Why can't red1.0 guilds like Apex and Perdition

[magnetaress]

Join forces every once in awhile and try to kill the stuff everyone cries about the most?

Do you think it's possible?

How long would it take to clear NTOV?

Why not save ur pvp battle for afterwards. IMO there should be like 10 guilds of like 15 ppl each with the pop we have and there should just be a real UN were several guilds share DKP for pve, that way everyone can have their cool cliques and guild tags and pvp titles and then promote server health by helpin each-other play EQ when the time comes to set asside differences and destroy the noble dragons of norrath who totally don't deserver to die just as pixel piñata, but thats what everyone wants, so who am I to argue?

Even better that UN could award individual playerds DKP based on untwinked alts parked in low lvl zones to fosters newb pvp battles. So like Rawhide geared pallies with dwarven ringmail and screaming maces and SBS in CB. Ya get dkp based on YT, 5 for dying, 15 for winning.

:o

(I wouldn't know I'm not in either guild nor good at this game or able to sustain an army of alts in rags also I don't want to ruin my NTOV faction).

[Krazy/sickpuppy]

Drugs

[Gustoo]

I agree if these guys wanted to make red 1.0 fun they could probably do so. But there’s a desire to make sure the server isn’t enjoyed because that’s just what staff wants us to do.

I had an idea for a short forum essay about the merits of eq pvp versus all the other pvp games that I was going to write for all the bluebies to build some hype. Next time I’m bored at work so probably Monday.

[magnetaress]

I feel like people are sheeping.

Bring back nihilum 2.0

It's funner to have a 'big bad' that actually does stuff and is crazy for the server 'health' than a bunch of angry nerd ragers following dreams of 'domination' and 'winning'.

Also gives the nerd ragers and underdogs a legitimate target other than 'just the other guys'. Red needs a 1%

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Because most nerds here have been around so long they either:

A) have had their account stripped or character/items deleted.
B) get mad over PvP.
C) have too much pride
D) some or all of the above

There’s a lot of short tempers and long memories on R99 which makes it hard for a number of people within the officer role of both guilds to do this.

Hope that helps

[White_knight]

Because when you attach your entire being to your r99 toon(s) it's hard for you to find the fun in EQ anymore so the only thing you have left is destorying other's fun.

PvP in EQ doesn't need to be so polarised as it was on Red99, it was this way because of crazy personalities that inhabited the positions of power...aka people who had the time to spend 18hrs a day playing.

I personally never understood why people couldn't just PvP over dragons and have fun and be gentlemen about it but after time you realise that there are people on this server that actually shake IRL if they die in PvP.

[El Camacho]

The people crying about PvE stuff not dying are almost exclusively people that don't play here or from other EMU's.

Stop taking what they say as representative of how the server actually is.


Please understand that most of the killable mobs that don't die right now, including some of the rooted dragons, is because there is a lot of pvp over those encounters.

It could even be argued that the PvP has been a more engaging as there isn't a shower of NTOV pixels reigning down primarily on one side.

[Thulian]

bring back the zerg for 2021

[Gustoo]

I mean there is competition. We got 50 dedicated dudes all the time. That’s a pretty good amount. If the server had more going on it would easily be 200s like it was for the first couple years. Whatever the next rule set is is going to be good.

[Dvusz]

Basically everyone in those 2 guilds is open to some collaboration except for like Tune and a couple others who try to emulate him (Concealed/Twainz etc)

[magnetaress]

Lots a deep thoughts here. This runs counter to the sentiment of my original post and point (that we should even try to work together sometimes).

The people crying about PvE stuff not dying are almost exclusively people that don't play here or from other EMU's.

Stop taking what they say as representative of how the server actually is.


Please understand that most of the killable mobs that don't die right now, including some of the rooted dragons, is because there is a lot of pvp over those encounters.

It could even be argued that the PvP has been a more engaging as there isn't a shower of NTOV pixels reigning down primarily on one side.

And I totally agree. I think it's cool the server is alive it has some dynamics blue, green, and by extension a lot of other emus can't have because we do have people willing to fight over dragons. I didn't think about it this way entirely before!

[magnetaress]

Also literally the only person I remember on this box is chewie and I would have given him a port anytime even if he was trying to kill me, I'm a big sucker lol. Like who remembers who they pvpd?? who's got that kinda memory?

[Twainz]

Basically everyone in those 2 guilds is open to some collaboration except for like Tune and a couple others who try to emulate him (Concealed/Twainz etc)

You talk about me a lot for not knowing me lol. Im friendly to everyone on this server and hold no ill will towards anyone. I enjoy pvping and shooting the shit. Sounds like you have been drinking the Swothe Juice a bit too much since you came back.

[Kief]

They are physically too fat to work together. They bounce off whenever in proximity.

BOOOOM SHAKA LAKA

[Tune]

If u want to joint kill stuff u never reached out

the maybe what 10 perdition that should show up to our 20-30 would only help us kill maybe king T. a mob we don't regularly kill

why would I agree to this when they normally want an unfair amount of loot

crawling north tov is still out of the question

[Baugi]

If u want to joint kill stuff u never reached out

Who would Apex like us to contact? We were in talks with Fuhror before you fired her for, in part, discussing joint raids with us. Before Fuhror, Concealed gave us a hard no. Before Concealed, you yourself told us you'd only agree to a joint raid if Apex received all loot. You recently removed several members and threatened to remove several more for attending our open raids. Perdition does our best to be reasonable and fair, but the lack of good faith here seems obvious.

why would I agree to this when they normally want an unfair amount of loot

Our baseline joint raid policy is that each guild gets to random on drops. The roll is proportionally weighted by how many members they've brought. Which part of that do you consider unfair?

crawling north tov is still out of the question

If NToV isn't dying because you refuse to kill it (or let anyone else kill it), it seems pretty dishonest to lobby the developers to change NToV back because it isn't dying.

[Gustoo]

Tune what are your terms? It seems obvious you two guilds should crawl NTOV together to kill some mobs that have been up for way too long.

Splitting the loot based on proportional number of level 58 + guys that attend seems fair.

What items from each kill that go to each mob as a part of that proportion should be randomed.

Each kill will not yield the right amount of items to give proportional loot, therefore, there will be another /random in order to see who gets the favorable proportion on the present kill, and who gets the favorable proportion on the next kill.

The winner of the /random can choose if they get more loot now, or more loot later. Its a calculated risk if you know the next mob is going to have better stuff (or hope it does) but there is also the possibility of wiping to the next mob so you might be better with a bird in the hand.

If the combined raid fails to achieve its goal it is important to note that both guilds are disgraced and neither guild can shuck the blame on the other. Both failed.

Be men and kill dragons together.


Also : don't be cowards and be afraid to let the other guild get some decent items and "gain power" or anything like that. Both of you know that the fervent mentally damaging commitment of each guilds leader has a massively more significant impact on the success of the guild than any one particular item on any one particular player. Don't be psychopaths. Both of you are going to get proportional upgrade in loot.

Or not I dunno. I want to see something change on red.

[Imago]

Crawling NTOV needs more people than Apex/Perd can field in a night unless they get some vets in on it, and the vets will likely not respect the (tenuous) alliance in place and do something stupid and end the show before it starts.

[Thulian]

just need the ch macro and a few clr and you are set

[Gustoo]

I will log on to hit complete hero macro.

Will also need keyed. LOL

I do have a trak tooth though.

[Uuruk]

OP is a dumbass playing a dead server.

[magnetaress]

OP is a dumbass playing a dead server.

oh hey, long time no see, hope you are fairing well, what servers are you playing on? games? got anything good going?

xp boost is how you kill the server.

I agree, kinda think ppl took advantage of this to 'win'.

[silverknight2003]

op hasnt shot itself yet?

[magnetaress]

op hasnt shot itself yet?

Let's not talk about suicide in an online video game forum if we can avoid it please. Other people do lurk here. Have some common decency. :cool:

[silo32]

Neither guild are red 1.0

Kek