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Freakish
10-17-2020, 08:30 PM
Hello pals,

I see we've been playing the same game for 5 years now and I had an idea. Let's go for a Sleeper's Tomb sweep. The guild that can FTE and kill all 3 golems is the guild that deserves the best.

To make it interesting I'm putting up my Sceptre of Destruction as a prize. Here's how it works.

Starting November 01, 2020 12:01 AM EST the 3 ST Golems will reward each guild with 4 spots in my /random. After all 3 golems are dead, each guild or coalition will tally their kills and give me the names of 4 warriors per golem that they killed. At the end of it I will do a /random between the names provided. The names provided must be level 60 warriors with an ST key who can zone in to collect the prize.

This means I might get 4 names from Freedom, 4 from Kittens and 4 from Dawn Believers. I would then assign a name to each number, /random 1-12 and the person assigned to that number wins. The more golems you kill, the more your guild gets an opportunity at winning.


Why Such a Convoluted Method to /random?

This way you have 3 methods of variability in your chance to win.

You must win the mob. This requires help from your guild.
Your guild must decide your warrior is one of the ones eligible for rolling. Hopefully this weeds out some of the alt warriors who don't actually play their characters.
You must defeat chance with a dice roll.


Briefs, your contest is stupid. We are going to ignore you, work together and take the sceptre from the winner then auction it off in EC for plat

Fantastic! I don't care how I get the 12 names. I will give the sceptre to the person who wins the roll. However, I believe you are all much too competitive to take this as anything but a challenge.

Can we pick a different class than warrior for the random?

No. I will only hand the Sceptre over to a level 60 warrior inside of Sleeper's Tomb. This is to prevent guilds from only allowing their top dkp hoarding toons a chance at taking what won't come around again.

Shenanigans happened! My guild was disqualified from these golems and it's just not fair!

If there happens to be a guild that is forced to make a concede or disqualified from the golems occuring on this date we can move it. If something happens during these golem kills that scream shenanigans and is unfair another method of distribution will be considered.

Ok. Why?

I don't play much these days, let someone who enjoys the game more than I wield some legacy loot.


Last point, I don't plan on policing who kills what. I don't pay attention to these forums much anymore. I am relying on guild representatives to post who got kills on this. Once all 3 golems are dead please post here and we can decide a time to do the roll.

k9quaint
10-17-2020, 09:23 PM
Bard weapon.

Caball
10-17-2020, 11:01 PM
What a homie move! If I could suggest one small change, it would be to require those warriors to be of the Troll race. No other race of warrior really deserves such an item, as we all are aware trolls are the superior race as far as warriors are concerned. Even more specific, only purple-eyed trolls are eligible, for the same reason stated before. Good luck to all contestants!

Solist
10-18-2020, 06:40 AM
Bravo to one of the best dudes around.

remen
10-18-2020, 08:19 AM
Very cool idea and contest, bravo!

Ashenden
10-18-2020, 11:30 AM
Some warrior gon be happy. Cool.

Zipity
10-18-2020, 12:19 PM
Big props to you!

Tunabros
10-19-2020, 02:53 PM
Big props to you!

Damarous
10-19-2020, 03:21 PM
woop woop. Can't wait to see the 3 (or is it 4?) active guilds in ST random off some loot

Evia
10-19-2020, 03:37 PM
This is one of the coolest eq giveaway events I’ve seen. Awesome of OP.

xdrcfrx
10-19-2020, 03:57 PM
woop woop. Can't wait to see the 3 (or is it 4?) active guilds in ST random off some loot

technically: 4 - R, AG, F, KWSM;

practically: 3 - R, AG, F;

realistically: 2 - R, AG / F.

AG/F claim to operate independently in ST, but this point is debatable imo. Not trying to turn this into an RNF thread about sleepers (i think there's one of them already still on page 1 over in that forum). Realistically, the raffle going to be between R, AG, and F. KWSM clears trash from time to time, and has even killed a named, but likely lacks the infrastructure to really contest any of the named golems in the context of a race.

Tunabros
10-19-2020, 04:00 PM
technically: 4 - R, AG, F, KWSM;

practically: 3 - R, AG, F;

realistically: 2 - R, AG / F.

AG/F claim to operate independently in ST, but this point is debatable imo. Not trying to turn this into an RNF thread about sleepers (i think there's one of them already still on page 1 over in that forum). Realistically, the raffle going to be between R, AG, and F. KWSM clears trash from time to time, and has even killed a named, but likely lacks the infrastructure to really contest any of the named golems in the context of a race.

Havnet been on blue for a while but what happened to Anonymous?

remen
10-19-2020, 04:02 PM
Havnet been on blue for a while but what happened to Anonymous?

Nobody can find them.

Fammaden
10-19-2020, 04:44 PM
I don't even know who they are.

Trzzle
10-19-2020, 05:20 PM
God I hope <The Best> wins!

If only they had a 60 WAR

Grumph
10-19-2020, 10:29 PM
Are you sure we can't just have a competition where

we all try to make the best work of art possible

using

corpses?

condap99
10-20-2020, 01:11 AM
Well. Looks like I'll take a day off work to win the cycle. Cheers.

Smurflogik
10-20-2020, 04:52 AM
Havnet been on blue for a while but what happened to Anonymous?

Most of the raiders that wanted to stay on blue joined Riot. A few joined Homeland, and the rest headed to green. There are still a few ex-Anonymous traipsing about on blue.

Brocode
10-20-2020, 05:58 AM
wheres my mnk iksar guise

Allishia
10-20-2020, 10:04 AM
!

Croco
10-21-2020, 02:32 AM
woooooo grats kittens!

BlindGC
10-21-2020, 03:11 AM
The owner of the SoD can't even zone into ST now. RIP

Was a fun idea though =p

Unless Briefs is still in "The Best" of course. Don't think they're raid banned....yet.

Solist
10-21-2020, 04:12 AM
The owner of the SoD can't even zone into ST now. RIP

Was a fun idea though =p

Unless Briefs is still in "The Best" of course. Don't think they're raid banned....yet.

https://i.imgur.com/1CD7GPk.png

Grats Easily I suppose....

Dreenk317
10-21-2020, 07:39 AM
Grats kittens war on free SoD? Maybe a TSS or two has a key.... idk

Freakish
10-21-2020, 02:00 PM
This is on tentative hold due to recent raid scene developments. If ST is kept competitive we can do it this way, otherwise I'll think of something else.

Trzzle
10-21-2020, 02:42 PM
Whoever does win should also have to face Naxi in a duel of wits.

Nexii
10-21-2020, 02:43 PM
If all else fails you could hold a warrior BOTB at the Arena

Allishia
10-21-2020, 07:34 PM
Just realized who you are, do not do it! you are the only person who ever let me play with an sod! please dont give it away, i want to borrow it again one day /nod

Croco
10-21-2020, 08:30 PM
This is on tentative hold due to recent raid scene developments. If ST is kept competitive we can do it this way, otherwise I'll think of something else.

Boo urns on changing the rules after the start of the contest, teach the banned guilds a lesson imo, they took themselves out of contention through their own actions.

Freakish
11-29-2020, 03:33 PM
Changed to First 3 named ST golems that spawn after December 8 12:01 AM EST. That will land after any suspensions are over which gives everyone a fair shot.


It was delayed so long due to windows being all over the place. I had been waiting on the suspension to finish and then a quake to reset everything so guilds weren't forced to spread themselves thin over tracking my contest.

Grumph
11-29-2020, 05:14 PM
Tis a noble quest indeed good sir.

condap99
12-02-2020, 01:43 AM
I am looking forward to this.

remen
12-02-2020, 06:08 AM
Love it, thanks so much for putting on this event, there will never be another like it and I can't wait to see what happens

Grumph
12-05-2020, 05:07 PM
This way you have 3 methods of variability in your chance to win.

You must win the mob. This requires help from your guild.
Your guild must decide your warrior is one of the ones eligible for rolling. Hopefully this weeds out some of the alt warriors who don't actually play their characters.
You must defeat chance with a dice roll.




Hey I've got a question:

So let's say a guild wins all 3 golems.
And a warrior is one of said guild's 4 chosen reps for all 3 kills.
Does that mean that warrior would have 3 chances out of twelve?


Second question:

Do you support a guild deciding that the SoD goes to someone via DKP bidding - or must it specifically go to the random winner?

Sub Question: If a guild wanted to exercise their DKP system on this task. Would you prefer that participants spend DKP (within guild) to be chosen (by their guild) to receive one of the 4 available slots when they secure a kill?

Freakish
12-06-2020, 09:01 AM
Hey I've got a question:

So let's say a guild wins all 3 golems.
And a warrior is one of said guild's 4 chosen reps for all 3 kills.
Does that mean that warrior would have 3 chances out of twelve?


Second question:

Do you support a guild deciding that the SoD goes to someone via DKP bidding - or must it specifically go to the random winner?

Sub Question: If a guild wanted to exercise their DKP system on this task. Would you prefer that participants spend DKP (within guild) to be chosen (by their guild) to receive one of the 4 available slots when they secure a kill?

I need 12 unique warrior names for my random. I do not care what you do with it once I hand it to the winner; whether he keeps it or has an internal agreement to auction it off in some other method.

When all 3 golems are dead I'll ask the winning guilds to give me a time that works for the random. It will be a very simple affair, log in at xx:00 and /random 1-12. The winner will need to be able to be contacted to log in to collect, they do not have to be present for the roll.

Fammaden
12-07-2020, 11:50 AM
Changed to First 3 named ST golems that spawn after December 8 12:01 AM EST. That will land after any suspensions are over which gives everyone a fair shot.


It was delayed so long due to windows being all over the place. I had been waiting on the suspension to finish and then a quake to reset everything so guilds weren't forced to spread themselves thin over tracking my contest.

They are all going to be in window today, with high possibility that at least one will be dead before midnight. Was the 8th a typo? Freedom's suspension was over at midnight on today the 7th.

Just wanted clarification since the ST guilds are wondering if this contest is live with the three windows today the 7th.

These are also about as tightly packed as ST windows tend to get these days, they are sure to spread out significantly after this cycle, since you mentioned that as part of your reasoning for delays.

Ripqozko
12-07-2020, 12:54 PM
Good luck on dkp bids after you win the roll my freedom pals. Would be a ashame to win roll only to lose to dkp.

Freakish
12-07-2020, 02:06 PM
It's not a mistake. I didn't want one spawning at 11:50, guilds racing and pulling it in then stalling for 15 minutes in order to cheese an easy golem win.

Fammaden
12-07-2020, 02:48 PM
Pretty sure the other guilds would call them out on a stall based on raid rules for that but ok.

Fammaden
12-07-2020, 05:25 PM
So what if two golems die before midnight? Have to wait for the first two spawns of the next cycle after this one?

Hideousclaw
12-07-2020, 06:34 PM
Really excited to see this play out. This should be exciting and fun!

White_knight
12-07-2020, 07:23 PM
Good stuff.

Freakish
12-07-2020, 07:49 PM
First 3 named golems to spawn and die after 12:01 AM EST on December 8, 2020. Guilds can work together, separately. Does not matter.

In a couple days someone will have a shiny new toy! \o/

condap99
12-08-2020, 02:04 AM
Contest is live.

Currently streaming my pending victory.

Croco
12-08-2020, 02:51 AM
TFA down, grats Riot.

Drakborn
12-08-2020, 03:09 AM
Hey Briefs - quick question.

Due to timings, there is a [small] chance that TFA spawns again before MoTG. Is your intention to have this based on the first 3 ST raid mobs after that time? For example: TFA, Prog, TFA again...

Or the first three unique mobs? For example: TFA, Prog, MoTG

I appreciate the clarification! We're having a ton of fun with this event!!

Freakish
12-08-2020, 06:33 AM
it goes whichever the first 3 named golems that spawn. It's possible that it's two TFA, one motg and zero prog.

condap99
12-08-2020, 09:24 AM
Another question -

Hypothetically - say someone was knowingly breaking server rules to win FTE. Maybe they get caught by GMs, maybe they don't. Whatever happens w/ the primal plat is meaningless because the real loot is this SoD lottery from you.

What's your take there? DQ? No-CSR? All's fair?

Freakish
12-08-2020, 10:01 AM
Take it to GMs like you would anything else. If a rule is broken on one of the three golems, that golem is just going to be re-raced.

Hopefully all competing guilds will just agree to redoing that race instead of bothering the GMs if it's a minor infraction.

KansasComrade
12-08-2020, 06:48 PM
Another question -

Hypothetically - say someone was knowingly breaking server rules to win FTE. Maybe they get caught by GMs, maybe they don't. Whatever happens w/ the primal plat is meaningless because the real loot is this SoD lottery from you.

What's your take there? DQ? No-CSR? All's fair?

HYPOTHETICALLY, of course.

Kaitainz
12-08-2020, 09:52 PM
Another question -

Hypothetically - say someone was knowingly breaking server rules to win FTE. Maybe they get caught by GMs, maybe they don't. Whatever happens w/ the primal plat is meaningless because the real loot is this SoD lottery from you.

What's your take there? DQ? No-CSR? All's fair?

Hypothetically, if a person is suspended, then plays another bot, that's cool and good sportsmanship, after getting suspended for dirty play, right, HYPOTHETICALLY. ROFL

Drakborn
12-10-2020, 03:34 PM
TFA - Riot
Prog - AG/F
MoTG - Riot

Good races everyone! Lots of fun.

Grumph
12-10-2020, 04:04 PM
Who got Trak?

Toryas
12-10-2020, 04:13 PM
Who got Trak?

Grats Kittens.

Ripqozko
12-10-2020, 04:32 PM
Grats drulok on sod

Nexii
12-10-2020, 04:50 PM
Grats drulok on sod

Or Detoxx

Freakish
12-10-2020, 05:44 PM
I rolled a 7. Who was that?

Freakish
12-10-2020, 05:46 PM
Roll will happen on Sunday December 13 at 5:00 pm EST in Sleepers Tomb. Winner will need to be able to log in and collect. You must meet all criteria.

Level 60
Warrior
ST Keyed

Good luck!

Freakish
12-13-2020, 05:43 PM
15 minutes to go until roll.

eladrimar
12-13-2020, 06:02 PM
Grats Firenze! Amazing event you did here Briefs.

kaizersoze
12-13-2020, 06:08 PM
Grats Firenze! Amazing event you did here Briefs.

Super cool guy - glad he's going to put it to good use :)

Freakish
12-13-2020, 06:10 PM
Congrats to Firenze <Riot> on your new Sceptre. I hope everyone had fun even if you didn't win!

https://i.imgur.com/bP2Jylc.png

Toryas
12-13-2020, 06:11 PM
Great event and a great guy to receive it. Thanks for the excitement Briefs!

Nexii
12-13-2020, 06:13 PM
Grats Firenze. The EQ gods know.

Hideousclaw
12-13-2020, 06:19 PM
Gratz Firenze! Enjoy the new toy! Thanks Briefs for bringing some excitement to ST

hotkarlmarxbros
12-13-2020, 07:03 PM
Fun event. thx briefs and grats firenze!

Tunabros
12-13-2020, 07:20 PM
wow huge gratz to him!

Firenze
12-14-2020, 01:05 PM
Huge thanks to Briefs for putting together this super fun, competitive twist on ST. Thanks to my friends in Riot for going hard for these golems during Briefs' competition. Also thanks to RNGesus for finally letting the 1 that always seems to roll for me take home the W.

The day I quit P99 (again), I'll set up another SoD competition with the same rules as Briefs to pay it forward.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/475131319009935383/787803529984868352/unknown.png

Thanks everyone for the (mostly) congratulatory messages! :)

kjs86z
12-14-2020, 01:40 PM
Grats Firenze!

Vizax_Xaziv
02-17-2021, 08:12 PM
LOL

Nirgon
02-19-2021, 01:37 PM
Yayyyy free items

Ennewi
02-19-2021, 03:42 PM
The only items that aren't free are from RMT.

Nirgon
02-19-2021, 05:20 PM
Anything you work for, isn't free. Regardless of monetary transfer.

Who cares, grats winner. Simply noting the sentiment and interests of the many.

Croco
02-19-2021, 05:28 PM
blue server continuing to live rent free in nirgon's head

Ennewi
02-19-2021, 07:24 PM
Anything you work for, isn't free. Regardless of monetary transfer.

Who cares, grats winner. Simply noting the sentiment and interests of the many.

Those socks won't fill themselves!