Capitalism breeds innovation

[Cassawary]

Workers riot at Wistron iPhone plant in India over shorted pay (https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/12/12/worker-violence-at-wistron-iphone-plant-in-india-caused-by-low-pay-claims)

Sources told the report the unrest was caused through the workers not receiving the full pay they were told they would be receiving at the time of joining the company. One staff member alleged an engineering graduate was promised Rs 21,000 ($285) per month, but instead had Rs 16,000 ($217) at first, which then reduced down to Rs 12,000 ($163) in the last three months.

Other employees allegedly had it worse, with one non-engineering graduate's salary cut down to Rs 8,000 ($108), and some claiming to have been paid as little as Rs 500 ($6.78). The bad sentiment grew throughout the shift, erupting in violence by the early hours of the morning.

:p

[imperiouskitten]

"We must pass the Great Filter" -elon musk

[douglas1999]

It literally does though, bad india thing notwithstanding.

And in any case, the alternatives certainly don't. See: all of world history

[indiscriminate_hater]

Universal income for all, incentives for none

[Topgunben]

We should do what Venezuela does. We will all lose weight while we are at it.

[Cassawary]

It literally does though, bad india notwithstanding

Explain?

[HalflingSpergand]

Captivity breeds ignorance

[Lune]

Never attribute to capitalism what should be attributed to culture.

Innovation would come from the West whether we were fully automated luxury gay space communism or 22 y/o young college Republican virgin who just read The Fountainhead for the first time anarcho-libertarianism.

Valuation of educational attainment, work ethic, ambition, social cohesion, civic duty, respect for the rule of law; it all comes from the set of behaviors, beliefs, and cognitions that are passed down through families and communities & amplified and modulated by national zeitgeist and a host of other factors. American ingenuity comes from our unique blend of individualism and Protestant ethic. Plus, you would have to be quite ignorant to even truly consider us capitalist (or Venezuela socialist, lol)-- corporations and oligarchs have always pulled the levers of our government and economy to minimize competition (just as they do in any mixed market system, but that's another discussion). This is also why unchecked immigration and multiculturalism without assimilation are so harmful, as the Dutch, Swedes, French, British, Belgians, Germans, and others have found.

The only true resource any country ever really has are its people.

[Gwaihir]

Never attribute to capitalism what should be attributed to culture.

Innovation would come from the West whether we were fully automated luxury gay space communism or 22 y/o young college Republican virgin who just read The Fountainhead for the first time anarcho-libertarianism.

Valuation of educational attainment, work ethic, ambition, social cohesion, civic duty, respect for the rule of law; it all comes from the set of behaviors, beliefs, and cognitions that are passed down through families and communities & amplified and modulated by national zeitgeist and a host of other factors. American ingenuity comes from our unique blend of individualism and Protestant ethic. Plus, you would have to be quite ignorant to even truly consider us capitalist (or Venezuela socialist, lol)-- corporations and oligarchs have always pulled the levers of our government and economy to minimize competition (just as they do in any mixed market system, but that's another discussion). This is also why unchecked immigration and multiculturalism without assimilation are so harmful, as the Dutch, Swedes, French, British, Belgians, Germans, and others have found.

The only true resource any country ever really has is its people.
Amen brother
National
Socialism
It is

[magnetaress]

R.I.P. Crystal Pepsi and Jolt Cola.

People are no longer civil or civically minded. You will not see real innovation for another 100 years from American Corporations as the RnD money and science is going outside of the country. And off world.

Expect more weird porn and a spiral of copywrite, trademark warfare, and lawyer questing as the country falls.

Individuals and small collectives will try to splinter away and form their own communities and farming agriculturals around strange cults in very select cases, but these will not be popularized on the news. And most will be raided by big Weed.

https://i.imgur.com/5ktD7YC.gif

[Jibartik]

I always found that the most innovation tends to always come from whoever is exploring and colonizing the New World and that goes all the way back to 10,000 BC to today.

Capitalism is irrelevant the human desire to expand, progress, and grow is what makes innovation happen.

That’s just genetic.

Things will get better once we have a colony on Mars that people can wild west and explore and conquer and then America can become the next UK.

Just sitting here with our guns like they sit there with their tea.

[magnetaress]

https://i.imgur.com/HkN8jQn.gif

@op, capitalism @ ANY price or cost is worthless.

[Topgunben]

The alternatives to capitalism are scary. Honestly man, if my life would I’m price under another system, I would give it some thought.

[magnetaress]

The problem isn't capitalism, the problem is the governments, police, and militaries, protecting failed businesses, industries, real-estate-moguls.

The people need to rise up, reformat the drive, and start building new farms with new tech. And cleaning up the mess.

[Topgunben]

The problem isn't capitalism, the problem is the governments, police, and militaries, protecting failed businesses, industries, real-estate-moguls.

The people need to rise up, reformat the drive, and start building new farms with new tech.

Ya, I agree. How many laws are on the books that don’t need to be? Why is our tax code so complex? Why do we allow the government to pick winners and losers? I blame republicans equally with democrats for the issues we have

I prefer true capitalism with true libertarianism.

[magnetaress]

Ya, I agree. How many laws are on the books that don’t need to be? Why is our tax code so complex? Why do we allow the government to pick winners and losers? I blame republicans equally with democrats for the issues we have

I prefer true capitalism with true libertarianism.

Yep, tbh, I blame the dems more. I see more waste and harm in 'social programs' and 'safety regulations'. I should have probably left to Texas and become a janitor at a whiskey stillery, but I failed myself and my country because I kinda am an idiot. People need to do stuff for themselves, even if it's just grow orgeno instead of ordering pizza online.

But there seems to be no hope now. But that's just me, here's to hoping the generation who lives through the next 10 years does something right for a change.

I should shut up.

[BarnabusCollins]

Capitalism breeds corruption, as does ANY form of government. WHY DO YOU NEED ME TO TELL YOU THIS.

[Thulian]

Anyone remember the first iphone factory in china that had to install nets around it because 14 people jumped in 1 month?

Just so spoiled worthless american kids can have i phones? Lol : )

[magnetaress]

#notmyproblem

but I don't own an iphone

[Wrekt]

you're all poor and you're simping for people who keep you poor while they snort coke off stripper titties on their 50th yacht. it's the highest stage of cringe.

[magnetaress]

I've smelled stripper titties up close. So glad I'm passed that lol.

[Gravydoo II]

Steal all the equipment, open a new factory run by the workers.

[loramin]

I have a news flash for some in this thread: you all love socialism (some of the time)! Don't believe me?

When your house is burning down, do you want the fire department to show up and say "well your house is worth $300k ... so for a mere 20%, just $60k, we'll save your house!" Because that's how a capitalist fire department works. Believe it or not, you like having a socialist fire department.

When someone breaks into your house, do you want the cops to show up and say "sorry we can't help: you didn't pay for police protection this month?" Because that's a capitalist police department works; you like the socialist kind.

We could keep going with everything else the government does for you: roads, military defense, food safety, ensuring anyone can get treated at ERs, etc.

Ultimately it's not "capitalism/socialism is good/bad" ... it's "capitalism/socialism is a better/worse system for handling ______". And in truth, capitalism is a lot better, for a lot of systems ... but certainly not all.

[magnetaress]

https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS20/history.html

[BarnabusCollins]

The best rpg of all time came from the West - Japan. Yep, Japan is the West. China = the East.

[Jimjam]

Explain?

All the great innovations of the past 60 years, things from NASA, the internet, medical RND, sat nav, etc come exclusively from the investment of private capital.

[bomaroast]

Plastic has been such a great innovation, and employed so effectively. Great job capitalism!

It sure was worth turning the planet into venus 2.0 in exchange for being able to use the internet for a few years.

[magnetaress]

Thought NASA was taxpayer money. So was DARPA. And CERN. Albiet I think CERN searches out private grants now.

[loramin]

Thought NASA was taxpayer money. So was DARPA. And CERN. Albiet I think CERN searches out private grants now.

I think there was an implied "/sarcasm" on Jimjam's post ;)

[magnetaress]

I think there was an implied "/sarcasm" on Jimjam's post ;)

I'm literally becoming to stupid to remember anything ;( :o :eek: :mad: :(

thx tho

;) :) :D

[imperiouskitten]

you're all poor and you're simping for people who keep you poor while they snort coke off stripper titties on their 50th yacht. it's the highest stage of cringe.

cucks will be cucks

once you meet enough rich ppl you realize all that money (connected with zero physical danger, anyway) turns people into Michael Bloombergs. it's quite corrosive and vERY cringe

[Jibartik]

America is collapsing at like 4x the rate of any other world empire though, is it really the best system? lol

[imperiouskitten]

America is collapsing at like 4x the rate of any other world empire though, is it really the best system? lol

we have to be the worst quality most retarded, overfed, lazy human beings in world history. ppl have never been so disconnected from everything. u could convince them the sun rises in the west considering they couldnt motivate themselves to wake up early and debunk it. so it's not super surprising

[magnetaress]

we have to be the worst quality most retarded, overfed, lazy human beings in world history. ppl have never been so disconnected from everything. u could convince them the sun rises in the west considering they couldnt motivate themselves to wake up early and debunk it. so it's not super surprising

:o

[BiG SiP]

:p

[Danth]

Lulz: That bunch in your picture should be terrified of communism except they never bothered opening up their history books to learn about things like who the Khmer Rouge liked liquidating. The solid red flag is not simply a nice color.

Danth

[imperiouskitten]

Lulz: That bunch in your picture should be terrified of communism except they never bothered opening up their history books to learn about things like who the Khmer Rouge liked liquidating. The solid red flag is not simply a nice color.

Danth

i'm pretty sure there's not 1 trans girl communist on this board, except for that one i cant mention lest i get stalked and shrieked at

even our furry nexii isn't I don't think

in fact, stats (real data, not accumulated YouTube wisdom) show that trans females tend to be more conservative than average!

makes ya think !

nevertheless, you are arguably not wrong. it's ppl who look like that who tend to be deranged leftists, indeed. we don't look like that at all :p for instance im tall, slender, redhead, very passing fashion model look in pretty expensive clothes tbh and i get flirted with by eeeeveryone (unless i'm with my 6'4", muscular, dangerous lookin sadist bf then they look down).

Look to FTMs and people who identify with "dyke" culture to find the deranged brain cancer, tbh. The only reason I am repeatedly called a "leftist" on this board is because I jettisoned hope in Trump when he couldn't even deliver on The Wall. What was this post about again?

[Jibartik]

Every empire on earth has minted coins since at least 600 BC as an exchange for goods and services but america #1 yee haw

:o

[douglas1999]

Capitalism and free markets are what have enabled the poor of the world to become less poor at worst, and to prosper exponentially at best. If you can't understand this and get so immediately enamored with cool hippie word salads about the evil capitalist overlords you need to read more books.

Modern day China, which is often cited as a global superpower, is a small centralized communist authoritarian regime built upon what is otherwise a purely capitalistic society; they kind of get the best of both worlds in that sense: Dictatorial control of your thoughts from the top down, and also access to global markets from sheer tyranny of will. And a huge portion of that blame falls not just on America, but on any other nation that does business with them.

Your iphone doesn't *have* to be made in china, it's simply cheaper for apple to manufacture them there because of the hellishly ruthless government calling the shots with regard to labor practices. Apple could easily manufacture iphones in the united states, they would just cost you a bit more and they would make a bit less. The upside? Human beings who are for most out of sight and out of mind are not subjected to horrifyingly awful and unrelenting working conditions. This is why american capitalism is *good*, not bad, and frankly why trump's approach to chinese trade interests makes sense. The mcdonalds employee in america enjoys a higher quality of life and a higher net income than the apple employee of china.

[Mblake81]

Your iphone doesn't *have* to be made in china, it's simply cheaper for apple to manufacture them there because of the hellishly ruthless government calling the shots with regard to labor practices. Apple could easily manufacture iphones in the united states, they would just cost you a bit more and they would make a bit less. The upside? Human beings who are for most out of sight and out of mind are not subjected to horrifyingly awful and unrelenting working conditions. This is why american capitalism is *good*, not bad, and frankly why trump's approach to chinese trade interests makes sense. The mcdonalds employee in america enjoys a higher quality of life and a higher net income than the apple employee of china.

It's capitalism minus Christianity. Jim Rogers prepared his family to move to China back around the time Obama was first getting into office. Perhaps the money was heading that way, what better for a money person than to be doing business in a place where people are valueless. Understand that isn't me saying Asian people are not worth anything, that is saying a Religion here keeps parts of it in check. The USA is big on checks and balances.

[Lune]

Capitalism and free markets are what have enabled the poor of the world to become less poor at worst, and to prosper exponentially at best. If you can't understand this and get so immediately enamored with cool hippie word salads about the evil capitalist overlords you need to read more books.

Modern day China, which is often cited as a global superpower, is a small centralized communist authoritarian regime built upon what is otherwise a purely capitalistic society; they kind of get the best of both worlds in that sense: Dictatorial control of your thoughts from the top down, and also access to global markets from sheer tyranny of will. And a huge portion of that blame falls not just on America, but on any other nation that does business with them.

Your iphone doesn't *have* to be made in china, it's simply cheaper for apple to manufacture them there because of the hellishly ruthless government calling the shots with regard to labor practices. Apple could easily manufacture iphones in the united states, they would just cost you a bit more and they would make a bit less. The upside? Human beings who are for most out of sight and out of mind are not subjected to horrifyingly awful and unrelenting working conditions. This is why american capitalism is *good*, not bad, and frankly why trump's approach to chinese trade interests makes sense. The mcdonalds employee in america enjoys a higher quality of life and a higher net income than the apple employee of china.

God it must be nice to have such a simplistic worldview. You think our quality of life came from capitalism? We aren't even fucking capitalist, we are a mixed market, just like everyone else. Our standard of living is higher because we are a wealthier nation. We are a wealthy nation because of strong civic & cultural traits, all the events over the last 500 years, imperialism, and a combination of state interventionist economics and public institutions that protect our quality of life. We are free market to the extent that private parties are free to exchange goods and services and people can establish free enterprise, but beyond that we have always been interventionist, with the government selectively cultivating, protecting, and expanding certain industries through laws. Sometimes because of corruption, sometimes because of public will.

https://i.imgur.com/NQ4vmu3.jpg

Do you know what this is? Thousands of people marching for an 8 hour work day in 1900. Motivated by socialist ideas, people like this helped us transition from Chinese capitalism and syndicalism to the mixed market we have today (which has been terribly eroded since the 50's back in the direction of late 1800's peasanthood, but I digress). Before Marx and socialism there was no 8 hour work day, there was no vacation, there was no occupational safety, there was no 40 hour week, there was no minimum wage, there was no pension or retirement. Workers fought tooth and nail for each one of these things for decades before you were born with it, and people like you have been raised so misinformed as to want to throw it away for "muh capitalism".

[douglas1999]

God it must be nice to have such a simplistic worldview. You think our quality of life came from capitalism? We aren't even fucking capitalist, we are a mixed market, just like everyone else. Our standard of living is higher because we are a wealthier nation. We are a wealthy nation because of strong civic & cultural traits, all the events over the last 500 years, imperialism, and a combination of state interventionist economics and public institutions that protect our quality of life. We are free market to the extent that private parties are free to exchange goods and services and people can establish free enterprise, but beyond that we have always been interventionist, with the government selectively cultivating, protecting, and expanding certain industries through laws. Sometimes because of corruption, sometimes because of public will.

https://i.imgur.com/NQ4vmu3.jpg

Do you know what this is? Thousands of people marching for an 8 hour work day in 1900. Motivated by socialist ideas, people like this helped us transition from Chinese capitalism and syndicalism to the mixed market we have today (which has been terribly eroded since the 50's back in the direction of late 1800's peasanthood, but I digress). Before Marx and socialism there was no 8 hour work day, there was no vacation, there was no occupational safety, there was no 40 hour week, there was no minimum wage, there was no pension or retirement. Workers fought tooth and nail for each one of these things for decades before you were born with it, and people like you have been raised so misinformed as to want to throw it away for "muh capitalism".

Okay thanks for the dissertation comrade. Yes I know we are mixed market. Yes I agree some regulations are important. Still 90% of what is good about any developed nation can be attributed to capitalism, not socialism or marxism or communism.

Fix what is broken within capitalism, since it's the best system yet devised for generating and dispersing wealth. Or continue larping as a french revolutionary cause it's cool and hipstery.

[Gwaihir]

God it must be nice to have such a simplistic worldview. You think our quality of life came from capitalism? We aren't even fucking capitalist, we are a mixed market, just like everyone else. Our standard of living is higher because we are a wealthier nation. We are a wealthy nation because of strong civic & cultural traits, all the events over the last 500 years, imperialism, and a combination of state interventionist economics and public institutions that protect our quality of life. We are free market to the extent that private parties are free to exchange goods and services and people can establish free enterprise, but beyond that we have always been interventionist, with the government selectively cultivating, protecting, and expanding certain industries through laws. Sometimes because of corruption, sometimes because of public will.

https://i.imgur.com/NQ4vmu3.jpg

Do you know what this is? Thousands of people marching for an 8 hour work day in 1900. Motivated by socialist ideas, people like this helped us transition from Chinese capitalism and syndicalism to the mixed market we have today (which has been terribly eroded since the 50's back in the direction of late 1800's peasanthood, but I digress). Before Marx and socialism there was no 8 hour work day, there was no vacation, there was no occupational safety, there was no 40 hour week, there was no minimum wage, there was no pension or retirement. Workers fought tooth and nail for each one of these things for decades before you were born with it, and people like you have been raised so misinformed as to want to throw it away for "muh capitalism".



Gotta love how he posits marxism WHILE espousing national socialist undertones. The irony of starting this rant with a call out to God, while being a godless heathen is also noted.

It's like he doesn't even understand the premise of the words he's mish-mashing.

[Swish]

https://i.imgur.com/l3LP8o3.gif

[imperiouskitten]

God it must be nice to have such a simplistic worldview. You think our quality of life came from capitalism? We aren't even fucking capitalist, we are a mixed market, just like everyone else. Our standard of living is higher because we are a wealthier nation. We are a wealthy nation because of strong civic & cultural traits, all the events over the last 500 years, imperialism, and a combination of state interventionist economics and public institutions that protect our quality of life. We are free market to the extent that private parties are free to exchange goods and services and people can establish free enterprise, but beyond that we have always been interventionist, with the government selectively cultivating, protecting, and expanding certain industries through laws. Sometimes because of corruption, sometimes because of public will.

https://i.imgur.com/NQ4vmu3.jpg

Do you know what this is? Thousands of people marching for an 8 hour work day in 1900. Motivated by socialist ideas, people like this helped us transition from Chinese capitalism and syndicalism to the mixed market we have today (which has been terribly eroded since the 50's back in the direction of late 1800's peasanthood, but I digress). Before Marx and socialism there was no 8 hour work day, there was no vacation, there was no occupational safety, there was no 40 hour week, there was no minimum wage, there was no pension or retirement. Workers fought tooth and nail for each one of these things for decades before you were born with it, and people like you have been raised so misinformed as to want to throw it away for "muh capitalism".

pretty accurate

[Danth]

there was no 8 hour work day, there was no vacation, there was no occupational safety, there was no 40 hour week, there was no minimum wage, there was no pension or retirement. Workers fought tooth and nail for each one of these things for decades before you were born with it, and people like you have been raised so misinformed as to want to throw it away for "muh capitalism".

You left out the best (worst) bit, if workers had the gall to do something like go on strike, the owners would call their buddies in the statehouse to send out soldiers to shoot the strikers. The "Good old days" weren't so good. Those who forget their history are doomed to repeat it.

[Topgunben]

God it must be nice to have such a simplistic worldview. You think our quality of life came from capitalism? We aren't even fucking capitalist, we are a mixed market, just like everyone else. Our standard of living is higher because we are a wealthier nation. We are a wealthy nation because of strong civic & cultural traits, all the events over the last 500 years, imperialism, and a combination of state interventionist economics and public institutions that protect our quality of life. We are free market to the extent that private parties are free to exchange goods and services and people can establish free enterprise, but beyond that we have always been interventionist, with the government selectively cultivating, protecting, and expanding certain industries through laws. Sometimes because of corruption, sometimes because of public will.

https://i.imgur.com/NQ4vmu3.jpg

Do you know what this is? Thousands of people marching for an 8 hour work day in 1900. Motivated by socialist ideas, people like this helped us transition from Chinese capitalism and syndicalism to the mixed market we have today (which has been terribly eroded since the 50's back in the direction of late 1800's peasanthood, but I digress). Before Marx and socialism there was no 8 hour work day, there was no vacation, there was no occupational safety, there was no 40 hour week, there was no minimum wage, there was no pension or retirement. Workers fought tooth and nail for each one of these things for decades before you were born with it, and people like you have been raised so misinformed as to want to throw it away for "muh capitalism".

So you’re saying whites are the superior race. I guess that makes sense why socialism only works in predominantly white countries.

Thank you for your insights.

[imperiouskitten]

imagine being an unracist conservative lol

#rino

[Jibartik]

It's capitalism minus Christianity. Jim Rogers prepared his family to move to China back around the time Obama was first getting into office. Perhaps the money was heading that way, what better for a money person than to be doing business in a place where people are valueless. Understand that isn't me saying Asian people are not worth anything, that is saying a Religion here keeps parts of it in check. The USA is big on checks and balances.

I think free market capitalism works with Christian values being the #1 priority, but then that isn't free market capitalism :(

https://youtu.be/Jne9t8sHpUc?t=88

[kjs86z]

https://i.imgur.com/1UtOXwt.jpg

[magnetaress]

https://i.imgur.com/1UtOXwt.jpg

This is the best you got, and you post it incessantly seeking attention from this demographic on an ancient and arcane gaming platform dominated by males.

Boring.

purple under eyes is accurate tho

[imperiouskitten]

whos the haggard purplehair with the wack degree supposed to be?

[FatherSioux]

The only true resource any country ever really has are its people.

You are one of my favorite posters to read around here. I routinely am amazed at the things you believe. Hard to imagine a functioning adult holding views that clash with reality in such a staggering way.

The USA has the best culture for innovation as well as the best government system to allow it. On top of all that we are the most resource rich continent. This is why we are who we are.

[kjs86z]

You are one of my favorite posters to read around here. I routinely am amazed at the things you believe. Hard to imagine a functioning adult holding views that clash with reality in such a staggering way.

The USA has the best culture for innovation as well as the best government system to allow it. On top of all that we are the most resource rich continent. This is why we are who we are.

Progressivism is a mental disorder driven by cowardice and weakness.

[magnetaress]

Making money off of creative dance therapy is capitalism at it's finest. Defiantly, don't ever bill less than 1k/hr.

[Jimjam]

Making money off of creative dance therapy is capitalism at it's finest. Defiantly, don't ever bill less than 1k/hr.

basically this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cV6pnvCVM4&list=OLAK5uy_mXnutMP1mQ7SEDbT-_j7hVRfWR60RC40k

[magnetaress]

basically this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cV6pnvCVM4&list=OLAK5uy_mXnutMP1mQ7SEDbT-_j7hVRfWR60RC40k

them cymbals :cool:

[kaizersoze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmQdoQ5wHsc

[Jibartik]

basically this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cV6pnvCVM4&list=OLAK5uy_mXnutMP1mQ7SEDbT-_j7hVRfWR60RC40k

I raided to this when I was a kid satan has ruined us lol

[douglas1999]

Capitalism fucking rules, I honestly don't understand how any marginally educated person can't understand this. We get to be here on this forum for a popular game from 1999 arguing this retarded notion that maybe capitalism is bad because of capitalism. You get to talk about how terrible the US is and how terrible capitalism is because of the freedoms granted to you by the US constitution (assuming you are a US citizen; if you're commenting on this stuff as some douchebag european or australian please eat shit forever).

[Gravydoo II]

unfettered capitalism is bad. Thats 19th century great britian. 5 year old kids in the work house. 1% rules 99%. Strikes were punished with force, lower wages, more hours. On and on the injustice. The formation of classes, caste systems, monopolies, and everything else greed can breed in a human. Slavery, even.

Its not all bad though. Just need some well thought out laws to prevent such practices.

[Mblake81]

You get to talk about how terrible the US is and how terrible capitalism is because of the freedoms granted to you by the US constitution (assuming you are a US citizen; if you're commenting on this stuff as some douchebag european or australian please eat shit forever).

I would have used a bit more tact, maybe not though. One of the big things about getting on the Internet back in the day was talking with people from around the world, reaching beyond what's in your own backyard.

But even I reached my limits with that stuff, especially trolling politics as if you live here.

[imperiouskitten]

Capitalism is just a system which turned out to be stable, one evolution of the various human societies which uniformly used to outright enslave, which has obfuscated the mechanisms of that servitude and in so doing, yes, I think improved upon feudalism and the old tribal blood law. As Gravy calls attention to, "pure" capitalism and "pure" libertarianism produce horrifying outcomes, so I don't think it's at all sane to describe capitalism as inherently "good". It is not intrinsically good, it is only "better" than the raw and arbitrary rule of the strong, at least to my mind, and it's also stable enough to maintain a somewhat peaceful social stasis.

We have modified the system of capitalism for the better in the past. We will hopefully repeat that feat in the future, further refining things, mainly by distributing some of the vast surplus we now generate to improve the baseline welfare of all people. Ideally speaking, perhaps one day we would do away with it entirely in the sci-fi future, when labor and industry efforts are entirely managed by machines and human life is merely to frolick and enjoy the freedoms and joys our metal empire can provide. Which is to say, I can imagine a scenario in the future where "capitalism" will have outlived any pretense of usefulness, and instead will mean that the vast powers of the networked robot world can be controlled by a very few people, with the power to torture and crush a great mass of humanity, because a small elite inherited the rights to the thing from an ancestor who worked ten generations back. The only function it will serve then is to continue humanity's suffering beyond when it ought to have stopped, having ascended to near Godhood by birthing robotic servants capable of pampering every single individual.

Anyway, you needn't take my future projections as evidence. Just look to the robber barons and railroad antitrust if you have any illusions about the "intrinsic goodness" of capitalism. Without a meta-structure to unkink the strange and bad situations that capitalism often drives, civilization suffers. The past already demonstrates that ideal human society is not some simplistic libertarian dream, but must be painstakingly carved out with careful measures against the law of the strong. Capitalism is, itself, the law of the strong with humane redoubts carved-in -- too few. Waving a big foam finger for Capitalism strikes me as counterproductive; what we need to focus on are the ways we can modify things for the better, not to cling to a miserable past.