Started a evil cleric tips appreciated

[Tunabros]

Just rolled a human cleric of Innoruuk the other day

Heard there were some quests I could do such as the necklaces in Neriak

and the summoning line quests...how hard would it be for me to do those quests faction

wise?

What about the aegis of life quest? Would I have to spend hours upon hours farming

priest of life faction?


thanks =))

[Baler]

Symbol quests aren't until warrens I think? Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
(I actually need exact info for each symbol to improve the wiki accuracy)

The symbol quest will tank you faction with the good clerics/paladins. Such as the ones in freeport.
But raise your faction with neriak something.

I can't say 100% but you should be able to do the summoning quests with no faction adjustment on that class/race/diety.

I don't think you can do aegis of life.

[Tunabros]

Symbol quests aren't until warrens I think? Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
(I actually need exact info for each symbol to improve the wiki accuracy)

The symbol quest will tank you faction with the good clerics/paladins. Such as the ones in freeport.
But raise your faction with neriak something.

I can't say 100% but you should be able to do the summoning quests with no faction adjustment on that class/race/diety.

I don't think you can do aegis of life.

no aegis of life?

well shit

its a really nice item

[Baler]

no aegis of life?

Obviously don't do the symbol quest first but maybe if you do Bandit Sashes you can do it? https://wiki.project1999.com/Bandit_Sashes

I'm not 100% certain either way. Hopefully someone knows and will chime in.

[Videri]

I took a level 1 Human Innoruuk cleric over to Paineel and they were Ready to Attack. :( It might take some faction work.

As for me, I made an Erudite cleric of Cazic-Thule and I think he is pretty cule.

[Tunabros]

I took a level 1 Human Innoruuk cleric over to Paineel and they were Ready to Attack. :( It might take some faction work.

As for me, I made an Erudite cleric of Cazic-Thule and I think he is pretty cule.

ah faction quest

guess I got some work to do

any clue on how to raise heretic faction?

[tpgramlich]

My wife's done a significant amount of faction questing on her iksar monk. The easiest way to raise Heretic faction without tanking Erudin factions is to just slaughter the Warrens. Most every other quest or mob for Heretic faction is also going to lower some kind of faction in Erudin (if that's of any concern to you). https://wiki.project1999.com/Heretics

[Baler]

Sounds like a classic bug if true that innoruuk human cleric is KoS to paineel...
Everything I've read says you should just barely be able to do the cleric quests there.

That's not to say every single NPC won't be KoS.

[jolanar]

Only way to raise Heretics that I know of without the Warrens is to kill Paineel guards.

Evil clerics of neutral races have surprisingly good faction. The fact they are a cleric counterbalances their religion for the most part.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Since you have started fresh, just level in the Warrens, that will level and faction you up real fast. I have a 24 Human Cleric of Innoruuk. The quest items are quite fun.

Free Fear Kiting
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https://wiki.project1999.com/Terror_Forged_Mask - Free Fear
https://wiki.project1999.com/Innoruuk_Symbol_Quests - Free Snare

Free Instant Cast Cooldown Refresh, See Invis, and Infravision for your terrible human eyes
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https://wiki.project1999.com/Fright_Forged_Helm

Fear kiting on a Cleric is quite fun, it makes you feel kind of like a Shadowknight with Blood Ember Boots and Blood Ember Gloves (except the Necklace snare is worse sadly).

You can Fear Kite and Melee up to around 40 with this setup probably. No need to only target undead either. The Snare/Fear is free, so you basically just save all your mana for Heals, Stuns, Damage Spells, and Buffs.

[Ravager]

Aegis is a nice item. Not worth the faction quest. Clerics are such a one trick pony that it really doesn't pay to go to the effort to get them the nicest items. The most they need to feel whole is Complete Heal, a quick patch heal, Clicky Rez and a few tools for getting around like Boots, SoW pots, WC cap, and Hammer.


If you really want the Aegis, you can kill the skeletons in SK for months on end to farm the faction for the hand-in.

[mcoy]

A couple cheap (on blue anyway) tools to also consider:

Donals Bracer of Mourning (https://wiki.project1999.com/Donal%27s_Bracer_of_Mourning)

Water Sprinkler of the Forgiven (https://wiki.project1999.com/Water_Sprinkler_of_the_Forgiven)

These 2 tools let you get to so many places, and save you on recharging your Ring of Shadows (https://wiki.project1999.com/Ring_of_Shadows)

-Mcoy

[cobhc3]

Hey Mcoy,
Can you break down how to use those 2 together? Does Atone have a resist rate issue if I recall correctly?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Hey Mcoy,
Can you break down how to use those 2 together? Does Atone have a resist rate issue if I recall correctly?

The idea is to cast pacify on all the mobs you can't get around while walking through a zone. If a crit fail on pacify occurs, you can hopefully root whichever mobs come after you to keep them off of you. Then you keep casting pacify on the agroed mobs until it sticks. Once all of the mobs are pacified, you mem blur them with atone. You need to get pacify to stick first, otherwise they will just re-agro you after atone, because you are within agro radius.

Nice thing about clerics is if you do end up dying, you can just pacify back to your body and res yourself:)

[cobhc3]

The idea is to cast pacify on all the mobs you can't get around while walking through a zone. If a crit fail on pacify occurs, you can hopefully root whichever mobs come after you to keep them off of you. Then you keep casting pacify on the agroed mobs until it sticks. Once all of the mobs are pacified, you mem blur them with atone. You need to get pacify to stick first, otherwise they will just re-agro you after atone, because you are within agro radius.

Nice thing about clerics is if you do end up dying, you can just pacify back to your body and res yourself:)

Oh nice! That is great!

[Gustoo]

Aegis is a nice item. Not worth the faction quest. Clerics are such a one trick pony that it really doesn't pay to go to the effort to get them the nicest items. The most they need to feel whole is Complete Heal, a quick patch heal, Clicky Rez and a few tools for getting around like Boots, SoW pots, WC cap, and Hammer.


If you really want the Aegis, you can kill the skeletons in SK for months on end to farm the faction for the hand-in.

A cleric used for only rezzing is one thing.

A cleric played as a main character is another thing.

As you can see, a cleric might be the second best CC class in game, behind enchanter. Maybe bards are better, making clerics a close 3rd.

Clerics can do a lot in addition to best heals and rezzes. You're almost convincing me to play cleric again on the next pvp server in 100 years.

[magnetaress]

A cleric used for only rezzing is one thing.

A cleric played as a main character is another thing.

As you can see, a cleric might be the second best CC class in game, behind enchanter. Maybe bards are better, making clerics a close 3rd.

Clerics can do a lot in addition to best heals and rezzes. You're almost convincing me to play cleric again on the next pvp server in 100 years.

If you want to do a CC cleric, boost str some to wear plate on a high elf, and then grab your tunare root neck.

IMO High elf 105 cha, 110 wis is perhaps the 'power' move as u can eventually get enough ac on there without massive str and get weight reduction bags by velious - u won't have to buff your str and can focus on wis/hp or resists

not having to swap out gear too much is winning at EQ

free 4 second roots = can cc 5 mobs forever - clerics are boss channelers and while we can't tank per say, we don't fold in two like a chanter.

Bards are pretty legit with cc tho, they can even fear multiple mobs and snare, easily, innoruuk snare necklace is NICHE if u wanna fear kite stuff outside and maybe raise melee skills some, absolutely uneccissary by the time u are 42 spectres fold like wet paper blankets

slipping around lower lvl dungeons with lull is quite fun, but no one uses a cleric to farm total newbie only gear, i dont see a vanilla 50 cleric putting FG's on farm like a chanter or necro sadly.

----- One day my human cleric of bertox will have full enchanted gold plate +cha+wis and imbued earings, i think i can grab an aegis even tho I worship bertox. Going to be interesting, Already indifferent for the priests of rodcet nife - bonestunder staff is within reach! - not the kind of gear u want to actually wear for raiding or pvp -

may not be able to hit warmly though.

-----

there is/was a clicky with atone (not in classic or vanilla maybe) but u got to click it like 10-20 times, maybe 3-4 if u are super lucky, i got it to work once in seb long long ago after a failed paci and root (maybe on live in like Pop)

[Stonewallx39]

I was really disappointed by how good my human Innoruk clerics faction was. Friggen amiable in surefall glade after killing a few gnolls. Totally ruined my immersion but... look like Freddy Mercury so still play from time to time.

[Zipity]

Don’t forget unstunnable casters that are rooted can be feared to interrupt spells too like giants :)

[Gustoo]

Cleric is limited by inefficient ways to actually kill enemies, and no mana recovery outside of manastone.

So they aren't ultimate solo players but they remain very versatile.

[Tunabros]

Cleric is limited by inefficient ways to actually kill enemies, and no mana recovery outside of manastone.

So they aren't ultimate solo players but they remain very versatile.

yah I always thought clerics as primarily a grouping or duo class

If I wanted to solo, I have to go hardcore and get a manastone or head to undead zones

:o

[Ravager]

Even with a manastone you're gimped solo, because there's so few zones to use it in the higher level you are.

[magnetaress]

It's possible to ding 60 on a cleric without grouping it just takes 250% longer than it would quadding with a wizard or 300% longer than charming or kiting on with a necro or ench.

Because you can kill dark blues all the way up.

Got my Bertoxxulous cleric up to 35, hell is so bad, not fighting in the most efficient place right now.

ToFS should get you into your 40s or unrest easily. Specs will get you to 50. Then go to CoM stables and use lull to break and pull a few undead mobs there, that'll get u to 55. You can also kill both the undead and living mobs outside CoM in EJ prettty easily, you'll burn 50% mana on the roaming undead and 75% on the living mobs. Gate to a safe spot and pray you don't get trained.

The rest is just a slugfest.

As far as Aegis, faction took me like 3 days randomly turning in rib bones and bone chips to level up. I think it takes longer to get Lord Grimrot to spawn and drop the quest turn ins. I think I'm Ally now with Knights of the Thunder (and still Ironically only dubious to my own guild down under). I wish there was a way to be ally to both lol.

Yeah this is my 2x reply....

Also remember u can farm lower lvls zones, like runneyeye, sola, warrens, etc with your AoEs to some extent if you have solid AC and back yourself up into a wall and don't get greedy with too many mobs. Cleric's can easily camp impskin gloves for 5K a pop+sell FS tot he gnomes. And we have access to paineel with a little effort :D

HG's been nerfed to oblivion and back, so ppl only make money farming gear it looks like now-a-days.

Good reasons to play cleric >>> so you can help other players. Or convince them and train them to be your minions :D That's winning EQ.

[Snaggles]

Assuming the paineel summoning quests are active it’s an easy faction grind. I believe my cleric did them at dubious faction (MQ’ed with my druid). In fact, I might have just invised up to the quest mobs. I also got the Inny’s symbol.

Between the robe option, neck and helm a human cleric is really nice. That helm is instant click and a solid junk buff/GCD clicky.

[Gustoo]

Probably nicest thing about being a disgusting evil human cleric is having access to almost every city by default.

Even as a halfling bristlebane with DE mask I can go anywhere but iksar land.

[magnetaress]

I was reading a reddit post about clerics, dont forget root + pacify (or lull, soothe, calm) + atone. You can basically make adds walk away and go home so you or your party can med up and re-pull for around 200-300 mana.

If you root, paci, atone a mob and it doesn't follow you around and point at u while ur close/in melee range, its safe to walk away and it will go home.

[mcoy]

I was reading a reddit post about clerics, dont forget root + pacify (or lull, soothe, calm) + atone. You can basically make adds walk away and go home so you or your party can med up and re-pull for around 200-300 mana.

If you root, paci, atone a mob and it doesn't follow you around and point at u while ur close/in melee range, its safe to walk away and it will go home.

Yup - I use the following tools all the time on blue:

Donal's Bracer (https://wiki.project1999.com/Donal%27s_Bracer_of_Mourning)

Water Sprinkler of the Forgiven (https://wiki.project1999.com/Water_Sprinkler_of_the_Forgiven)

If you take no action and only have prox agro one Atone (in addition to calm or pacify) is usually enough. If I root them (sometimes unavoidable) then it can take a couple casts before they stop giving me the evil-eye.

-Mcoy

[Gustoo]

Clerics are an under rated CC class, you can see that most of their CC spells they get at the same time as enchanters do. Their heals are so OP it masks their secondary OP crowd control ability. Same applies to Paladins which makes me sadface not think I can make a dwarf on red2.0 even though I want to.



MCOY can you explain the difference between Atone and Calm / Pacify?

[mcoy]

Atone is the cleric equivalent of memblur. It's not as powerful as the later Enchanter ones, but that just means you sometimes have to cast it more than once. It makes mobs forget that they're angry at you.

The lull line of spells (which includes calm and pacify) reduce mob's aggro radius for different durations. Pacify is the longest duration one (thanks to recently having its duration fixed) it lasts for 7 minutes, compared to 3 mins for Calm. The aggro radius reduction is also greater for Pacify. Since I don't have a donal's bracer on Green I usually use Calm to save mana, but sometimes (like if I have to walk through the mob in a tight tunnel) I need to use pacify otherwise it will reagro and I have to atone it again.

-Mcoy

[Gustoo]

Got it.

So paladin can't atone. But they can do the good lords work traveling with their lull spells and root.

Got it got it.

[mcoy]

Never underestimate the poor-man's memblur. Root the mob and camp out. Could also fear and camp but that could go very wrong very quickly, lol.

-Mcoy

[magnetaress]

omg add in tunare neck and u are literally a walking embodiment of pacifism in EQ :D

(sorry I know this thread is about EVUL, clerics, which I unfortunately am :p)

[Gustoo]

Never underestimate the poor-man's memblur. Root the mob and camp out. Could also fear and camp but that could go very wrong very quickly, lol.

-Mcoy

This is what I do, because I never used atone hence the noob questions about it. I used pacify as needed but would root / camp when things got really dicey occasionally on solo adventures.

When I was OOM and group got trained and was guaranteed to wipe I would IVU in guk (this only happened like once) and would log out for a few minutes while everyone died so I could rez em all again but I think that is pretty basic strat.

[mcoy]

This is what I do, because I never used atone hence the noob questions about it. I used pacify as needed but would root / camp when things got really dicey occasionally on solo adventures.

When I was OOM and group got trained and was guaranteed to wipe I would IVU in guk (this only happened like once) and would log out for a few minutes while everyone died so I could rez em all again but I think that is pretty basic strat.

Naw, that's pro strats right there. Basic is dying along with them or just gating and having to run back and CR.

Atone can be expensive if you have to cast it a lot. Fortunately the WSotF is otherwise garbage so it can usually be found for a reasonable price. I think I paid 100p for mine on Blue, but that might have been when chardok aoe was still a thing and the markets were flooded.

-Mcoy

[Gustoo]

PVE is really fun when you are in a group that is grinding for EXP but ALSO pushing hard to get loots, and then you allow things to get dicey.

It's great when you have a band of people that is just barely good enough to handle what is around you and you all gotta do your part to keep destroying the dungeon. When I get in those groups I fully commit to sacrifice all aspects of my actual humanity to NOT be the person to leave first and break it. Thats why I end up soloing a lot because I really do put my life on the line when I get in a group. I'm gunna go the distance for you fucks.

[Snaggles]

Assuming the paineel summoning quests are active it’s an easy faction grind. I believe my cleric did them at dubious faction (MQ’ed with my druid). In fact, I might have just invised up to the quest mobs. I also got the Inny’s symbol.

Between the robe option, neck and helm a human cleric is really nice. That helm is instant click and a solid junk buff/GCD clicky.

So...I just remembered this old post and it’s incorrect. I borked the shield MQ. The helm was successful but I looted each item on the cleric (so no MQ) after killing with the Druid. Just parked them close together. Besides a little warrens killing with the cleric I did no faction work. I believe I was dubious but might have been apprehensive. I’ve heard that MQ’ing is possible and chanced it on the shield, oh well.

Sorry for the late recollection (prob posting tipsy...). Someone pointed this out and it stirred the memory.