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Kennie
09-12-2020, 08:55 PM
I parsed these out on a lvl 60 monk against a green mob up to 25k damage. I was totally unbuffed, 159 str.

Epic Fist + Scepter of Mastery was the weakest at 62.7 DPS.

Blam Stick + Scepter of Mastery was 63.9 DPS.

Tstaff was the winner at 71.4 DPS. It still wins even if you remove the proc damage with a dps of 68.2.

Hope this helps.

Penish
09-14-2020, 09:56 AM
Thank you for the Kunark DPS chart, helpful.

Zipity
09-14-2020, 10:39 AM
This another Bloodmaw parse on a level 20 mob with sub 150ac?

Baler
09-14-2020, 01:06 PM
Sort of on the topic... I advise against using Tstaff at raids due to the One Hundred Blows proc having stun and damage. This generates a large amount of aggro and it's possible to pull a target off the tank and onto the monk who so poorly decided to 'lazily' get more dps by using a tstaff.
Which can lead to the monk getting killed, rogues lossing dps on the target and the tank scrambling to figure out whats going on.

Arvan
09-14-2020, 01:28 PM
Stopped reading at green mob

Baler
09-14-2020, 01:31 PM
Stopped reading at green mob

So here is the thing... Testing should be done against multiple targets.
Green, even con, yellow and red.
High AC target, Low AC target
etc

There is actually a difference in dps with say 2h vs 1h when fighting a high AC target.
So the information in the OP could be useful but it's a piece of the puzzle.

GinnasP99
09-14-2020, 02:23 PM
piece of the puzzle.

Hey speaking of puzzles, check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3970OOxtdk

Kennie
09-14-2020, 02:46 PM
Thank you for the Kunark DPS chart, helpful.

Blam and SoM are Velious. D- troll.

Kennie
09-14-2020, 02:47 PM
Stopped reading at green mob

Big eye roll.

Jibartik
09-14-2020, 04:45 PM
Big eye roll.

green mobs give higher damage weapons an advantage in parsing I would guess, but I am iksar brained so I have no idea if that is true, but my scales tingling makes me think that's true.

Pint
09-16-2020, 12:27 AM
Parsing casual monk wpns on a green seems fine, anyone raiding with those probably knows their dps sucks

DMN
09-16-2020, 06:44 PM
Have you guys tried the hidden fist technique for the 2handers ? imagine it would be tough to employ with the faster 2handers.

Issar
09-16-2020, 10:13 PM
Have you guys tried the hidden fist technique for the 2handers ?

That line reminds me of this girl I knew in college...

kaizersoze
09-18-2020, 04:14 PM
The thing about blam stick is it's main hand only. On old world / kunark mobs with way less AC it will do well, but on velious mobs that have way higher AC, it's DPS falls off considerably since the MH bonus comes into play more and your epic fist would out pace it significantly once that stacks up.

Tigerstyle Wutangfist
09-20-2020, 05:39 PM
Blue con rats in Hole (they are all blue to 60) seemed to parse best epic fist/sos, over all common other options. Blam, SoM, Ada Club/Cdok stunner, IFS, Tstaff, hammer of battle.

Hammer is super popular with monks on red.

Don't have firsthand data, but would love to see someone do an indepth on what to use if you have these options against your average mob (juggs, arena mobs, exp grps)