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Baler
08-14-2020, 12:09 PM
New York City recently held their primary and allowed for mail in voting.
Here are just a few of the things that went wrong.

Discarded for minor errors
Disqualified due to lack of postmark
USPS unable to handle the sharp increase
Difficulty processing some correctly
No signature or use of tape makes them invalid
Some Not sent to voters until the last day before
Extremely lengthy counting process compared to in-person voting


What are your thoughts on mail in voting?

hobart
08-14-2020, 12:41 PM
What are your thoughts on mail in voting?

Already done in several states on a large scale with fewer issues than the issues in states where they make people stand in line at very few inconveniently located precincts.

Woke Locc
08-14-2020, 12:49 PM
I think Sawant did a fraud in her last election. She was way behind and it flipped to a commanding victory overnight. Numbers don't do that without help.

Otherwise I'm for it.

BarnabusCollins
08-14-2020, 12:50 PM
Voter Fraud doesn't matter because the candidates they pick for you to choose from are all corrupt.

douglas1999
08-14-2020, 01:12 PM
Mail in voting and absentee voting are different things, with mail in voting being quite gay and bad and ripe for abuse by either party, thanks.

douglas1999
08-14-2020, 01:13 PM
Also democrats attempting to hold the unemployed hostage by trying to cram completely non-covid related things (such as universal mail in voting) into the most recent stimulus negotiations was insanely evil and psychotic

Kennie
08-14-2020, 01:23 PM
Also democrats attempting to hold the unemployed hostage by trying to cram completely non-covid related things (such as universal mail in voting) into the most recent stimulus negotiations was insanely evil and psychotic

kjs86z
08-14-2020, 01:55 PM
When you embrace intersectional feminism, postmodern identity politics, and socialist economics as the three-legged stool of your political philosophy you’re not going to attract a lot of people grounded in the kind of reality necessary to do objectively good work — and sooner or later it’s going to become obvious that none of your people can make your trains run on time.

Patriam1066
08-14-2020, 02:36 PM
New York is governed by Italians. Italians are useless

hope this helps, Utah has vote by mail and every Mormon is better looking and has a lower BMI than you

Kich867
08-14-2020, 02:44 PM
New York City recently held their primary and allowed for mail in voting.
Here are just a few of the things that went wrong.

Discarded for minor errors
Disqualified due to lack of postmark
USPS unable to handle the sharp increase
Difficulty processing some correctly
No signature or use of tape makes them invalid
Some Not sent to voters until the last day before
Extremely lengthy counting process compared to in-person voting


What are your thoughts on mail in voting?

It's been fine for decades, only became a talking point because of Trump.

Pretzelle
08-14-2020, 03:13 PM
It's been fine for decades, only became a talking point because of Trump.

Trexller
08-14-2020, 03:20 PM
Mail in voting is the only explanation of how their leadership gets elected. I honestly can't picture the AoC voter type. or even cuomo. While electronic in-person voting terminals can be compromised (albeit with extreme difficulty), Mail in voting can be compromised by the average person at any point in the chain of custody.

Theres just immensely less opportunity to defraud the outcome of an election with electronic in person terminals.

If there was really a question of china virus exposure at polling places, we would all be able to vote by text.

It's not like theres gonna be some reliable report on who voted for what. After you put that voting form in the mailbox, you have no idea what you really voted for, if your vote will count, and who it will count for.

The voting process has always been subject to wide spread fraud since time began, these days they just have stopped pretending that the system is fair.

Baler
08-14-2020, 03:21 PM
not to burst your bubble kich but democrats made it a talking point. You know,.. in response to covid... But I guess since trump mentions it and you hate his existence you're going to blame him.

Kich867
08-14-2020, 03:40 PM
Over the past 20 years there has been a mail-in-voting fraud rate of 0.00006%. Rampant I tell you!

Enjoying the mental gymnastics from folks though, 0.00006% -- Rampant voter fraud, Covid killing currently 3.6% of the people that contract it -- Literally not even real.

lolololololol

imperiouskitten
08-14-2020, 03:45 PM
New York is governed by Italians. Italians are useless

hope this helps, Utah has vote by mail and every Mormon is better looking and has a lower BMI than you

hi I just want to say, my parents made sure I grew up first among Mormons and then among Jews. I can't get thru the grocery store without someone falling in love.

Trexller
08-14-2020, 03:51 PM
Kick867 has a 30.08557% chance of eating at olive garden.

Anyone can make up numbers.

How are we supposed to trust anything anyone tells us from any source?

Kich867
08-14-2020, 03:54 PM
Kick867 has a 30.08557% chance of eating at olive garden.

I've actually never been, closest would be a Panera Bread that I've been to. More of a local restaurant bar kinda guy.

Trexller
08-14-2020, 04:01 PM
I've actually never been, closest would be a Panera Bread that I've been to. More of a local restaurant bar kinda guy.

Yeah the OG was alot better when i was a kid. but then so was most things.

Topgunben
08-14-2020, 04:45 PM
Let’s be honest. The real push against mail in voting is simple. Republicans know that the average democrat voter is a lazy piece of shit that happily pisses and moans about the current state of affairs, but won’t get off the couch to physically go down and vote.

With mail in voting, I don’t think there will be fraud in the sense that officials will be missplacing/destroying mail in votes. There will however be large amounts of enthusiastic college students that will be receiving course credit for going out to predominantly democrat areas and collecting/helping people fill out their mail in ballots, probably going as far as sealing, post stamping and delivering them.

It’s a lot harder to physically drag someone down to a voting station to get them to vote. It’s pretty damn easy to fill out a mail in voters pamphlet.

It’s all kind of a game, both Democrats and Republicans play the game. Each side is trying to figure out how to demoralize the opponents voters while encouraging their own. It’s really sick, but it’s the reality we live in.

from my personal observation, I do not see any real support for Joe Biden. I think the media is doing its best to make it seem like he’s the man of the hour, but that facade will soon fade. In fact, I would say that Hillary Clinton and her campaign had a greater knack for motivating their base, and look how that ended.

My bet is this, Trump is going to end up winning in one of the greatest lopsided victories of the past 50 years.

Trexller
08-14-2020, 04:59 PM
It’s all kind of a game, both Democrats and Republicans play the game. Each side is trying to figure out how to demoralize the opponents voters while encouraging their own. It’s really sick, but it’s the reality we live in.

Yeah man its politics as usual, thats how you play the game. Its not ideal but its nothing new. corruption has existed as long as humans. probably before us some apes were trying to appear as more than they are.

When was the last time we voted FOR a candidate and didn't just vote for candidate A because you don't like candidate B?

They're all only in it for the money and prestige that comes with what is now tenuous power. Public service pays nothing. Always more cash in the private sector. So while in office they gotta do things that will pay them when they leave office.

One thing trump has going for him is that he can't be bought, at least not easily or for only millions. Say what you want about his inheritance, business practices etc. Dude went to office with a couple billion and won't respond to some millions.

So that makes me think he's not in it for the money, so much as trying to keep american capitalism alive, such as it is. He's old money, his friends and connections are old money. Sectors like big tech are new, and they threaten old establishments.

Just facts.

hobart
08-14-2020, 05:35 PM
Let’s be honest. The real push against mail in voting is simple. Republicans know that the average democrat voter is a lazy piece of shit that happily pisses and moans about the current state of affairs, but won’t get off the couch to physically go down and vote.

With mail in voting, I don’t think there will be fraud in the sense that officials will be missplacing/destroying mail in votes. There will however be large amounts of enthusiastic college students that will be receiving course credit for going out to predominantly democrat areas and collecting/helping people fill out their mail in ballots, probably going as far as sealing, post stamping and delivering them.

It’s a lot harder to physically drag someone down to a voting station to get them to vote. It’s pretty damn easy to fill out a mail in voters pamphlet.

It’s all kind of a game, both Democrats and Republicans play the game. Each side is trying to figure out how to demoralize the opponents voters while encouraging their own. It’s really sick, but it’s the reality we live in.

from my personal observation, I do not see any real support for Joe Biden. I think the media is doing its best to make it seem like he’s the man of the hour, but that facade will soon fade. In fact, I would say that Hillary Clinton and her campaign had a greater knack for motivating their base, and look how that ended.

My bet is this, Trump is going to end up winning in one of the greatest lopsided victories of the past 50 years.

Trumptards can't see that they're the yen to the woke twitter crowd's yang. Opposite ends of the same horsehoe both kidding themselves that they're the normal ones...

Most Democrats aren't anything like this and there are a lot of us Republicans disgusted with Trump and what our party has become.

What people got wrong about the last election was the underestimation of the Kardashian factor of Trump. There's a significant chunk of people who are embarrassed to be consumers of his brand because they know what vapid pieces of shit it signals they are, but yet they consume. Between this and the disproportionate electoral power given to the hayseeds Trump has +10 points that don't show up in the polls.

This election will be decided in the suburbs of the major urban areas. It should be close.

Also, the states that do mail-in voting haven't shown a significant swing toward one side or the other because of mail-in voting. It turns out the people who can't be bothered to participate outside of social media can't be bothered to return a mail-in ballot either.

hobart
08-14-2020, 05:51 PM
One thing trump has going for him is that he can't be bought, at least not easily or for only millions. Say what you want about his inheritance, business practices etc. Dude went to office with a couple billion and won't respond to some millions.

So that makes me think he's not in it for the money, so much as trying to keep american capitalism alive, such as it is. He's old money, his friends and connections are old money. Sectors like big tech are new, and they threaten old establishments.

Just facts.

You really need to read. Nothing you've said is a fact.

The only billionaires who were running have dropped out. Trump is hardly money, much less old money. Old money's grandparents aren't immigrants.

Trump is leveraged up to his eyeballs to foreign banks and is in constant need to restructure debt. He borrows money from Russian banks that don't seem to have stringent lending practices and only occasionally hits a real estate home run when he sells something significantly over value, usually to a Russian national - go figure.

douglas1999
08-14-2020, 05:55 PM
Over the past 20 years there has been a mail-in-voting fraud rate of 0.00006%. Rampant I tell you!

Enjoying the mental gymnastics from folks though, 0.00006% -- Rampant voter fraud, Covid killing currently 3.6% of the people that contract it -- Literally not even real.

lolololololol

Haha, beep boop beep boop, official mail in voter fraud probability 0.00006% according to Kich867, the authoritative source on the matter as well as the probability that people who contract covid die, which is not even remotely close to 3.6%, based on available data. And then you go "yer just makin up numbarz too tramptord"

And again, I'm not even a fuckin republican. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

douglas1999
08-14-2020, 05:59 PM
Only dumb greedy people care about money guys. The benevolent (like me) immediately recognize when they have enough money and give the remainder to blacks or george floyd or something

Woke Locc
08-14-2020, 07:02 PM
And again, I'm not even a fuckin republican. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Even a log cabin neocon?

Kich867
08-14-2020, 07:38 PM
Haha, beep boop beep boop, official mail in voter fraud probability 0.00006% according to Kich867, the authoritative source on the matter as well as the probability that people who contract covid die, which is not even remotely close to 3.6%, based on available data. And then you go "yer just makin up numbarz too tramptord"

And again, I'm not even a fuckin republican. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud -- 143 convictions in 20 years related to mail in voter fraud against ~250 million ballots mailed in. Averages out to 7-8 convictions per year.

Worldwide covid-19 cases: ~21m, worldwide covid-19 deaths: ~762k

Bigsham
08-14-2020, 08:41 PM
I will always vote in person so i can start shit in line with pussy ass democrats

Cant fucking wait

Mead
08-14-2020, 09:14 PM
I will always vote in person so i can start shit in line with pussy ass democrats

Cant fucking wait

You sound scary

Blingy
08-14-2020, 10:23 PM
I think Sawant did a fraud in her last election. She was way behind and it flipped to a commanding victory overnight. Numbers don't do that without help.

Otherwise I'm for it.

https://images.app.goo.gl/Gwgg8h91tFyMb8aa7
Sawant is just a poor minority girl that has Seattle's best interests in mind. You must be a misogynistic racist nazi for claiming that there was any type of fraud in her last election.

/s

Bigsham
08-15-2020, 02:01 PM
Voter Fraud doesn't matter because the candidates they pick for you to choose from are all corrupt.

Can anyone guess how much money this guy has in the bank?

Spoiler : Fucking nothing

Snortles Chortles
08-15-2020, 02:29 PM
who cares

quido
08-15-2020, 02:52 PM
ur all gay

Trexller
08-15-2020, 02:59 PM
ur all gay

https://i.imgur.com/Drct4nA.jpg

quido
08-15-2020, 03:08 PM
i mean ur all rich and handsome

ok now im confused

Trexller
08-15-2020, 04:06 PM
Newman knows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg_4z2adv6Q

https://i.imgur.com/5fBmTC5.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/EUDa515.jpg

Bigsham
08-15-2020, 07:35 PM
Kick867 has a 30.08557% chance of eating at olive garden.

This is hilarious

Bigsham
08-15-2020, 07:37 PM
Only dumb greedy people care about money guys. The benevolent (like me) immediately recognize when they have enough money and give the remainder to blacks or george floyd or something

Lol?

Rader
08-15-2020, 10:48 PM
Already done in several states on a large scale with fewer issues than the issues in states where they make people stand in line at very few inconveniently located precincts.

Fewer issues = less difficult to cheat for socialists

We are on to you, nice try

Mead
08-16-2020, 02:04 PM
If the libtards are afraid to go out in public to vote and the Citizens of Walmart can’t wait to get to the booths then what is the problem?

This is a rhetorical question btw

Lune
08-16-2020, 07:13 PM
Also democrats attempting to hold the unemployed hostage by trying to cram completely non-covid related things (such as universal mail in voting) into the most recent stimulus negotiations was insanely evil and psychotic

At least democrats were trying to work with Trump in good faith and actually had an agenda. Call me when Pelosi filibusters her own bill

douglas1999
08-16-2020, 07:24 PM
At least democrats were trying to work with Trump in good faith

Hahah, oh dear lord. Right. Totally a good faith gesture to hamfist incredibly partisan and divisive provisions that have almost nothing to do with covid into this thing when actual people need economic relief. That is slimy and opportunistic as hell. Even fauci said there's no good reason people can't vote in person like they always do. Universal mail in voting? They also wanted to get rid of signature verification for some mind boggling reason. I'm not saying republicans aren't capable of doing the same kind of opportunistic things, they just aren't doing it right now. The democrats are being psychotically self interested while as usual posturing like they give a flying shit about normal working class people.

Trexller
08-16-2020, 07:54 PM
At least democrats were trying to work with Trump in good faith

Well I dunno about you guys but thats the dumbest thing I've heard today.

Anyone with open eyes can see that any position trump takes, the dems take the opposite position by reflex.

If trump wanted to open the US borders to anyone, Dems would cry about the criminals and terrorists coming in.

If trump wanted universal healthcare, Dems would cry about "death panels" and keeping their own doctor.

If trump wanted universal basic imcome, Dems would cry about the national debt.

If trump wanted to further economic trade with china, the dems would cry about american jobs.

Trump offered to meet the dems in the middle on the recent stimulus package. They said no because it wouldn't look like a dem victory

The entire thing is a fucking game. If you can't see that, just go back to your bong and tranny porn and let actual humans run the country.

Woke Locc
08-16-2020, 08:02 PM
Well I dunno about you guys but thats the dumbest thing I've heard today.

Anyone with open eyes can see that any position trump takes, the dems take the opposite position by reflex.

If trump wanted to open the US borders to anyone, Dems would cry about the criminals and terrorists coming in.

If trump wanted universal healthcare, Dems would cry about "death panels" and keeping their own doctor.

If trump wanted universal basic imcome, Dems would cry about the national debt.

If trump wanted to further economic trade with china, the dems would cry about american jobs.

Trump offered to meet the dems in the middle on the recent stimulus package. They said no because it wouldn't look like a dem victory

The entire thing is a fucking game. If you can't see that, just go back to your bong and tranny porn and let actual humans run the country.

Tru, tru. Big tents have a lot of complaints as a coalition of different viewpoints.

Trexller
08-16-2020, 08:16 PM
If voting at polling places were actually a serious health risk, we wouldn't be able to go to wal mart, home depot, other big stores. Funny how small businesses are ordered shuttered but when i go to wal mart i have to wade through crowds while the 90 year old with a tablet at the front door pretends to count people going in and out.

This Plandemic is a machination of the CCP and Dem party. Against all odds trump was doing good things for america, and nothing the Dems tried to stop him worked at all. So they unleashed a highly treatable, highly exaggerated virus, (if it even exists), vastly inflated death rates, and then ordered the entire country to submit to their Dem masters.

What a joke these people are, they just can't admit when they got their ass kicked. Right now what you are witnessing is a little girl losing at a board game, so she throws the game off the table.

Patriam1066
08-16-2020, 09:23 PM
If voting at polling places were actually a serious health risk, we wouldn't be able to go to wal mart, home depot, other big stores. Funny how small businesses are ordered shuttered but when i go to wal mart i have to wade through crowds while the 90 year old with a tablet at the front door pretends to count people going in and out.

This Plandemic is a machination of the CCP and Dem party. Against all odds trump was doing good things for america, and nothing the Dems tried to stop him worked at all. So they unleashed a highly treatable, highly exaggerated virus, (if it even exists), vastly inflated death rates, and then ordered the entire country to submit to their Dem masters.

What a joke these people are, they just can't admit when they got their ass kicked. Right now what you are witnessing is a little girl losing at a board game, so she throws the game off the table.

So the Chinese and the Democratic Party are working together, to start a global pandemic, to take down trump? That’s your assertion?

Bigsham
08-16-2020, 09:25 PM
while the 90 year old with a tablet at the front door pretends to count people going in and out.

Post pic please this would be a good chuckle

always loved the old guy that gave out stickers im sure they got him checking for covid now with a forehead thermometer

Snortles Chortles
08-16-2020, 09:44 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Q4RQF9h.jpg

Trexller
08-16-2020, 10:50 PM
So the Chinese and the Democratic Party are working together, to start a global pandemic, to take down trump? That’s your assertion?

As well as many other factions, that's how the world has always worked. Your simplistic view fails to recognize other machinations working to ensure he is a one term president.

Nationalistic isolationism is really bad for big tech and many other businesses. Fuck em let em burn in their own hubris.

#anyonewhogiveschinathefinger2020

Rader
08-16-2020, 10:57 PM
Well I dunno about you guys but thats the dumbest thing I've heard today.

Anyone with open eyes can see that any position trump takes, the dems take the opposite position by reflex.

If trump wanted to open the US borders to anyone, Dems would cry about the criminals and terrorists coming in.

If trump wanted universal healthcare, Dems would cry about "death panels" and keeping their own doctor.

If trump wanted universal basic imcome, Dems would cry about the national debt.

If trump wanted to further economic trade with china, the dems would cry about american jobs.

Trump offered to meet the dems in the middle on the recent stimulus package. They said no because it wouldn't look like a dem victory

The entire thing is a fucking game. If you can't see that, just go back to your bong and tranny porn and let actual humans run the country.

Yes, all this covid 19 bull sh-t could have been solved real quick if only Trump had worn a mask right away and pushed the panic button. Then the dems would have been all over him for overreacting to a bunch of nonsense and would have called it out for just a bad case of the flu

Instead, we have where we are now, shutting the country down just to spite the American Hitler and pray they defeat him in the upcoming election

Patriam1066
08-16-2020, 10:59 PM
Or, we would’ve had an outbreak like Australia’s (basically non existent)

Australia, a center-right anglophone country that has fought on our side in every war, not liberal, not black, not Muslim, not brain dead redneck

Patriam1066
08-16-2020, 11:00 PM
Congratulations on owning the libs. It only cost 170,000 american lives. I don’t think even Jesus Christ himself will forgive you guys for this one

Trexller
08-16-2020, 11:06 PM
Trump blocks travel from china on jan 31 2020, dems cry racism.

Trexller
08-16-2020, 11:09 PM
Congratulations on owning the libs. It only cost 170,000 american lives. I don’t think even Jesus Christ himself will forgive you guys for this one

All religions are BS. You are born, you live, you propogate, you die. like a rabbit, like a fish, like bacteria.

Religion is the oldest form of societal and cultural control. Since the day that someone offered something valuable to the sun god, someone else realized they could profit off of that belief.

If someone gets shot, you don't blame the gun, you blame the shooter.

China is the shooter, and doesn't give 2 shits over a few hundred thousand deaths. Its all a means to an end for them.

Hows your social credit score?

douglas1999
08-16-2020, 11:32 PM
Congratulations on owning the libs. It only cost 170,000 american lives. I don’t think even Jesus Christ himself will forgive you guys for this one

I mean... that number is not even remotely definitive at this point in time if you know anything about statistics. A truly novel virus can't be fully understood in years much less months, hence the drastically variant projections as time goes on. Many deaths in america attributed to covid19 are coincidental, it's the same exact mechanism that allows people to inflate "cannabis related" traffic fatalities. If you drive drunk as shit into a daycare center and you also test positive for THC on the toxicology, that gets added to the statistics against marijuana legalization. In other words it's highly politicized out of the gate and requires rigorous cross checking, and we haven't even had this disease for 6 full months yet. Saying things like "you cost all these lives, I hope you're HAPPY, political enemy" is so dumb and bad.

Patriam1066
08-17-2020, 12:15 AM
What’s the difference between Australia and America? Australia doesn’t have dumb red necks who are anti mask, anti science Q-Anon dip shits who think injecting bleach is science but death counts by the authorities are not

You will answer to God for your sins, for they are many

Nocht
08-17-2020, 03:03 AM
What’s the difference between Australia and America? Australia doesn’t have dumb red necks who are anti mask, anti science Q-Anon dip shits who think injecting bleach is science but death counts by the authorities are not

You will answer to God for your sins, for they are many

I think you need to go back to bible school.

Swish
08-17-2020, 06:02 AM
Australia doesn’t have dumb red necks who are anti mask,

There's some news articles that suggest otherwise. One of the southern states has a bad covid spread and there's people refusing to mask up, police handing out fines etc.

DMN
08-17-2020, 07:20 AM
So the Chinese and the Democratic Party are working together, to start a global pandemic, to take down trump? That’s your assertion?

Certainly working together to fuck over morons like you.

zodium
08-17-2020, 07:27 AM
Congratulations on owning the libs. It only cost 170,000 american lives. I don’t think even Jesus Christ himself will forgive you guys for this one

ahh, committing the unforgivable sin to boost my mammon worshipping masters. i, too, hail satan.

Woke Locc
08-17-2020, 02:54 PM
What’s the difference between Australia and America? Australia doesn’t have dumb red necks who are anti mask, anti science Q-Anon dip shits who think injecting bleach is science but death counts by the authorities are not

You will answer to God for your sins, for they are many

NZ sanctions when?

imperiouskitten
08-17-2020, 06:48 PM
Or, we would’ve had an outbreak like Australia’s (basically non existent)

Australia, a center-right anglophone country that has fought on our side in every war, not liberal, not black, not Muslim, not brain dead redneck

Congratulations on owning the libs. It only cost 170,000 american lives. I don’t think even Jesus Christ himself will forgive you guys for this one

What’s the difference between Australia and America? Australia doesn’t have dumb red necks who are anti mask, anti science Q-Anon dip shits who think injecting bleach is science but death counts by the authorities are not

You will answer to God for your sins, for they are many

Thanks, Tex Papi. This has been tearing me apart.