and am a bonded importer.

Chinese people believe in a few very strong set of values, hard work, give it your best and they are all about integrity and honor like the japanese.

Lots of people say chinese make cheap / shitty products, this is false. They make exactly what you want them to and price products accordingly.

[imperiouskitten]

Didn't the Uighurs do a terrorism?

the Wiggers did Eminem

pretty good imo. let em be

[Jibartik]

Everyone here watch american factory? That one is like live action Gung Ho.

[Thulian]

great special, i tried to get people to watch it, most people are just shit brained idiots watching shit like avengers and wonderwoman, get woke

[Mblake81]

Lots of people say chinese make cheap / shitty products, this is false. They make exactly what you want them to and price products accordingly.

They would make X product for X amount of dollars. Global markets. It's great for their working class. Banks in the USA bend over backwards to give student loans. Don't want to get left behind.

[Cassawary]

Good show. I think China is setting up for Africa to be their manufacturing vassal after they move up the development ladder. We'll be on Mars, dude. :cool:

[Mblake81]

Good show. I think China is setting up for Africa to be their manufacturing vassal after they move up the development ladder. We'll be on Mars, dude. :cool:

ill be dead or too old to care. pass

[Lune]

Chinese people believe in a few very strong set of values, hard work, give it your best and they are all about integrity and honor like the japanese.what you want them to and price products accordingly.

Embarrassingly wrong and dumb.

Cheating is a central tenet of Chinese culture. In fact, famously so.

[Cassawary]

ill be dead or too old to care. pass

https://i.imgur.com/WW9ZdH1_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[imperiouskitten]

i dont give myself license to think but im sure i hate u for a good reason!

[magnetaress]

Good show. I think China is setting up for Africa to be their manufacturing vassal after they move up the development ladder. We'll be on Mars, dude. :cool:

Hopefully. :cool:

[Gwaihir]

Good show. I think China is setting up for Africa to be their manufacturing vassal after they move up the development ladder. We'll be on Mars, dude. :cool:

Mars is a dead planet, devastated by cosmic Strife (War).

[feniin]

Mars is a dead planet, devastated by cosmic Strife (War).

Your brain is a dead organ, devastated by drugs (because poor).

[Thulian]

Does not matter if its dead we can generate everything except water. Remember the first alien movie? They talked about environment generators that take years to fix a planet

are we that far off?

i know most of you are still cavemen like feniin

[regandna]

Your brain is a dead organ, devastated by drugs (because poor).

your soul is a dead spirit, devastated by evil (because toxic)

[imperiouskitten]

that's like 95% of the board (said sadly)

[White_knight]

China already suggesting they need to patch the trade issues up with Aus.

They import almost 2x as much as we take from them, and it's all mostly raw materials they need.

Got em by the balls. Couple of cold nights coz they don't have our coal and bam...

[Cassawary]

China already suggesting they need to patch the trade issues up with Aus.

They import almost 2x as much as we take from them, and it's all mostly raw materials they need.

Got em by the balls. Couple of cold nights coz they don't have our coal and bam...

how's the ol digeridoo ya busted pluga?

[regandna]

What about China seeking to pay private parties to try and attack US troops in Afghanistan. Seems like we should just tell them “fuck you,” and not pay our debt at this point lol. We could reinvest that in ourselves.

[Swish]

The people are cool, from anywhere. It's the power ups in high places to beware of.

^^ Best comment.

[Tunabros]

tfw your home country is stuck with the "mainland" fml

[imperiouskitten]

What about China seeking to pay private parties to try and attack US troops in Afghanistan. Seems like we should just tell them “fuck you,” and not pay our debt at this point lol. We could reinvest that in ourselves.

it's unconfirmed inflammatory intelligence, but don't worry, we'll never pay that debt off although we do make our payments for now. there might just have to be a war to explain that away.

PS sorry, tunabros.

[nostalgiaquest]

it's unconfirmed inflammatory intelligence, but don't worry, we'll never pay that debt off although we do make our payments for now. there might just have to be a war to explain that away.

PS sorry, tunabros.

would be nice if the western world got together and collectively told them to clean their shit up or get fucked. They did just poison the entire world after all.

[regandna]

They did just poison the entire world after all.

[Thulian]

What about China seeking to pay private parties to try and attack US troops in Afghanistan. Seems like we should just tell them “fuck you,” and not pay our debt at this point lol. We could reinvest that in ourselves.

Fake news recycled by kids who stay up late playing video games

[regandna]

It is declassified information from the Trump government. Although the source of the information had not been vetted, the fact that Trump was briefed on it entails that there is at least a baseline possibility for it. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.axios.com/scoop-trump-administration-declassifies-unconfirmed-intel-on-chinese-bounties-84131ec6-c54f-4556-8d0f-547131a343ef.html

[Thulian]

unconfirmed intel, unconfirmed allegations, baseline possibility of fake news, no one cares either way

we dont belong in afghanistan anyway

[Cassawary]

it's not possible to refuse to "Pay china". and not because they're big scary bogeyman, it's just sovereign debt.

[Lune]

Fake news recycled by kids who stay up late playing video games

lol at this cuck shit. Major geopolitical rival putting bounties on US troops' heads and it looks bad for Trump because he didn't do shit about it, so fake news.

Could you be any more of a cuckold? I can see getting cucked by Africans, conservatives are into that, but it takes a super-cuck to get cucked by a chinaman

[imperiouskitten]

it's not possible to refuse to "Pay china". and not because they're big scary bogeyman, it's just sovereign debt.

could with a wartime treaty