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eqravenprince
12-15-2020, 03:05 PM
I don't have any desire to kill other players or be killed by other players. So why come here besides the appeal of low population which is nice sometimes.

Tunabros
12-15-2020, 03:55 PM
nope need new red asap

chevy79bu
12-15-2020, 04:18 PM
I don't have any desire to kill other players or be killed by other players. So why come here besides the appeal of low population which is nice sometimes.

No reason to convince you, if pvp is just 100% not your thing the a pvp server will not be your thing. At some point on Red pvp will be something you will face. You will either learn how to be effective at pvp and defend yourself or you will have to learn how to evade people and run away. Either way pvp will be in your future on Red...

loramin
12-15-2020, 04:19 PM
They get a (significant, last I heard) grouping XP bonus.

Gustoo
12-15-2020, 04:49 PM
If you don't want to PVP then I would play on blue.

In PVP you should be aware of your surroundings and will look at items an gear differently. That is what makes PVP a completely different, and better game.

But if you don't want to do that, I would suggest that you don't waste your time.

There are a lot of low pop servers in EQ emulator that don't make you deal with PVP. Really if you aren't curious about pvp at all or have any desire to figure it out or try it to see if you like it, then forget it.

Class decision
Race decision
Gear choices
leveling areas

All of these are totally different when PVP threat exists.

Swish
12-15-2020, 04:57 PM
I don't have any desire to kill other players or be killed by other players. So why come here besides the appeal of low population which is nice sometimes.

It's the best community of the 3 servers.

Gustoo
12-15-2020, 05:20 PM
I guess the community is a solid selling point. That is a little bit scary.

Its way better no doubt there.

Tunabros
12-15-2020, 05:20 PM
I guess the community is a solid selling point. That is a little bit scary.

Its way better no doubt there.

could use like 50+ more active players though than it will solid gold

haven't seen red with 100+ population in a while

Gustoo
12-15-2020, 05:29 PM
Yeah if it was flat lined at 100 pop every day, it would be pretty amazing. I really want a fresh server but if I was playing I would be playing current red and loving it vs any other server by a long shot.

P99 rules. Staff rules at least in the sense that these servers are the best in the business. I wish they had someone that posted on these forums and just said "we hear you" over an over again. I just want some affirmation.

Tassador
12-15-2020, 06:44 PM
I don’t like pvp should I join a pvp server? Well the answer is pretty obviously no but in your case if you’re seeking low pop and no pvp red might be the place man.

Hope this helps. Arrivederci

magnetaress
12-15-2020, 07:03 PM
You will just end up PvPing via FTE and camp dispute train petition questing on blue.

Skip that step, build a main on red, use that main to build alts and help free others to adventure on red by running tours through lguk.

Ret.SaxonAlex
12-15-2020, 07:13 PM
Though life may make this next phrase come back around to be annoying to me later. Once you stop caring if you die to someone on a game it is very freeing. I am sure there will always be some amount of me having envy for being a bad pvper but I think to some degree, hopefully, forever, it wont bother me so much. I know this is blasphemy to EQ but this game really is just a nerdy game for people pretending to be elves. But if we didn't pretend to be elves, (or dwarves.) then all nerds would be is Darth Vader. Though darth vader is definitely cool, maybe we need to be nerdy elves, for life to be balanced. I feel when I play EQ with pvp, items have more feel to them and you have a higher sense of accomplishment.

magnetaress
12-15-2020, 07:26 PM
You can always be a kind elf. Red needs those. Blue doesn't. Plenty of sith lords and mace questers on blue green.

Red is where genuine care and kindness matter. Not where it's arbitrarily mandatory.

dennardscott86
12-15-2020, 07:27 PM
The Red server is *checks notes* Dead.... Its Dead go to Blue.

Gustoo
12-15-2020, 07:36 PM
Though life may make this next phrase come back around to be annoying to me later. Once you stop caring if you die to someone on a game it is very freeing. I am sure there will always be some amount of me having envy for being a bad pvper but I think to some degree, hopefully, forever, it wont bother me so much. I know this is blasphemy to EQ but this game really is just a nerdy game for people pretending to be elves. But if we didn't pretend to be elves, (or dwarves.) then all nerds would be is Darth Vader. Though darth vader is definitely cool, maybe we need to be nerdy elves, for life to be balanced. I feel when I play EQ with pvp, items have more feel to them and you have a higher sense of accomplishment.

I came to red99 looking to play rallos zek style. On rallos zek, there were anti PK's, and there were PK's. Anti PK's were most of the server, and they frowned upon cold blooded murder. I liked doing low level PVP stuff when orcs were still a threat. Flowers of happiness style and FOH wasn't all about swamp legends it was a guild any bad guy could get into if they chose to be in the most hated guild on the server, being FOH tagged on rallos meant you were KOS to everyone else on the entire server because you were a known PK scumbag.

On Red99, it turned out everyone came over with way POST 1999 game ethics and came to "win" not to quest. They played like it was WOW or whatever, or maybe they were all just dedicated PK guys looking to crush it the old way. Either way there was no organic Anti PK / PK environment it was just pretty hateful with EXP loss on PVP death , no penalty for the PK player since he couldn't lose any items and wasn't trying to level up EXP so no loss there.

In response I just decided to be a good guy because trying to find the 1 or 2 people trying to level up on red99 and murder them when they were 10% HP due to fighting a mob just isn't the same when you're talking about limited amount of new players that just won't come back.

I dunno. Plus I chose a cleric and we aren't that great at murder.

Red99 is the best. All p99 servers have full blown psychopaths but server rulesets wise and petition quest wise, red99 is way better.

Ret.SaxonAlex
12-15-2020, 07:49 PM
I had no problem on red and didn't see any imbalance. I didn't do much high level stuff though. I think EQ in this form may have an easy imbalance at high level. As many have said though, this game was not designed to be a pvp game. I just quit playing because I felt pressure people were prying into my life and telling people I live in a fake dimension or existence is dangerous enough. People could lock a person up forever for that. I'm sure there is not much worse of a life, than being a "normal" person and being locked up forever in a non-real existence.

Gustoo
12-15-2020, 07:53 PM
Hey Ret not sure what you're describing but yes at high level the balance comes from groups. Casters are pretty weak on their own when everyone has lots of resist gear.

As far as playing everquest and maintaining real life sanity, yeah you need to watch it. Its easy to put too many hours in and stop wanting to play real life where you don't have a fiery sword waiting for you. Gotta find that balance. EQ is the kind of thing that can take you off the balance. They didn't call it evercrack for nothing. Thats the other reason I decided to be a good guy here, I feel bad for my fellow victims of the funnest game ever.

Ret.SaxonAlex
12-15-2020, 08:21 PM
On another subject, its annoying when I've been told to be a kinder person, when I wasn't meaning to not be kind, (And probably wasn't being not kind.) I was just starved. I call it "dead face", when your eyes look like, "How can you do this to me?" and you have a frown. It looks like your mad. Just another flaw in reality to keep evil people evil. Its also easier to look more on the mad side of dead face than on the depressed side of dead face, incase the depression police come and lock a person up forever.

In a fake dimension or existence its important to look like normal worker at work. So I've tried to do that. The majority of the time I was not being rude or not kind. I just looked that way.

Tunabros
12-15-2020, 08:30 PM
The Red server is *checks notes* Dead.... Its Dead go to Blue.

Gustoo
12-15-2020, 08:31 PM
Yeah I have a buddy that has that problem. Thats more of a problem with the people that are demanding the fake smiles than the person who doesn't do the fake smiles.

People that are used to getting treated like they are great (rich people) are particularly bothered by an apathetic face because they are afraid to let it be a reflection of their own greatness. So they need to make sure that you know that it is your problem, so they tell you.

Best place is a line cook at a high volume restaurant because no one can keep up with your skillz and you can pretty much deadface all day and even make fun of the waiters for being too slow. 2nd hand experience on this one.

What is important is actually cultivating empathy and love for others. It takes work. Even things you are "good" at aren't effortless. Eventually you get good at doing the hard work.

Empathy is magical because it heals you while you heal or help someone else. Its difficult to understand but it is no joke. I love talking about empathy in a section of a message board that specifically allows for the murder of other players.

I'm thinking I gotta be a paladin next play through so I can be the corniest stupid good guy there ever was.

magnetaress
12-16-2020, 01:33 PM
Just remember if you quit red to get free pixels and uninterrupted powerlevels and seb/vp/vt key camps via ur 'wife aka box' on blue or RoZ, you lost red.

strongNpretty
12-16-2020, 01:55 PM
I don't have any desire to kill other players or be killed by other players. So why come here besides the appeal of low population which is nice sometimes.

Hmmm.. I'm a blue player since 2016.. Had a small adventure on green.. Ultimately accepted my retirement with the red server.. I don't have time to raid, and at this point in my life, i'm not suddenly gonna stumble upon more gaming hours in my life...

I finished most my childhood dreams on blue. Got an epic, got a toon to 60, made some twinks, yada yada.. Then i moved onto green, where i reached that level 40 bottleneck during the early days, and couldn't get a group for the life of me, and when i did, i'd have like an hour before having to log... Found myself getting discouraged and a little stressed at all my friends adventuring for hours without me :(

Anyways, decided red was my last shot to keep playing. And it was the answer. I get to finish seeing what i want to see, and adventuring where i want to adventure.. I get to camp mobs i could only dream of, and i enjoy this stress free server.

I didn't join for PVP, but having now been here for months, I do see their ways.. I see how fucking cool pvp'n over mobs or camps is vs. Petitioning on blue or green... Duke it out vs. submitting a claim to customer service? Hands down the better way to handle things. The way PVP changes your outlook.. Simple things u take advantage of on blue or green, are bad habits on red. You gear up differently. You find use for spells you dont use on blue or green often. You find yourself thinking differently- Can i trust this guy porting me. Can i trust these folks i just randomly grouped with that aren't in my guild? Who is this Weren guy who just entered Oasis? SHould i be concerned?

Try this server cause PVP is part of Everquest and you should experience everything everquest! Try this server to kill another player.. Play this server for PVE. Any reason you play on this server, is healthy for this server.. You just become fun for somebody who does enjoy PVP.

Ogrork
12-16-2020, 02:05 PM
Low population - camps are generally open
Community - as toxic as red is, it’s nowhere near as toxic as blue or green.
PvP - this isn’t as much as hunting others down or being hunted down. It just adds an extra level of risk. Without risk you don’t have rewards. Small rewards feel much more grand when you navigate through more risk. It’s why we play classic eq over live. The risk of losing exp, corpse, etc is what makes this game much more enticing. And pvp adds that extra level of risk.

strongNpretty
12-16-2020, 02:20 PM
Low population - camps are generally open
Community - as toxic as red is, it’s nowhere near as toxic as blue or green.
PvP - this isn’t as much as hunting others down or being hunted down. It just adds an extra level of risk. Without risk you don’t have rewards. Small rewards feel much more grand when you navigate through more risk. It’s why we play classic eq over live. The risk of losing exp, corpse, etc is what makes this game much more enticing. And pvp adds that extra level of risk.

Seriously it cant be said enough. The toxicity IN GAME seems almost non existent... It's these forum personalities that do a number on folks interested.. So many of the folks currently on and having a good time have come from one of the PVE servers..

Blah blah blah, just join sanctuary and you'll feel right at home here if you're a Blue/Green player... Warm up to the PVP part at your own pace.

And don't forget global /ooc.. It's a huge huge plus.. I can spend 3 hours in Dreadlands on blue and not hear from a single soul.. But at least on red, there is chatter no matter how empty the zone you're in is.. And the low pop kinda makes me feel closer to the community to be honest.. I recognize so many names everyday i login.

Kich867
12-16-2020, 02:20 PM
Low population - camps are generally open
Community - as toxic as red is, it’s nowhere near as toxic as blue or green.
PvP - this isn’t as much as hunting others down or being hunted down. It just adds an extra level of risk. Without risk you don’t have rewards. Small rewards feel much more grand when you navigate through more risk. It’s why we play classic eq over live. The risk of losing exp, corpse, etc is what makes this game much more enticing. And pvp adds that extra level of risk.

I'd also add that, from a community perspective, Red actually often feels like more people are playing because of global OOC. For OP--I was also someone that had very little interest in PVP, the organized PVP I participated in was fun, but honestly, if you don't want to PVP, you can mostly avoid it.

The XP is so fast you can go to random places and level easily, there's often leveling guilds you can quickly form groups in, it's not nearly as bad as people on blue make it out to be.

It always felt like something big was going on somewhere.

Tassador
12-16-2020, 02:20 PM
Every time strong posts I crack up. He finished his childhood dreams of getting a 60 with an epic.

#iphonecoffeestains

#wipeitclean

strongNpretty
12-16-2020, 02:22 PM
Every time strong posts I crack up. He finished his childhood dreams of getting a 60 with an epic.

#iphonecoffeestains

#wipeitclean

Just login already man.. Quit lurking. It's creepy how you show up but you don't even play the game..

magnetaress
12-16-2020, 02:26 PM
Red99 is still up, if you can't bring yourself to log in without a box, that's not our problem, but yours )

Tassador
12-16-2020, 02:31 PM
Most people who posts here don’t really play. It’s creepy that your childhood dreams was to level a lvl 60 character and receive pixels (epic).

I hope you’re just joking around about that.

strongNpretty
12-16-2020, 02:54 PM
Most people who posts here don’t really play. It’s creepy that your childhood dreams was to level a lvl 60 character and receive pixels (epic).

I hope you’re just joking around about that.

As a 14 year old kid when I got my hands on everquest, yes it was a goal to get to 60 and an epic as a child.. I did not meet these goals, or come anywhere close. So yes as an adult playing classic everquest in 2016-2020, it was a goal to complete that childhood mission by getting a toon to 60 and an epic..

Sorry you played everquest with really cool reasons??

Gustoo
12-16-2020, 02:56 PM
When I played in 1999 I didn't even think hitting level 50 was humanly possible. When kunark bumped it to 60, the one person I knew in real life (once removed actually) who had a level 50 was really bummed about how he was going to have to grind HARD to hit max level again.

magnetaress
12-16-2020, 03:56 PM
Almost nothing stopping u from getting an epic on red, except maybe finding a magi staff for sale in that case. Good reason to play.

Also, I hit 60 on two characters briefly, and 85 on one. I am still sub 60 on 4 more characters. That my necro can go get killed at frenzy in guk if I desire it is pretty cool considering.

I hit a big milestone this year of giving another wizard the runes for their quad kiting spells. That's pretty huge.

Tassador
12-16-2020, 04:47 PM
As a 14 year old kid when I got my hands on everquest, yes it was a goal to get to 60 and an epic as a child.. I did not meet these goals, or come anywhere close. So yes as an adult playing classic everquest in 2016-2020, it was a goal to complete that childhood mission by getting a toon to 60 and an epic..

Sorry you played everquest with really cool reasons??

Yep to kill players in pvp not fantasize about elves and goblins while collecting pixels. You had eq goals which is already a fundamental issue with your health and well being. I’d consider at least talking to someone professional about your childhood missions. Doesn’t hurt for professional feedback.

magnetaress
12-16-2020, 04:48 PM
You obviously escaped unscathed Tassadorsan.

Gustoo
12-16-2020, 04:49 PM
Tassador is just ruffling feathers 9/10 p99 players were scrubs in 2000 and want to fulfill their dreams. I have yet to see an ascending dawn player from rallos zek on these forums, because those guys all beat the game mercilessly and aren't coming back, or they are still on live with too much of a pixel hoard to walk away from.

strongNpretty
12-16-2020, 04:49 PM
Yep to kill players in pvp not fantasize about elves and goblins while collecting pixels. You had eq goals which is already a fundamental issue with your health and well being. I’d consider at least talking to someone professional about your childhood missions. Doesn’t hurt for professional feedback.

Ok little one.. You've reached maximum internet time for 1 day. Quit bein a cunt just to be a cunt.

Tassador
12-16-2020, 10:18 PM
Ok little one.. You've reached maximum internet time for 1 day. Quit bein a cunt just to be a cunt.

Hey this might be my childhood mission. Don’t hate on it lol..