No more travel?

[LazyHydras]

Was going to get on a plane this Tuesday to go see family for Thanksgiving. Just cancelled my flight. Oh well. Hopefully the vaccine will be ready and distributed to seniors, like my parents, before Christmas.

[kjs86z]

Why?

Its a great time to travel. Good rates, lots of room on the plane, etc.

Don't be scared like they want you to be.

[feniin]

Yeah, get Covid and bring it home to your families - fewer gifts you'll have to buy at Christmas! Grandma's wish list was too expensive anyway.

[magnetaress]

honestly if you have had covid two or three times for now you should be cleared to travel

people who are asymptomatic with low grade cases will spread immunity faster and cause less severe infections than really sick people

should still wear mask and wash hands tho so u spread less virus and give people a chance to catch up with their own immunities.

[Lizard1]

Planes are flying, you can go if you want. Should you?

No

[douglas1999]

Yeah, get Covid and bring it home to your families - fewer gifts you'll have to buy at Christmas! Grandma's wish list was too expensive anyway.

Oh god please, you pompous douchebag. "Durr I guess you don't care about your grandma's LIFE". It's his choice if he doesn't want to risk it, but there's this thing where the elderly can die even if they *don't* get covid. I, personally, would feel pretty guilty if I chose not to see my grandma for christmas because of covid and then she died of something else before I ever got to see her again. Jesus lefties can be so god damn callous, and people say it's the right politicizing this

[Tunabros]

Im stuck in this shitty country because people can't put on their masks and social distance

[douglas1999]

Im stuck in this shitty country because people can't put on their masks and social distance

No you're stuck because of hysteria over a disease that turned out to be utterly benign by almost every metric for almost every demographic. Humans are not built to socially distance for a full god damn year. I mean maybe if you're an anti-social introvert sperg in day to day life anyway, it's no big deal. The psychological effects of these measures are very real for a lot of people though.

Masks, sure, easy enough to do. But it's largely symbolic if you keep up with the current research. Unless you have an N-95, wearing dinky little loosely fitted pieces of fabric or paper over your face is barely doing anything.

[Tunabros]

No you're stuck because of hysteria over a disease that turned out to be utterly benign by almost every metric for almost every demographic. Humans are not built to socially distance for a full god damn year. I mean maybe if you're an anti-social introvert sperg in day to day life anyway, it's no big deal. The psychological effects of these measures are very real for a lot of people though.

My home country had less than a thousand confirmed cases and got 200+ days so far

without a single case

If you want to enter our country, you have to stay in quarantine for 2 weeks before entering

People in Taiwan are now allowed to go out and do things like a functioning society because no one in Taiwan has covid anymore. It's non-existent.

Americans are just retarded

[douglas1999]

My home country had less than a thousand confirmed cases and got 200+ days so far

without a single case

If you want to enter our country, you have to stay in quarantine for 2 weeks before entering

People in Taiwan are now allowed to go out and do things like a functioning society because no one in Taiwan has covid anymore. It's non-existent.

Americans are just retarded

But people in Taiwan still have other diseases, many of which are more deadly than covid. So.. shouldn't they still be locking down? I don't think you're getting the point; reacting this way to a disease that barely kills anybody even if 100% of the population has it is absurd.

It's worth noting that Taiwan has like 1\14th the population of the US, which inherently makes controlling any communicable disease easier. Not that it matters, because covid is barely dangerous.

It's also worth noting that a 2 week quarantine won't necessarily protect a population, since people can carry it without symptoms. If the rationale of a quarantine is that after 2 weeks of no symptoms you must not have it, the fact that people can carry it asymptomatically kind of throws a wrench in that. But again, luckily it's not very dangerous at all for the vast majority of people, even the vast majority of the elderly. So that's good.

[Tunabros]

But people in Taiwan still have other diseases, many of which are more deadly than covid. So.. shouldn't they still be locking down? I don't think you're getting the point; reacting this way to a disease that barely kills anybody even if 100% of the population has it is absurd.

It's worth noting that Taiwan has like 1\14th the population of the US, which inherently makes controlling any communicable disease easier. Not that it matters, because covid is barely dangerous.

It's also worth noting that a 2 week quarantine won't necessarily protect a population, since people can carry it without symptoms. If the rationale of a quarantine is that after 2 weeks of no symptoms you must not have it, the fact that people can carry it asymptomatically kind of throws a wrench in that. But again, luckily it's not very dangerous at all for the vast majority of people, even the vast majority of the elderly. So that's good.


think your mixing up Taiwan with China...

we have one of the best medical care/insurance in the world and everyone gets free tests

my family, there are doing fine and having fun

while I'm stuck in America because half the population think its fake or refuse to social distance/put on a mask

if covid wasn't so dangerous why don't you get catch one yourself and see if it hurts

[douglas1999]

think your mixing up Taiwan with China...

we have one of the best medical care/insurance in the world and everyone gets free tests

my family, there are doing fine and having fun

while I'm stuck in America because half the population think its fake or refuse to social distance/put on a mask

if covid wasn't so dangerous why don't you get catch one yourself and see if it hurts

No I'm definitely not mixing them up, I'm very much aware of Taiwan and support them specifically because of their relationship with china, and how china doesn't recognize their sovereignty. I may very well have already had covid, where I live you can only get tested if you exhibit symptoms. That's kind of my point, the hysteria over it's alleged danger, as if it's ebola or something, is why you can't travel. It's not based on any kind of sound logic or medical reasoning. It made sense at the beginning, we did not yet understand what we were dealing with, hence travel bans. 10 months later we understand it a lot better, and the statistics with regard to mortality rates paint a much safer picture, thankfully. Some people cannot get the hysteria out of their systems though.

[Tunabros]

No I'm definitely not mixing them up, I'm very much aware of Taiwan and support them specifically because of their relationship with china, and how china doesn't recognize their sovereignty. I may very well have already had covid, where I live you can only get tested if you exhibit symptoms. That's kind of my point, the hysteria over it's alleged danger, as if it's ebola or something, is why you can't travel. It's not based on any kind of sound logic or medical reasoning. It made sense at the beginning, we did not yet understand what we were dealing with, hence travel bans. 10 months later we understand it a lot better, and the statistics with regard to mortality rates paint a much safer picture, thankfully. Some people cannot get the hysteria out of their systems though.

I see what you are saying. We are over reacting quite a bit on this virus. But I do think

that with over a quarter of a million dead to it in US, we should have taken it more

seriously from the start

[Lizard1]

think your mixing up Taiwan with China...

we have one of the best medical care/insurance in the world and everyone gets free tests

my family, there are doing fine and having fun

while I'm stuck in America because half the population think its fake or refuse to social distance/put on a mask

if covid wasn't so dangerous why don't you get catch one yourself and see if it hurts

Lold at this post very cute and true

[imperiouskitten]

honestly if you have had covid two or three times for now you should be cleared to travel

people who are asymptomatic with low grade cases will spread immunity faster and cause less severe infections than really sick people

should still wear mask and wash hands tho so u spread less virus and give people a chance to catch up with their own immunities.

this isn't really how it works FYI -- the infecting viral load has naught to do with severity of symptoms. there's a hundred million hundred thousand more virus in your body than the init sneeze by the time you get symptoms.

[magnetaress]

this isn't really how it works FYI -- the infecting viral load has naught to do with severity of symptoms. there's a hundred million hundred thousand more virus in your body than the init sneeze by the time you get symptoms.

It takes time. Even if it's just hours for 1000 viri to replicate into lots.

There's a few crucial hours there for our bodies to do some critical stuff.

Though it's all purely speculative.

I want my first exposure to be small. I think my first exposure was. No direct coughs. Lots of handwashings . And critically amped immune response due to near death incident. I'm still not sure any of this is real anymore.