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kanras
05-17-2011, 07:15 AM
Currently, the formula for level > 50 is:
min_dmg = ((level*8)/10);

This is correct for the time period after this late 2001 patch (http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20011008.html). I'm having a tough time finding data on what it was prior to that patch. The closest I have is this post (http://www.monkly-business.net/forums/showpost.php?p=98208&postcount=7) saying that the min was 24 prior to it, but the post isn't all that convincing and doesn't specify for what level. Help!

Aadill
05-17-2011, 07:55 AM
As per some info in this thread:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=25435&highlight=flying+kick+accuracy, specifically this quoted post: http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=205767&postcount=2

and posted here:

http://www.monkly-business.net/index.php?pageid=abilities


with additional information on skill caps for all classes as well as specific discussion related to the monk damage table versus other melee posted here (both level 50 and level 60 values):

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/posts/list.m?start=0&topic_id=61984#753908


In short the current math seems close enough to accurate. As far as the timeframe goes the min damage kick he appears to be talking about was after that damage table increase. I only started playing right before Velious and always remember the higher values but that's anecdotal. One thing that could be searched for is info on thunderous kick because I bet that monks were tediously working on figuring out the math of how the damage is calculated for that disc. Min damage thunderous kicks would be based off of the min damage flying kick.

kanras
05-17-2011, 03:53 PM
From my Oct 2001 patch link:

The minimum damage done by Flying Kick will be greatly increased for monks starting at 51st level and scaling up to level 60.

The data from monkly-business abilities page and elsewhere is all after that change, as is our current formula. I'm more interested in what it was prior to being "greatly increased".

Rais
06-25-2011, 06:31 PM
I was just checking out my logs from Fear yesterday. I came across this. I was soloing the pathing shiverback at zone in. I was fully buffed with around 250 Str/ 60 Monk.

I can't find anything pre 2001 patch that is listed. But Flying kick landing for 3s? Or anything below 49 damage? Is this how it was on live?

[Fri Jun 24 20:12:44 2011] You kick a shiverback for 3 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 24 20:12:55 2011] You kick a shiverback for 133 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 24 20:13:01 2011] You kick a shiverback for 58 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 24 20:13:06 2011] You kick a shiverback for 83 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 24 20:13:35 2011] You kick a shiverback for 3 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 24 20:13:40 2011] You kick a shiverback for 46 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 24 20:13:48 2011] You kick a shiverback for 28 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 24 20:13:59 2011] You kick a shiverback for 3 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 24 20:14:05 2011] You kick a shiverback for 39 points of damage.


[Fri Jun 24 20:23:02 2011] You kick a shiverback for 45 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 24 20:23:22 2011] You kick a shiverback for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 24 20:23:31 2011] You kick a shiverback for 64 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 24 20:23:36 2011] You kick a shiverback for 30 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 24 20:23:50 2011] You kick a shiverback for 6 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 24 20:24:02 2011] You kick a shiverback for 18 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 24 20:24:07 2011] You kick a shiverback for 29 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 24 20:26:35 2011] You kick a shiverback for 42 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 24 20:29:14 2011] You kick a shiverback for 82 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 24 20:29:27 2011] You kick a shiverback for 74 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 24 21:16:29 2011] You kick a shiverback for 17 points of damage.


[Mon Jun 20 20:56:10 2011] You kick a thunder spirit for 3 points of damage.
[Mon Jun 20 20:56:16 2011] You kick a thunder spirit for 13 points of damage.
[Mon Jun 20 20:56:23 2011] You kick a thunder spirit for 13 points of damage.
[Mon Jun 20 20:56:29 2011] You kick a thunder spirit for 18 points of damage.

Treats
06-25-2011, 07:59 PM
Post regarding minimum flying kick damage here:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=312042&postcount=59