The fall of New York City

[Bigsham]

So with all this black lives matter crime ( yes i say crime because they are out basically rioting ) Many wealthy people have left new york and will NEVER come back.

Most companies and small business owners say its no longer worth it to keep a location open in NYC and with daily crime and shootings soaring cops are retiring and running away as fast as they can.

I understand the cause may be just, but if you think its bad now wait a few months

Do you think NYC Will completely collapse?

Vote now for a chance to win a lambo

[Nocht]

What is the unemployment rate for NYC? I feel like you should know this.

[Baler]

Can we just saw off NYC and push it out into the Atlantic Ocean?

[Woke Locc]

Taxes are why they left

1% of NYC pays 50% of New York state taxes

Or paid lol. Hello Wyoming! Gonna see bears n shit

[Trexller]

NYC has been a nasty liberal infested shithole ever since Guiliani stopped being mayor.

Basically any city run by democrats is a third world country in 2020.

Think on your sins dem voters.

[Snortles Chortles]

*proudly pays his taxes for your unemployment SiP*

https://i.imgur.com/vrc367w.jpg

[douglas1999]

The cause isn't just though is the problem. 80% of black people in the country want the same amount or more police presence in their neighborhoods. Defunding and\or abolishing the police is a suicidally dumb idea, *especially* for poor communities.

If you could wave a magic wand and eliminate any racial animus among every police dept in the world, cops would still occassionally have to kill a black dude, like they do every other race, and somebody would film it and put it on facebook, and credulous bored idiots would riot again. There is absolutely zero chance that wouldn't happen.

[Woke Locc]

NYC has been a nasty liberal infested shithole ever since Guiliani stopped being mayor.

Basically any city run by democrats is a third world country in 2020.

Think on your sins dem voters.

Bloomberg was a Republican

[Trexller]

Bloomberg was a Republican

I meant Guiliani specifically not as a party affiliation. Under his terms as mayor he cleaned up the city, figuratively and literally. Crime rates fell to 30 year lows, the piles of trash reduced drastically, as NY US Attorney He led the 1980s federal prosecution of New York City mafia bosses, it goes on.

We have a name for guys like Bloomberg. RINO. Republican in Name Only. During his primary run he proved that to be a fact.

[Baler]

I meant Guiliani specifically not as a party affiliation. Under his terms as mayor he cleaned up the city, figuratively and literally. Crime rates fell to 30 year lows, the piles of trash reduced drastically, as NY US Attorney He led the 1980s federal prosecution of New York City mafia bosses, it goes on.

We have a name for guys like Bloomberg. RINO. Republican in Name Only. During his primary run he proved that to be a fact.

A lot of people don't know that NYC use to be filled with gangs and violence oh and trash. Even if you provided evidence they'd think it was fake, that's how intensely fucked up shit was there.

You have this modern generation that never had to fight the battles of their fathers/mothers and are living in fantasy land.
Pro-NY propaganda, the big apple, the city that doesn't sleep. Has fed into this modern generations thinking that nyc has always been a great happy melting pot of people. Which can't be further from the truth.

The history of NYC is dirty, bloody and disgusting. That's a span of about 50 years. Recent history.

[Woke Locc]

I meant Guiliani specifically not as a party affiliation. Under his terms as mayor he cleaned up the city, figuratively and literally. Crime rates fell to 30 year lows, the piles of trash reduced drastically, as NY US Attorney He led the 1980s federal prosecution of New York City mafia bosses, it goes on.

We have a name for guys like Bloomberg. RINO. Republican in Name Only. During his primary run he proved that to be a fact.

You didn't like his policing program?

[Trexller]

You didn't like his policing program?

While in theory a draconian stop and frisk policy could be effective, but you'd literally have to first racially profile every NYC citizen then utilize thousands more officers which would result in massive civil liberty violations, which it did.

The public relationship with law enforcement crumbled under Bloombergs policies.

I won't condone the actions of the rioters, but I understand them. In any judgement of the world one must consider the other side's view. Don't lie to yourself, this isnt about 5 time felon druggie Floyd or BLM. The sowing of discord is another aspect of making Trump look bad. The president always gets blamed. If the russians invaded in 2010, everyone would blame Obama.

if I had my way we'd be rolling tanks down the streets of Portland, Seattle, NYC etc.


https://i.imgur.com/AI4h0oy.jpg

[Bigsham]

The cause isn't just though is the problem. 80% of black people in the country want the same amount or more police presence in their neighborhoods. Defunding and\or abolishing the police is a suicidally dumb idea, *especially* for poor communities.

If you could wave a magic wand and eliminate any racial animus among every police dept in the world, cops would still occassionally have to kill a black dude, like they do every other race, and somebody would film it and put it on facebook, and credulous bored idiots would riot again. There is absolutely zero chance that wouldn't happen.

On the news there was multiple shootings and when cops arrived they opened fire on them with an AR

They are mad at police , and our president

[Bigsham]

While in theory a draconian stop and frisk policy could be effective, but you'd literally have to first racially profile every NYC citizen then utilize thousands more officers which would result in massive civil liberty violations, which it did.

The public relationship with law enforcement crumbled under Bloombergs policies.

I won't condone the actions of the rioters, but I understand them. In any judgement of the world one must consider the other side's view. Don't lie to yourself, this isnt about 5 time felon druggie Floyd or BLM. The sowing of discord is another aspect of making Trump look bad. The president always gets blamed. If the russians invaded in 2010, everyone would blame Obama.

if I had my way we'd be rolling tanks down the streets of Portland, Seattle, NYC etc.


https://i.imgur.com/AI4h0oy.jpg

National guard were already in almost every city and they had armored vehicles on standby

[Baler]

National guard were already in almost every city and they had armored vehicles on standby

Not exactly. Real example... Seattle mayor called the protests+riots+chaz the equivalent to a block party. Then finally caved after seeing the damage and called the national guard in. Riots and looting went down. Then when the national guard left,. guess what the riots fired back up again..

Jenny Durkan
Elected November 7, 2017.
First lesbian mayor for Seattle.
Democrat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny_Durkan

[Snortles Chortles]

73 year old retiree from 50 population rural town opinion we should care about
(lol)

[Skarne]

His vote matters the same as yours

[Woke Locc]

His vote matters the same as yours

For now (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact)

[Snortles Chortles]

Can we just saw off NYC and push it out into the Atlantic Ocean?

calling for the execution of 18,804,000 Americans is not an opinion that matters skarne

[Baler]

For now (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact)

These same states are run by politicians who make promises to the victim class and are for illegal immigrants voting.

gee what are the chances.

----
Let's look at mexico, people fleeing to find a better life come to america. I would too if I couldn't feed my family, shelter them or find a working toilet.
Now they're in america and can't find a job that pays the amount they'd like. They look to the government to solve their problems.
They are victims and they're being used by politicans to push an AGENDA.

I think it's wrong for politicians to use the victim class to push their political Agenda.
It's been going on for years.

We can not and should not blame the victims. We should be blaming the politicians for failing them and us. And for using them against us.

[Snortles Chortles]

These same states are run by politicians who make promises to the victim class and are for illegal immigrants voting.

gee what are the chances.

----
Let's look at mexico, people fleeing to find a better life come to america. I would too if I couldn't feed my family, shelter them or find a working toilet.
Now they're in america and can't find a job that pays the amount they'd like. They look to the government to solve their problems.
They are victims and they're being used by politicans to push an AGENDA.

https://i.imgur.com/N5tgTJl.gif

[Woke Locc]

These same states are run by politicians who make promises to the victim class and are for illegal immigrants voting.

gee what are the chances.

----
Let's look at mexico, people fleeing to find a better life come to america. I would too if I couldn't feed my family, shelter them or find a working toilet.
Now they're in america and can't find a job that pays the amount they'd like. They look to the government to solve their problems.
They are victims and they're being used by politicans to push an AGENDA.

I think it's wrong for politicians to use the victim class to push their political Agenda.
It's been going on for years.

We can not and should not blame the victims. We should be blaming the politicians for failing them and us. And for using them against us.

what

[Baler]

Snortles Chortles I'm going to ask you nicely publicly to please leave me alone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harassment

[Snortles Chortles]

What's the matter snowflake? NEED A SAFE SPACE? (LOL)

[Trexller]

What's the matter snowflake? NEED A SAFE SPACE? (LOL)

https://i.imgur.com/GWi1kz8.jpg

[Skarne]

calling for the execution of 18,804,000 Americans is not an opinion that matters skarne

Touché mr chortles

[Baler]

Since my joking statement about nyc floating off into the atlantic ocean is a talking point.
I never meant or implied any harm would come to citizens there. My statement was a joke about nyc becoming an island out in the Atlantic ocean. Nothing heinous or hateful.

[Trexller]

calling for the execution of 18,804,000 Americans is not an opinion that matters skarne

Nah dont kill 18 mil. Cordon off the place and then make Kurt Russel fight his way out for our entertainment

https://i.imgur.com/k2euZXQ.jpg

[Rader]

So with all this black lives matter crime ( yes i say crime because they are out basically rioting ) Many wealthy people have left new york and will NEVER come back.

Most companies and small business owners say its no longer worth it to keep a location open in NYC and with daily crime and shootings soaring cops are retiring and running away as fast as they can.

I understand the cause may be just, but if you think its bad now wait a few months

Do you think NYC Will completely collapse?

Vote now for a chance to win a lambo

Yes. Only a moron would stay in that black hole of liberal jumbled retard nonsense festering social justice promoting idiocy. If you think that is mangled language that is because you are "woke" and aware that all socialists are f-gs

[Woke Locc]

Since my joking statement about nyc floating off into the atlantic ocean is a talking point.
I never meant or implied any harm would come to citizens there. My statement was a joke about nyc becoming an island out in the Atlantic ocean. Nothing heinous or hateful.

I'm sure residents of NYC would be perfectly content being outside US tax jurisdiction

So much irl pixels 🤑🤑🤑

[douglas1999]

Somewhat relevant but mostly just funny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM6kKLakL0w

[zodium]

thread title but its america

if you think its bad now wait a few months

[Domo]

for decades some rich people been robbing america and their people and nothing happend to these thiefs.
Nope, they even get protected.
But as soon some of the poor motherfuckers fight back its worse than what the rich fucks did for decades?

[kjs86z]

i hope these retards defund the po-leece in all major US cities (except Boston, wont ever happen there too many intelligent white people)

turn these shitholes into warzones and expose BLM for what it really is

[BlackBellamy]

https://imgur.com/7q74x9D.jpg

When we went out on the town in the mid-80s my friend would bring his .45 just in case. On the one hand we all thought he was a bit fucked in the head, and that kind of played out when he was actually hospitalized some years later. On the other hand we were glad to have Bill with us.

A corollary: the worse the town gets, the better the music. And I have to tell you, the NYC music scene is the worst it's ever been. There's no edge left...at all. Maybe this will bring some back.

[Bigsham]

And how is bill doing now?

You keeping in touch like a good lizard?

Bet he had your back

[BlackBellamy]

I went over to a friend's house couple of years back and we were reminiscing and I was like you were Bill's best friend have you heard from him? And he said not since he sent me a series of letters where he communicated via martial arts set pieces. Like it was pages and pages of choreographed kung-fu fights all written out. And every once in a while there would be a "Do you know what this means?" or some other cryptic and slightly ominous question. This was after the hospitalization and after they took away his guns.

I do miss him. He was funny and handsome and had a big dick. He would use all three to pick up these chicks over at Wetlands on the regular and he would be really generous with his seconds.

[zodium]

bill's martial arts pieces spelled out "i have information that will lead to the arrest of hillary clinton"

[Patriam1066]

I lol’ed and sodium’s and bellamy’s last posts

[Bigsham]

Somewhat relevant but mostly just funny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM6kKLakL0w

cant watch anything with a close up of some soon to be tranny boy with no job

but im sure the video had a great point

[Cecily]

*proudly pays his taxes for your unemployment SiP*

https://i.imgur.com/vrc367w.jpg

Thanks man, with deepest sincerity. When I move there gonna see some great surgeons.

[douglas1999]

cant watch anything with a close up of some soon to be tranny boy with no job

but im sure the video had a great point

Oh it's great, the former soviet guy has like exponentially more knowledge but is also good natured and has a good sense of humor. It's very humanizing, you kinda just feel bad for the dorks he interviews rather than being like grrrrrr fuck them!!

[Zoggren]

The cause isn't just though is the problem. 80% of black people in the country want the same amount or more police presence in their neighborhoods. Defunding and\or abolishing the police is a suicidally dumb idea, *especially* for poor communities.

If you could wave a magic wand and eliminate any racial animus among every police dept in the world, cops would still occassionally have to kill a black dude, like they do every other race, and somebody would film it and put it on facebook, and credulous bored idiots would riot again. There is absolutely zero chance that wouldn't happen.

This comment just reeks of intellectual cowardism. 80 percent? ok post your source? I know reading books about post reconstruction south and jim crow is hard, but damn, challenge yourself.

[Zoggren]

https://imgur.com/7q74x9D.jpg

When we went out on the town in the mid-80s my friend would bring his .45 just in case. On the one hand we all thought he was a bit fucked in the head, and that kind of played out when he was actually hospitalized some years later. On the other hand we were glad to have Bill with us.

A corollary: the worse the town gets, the better the music. And I have to tell you, the NYC music scene is the worst it's ever been. There's no edge left...at all. Maybe this will bring some back.

That's because many of the cheap to live in "incubator neighborhoods" have become too expensive to live in for many aspiring musicians. Which I find strange, since plenty of Queens, Bronx and Brooklyn have areas that are yet to be completely gentrified. Manhattan is done though.

[douglas1999]

This comment just reeks of intellectual cowardism

Haha sweet buzzword. But nah, I'm gonna take a page from the big book of douchebag comebacks and say that it's not my job to educate you! Derp! Seriously it's called pew and gallop.

Pretty sure you meant "cowardice" btw

[Cecily]

Intellectual cowardism would be an interesting political movement.

[Zoggren]

Hey Dug. You still dont know a damn thing about black history in this country. I guess stick to grammar correcting and the term douchebag to bolster your point. Because that's what really matters when you're trying to deflect.

[Woke Locc]

Intellectual cowardism would be an interesting political movement.

Know Nothing!!

[douglas1999]

Hey Dug. You still dont know a damn thing about black history in this country. I guess stick to grammar correcting and the term douchebag to bolster your point. Because that's what really matters when you're trying to deflect.

Nah I just told you precisely where you can find the opinion polls I was referencing. How can you possibly not understand that communities riddled with gang violence, which dissuades investment by business, which generates tax revenue, need *more* police and not less? Police should be better trained, and payed *more* so that they have an incentive to not fuck up on the job. When you defund and demoralize the police, you put innocent people in those communities at risk of being victimized by criminality, and you also make it more likely that the cops who remain won't really give a shit about what happens because they're being paid beans.

[HalflingSpergand]

Africans were imported by jews into the americas and called ******s and negros for a bit then it bbecame very bad.jews also imported slaves to other places and were very active in slave trade throughout "history"

[Snortles Chortles]

i bet you feel pretty silly right now

[Bigsham]

Who luls?

[Zoggren]

Nah I just told you precisely where you can find the opinion polls I was referencing. How can you possibly not understand that communities riddled with gang violence, which dissuades investment by business, which generates tax revenue, need *more* police and not less? Police should be better trained, and payed *more* so that they have an incentive to not fuck up on the job. When you defund and demoralize the police, you put innocent people in those communities at risk of being victimized by criminality, and you also make it more likely that the cops who remain won't really give a shit about what happens because they're being paid beans.

Have you ever been a cop or known one? Few jobs make more without a college degree. I'm also sure you care so much about those communities supposedly hurt by those gang bangers that rule the city! You act like cities are out of some 80s Van Damme movie! "Riddled with gang violence" ok. Sounds like you haven't been to New York lately or possibly ever. Have you ever looked at city budgets? Cops usually take half or more. It's time to examine what we get for our money.

[Bigsham]

So what are you saying zoggren

More cops in NYC or less?

Are you mad?

Will new york fall?

[douglas1999]

Have you ever been a cop or known one? Few jobs make more without a college degree. I'm also sure you care so much about those communities supposedly hurt by those gang bangers that rule the city! You act like cities are out of some 80s Van Damme movie! "Riddled with gang violence" ok. Sounds like you haven't been to New York lately or possibly ever. Have you ever looked at city budgets? Cops usually take half or more. It's time to examine what we get for our money.

What you get for your money is that if somebody ever breaks into your house you can call 911 and somebody who isn't a pussy will come deal with it. Yeah, they get paid decently for not having a degree. Consider *what they are actually doing* for the rest of us. Do YOU want to respond to an armed robbery in progress or an active shooter or a domestic violence call or a "guy stole a tank can somebody other than me deal with this plz" situation? No?

And lol yeah, no places in this country are riddled with gang violence. Who has even heard of such a thing?? Like I get it, you're sheltered as fuck, you don't understand what actually happens in real life for real people. "supposedly hurt by gang bangers" lol. Yeah, it's just a scary ghost! It never happens! The cops are the real bad guys, I'm sure of it!

[Patriam1066]

Africans were imported by jews into the americas and called ******s and negros for a bit then it bbecame very bad.jews also imported slaves to other places and were very active in slave trade throughout "history"

Lol’ed

[Baler]

Why cant we have nice things.
We're out here puttin in the work Questing till our fingers bleed.
Then these new accounts pop off and start a ruckus.

[Woke Locc]

Why cant we have nice things.
We're out here puttin in the work Questing till our fingers bleed.
Then these new accounts pop off and start a ruckus.

That's the space is fake guy. He's smart and rowdy.

[Bigsham]

Once upon a time we all posted on our characters name accounts

also new york

[Arteker]

So what are you saying zoggren

More cops in NYC or less?

Are you mad?

Will new york fall?

It will not Fall because i`m there. I will not Allow NYC to become new jersey 2.0.

For the record, last month on tribeca it was realy funny,the best part was when they tried to scrap my car and i had to crowbar some punks.
it was hillarious when they insulted me on spanish just to have me reply them on kind.

[Arteker]

Africans were imported by jews into the americas and called ******s and negros for a bit then it bbecame very bad.jews also imported slaves to other places and were very active in slave trade throughout "history"

mind a question? how the fuck did ya survived the abortion ur mother intended for you?.
Because holy jesus in a stake , u are more than fucked up than a cat drenched in lsd chap.

[HalflingSpergand]

https://i.imgur.com/tnngPBY.jpg

[Snortles Chortles]

https://i.imgur.com/pZFTMXV.jpg

[Baler]

https://i.imgur.com/1Df6ouR.gif

[Zoggren]

What you get for your money is that if somebody ever breaks into your house you can call 911 and somebody who isn't a pussy will come deal with it. Yeah, they get paid decently for not having a degree. Consider *what they are actually doing* for the rest of us. Do YOU want to respond to an armed robbery in progress or an active shooter or a domestic violence call or a "guy stole a tank can somebody other than me deal with this plz" situation? No?

And lol yeah, no places in this country are riddled with gang violence. Who has even heard of such a thing?? Like I get it, you're sheltered as fuck, you don't understand what actually happens in real life for real people. "supposedly hurt by gang bangers" lol. Yeah, it's just a scary ghost! It never happens! The cops are the real bad guys, I'm sure of it!

I live in the actual city, so I see this violence first hand, and this is where cops excel. I have officers in my family and I've even done a few shift rides, which are super fucking fun. I think what bothers me most about suburban people is that they think the entire city is a battleground with stray bullets flying everywhere. They also don't really understand what defunding the police really means. Police are used as resources that other types of professionals can fill. Police overtime eats up city budgets, and they can pull police away from essential duties such as catching violent criminals. Although some cops are racist, the vast majority are not, they just operate in a system designed to be racist. This is why people are in the streets, they want policy change and corrective action. Throwing more police at the problem will only exacerbate it. If you look at police tactics since the 60's and up with crime stats and how they are utilized and politicized, and add poor black neighborhoods to the mix, and how bad cops want to police "beyond the ticket" I think you would see we need an adjustment. It's not the end of the world. I also think police officers should be required to have more education then they do, even if the government would foot the bill. I also support high salaries for policemen because they do a difficult job, and it also deters the entrepreneurialism found in lesser developed countries with poorly paid police forces. I think its saved us from a culture of bakshi.

[Patriam1066]

It will not Fall because i`m there. I will not Allow NYC to become new jersey 2.0.

For the record, last month on tribeca it was realy funny,the best part was when they tried to scrap my car and i had to crowbar some punks.
it was hillarious when they insulted me on spanish just to have me reply them on kind.

You clearly couldn’t reply in English. America first

[Bigsham]

I live in the actual city, so I see this violence first hand, and this is where cops excel. I have officers in my family and I've even done a few shift rides, which are super fucking fun. I think what bothers me most about suburban people is that they think the entire city is a battleground with stray bullets flying everywhere. They also don't really understand what defunding the police really means. Police are used as resources that other types of professionals can fill. Police overtime eats up city budgets, and they can pull police away from essential duties such as catching violent criminals. Although some cops are racist, the vast majority are not, they just operate in a system designed to be racist. This is why people are in the streets, they want policy change and corrective action. Throwing more police at the problem will only exacerbate it. If you look at police tactics since the 60's and up with crime stats and how they are utilized and politicized, and add poor black neighborhoods to the mix, and how bad cops want to police "beyond the ticket" I think you would see we need an adjustment. It's not the end of the world. I also think police officers should be required to have more education then they do, even if the government would foot the bill. I also support high salaries for policemen because they do a difficult job, and it also deters the entrepreneurialism found in lesser developed countries with poorly paid police forces. I think its saved us from a culture of bakshi.

Good post dude, but can you try to use some punctuation, its a giant run on sentence.

Also palm beach county sheriff requires a 2 year degree, boca raton police department now requires a bachelors

Broward county sheriff still requires just a high school diploma or equivalent

[douglas1999]

I live in the actual city, so I see this violence first hand, and this is where cops excel. I have officers in my family and I've even done a few shift rides, which are super fucking fun. I think what bothers me most about suburban people is that they think the entire city is a battleground with stray bullets flying everywhere. They also don't really understand what defunding the police really means. Police are used as resources that other types of professionals can fill. Police overtime eats up city budgets, and they can pull police away from essential duties such as catching violent criminals. Although some cops are racist, the vast majority are not, they just operate in a system designed to be racist. This is why people are in the streets, they want policy change and corrective action. Throwing more police at the problem will only exacerbate it. If you look at police tactics since the 60's and up with crime stats and how they are utilized and politicized, and add poor black neighborhoods to the mix, and how bad cops want to police "beyond the ticket" I think you would see we need an adjustment. It's not the end of the world. I also think police officers should be required to have more education then they do, even if the government would foot the bill. I also support high salaries for policemen because they do a difficult job, and it also deters the entrepreneurialism found in lesser developed countries with poorly paid police forces. I think its saved us from a culture of bakshi.

See no, the system is not designed to be racist anymore. Maybe in the 50's it was, but it's 2020 now. Cops get called by people living in those neighborhoods who are being victimized, they don't just randomly appear, they respond to 911 calls and reports. Likewise they may patrol the same neighborhoods where the most violent crime reports originate. This makes complete sense. I have cops in my family as well which is why I sperg out on this so much, but there's just no fair deal for them right now. If they act they get shit on, if they don't act they get shit on. Meanwhile the left says you shouldn't "generalize" about people, as they generalize about people hard as fuck and engage in reprehensibly violent behavior against people they don't know anything about who have wives and families.

[Bigsham]

If you think its bad now wait till november when trump wins again

NG on every corner

[zodium]

See no, the system is not designed to be racist anymore. Maybe in the 50's it was, but it's 2020 now. Cops get called by people living in those neighborhoods who are being victimized, they don't just randomly appear, they respond to 911 calls and reports. Likewise they may patrol the same neighborhoods where the most violent crime reports originate. This makes complete sense. I have cops in my family as well which is why I sperg out on this so much, but there's just no fair deal for them right now. If they act they get shit on, if they don't act they get shit on. Meanwhile the left says you shouldn't "generalize" about people, as they generalize about people hard as fuck and engage in reprehensibly violent behavior against people they don't know anything about who have wives and families.

this is what liberals actually believe.

disband the cops.

[douglas1999]

this is what liberals actually believe.

disband the cops.

Cool

[BarnabusCollins]

See you in KC.

[BarnabusCollins]

Larry Silverstein blew up the fucking towers under Guiliani

[solleks]

I have lots of guns. Enjoy the waiting list when u need one