Chanter Epic Food for Thought

[Mercenary]

So I have noticed that the spawn timer for VD sucks.

I mean who hasn't :P.

So I heard a rumor that his Spawn timer used to be much shorter, so I was on that bandwagon for a while.

Until I did a quick google search changing the accepted dates from Classic, to Velious.

This website came up...

https://enchanter-epic.bjornstar.com/modani.html

It states that the spawn timers for VD and VT have always been the same.

It sucks that it is just that classic but it is what it is, I guess.

GL to anyone else racing me for it. (8 others in zone :P)

[enjchanter]

What is the point of this post

[Bondrake]

He is clearly on drugs

[Baler]

VD isn't fun to camp for 72 hours.
Throw it on the pile of VD complaints. just sayin

[circlerogue]

No one complained about VD’s spawn timer until VT’s was reduced. Therefore, we should move VT’s timer back to 2-7 days so people stop complaining about VD.

[Mercenary]

Must say, shocked at the rudeness of the people who replied.

Also, some of which I know these people.

Disgraceful.

"The point of the post" -- was just a thought I had.

How often do we complain about things that aren't actually the case?

Super toxic community. yikes

[Hisamori]

So I have noticed that the spawn timer for VD sucks.

I mean who hasn't :P.

So I heard a rumor that his Spawn timer used to be much shorter, so I was on that bandwagon for a while.

Until I did a quick google search changing the accepted dates from Classic, to Velious.

This website came up...

https://enchanter-epic.bjornstar.com/modani.html

It states that the spawn timers for VD and VT have always been the same.

It sucks that it is just that classic but it is what it is, I guess.

GL to anyone else racing me for it. (8 others in zone :P)

There is compelling evidence that the bjornstar site source is post classic. In addition, staff have accepted it's not classic as the VT timer was overturned. Baylan295 has catalogued this evidence in two organized posts. The other evidence that does exist does not indicate the spawn window being as long as it was. In fact, when first implemented on P99, VD's spawn was 2 hours static. It must have been a default EQEqmu value or maybe they just set it there because no one had brought forth any information as to what the spawn should have been. It was changed to 2-7 days along with VT (prior to recent revision to VT spawn time) because of the information from that site.

So it's a bit more complicated than what is being suggested here.

[Mercenary]

There is compelling evidence that the bjornstar site source is post classic. In addition, staff have accepted it's not classic as the VT timer was overturned. Baylan295 has catalogued this evidence in two organized posts. The other evidence that does exist does not indicate the spawn window being as long as it was. In fact, when first implemented on P99, VD's spawn was 2 hours static. It must have been a default EQEqmu value or maybe they just set it there because no one had brought forth any information as to what the spawn should have been. It was changed to 2-7 days along with VT (prior to recent revision to VT spawn time) because of the information from that site.

So it's a bit more complicated than what is being suggested here.

Thanks this was quite helpful.

I almost wish that it was even like the OG manastone camp.

I would have my epic months ago if this was the case :P.

[Hisamori]

Thanks this was quite helpful.

I almost wish that it was even like the OG manastone camp.

I would have my epic months ago if this was the case :P.

Agreed. The best the server could do is try to create some sort of agreement but it's almost impossible with a 5 day window to make anything meaningful. I think it's a waste of a lot of people's time to sock a 5 day window and having socked both VD and VT now, the difference between the two is pretty significant. The longer window also further reduces the number of kills per week which makes each sock more contested.

The only hope is that server dev (Nilbog, Telin, Roegan) see the evidence presented and come to the classic conclusion it points to. But I'll leave that for the bugs thread. Best of luck to anyone else trying to complete this.