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Somewhere I've read:
"Make sure whatever class you roll you put all points in CHA." Is this correct? How important this is? I wonder if I need to start again...
Also: "Stay /anon and don't announce your location in ooc."
I would assume for low levels this does not apply, correct?
Tunabros
12-03-2020, 07:28 PM
when they say put your points in cha they are trolling
Cha is only used for classes who can charm or lull lines (enchanter for example)
Its used in PVE sometimes for divine intervention (https://wiki.project1999.com/Divine_Intervention)
I would put myself in anon at all times, but the population is so low you might not
encounter an actual fight with a another player until well up 45+ ish
Ret.SaxonAlex
12-03-2020, 07:28 PM
I am not aware of any pvp bonuses from cha. Maybe there is something i am unaware of about faction. I believe you put points in like any other server with maybe some exceptions to tactics like proc warriors. Cha is good for enchs and bards but I am not good at either so I can not say if int or cha is more important. I have heard both. You can get some money bonuses at merchants from cha but the little I have investigated it it does not do much unless maybe you are on a speed run on a new server and trying to buy a hard to get NPC item. Try camping sisters camp in Lfay for money. I believe its camp 14 by MM.
when they say put your points in cha they are trolling
That's good news for me, thank you!
I killed many skeletons to hit level 4. I got few stacks of bone chips. And not one single stinking Cracked Staff!
Soon I'm going to need to buy lvl 5 spells and I'm still waiting on my first platina lol. OK I have some cooper/silver/gold so all will be good, but I forgot how hard really is, to start completely from zero. I started few alts on green, but you pass down some platina, you can buy bags right away, some items make you better, stronger and it is like piece of cake.
But this time, it was a different story. I had to run few times to guard for a rescue, BEFORE I managed to kill my first lvl 1 NPC on red. Fun times.
On a positive note, haven't died yet, so I'm doing great ;)
So, back to those skelies... or they have been nerfed (their loot) or I have really bad luck lol
Hope this is not an early warning to me... :)
Donmega
12-04-2020, 03:12 AM
I killed many skeletons to hit level 4. I got few stacks of bone chips. And not one single stinking Cracked Staff!
Im only level 8 atm and have killed many a skeleton and have yet to see a cracked staff so its not just you lol. All good though.
Welcome to Red btw! :)
Im only level 8 atm and have killed many a skeleton and have yet to see a cracked staff so its not just you lol. All good though.
Welcome to Red btw! :)
Ahh, I knew it, server based discrimination! :D
and thanks :)
chevy79bu
12-04-2020, 12:47 PM
Just hang in there you two, it does get easier as time goes on. It took me until around level 25ish to fully catch up on all my spells as a druid. But do flows a lot faster on red so lvls do go by quicker. Hit me up in game, I will be on tonight and I may be able to lend you a bit of a helping hand. My Red name is Reeltree.
Just hang in there you two, it does get easier as time goes on. It took me until around level 25ish to fully catch up on all my spells as a druid. But do flows a lot faster on red so lvls do go by quicker. Hit me up in game, I will be on tonight and I may be able to lend you a bit of a helping hand. My Red name is Reeltree.
Oh, I know soon will be better, at lvl 12 (i think) i can start with Minotaures in Steamfont and they drop axes for around 3pp. Then few levels later bandit sisters in LF and I should have few hundred platina. Soo all is good, I was just commenting, I forgot what a real start is ;)
Thank you for your generous offer, especially since you are relatively new also. I will skip it though, it is a challenge, part of the game. That way I will remember leveling this one much better, than all the alts on green that got initial help from me :p
Donmega
12-04-2020, 01:56 PM
Just hang in there you two, it does get easier as time goes on. It took me until around level 25ish to fully catch up on all my spells as a druid. But do flows a lot faster on red so lvls do go by quicker. Hit me up in game, I will be on tonight and I may be able to lend you a bit of a helping hand. My Red name is Reeltree.
Yes Reeltree is a great help! He helped me out on my cleric. Thanks again!
Gustoo
12-04-2020, 02:30 PM
Dang I get cracked staffs all the time.
You should always be anon if you are being as strategic as possible, but since server is pretty empty you can do quite a bit with impertinence.
Dang I get cracked staffs all the time.
You should always be anon if you are being as strategic as possible, but since server is pretty empty you can do quite a bit with impertinence.
That's. Just. So. Unfair! lol
OK will do, keep my anon on at all times. I though, since I'm low level, no one will bother with me, so what is the point. But apparently, there is a reason, so will just be annon from now on. Does it matter if you are anon or role? If yes, why is /anon better than /role on red?
Tunabros
12-04-2020, 02:51 PM
That's. Just. So. Unfair! lol
OK will do, keep my anon on at all times. I though, since I'm low level, no one will bother with me, so what is the point. But apparently, there is a reason, so will just be annon from now on. Does it matter if you are anon or role? If yes, why is /anon better than /role on red?
so no one knows where you are and train you for fun or something
its a PVP server, dude
so no one knows where you are and train you for fun or something
its a PVP server, dude
I will have Druid and Cleric on red. If anyone trains or kills me, that player will never EVAR get port or rez LOL! I will be making me a revenge list lmao
DoodyLich666
12-04-2020, 03:41 PM
I will have Druid and Cleric on red. If anyone trains or kills me, that player will never EVAR get port or rez LOL! I will be making me a revenge list lmao
Tight move.
(hope I didn't butcher the name)
Now that was interesting day on Red!
I had to re-roll. Someone told me, my name (Idontpvp) will have opposite effect and I may gather some extra PvP love with it. So, after grinding it all the way to lvl 4 :D I decided to start over.
Since I had now knowledge, that skeletons are very stingy with their cracked staves, I decided for a different strategy:
I started Druid Hafling in Rivervale and then I started to level him up with Quest 'Deputy Tagil' since you get every so often a potion as quest reward that sells for 1 platina. You get few of them and you have plenty for first few spells, and bags. My plan was, to get 3-4 potions for this druid and to save another 3-4 potions for a Cleric I will start in Kaladim. That way each of them get easier start and I don't have to worry about stingy skeletons.
As i'm running around doing quest, I by mistake hand in to Deputy my starting weapon instead of quest scroll. Great! Now I'm without a weapon. Wonderful start lol! But no worry really, I would do scroll quests till lvl 4, then I can just kill skelies with spells and eventually some weapon should drop, that I would be able to use.
At level 2 someone cast offensive spell on me, but there was a msg I was protected. Whatever protection it was (too big level gap?) i was grateful for it. (hmm, actually thinking about it, this was my first PvP encounter that I survived! That counts like win for me :p Maybe I should quit now, that I'm ahead lol)
Another hour of running the quest, then generous player (Altruizis) come by, gave me buffs and lots of platina. More than I needed. 5 would be plenty! But thank you!
Needles to say, I will not be doing that quest any more, and skelies can now be as stingy as they want! I'm now ready for NPC's. ;) (but not for players, though, keep those offensive spells off me lol)
Donmega
12-05-2020, 03:32 AM
Thats awesome man!! Im glad to hear you had a great first day as well as some good fortune with someone able to give you a few plat for spells. That happened for me. As you can see there are quite a few very nice people on the server that help out starting players. Maybe sometime we can group in the future. My main is a very low cleric atm and my alt is a baby shaman.
Twainz
12-05-2020, 12:10 PM
Whats your character name?
Thats awesome man!! Im glad to hear you had a great first day as well as some good fortune with someone able to give you a few plat for spells. That happened for me. As you can see there are quite a few very nice people on the server that help out starting players. Maybe sometime we can group in the future. My main is a very low cleric atm and my alt is a baby shaman.
Yes, I just need to stay bellow lvl40 to stay relative safe lol
Sure, we will group, if I manage to catch up with you. You are level 8 or more, my cleric is 1 but he will grow :-) I will make though Cleric, with STR, he will be able to mele to some degree, he will have maxed out defense etc... I bet it will be fun joining two cleric together, one more mele oriented another more caster. Will let you know when I get above lvl10 and will check then on your level.
Ahh and I have Druid also, lvl 3 now, so basically just starting both of them.
Donmega
12-06-2020, 03:54 AM
Yes, I just need to stay bellow lvl40 to stay relative safe lol
Sure, we will group, if I manage to catch up with you. You are level 8 or more, my cleric is 1 but he will grow :-) I will make though Cleric, with STR, he will be able to mele to some degree, he will have maxed out defense etc... I bet it will be fun joining two cleric together, one more mele oriented another more caster. Will let you know when I get above lvl10 and will check then on your level.
Ahh and I have Druid also, lvl 3 now, so basically just starting both of them.
I am very VERY casual atm due to work ramping up and other things so i only get to get on a couple days a week. But by all means please add me and if you see me on give me a shout. Names Secsy and Artio
I am very VERY casual atm due to work ramping up and other things so i only get to get on a couple days a week. But by all means please add me and if you see me on give me a shout. Names Secsy and Artio
Will do. I have now both cleric and druid at lvl 6 now. When they hit 8 later this week (or next week) I will start looking for you :-) I'm mostly playing early hours, when there are less players logged in.
P.s.
Druid is now twinked with nice weapon and two rings I got from generous player from Sanctuary
Oh, one warning, I'm bad player, I'm bigger danger to myself than to the NPC's. I will probably get us both killed lol
Whats your character name?
I think you asked Donmega this question. Answer: "Names Secsy and Artio"
I will skip posting my names on this forum. Just in case, I'm way to bad player, so I better stay incognito ;)
Donmega
12-07-2020, 07:50 PM
Will do. I have now both cleric and druid at lvl 6 now. When they hit 8 later this week (or next week) I will start looking for you :-) I'm mostly playing early hours, when there are less players logged in.
P.s.
Druid is now twinked with nice weapon and two rings I got from generous player from Sanctuary
Oh, one warning, I'm bad player, I'm bigger danger to myself than to the NPC's. I will probably get us both killed lol
Its funny you should say that because I play early as well lol. Well during the day too. But all good glad your twinked that will help us out alot haha. Dont worry about being bad. Im no expert either. I will actually be jumping on tomorrow morning :)
Its funny you should say that because I play early as well lol. Well during the day too. But all good glad your twinked that will help us out alot haha. Dont worry about being bad. Im no expert either. I will actually be jumping on tomorrow morning :)
Well, both are at lvl 7 now, so two more levels, one for mediate, another for new spells then i should be close :-)
Tomorrow I will probably not be able to log in. If I do, it will be for a very short intervals. But I have to do some catching up first anyway :)
I added your two toons as friend. When I see you online I will send you a tell.
Jazzy
12-08-2020, 02:34 AM
What the fuck is this here?
Is this the red forums?
These new player trolls are getting pretty complex. Hats off to whoever the autist is who has kept them up over the years.
Gustoo
12-08-2020, 02:03 PM
Agreed they are doing a great job.
What the fuck is this here?
Is this the red forums?
I don't understand the tone of some of you.
Seems like you would fit better in Rants and Flames forum.
These new player trolls are getting pretty complex. Hats off to whoever the autist is who has kept them up over the years.
Mind to explain your thinking further? What trolling? What autists? What are you referring to?
I'm relatively new to the game (started 2020), have toons on green, and decided to try red also. What is the point of your post?
Tunabros
12-08-2020, 03:32 PM
I will have Druid and Cleric on red. If anyone trains or kills me, that player will never EVAR get port or rez LOL! I will be making me a revenge list lmao
pretty much everyone boxs on red
so they can port or rez their toons
pretty much everyone boxs on red
so they can port or rez their toons
So much for my plan.... thanks :)
Mind to explain your thinking further? What trolling? What autists? What are you referring to?
I'm relatively new to the game (started 2020), have toons on green, and decided to try red also. What is the point of your post?
pretty much everyone boxs on red
so they can port or rez their toons
That and there is a theme here over years to troll vets into thinking there are new players joining a dwindling population. It’s a deep play, it gives them hope, the heaviest weight a man can carry. You’ll see. Red will change you. I played for years, now when I join a new community or game people call me a psycho.
My first character here started out as a hopeful young dark elf but a Druid named Mornin offered to buff me and instead ninja ported me to NK from nektulos so the druids of the ring could “cleanse this foul elf” I never got my body back. I made a friendly wizard porting for clarity and killed people for the rest of my days. Never looked back.
Good luck
That and there is a theme here over years to troll vets into thinking there are new players joining a dwindling population.
Ahh, I see. Well in my case I did start on red :)
But I have toons on all three servers. I will see what I like the best. Or something that I want is camped on one server, I can try on another :)
As for the rest, I hear you and I'm probably the least suited player for PvP server, so I do wonder, how long I will last. But can't hurt trying out and having several options available.
magnetaress
12-08-2020, 05:39 PM
If u wasnt a char that can farm and help newibes do druid, or shm, if u want to be a box ally, do clr, if u want to be cool and farm for whatever alt u want to play into your 50's, do enchanter or necro.
Right now there's 3 wizards leveling up cuz the box is wide open for quad kiting, but thats a slow class to start out on it takes a few weeks to do jboots and temperate staff quest unless u are willing to poopsock. Cleric is brutal if u unless mind afking for 30 min.
Necro is a cakewalk. Even if all u do is stand there and lifetap while ur pet hits stuff.
I'd say mage is probably fun to but u will never win in pvp ever period.
I'll probably be taking my cleric into ToFS and probably my necro at some point if i lose my mind completely. Looking forward to one day in 2021 maybe putting some fun toys on an ikky war. If the internet is still real and i dont die for healtth reasons.
I havent gone anon or role yet, in 29 levels, and my points are all in CHA, 100 cha human clr so that i can solo in dungeons later if i ever go to thurgardain and get an armor )
Donmega
12-08-2020, 07:13 PM
That and there is a theme here over years to troll vets into thinking there are new players joining a dwindling population.
Im sorry to hear that was/is a thing. Ive never played red and am enjoying it currently over the blue and green servers. When it stops being fun I will stop playing it. Thats it.
magnetaress
12-08-2020, 09:57 PM
a lot of friendships were made by ppl doing that so dont feel tooo bad about it
---that said i'm upfront about it, and a lot of other elf players are too, if u dont pretend like a totally desperate newb and just do ur thing and pay ur due's with an alt to farm pixels ppl will accept u on the box no probs
i think it only matters to like 3 people who never logged off since 2012 when someone got some kinda dragon pixel with their 'newb' who just got leveled up in a week, then quits to the opposing side over an AoN, ppl still bitch about that stuff when u go in their discords, but u can tone it out/make ur own discord/ be ur own friend network, just ignore it
Cleric is brutal if u unless mind afking for 30 min.
Necro is a cakewalk. Even if all u do is stand there and lifetap while ur pet hits stuff.
I haven't gone anon or role yet, in 29 levels, and my points are all in CHA, 100 cha human clr so that i can solo in dungeons later if i ever go to thurgardain and get an armor )
Thanks for all the info. I think I may/will reconsider my Cleric pick. I have Necro on green (in 30's) and I'm a little bit familiar with it. If Cleric is that slow, then I don't want it. lol I will try to make friends by porting players with my Druid then (there are players that don't dual box since I see calls for porting - unless it is a deadly trap of course) ;)
So what is the story about going all in CHA on Red? Joke? Only Humans or Cleric (or Humans/Clerics) needs it? Or anyone should have max CHA? I've read somewhere about this, but didn't understand.
So for example, why would Gnome Necro need CHA on Red over other stats?
magnetaress
12-09-2020, 01:10 AM
Thanks for all the info. I think I may/will reconsider my Cleric pick. I have Necro on green (in 30's) and I'm a little bit familiar with it. If Cleric is that slow, then I don't want it. lol I will try to make friends by porting players with my Druid then (there are players that don't dual box since I see calls for porting - unless it is a deadly trap of course) ;)
So what is the story about going all in CHA on Red? Joke? Only Humans or Cleric (or Humans/Clerics) needs it? Or anyone should have max CHA? I've read somewhere about this, but didn't understand.
So for example, why would Gnome Necro need CHA on Red over other stats?
its a joke, u probably shouldnt unless u are hardcore, go all CHA.
90% of ports are cool and normal no one likes to trap ppl that way and it would be funny if someone did, thats the oldest trick in the book, usually its the druid doing the port, then killing the person, then leaving them there far away from their bind...
ppl usually minmax i guess unless its an alt, for most classes thats either int, sta, or wis, on the melee characters that actually get 4-6 points for sta, i guess that is kinda nice, but otherwise it hink sta is a dumb stat
90 wis feels a little short and its like 480 mana end game, but idk, i'm kinda crazy and i think its nice to not have to swap gear just to lull a mob as much, though i'll probably end up with a full wisdom set, a full melee set, and a full cha set
necros don't benifit from cha at all, their undead charms/fears dont care, maybe with numb the dead, but its a very niche spell, i use it sometimes, and ya my necro has 85 cha, cuz she's an alt for farming stuff, i wont likely do anything with her past 51 if i do, i don't think i would try to bill myself as a competative necro raider
i think if u just bought the absolute neccissary spells u could get a necro to 50 in a few weeks just grinding down mobs with call of bones or w/e makes u into a skele
its a joke, u probably shouldnt unless u are hardcore, go all CHA.
i think if u just bought the absolute neccissary spells u could get a necro to 50 in a few weeks just grinding down mobs with call of bones or w/e makes u into a skele
Ah, OK thanks :)
Not in a rush to get to high levels at all ;)
I will play slow and enjoy the game at low levels where I will mostly be off the radar lol
Krazy/sickpuppy
12-12-2020, 08:01 PM
Cha is your best choice for endgame pvp
I am very VERY casual atm due to work ramping up and other things so i only get to get on a couple days a week. But by all means please add me and if you see me on give me a shout. Names Secsy and Artio
I'm very slow at the moment. I decided to put cleric on hold, he levels better with few thousand platina invested into it I was told. So I will rather have Necro as my main and have Druid as support, since Necro is Iksar and he will be heated everywhere. That way, I can run around with Druid and bring him stuff...
So for now i will be leveling Necro and Druid. Tomorrow I will probably be on a little longer than usually and will check if you are anywhere. Although, my Druid can't freely travel around yet, as lvl 12. Or 11, can't recall lol
Cha is your best choice for endgame pvp
Ahh I see, thanks!
Swish
12-14-2020, 07:21 AM
I'm very slow at the moment. I decided to put cleric on hold, he levels better with few thousand platina invested into it I was told. So I will rather have Necro as my main and have Druid as support, since Necro is Iksar and he will be heated everywhere. That way, I can run around with Druid and bring him stuff...
So for now i will be leveling Necro and Druid. Tomorrow I will probably be on a little longer than usually and will check if you are anywhere. Although, my Druid can't freely travel around yet, as lvl 12. Or 11, can't recall lol
Solid choices, focus on the druid until he gets 29-34 at least.
Solid choices, focus on the druid until he gets 29-34 at least.
Will do, thanks
@Donmega
Tomorrow I will probably be on a little longer than usually and will check if you are anywhere. Although, my Druid can't freely travel around yet, as lvl 12. Or 11, can't recall lol
Nope, change of planes, not going to be on tomorrow. But I will catch you one of these days :-)
Donmega
12-15-2020, 10:43 AM
Nope, change of planes, not going to be on tomorrow. But I will catch you one of these days :-)
Haha no problem. I am actually thinking of making a necro too so i can farm for my cleric better.
Haha no problem. I am actually thinking of making a necro too so i can farm for my cleric better.
Yeah, Necro can level and farm naked. Cleric needs stuff. Considering Iksar? We can use my Druid for all delivery needs ;)
Btw, I joined Sanctuary guild
Donmega
12-18-2020, 03:08 AM
Yeah, Necro can level and farm naked. Cleric needs stuff. Considering Iksar? We can use my Druid for all delivery needs ;)
Btw, I joined Sanctuary guild
I ended up going DE for the necro. I still need to get that character into Sanctuary. We can still use the druid though lol
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