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Ahldagor
08-17-2020, 12:41 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammon

Are we now in the age of Mammon? Mega church preachers preach that God wants us to be wealthy while Jesus argued other wise. People are idolizing the Bezos, Gates, Slim, Buffet, etc. levels of wealth. There's consistent bribery and lobbying throughout the governments of the world.

Topgunben
08-17-2020, 01:02 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammon

Are we now in the age of Mammon? Mega church preachers preach that God wants us to be wealthy while Jesus argued other wise. People are idolizing the Bezos, Gates, Slim, Buffet, etc. levels of wealth. There's consistent bribery and lobbying throughout the governments of the world.

I think the idea of willfully being poor is preposterous and does go against what Jesus taught.

However, there does seem to be some confusion or convolution in the new testament. For example Matthew 19:24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. But in a different scripture, Matthew 25:14 a servant is looked at as foolish for not investing his money properly to make more, whereas another servant is looked at as good and faithful because he magnified his money. Yet again, a rich young ruler comes to Jesus, and says he has kept all the commandments - what lack I yet? Jesus tells him to sell all that he has and give it to the poor.

The Israelites wanted to be able to "put away" their wives, so the law of divorce was instituted by moses. The israelites wanted a king, so prophets were overshadowed by kings. Likewise, people want to retain their possessions, so capitalism prevails.

The other looming factor is that many parts of the bible are not meant to be taken literally, and sometimes they are meant to be taken quite literally.

Gwaihir
08-17-2020, 01:20 PM
*implying you have the moral underpinnings and conviction to espouse anything from the Bible*

zodium
08-17-2020, 03:53 PM
yes, OP

thinking about the time the apostles formed a socialist commune and this couple Ananias and Sapphira tried to hide some of their wealth from the apostles, and Saint Peter stone cold killed the both of them.

Patriam1066
08-17-2020, 04:10 PM
Despite covid, seems like a fairly good time to be alive! I’m sure some of you think there was a better time in the past, but then again most of you are diabetic and obese (and unemployed) and aren’t paid to think

zodium
08-17-2020, 04:12 PM
Despite covid, seems like a fairly good time to be alive! I’m sure some of you think there was a better time in the past, but then again most of you are diabetic and obese (and unemployed) and aren’t paid to think

seek christ.

Patriam1066
08-17-2020, 04:14 PM
Marx opposed Christ, his ideas must necessarily die (and those who follow him be consumed in the lake of fire)

Evia
08-17-2020, 04:34 PM
This Marx guy sounds like a real asshole.
Jesus is like the nicest person ever.

Trexller
08-17-2020, 05:03 PM
Marx opposed Christ, his ideas must necessarily die (and those who follow him be consumed in the lake of fire)

Religion is always chastised or forbidden under a communist regime.

There can be no higher power than the state.

Burn your bible and read your little red book.

Jibartik
08-17-2020, 07:51 PM
I think the idea of willfully being poor is preposterous and does go against what Jesus taught.

However, there does seem to be some confusion or convolution in the new testament. For example Matthew 19:24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. But in a different scripture, Matthew 25:14 a servant is looked at as foolish for not investing his money properly to make more, whereas another servant is looked at as good and faithful because he magnified his money. Yet again, a rich young ruler comes to Jesus, and says he has kept all the commandments - what lack I yet? Jesus tells him to sell all that he has and give it to the poor.

The Israelites wanted to be able to "put away" their wives, so the law of divorce was instituted by moses. The israelites wanted a king, so prophets were overshadowed by kings. Likewise, people want to retain their possessions, so capitalism prevails.

The other looming factor is that many parts of the bible are not meant to be taken literally, and sometimes they are meant to be taken quite literally.

https://youtu.be/33AoJDIh3kw I recommend this movie :o

Synopsis: A teacher after 10 years is leaving abruptly to move to a new home and job, and his friends show up to wish him well on his new journey. They get to talking. If you like Plox (https://static3.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Star-Trek-Phlox.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=740&h=370&dpr=1.5) from star trek, its his very own movie!

Woke Locc
08-17-2020, 08:59 PM
Mammon under red team, Kali under blue team.

zodium
08-18-2020, 12:51 AM
marx was only a man. if he had been writing today, he would have written "the media is the opium of the masses."

https://i.imgur.com/u8bGJer.jpg

once religion was no longer a power, capitalism privatized and monetized it too.

Woke Locc
08-18-2020, 01:04 AM
marx was only a man. if he had been writing today, he would have written "the media is the opium of the masses."

https://i.imgur.com/u8bGJer.jpg

once religion was no longer a power, capitalism privatized and monetized it too.

Why not just be mad at Protestants instead of burning shit down??

zodium
08-18-2020, 01:18 AM
Why not just be mad at Protestants instead of burning shit down??

there are lots of books you can read on this, as well as youtubes and twitches for the young ppl who dont read. but basically its because the problem is ppl worshipping private property, not ppl worshipping jesus, op.

Patriam1066
08-18-2020, 01:25 AM
marx was only a man. if he had been writing today, he would have written "the media is the opium of the masses."

https://i.imgur.com/u8bGJer.jpg

once religion was no longer a power, capitalism privatized and monetized it too.

And yet he lived in London

He could just be a not intelligent Jewish man who resented Christianity and was wrong about everything he ever wrote

I’m guessing you could be placated with UBI Zodium. If you desire the destruction of the rich in addition to a check, your soul is already lost as you’re as evil as those you’d replace. Seek Christ, the only Jew worthy of your adulation

zodium
08-18-2020, 01:40 AM
And yet he lived in London

He could just be a not intelligent Jewish man who resented Christianity and was wrong about everything he ever wrote

I’m guessing you could be placated with UBI Zodium. If you desire the destruction of the rich in addition to a check, your soul is already lost as you’re as evil as those you’d replace. Seek Christ, the only Jew worthy of your adulation

I have lived and worked a full and fulfilling life, and as one looks back, one sees one's efforts amount to little more than a hobby compared to the wealth extracted at the system level by the so-called power of compound interest on the wealth "created" by previous generations, much like I now see my father no doubt realized. every day I wake up and hope today will be the day the workers cast off their chains, seize my properties and put me against the wall; purge me of my sins, sins I haven't the strength to atone for, that no mortal man can atone for. and every day, I am crushingly disappointed.

yes, I am damned; yes, I am lost. all who willingly and knowingly participate in the cult of mammon are. I will not be placated by anything short of salvation.

Jimjam
08-18-2020, 01:56 AM
Corps
Media
Police
Politicians
People

Is the above the new pyramid?

Patriam1066
08-18-2020, 02:30 AM
I have lived and worked a full and fulfilling life, and as one looks back, one sees one's efforts amount to little more than a hobby compared to the wealth extracted at the system level by the so-called power of compound interest on the wealth "created" by previous generations, much like I now see my father no doubt realized. every day I wake up and hope today will be the day the workers cast off their chains, seize my properties and put me against the wall; purge me of my sins, sins I haven't the strength to atone for, that no mortal man can atone for. and every day, I am crushingly disappointed.

yes, I am damned; yes, I am lost. all who willingly and knowingly participate in the cult of mammon are. I will not be placated by anything short of salvation.

It’s always been like that buddy, but at least now immigrants and the poor have some modicum of social mobility. I am an immigrant. My daughter-in-law is from El Salvador. Dirt fucking poor family. She will inherit wealth via me and my son.

My nephew is half white half persian, my sisters son. My sister works in finance, she’s been wealthy most of her adult life. Her ex husband is a redneck opioid addict from Kentucky. He was horrible to my sister and my nephew. My nephew grew up in a fucked up environment thanks to the piece of shit from Kentucky, and had I known what was happening at the time, I probably would’ve murdered him at my ranch and made sure his body was never found. I digress. My nephew has worked through all of the bull shit and made himself into an anesthesiologist. He refused financial help from either me or his mother. He’s married to a woman who appears to be a really good person. I’m happy for him

I wonder what our stories would’ve been in Iran. I wonder what our stories would’ve looked like in China. I don’t know that it’s fair that my nephew will be extremely wealthy, since medicine is a cartel whose prices are “negotiated” by the AMA, but I can’t deny his labor, or mine, my sister’s, my daughter-in-law’s. I’m not convinced our system is structurally evil. It is true that there is a class of dickheads siphoning wealth off the top. A thousand years ago, Jared Kushner would be sucking dick on the street corner. How we correct those excesses without destroying the social mobility for, and this is important, THOSE WHO ARE WILLING TO WORK is a question not merely answered by economics, but will also require a morality component

Kentucky delenda est

zodium
08-18-2020, 03:07 AM
It’s always been like that buddy, but at least now immigrants and the poor have some modicum of social mobility. I am an immigrant. My daughter-in-law is from El Salvador. Dirt fucking poor family. She will inherit wealth via me and my son.

My nephew is half white half persian, my sisters son. My sister works in finance, she’s been wealthy most of her adult life. Her ex husband is a redneck opioid addict from Kentucky. He was horrible to my sister and my nephew. My nephew grew up in a fucked up environment thanks to the piece of shit from Kentucky, and had I known what was happening at the time, I probably would’ve murdered him at my ranch and made sure his body was never found. I digress. My nephew has worked through all of the bull shit and made himself into an anesthesiologist. He refused financial help from either me or his mother. He’s married to a woman who appears to be a really good person. I’m happy for him

I wonder what our stories would’ve been in Iran. I wonder what our stories would’ve looked like in China. I don’t know that it’s fair that my nephew will be extremely wealthy, since medicine is a cartel whose prices are “negotiated” by the AMA, but I can’t deny his labor, or mine, my sister’s, my daughter-in-law’s. I’m not convinced our system is structurally evil. It is true that there is a class of dickheads siphoning wealth off the top. A thousand years ago, Jared Kushner would be sucking dick on the street corner. How we correct those excesses without destroying the social mobility for, and this is important, THOSE WHO ARE WILLING TO WORK is a question not merely answered by economics, but will also require a morality component

Kentucky delenda est

the opium wars. the overthrow of the shah. your brethren in iran and china suffer still under the yoke, and still you cheer for the empire. did not the empire throw your home into chaos? did not the empire cause your family's flight to begin with? still you cheer, still you effuse enthusiasm over the prospects of imperialism, furious defence of it and painting it in the brightest colors. pathetic.

you will die a thousand deaths. your only reward, damnation.

Patriam1066
08-18-2020, 03:19 AM
I don’t support imperialism against Iran. Doesn’t negate anything I said. China is being imperialistic right now. Hell, so is Iran towards much of the Shiite Middle East

American imperialism has fought HIV. Chinese imperialism forces hysterectomies on Muslim women. Hope this helps, it really is that simple and binary

zodium
08-18-2020, 03:38 AM
I don’t support imperialism against Iran. Doesn’t negate anything I said. China is being imperialistic right now. Hell, so is Iran towards much of the Shiite Middle East

American imperialism has fought HIV. Chinese imperialism forces hysterectomies on Muslim women. Hope this helps, it really is that simple and binary

there is no "american" or "chinese" imperialism. in every nation, in every place, the faithful and the innocent and the planet itself suffer as one, while the wicked are free to do evil. we have made nigh universal the unforgivable sin. if we have not broken the covenant, we have failed it so comprehensively it is a distinction without a difference.

indeed, as many later communist writers have noted, marx's own thought was rooted in a christian faith. but like us, he lived through worship of mammon and all its associated horrors. his was a deeply and bitterly betrayed faith. did you know a very young karl marx wrote an essay titled The Union of Believers With Christ According to John 15: 1-14, Showing its Basis and Essence, its Absolute Necessity, and its Effects (https://marxists.catbull.com/archive/marx/works/1837-pre/marx/1835chris.htm)? likely not. there is a reason marx's writings track the central teachings of jesus' so closely, stripped of tribalism and imperial ambition; their central philosophical difference revolving more around materialism versus idealism--the means of arriving at the outcomes they ultimately agreed on--and, of course, that marx was merely a mortal man.

Gwaihir
08-18-2020, 11:33 AM
the opium wars. the overthrow of the shah. your brethren in iran and china suffer still under the yoke

No one suffers when they take up Christ's yoke, for he is gentle and the burden is light; bringing peace to one's soul. (Matthew 11:29)

Hope this helps, heathen.

imperiouskitten
08-18-2020, 03:36 PM
I open up my wallet and it's full of blood

imperiouskitten
08-18-2020, 04:49 PM
I open up my wallet and it's full of blood

like overflowing lmao #swag #godisgood

imperiouskitten
08-18-2020, 04:52 PM
there is no "american" or "chinese" imperialism. in every nation, in every place, the faithful and the innocent and the planet itself suffer as one, while the wicked are free to do evil. we have made nigh universal the unforgivable sin. if we have not broken the covenant, we have failed it so comprehensively it is a distinction without a difference.

indeed, as many later communist writers have noted, marx's own thought was rooted in a christian faith. but like us, he lived through worship of mammon and all its associated horrors. his was a deeply and bitterly betrayed faith. did you know a very young karl marx wrote an essay titled The Union of Believers With Christ According to John 15: 1-14, Showing its Basis and Essence, its Absolute Necessity, and its Effects (https://marxists.catbull.com/archive/marx/works/1837-pre/marx/1835chris.htm)? likely not. there is a reason marx's writings track the central teachings of jesus' so closely, stripped of tribalism and imperial ambition; their central philosophical difference revolving more around materialism versus idealism--the means of arriving at the outcomes they ultimately agreed on--and, of course, that marx was merely a mortal man.

don't bother with them. they all fell for my pro-trump parody persona. the board was left wing before that. yes, i am sorry; but my mission was to attract you and be debunked! you arrived so late! however i am reading gratefully.

Trexller
08-18-2020, 05:02 PM
Taking bets on who this obvious alt forum account is: imperiouskitten

Bigsham
08-18-2020, 05:31 PM
i bet its a forum tranny !

Ripqozko
08-18-2020, 06:10 PM
I actually literally just made $15,000 and I'm in a much better mood! *peels out spraying all with mud*

Lol, consider reality.

Trexller
08-18-2020, 06:20 PM
i bet its a forum tranny !

sounds like one of em. Has that attention whoring, over compensating, aspirant precocious tone.

imperiouskitten
08-18-2020, 07:18 PM
the miracles are hard to believe especially from afar I admit. in fact sometimes I get pretty solipsistic about my unbelievable life story. Ask my smiling husband. I did the math more like 20 ^_____^

never would have made it were I "employed" and too busy at the altar of Mammon! The traditional family wins again! Sending him to law school.

Woke Locc
08-18-2020, 07:32 PM
Ask my smiling husband.

how is ol' ponce de Leonid Brezhnev?

imperiouskitten
08-18-2020, 07:37 PM
how is ol' ponce de Leonid Brezhnev?

he likes his new wardrobe!

BarnabusCollins
08-18-2020, 08:52 PM
One cannot serve God and mammon; one will cling to one and hate the other

Woke Locc
08-18-2020, 10:19 PM
One cannot serve God and mammon; one will cling to one and hate the other

Question for the scholars - are Mammon and usury the same beast?

Patriam1066
08-19-2020, 02:03 AM
Usury probably should be outlawed. I agree with Zodium on that!

zodium
08-19-2020, 03:22 AM
Question for the scholars - are Mammon and usury the same beast?

im a sinner, not a scholar, but to my understanding, usury is loaning out money with interest, while "Mammon" is worship of money. not like, ppl getting down on their knees in front of a fat stack of benjamins. its ppl who talk about "compound interest" like its a divine wealth creating force, and not a human wealth extraction system based on usury.

Usury probably should be outlawed. I agree with Zodium on that!

it was always illegal. we don't have the power to make usury "legal" in the first place. we've just built our society in open defiance of the law.

Lune
08-19-2020, 08:27 AM
Christians used to think you'd go to hell for being satisfied with your accomplishments and wearing nice clothes. Cenodoxus burned in eternal hellfire even though he was a kind and generous man because he was too successful and aware of it. Of course, kings and nobles could pay the Catholic church for their absolution to get around this, but there was still a several-hundred year period of Spanish nobles memeing around Europe dressed as homeless men to prove their humility in the eyes of God.

"He who is humbled shall be exalted" - Peter

I'm really not quite sure how modern Christians reconcile their lives with the actual reality of their religion. Most people aren't actually stupid so deep down they have to see the contradictions. I guess it took nearly a millennium of ideological creep as their religion was passed from culture to culture, each one adapting it and imprinting their values on it.

1,500 years ago I'd have totally jumped on the bandwagon and worshiped cynic-Jesus even if I knew deep down he was just a man, because the message was so good. But today's capitalist Jesus? yikes

Snortles Chortles
08-19-2020, 10:00 AM
https://i.imgur.com/Yw8NxDR.jpg

Patriam1066
08-19-2020, 01:20 PM
Christians used to think you'd go to hell for being satisfied with your accomplishments and wearing nice clothes. Cenodoxus burned in eternal hellfire even though he was a kind and generous man because he was too successful and aware of it. Of course, kings and nobles could pay the Catholic church for their absolution to get around this, but there was still a several-hundred year period of Spanish nobles memeing around Europe dressed as homeless men to prove their humility in the eyes of God.

"He who is humbled shall be exalted" - Peter

I'm really not quite sure how modern Christians reconcile their lives with the actual reality of their religion. Most people aren't actually stupid so deep down they have to see the contradictions. I guess it took nearly a millennium of ideological creep as their religion was passed from culture to culture, each one adapting it and imprinting their values on it.

1,500 years ago I'd have totally jumped on the bandwagon and worshiped cynic-Jesus even if I knew deep down he was just a man, because the message was so good. But today's capitalist Jesus? yikes

1500 years ago Justinian was dragging heretical priests from their churches and conquering North Africa in the name of Rome

The second Constantine converted, Christianity was fated to no longer be a religion of asceticism and monasticism. That doesn’t change the fact that if you don’t serve the United States and Jesus Christ that you will roast for eternity

imperiouskitten
08-19-2020, 03:34 PM
Most people aren't actually stupid so deep down they have to see the contradictions.


the operant metrics are bloodthirstiness and stupidity. if they're lacking one they have the other in spades. At this point, the average American is okay with murder. Full stop.

I even investigated the hearts of every forum poster I could. Pokesan and Juris seem to be the only ones decent, and well, Pokesan is dead useless with like 30 level 60s and I am still teaching Juris you can't just liquidate people because they got to eat nice food most of their life.

edit: xaanka turned out good and azzar might be good too.

Woke Locc
08-19-2020, 03:55 PM
1500 years ago Justinian was dragging heretical priests from their churches and conquering North Africa in the name of Rome

The second Constantine converted, Christianity was fated to no longer be a religion of asceticism and monasticism. That doesn’t change the fact that if you don’t serve the United States and Jesus Christ that you will roast for eternity

Anarchist Jesus would be such a |Just| nuisance as to require violence by the State.

Like it or not, we're still a Christian nation.

imperiouskitten
08-19-2020, 05:50 PM
i forgot to mention maskedmelon (OOPS), especially the swashbuckling edition

zodium
08-19-2020, 05:53 PM
1500 years ago Justinian was dragging heretical priests from their churches and conquering North Africa in the name of Rome

The second Constantine converted, Christianity was fated to no longer be a religion of asceticism and monasticism. That doesn’t change the fact that if you don’t serve the United States and Jesus Christ that you will roast for eternity

no one serves Christ and another master.

Cecily
08-20-2020, 06:24 AM
the operant metrics are bloodthirstiness and stupidity. if they're lacking one they have the other in spades. At this point, the average American is okay with murder. Full stop.

I even investigated the hearts of every forum poster I could. Pokesan and Juris seem to be the only ones decent, and well, Pokesan is dead useless with like 30 level 60s and I am still teaching Juris you can't just liquidate people because they got to eat nice food most of their life.

edit: xaanka turned out good and azzar might be good too.

Juris is a good one. Treat him well.

zodium
08-20-2020, 07:25 AM
we are all good ones, comrade cecily, comrade imperiouskitten. god gave all mankind eyes and ears to perceive truth, faculties to comprehend it, and free will to act accordingly and virtuously. there is a plan, but there is not fate: in every action, we choose to sin, by choosing to serve empire, as we choose to be faithful, by choosing to serve christ. we cannot serve both, for we cannot serve christ in sin.

do not assume the lord's sight for yourself so that you may stand in judgment on your comrades. none were given sight into the hearts of men, for that is where the lord put his truth in us. incomprehensible and ineffable to each of us, yet into which any one of us may freely seek shelter from the storm. and yet our blindness is no failing, but rather the very foundation of a perfect and blessed spiritual fortress, a railing which safeguards mankind from falling beyond the reach of salvation, from mammon, from damning himself truly like the morning star. it is precisely thus that every man who is in christ, which any man may freely be, is saved.

go in christ, comrades.

Cecily
08-20-2020, 11:41 AM
I mean, yeah, but he has a nice body. Forgive me, Father, for I have covented my neighbor's ass.

zodium
08-20-2020, 01:29 PM
i tell you, your neighbor's ass is divine. that is the lord's ass, comrade cecily. the lord designed your neighbor's ass. the lord brought the ass to us. the lord breathed life into the ass. as the lord did give you eyes to see the ass, and faculties to perceive its beauty. partake in the ass. but do not covet your neighbor's ass for yourself--for when you covet the ass, it ceases to be an ass at all, turning to mere flesh in your very hands, becoming a dead thing. you must atone. restore to the ass its divinity; once more align your perceptual apparatus to see the ass and to perceive its beauty, not as an object of desire, but as a hot ass.

go in christ.

PieOats
08-20-2020, 01:36 PM
I liked our sunshine better when his vocab was limited to misspellings if DRUMPF and he wasn’t overtly COMMUNIST SCUM!!

imperiouskitten
08-20-2020, 04:57 PM
we are all good ones, comrade cecily, comrade imperiouskitten. god gave all mankind eyes and ears to perceive truth, faculties to comprehend it, and free will to act accordingly and virtuously. there is a plan, but there is not fate: in every action, we choose to sin, by choosing to serve empire, as we choose to be faithful, by choosing to serve christ. we cannot serve both, for we cannot serve christ in sin.

do not assume the lord's sight for yourself so that you may stand in judgment on your comrades. none were given sight into the hearts of men, for that is where the lord put his truth in us. incomprehensible and ineffable to each of us, yet into which any one of us may freely seek shelter from the storm. and yet our blindness is no failing, but rather the very foundation of a perfect and blessed spiritual fortress, a railing which safeguards mankind from falling beyond the reach of salvation, from mammon, from damning himself truly like the morning star. it is precisely thus that every man who is in christ, which any man may freely be, is saved.

go in christ, comrades.

i tell you, your neighbor's ass is divine. that is the lord's ass, comrade cecily. the lord designed your neighbor's ass. the lord brought the ass to us. the lord breathed life into the ass. as the lord did give you eyes to see the ass, and faculties to perceive its beauty. partake in the ass. but do not covet your neighbor's ass for yourself--for when you covet the ass, it ceases to be an ass at all, turning to mere flesh in your very hands, becoming a dead thing. you must atone. restore to the ass its divinity; once more align your perceptual apparatus to see the ass and to perceive its beauty, not as an object of desire, but as a hot ass.

go in christ.

But you said St. Peter killed that couple dead on the spot when their unrepentent reprobacy was detected. If I hear God's voice (and I do) am I not also as a prophet?

imperiouskitten
08-20-2020, 05:34 PM
also (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4o1dc41r28&feature=youtu.be&t=1300)

Woke Locc
08-20-2020, 06:29 PM
I liked our sunshine better when his vocab was limited to misspellings if DRUMPF and he wasn’t overtly COMMUNIST SCUM!!

I would hear from the Windlord on vulgar witnessing before joining the repartee.

zodium
08-21-2020, 06:26 AM
But you said St. Peter killed that couple dead on the spot when their unrepentent reprobacy was detected. If I hear God's voice (and I do) am I not also as a prophet?

i don't know. what is your prophecy?

imperiouskitten
08-21-2020, 10:05 AM
i don't know. what is your prophecy?

they put chips in your hands and you better stay in good standing to buy/sell, surveillance becomes *complete*, the decent person becomes so rare he may go his whole life without meeting another, then neuralink really gets going and my vision gets fuzzy: it's either nuclear hellfire or we get bathed in a really bright white unifying light with one another. Considering how shitty we've proven to be, my personal feeling is that that day will really suck! So I am recommending guns and ammo, and ostracization of the sick sadists among us.

BlackBellamy
08-21-2020, 11:02 AM
no one serves Christ and another master.

Well God and Christ are completely separate entities. I mean they're working together to a common goal, and they're related, but Christ is as discrete a being as God. You know that's true because while people say 'Jesus is God' absolutely no one says 'God is Jesus'. If they were one and the same then the commutative property would apply.

Also, if they were one being then Jesus would possess God's knowledge, and he wouldn't be asking silly question like the one in Matthew 27:46.

So since Jesus and God are separate entities with their own thoughts and agendas, it's very possible to serve two masters at once, especially since their goals clearly converge. I can see you don't follow the True Faith and so are confused. Cast aside the lies and heresy of Luther and come back to the Holy Father. The one in Rome I mean.

Woke Locc
08-21-2020, 11:12 AM
Cast aside the lies and heresy of Luther and come back to the Holy Father.

Gwaihir
08-21-2020, 11:57 AM
Well God and Christ are completely separate entities. I mean they're working together to a common goal, and they're related, but Christ is as discrete a being as God. You know that's true because while people say 'Jesus is God' absolutely no one says 'God is Jesus'. If they were one and the same then the commutative property would apply.

Also, if they were one being then Jesus would possess God's knowledge, and he wouldn't be asking silly question like the one in Matthew 27:46.

So since Jesus and God are separate entities with their own thoughts and agendas, it's very possible to serve two masters at once, especially since their goals clearly converge. I can see you don't follow the True Faith and so are confused. Cast aside the lies and heresy of Luther and come back to the Holy Father. The one in Rome I mean.

The Nicene creed is the orthodox evolution of the pharisees' and sadducees' post-hoc hijacking of the ascetic and monastic fundamentals of Christ's teachings.

Hope this helps.

zodium
08-21-2020, 01:07 PM
they put chips in your hands and you better stay in good standing to buy/sell, surveillance becomes *complete*, the decent person becomes so rare he may go his whole life without meeting another, then neuralink really gets going and my vision gets fuzzy: it's either nuclear hellfire or we get bathed in a really bright white unifying light with one another. Considering how shitty we've proven to be, my personal feeling is that that day will really suck! So I am recommending guns and ammo, and ostracization of the sick sadists among us.

prophecy pertains to the future, not the present.

The Nicene creed is the orthodox evolution of the pharisees' and sadducees' post-hoc hijacking of the ascetic and monastic fundamentals of Christ's teachings.

Hope this helps.

his revolution was betrayed, but never defeated, will never be defeated while men have eyes to see. it returns, again, and again, and again. by the very injustices empire commits, that empire commands men must commit, through our eyes and our hands and into our hearts and souls, so too empire commands us, louder and louder, to seize the means of salvation at once.

Woke Locc
08-21-2020, 02:32 PM
The Nicene creed is the orthodox evolution of the pharisees' and sadducees' post-hoc hijacking of the ascetic and monastic fundamentals of Christ's teachings.

Hope this helps.

https://i.imgur.com/vJqrWRP.jpg

imperiouskitten
08-21-2020, 07:01 PM
prophecy pertains to the future, not the present.



his revolution was betrayed, but never defeated, will never be defeated while men have eyes to see. it returns, again, and again, and again. by the very injustices empire commits, that empire commands men must commit, through our eyes and our hands and into our hearts and souls, so too empire commands us, louder and louder, to seize the means of salvation at once.
'twas as current then as now. The arc of human invention has eternally led to one thing. As you say. And the heretics and inhuman are as visible and shameless now as they were then. They revel openly in their sin.

Envy is particularly relevant here. Since gaining assets that are envied, I have been made privy to profound and murderous ugliness in many people I had chosen to treat decently. I have resolved to stuff their mouths with ash (in Minecraft) above showing another moment's kindness or unfelt solidarity. These are consciousnesses of a fundamentally different character from mine. Another species; a predatory one. Thanks again for the Peter anecdote and don't go soft because you find me threatening :p . I know there are at least 3 functional and decent human beings in the world, and I have stayed pretty isolated all my life -- so there is no need to settle for cannibals.

Still having nightmares about a rapist and stalker I met on this board as recently as last night! Although to be fair, I was stomach sick and I don't know for certain that it was they who pulled my car's gas line.

The Nicene creed is the orthodox evolution of the pharisees' and sadducees' post-hoc hijacking of the ascetic and monastic fundamentals of Christ's teachings.

Hope this helps.

I also love Pastor Ray Hagins :)