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dbparden
08-05-2020, 08:14 AM
I have a level 20 Halfling Druid all shiny in Crystal Chitin Gear but I am wondering if I should have focused more on charm gear vs wisdom? He is carrying a Crystal Chitin Shield and a Skyfury Scimitar.
I am not sure I will do the kiting thing (solo) but maybe. I mainly duo with a Wizard so I was thinking I would send a pet in to tank/assist the wizzy. Any thoughts?
Jimjam
08-05-2020, 08:18 AM
What do you mean by charm gear? Crystal chitin already has fantastic AC at level 20 for mitigating damage taken during breaks. Add in some hp so you don’t get spiked and you are golden, right?
dbparden
08-05-2020, 08:21 AM
I have a friend who plays a chanter and I know charm is important for him so I am asking is it something I need to be concerned about as a druid with a charmed pet?
Jimjam
08-05-2020, 08:28 AM
I’m still unsure of the definition you are using for ‘charm gear’ in your op.
It’s different for druids than enchanters as druids don’t have a charisma component to their charms.
For my own early druids ‘charm gear’ basically came down to surviving breaks. Managing mana to maintain a decent emergency reservoir felt more like a gameplay thing than gear.
dbparden
08-05-2020, 08:33 AM
You are right, I meant items that increase my charisma (my bad). Basically I dont know what I dont know about playing this class.
dbparden
08-05-2020, 08:37 AM
Will I need a Goblin Gazughi Ring as a Halfling or will I just be able to hide to force a break?
Jimjam
08-05-2020, 08:41 AM
Good point on the ring. Massive oversight by me! Thank you for pointing it out.
You’ll never ‘need’ the ring, racial hide sometimes helps, but the ggr helps a lot more on account of being infallible.
It’s a great convenience item, worth having, but your toon won’t be junk without it. At 20 you can do the camp to xp for a couple more levels using a tiger pet. Find a spawnpoint that works best for you and lock it down. Sometimes let the mob run on the spot while snared at low hp if you need to recoup mana. Often enchanters are nearby for c.
dbparden
08-05-2020, 08:44 AM
Great suggestion, thank you!
Bardp1999
08-05-2020, 12:46 PM
Charming as a Druid sucks - I wish you the best of luck
dbparden
08-05-2020, 03:22 PM
LOL Thank you for heads up Bardp1999!
Videri
08-05-2020, 04:31 PM
• OP, I think you already figured this out, but don't mix up charm and charisma. Charisma is a statistic your character has. Charm is a type of spell you cast. Charisma is prounounced karisma (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/charisma) so they shouldn't sound the same in your head.
• Charisma stat does not help druid charms at all. (Also true for necro and shaman charm spells.) Charisma does reduce critical resists on your Calm Animal spell, but most people don't bother gearing for charisma on a druid.
So...for a druid, "charm gear" has no charisma...just hp, maybe AC, and more wisdom and a deeper mana pool help too.
Also, if you're duoing with a wizard...the two of you could quad kite very effectively, especially after level 29. :)
Before 29, you can pull 4 mobs with snare, circle them up, then the two of you use your quad nukes. Try to have the druid nuke more on the first half to secure aggro, and the wizard nuke more on the second half to share the mana cost burden.
After 29, I'd have the wizard pull 4 mobs with flux staff, circle them, snare them, then both of you use your quad nukes. If the mobs split, wizard spams flux staff to regain aggro and gathers them again.
I hope you try it. Duo-quadding is cool. Less downtime, more security. You can SoW. He will eventually have a flux staff, and AE snare at 29.
Adron
08-06-2020, 12:04 AM
I had a good time with druid charm. Snare is much much better to throw in the charm mix than root, and if you have the snare earring (blue), costs nada. Griffons in the old world (use them on guards or hill giants), bear pits of course, tons of crap in velious. with druids, it's the only way to avoid the long long med. and that nice cheap ass animal fear for emergencies...
what charmer wouldn't want chloroplast?
but yeah, screw charisma. get HP and mana for the 5% of the time it goes south in the worst way
MikeXG
08-06-2020, 06:55 AM
Charming as a druid is amazing. Just root 4 mobs ontop of one another. Charm one and toss your damage shield on. Rinse and repeat. Your pet dies first so you break charm and get the kill when its low. Charm the next with highest hp. Lots of great youtube videos out there of druids doing crazy shit in the bear pits
Lordgordon
08-06-2020, 01:31 PM
Go to NK
Drag a griffon or whatever to the guards and let them nearly kill it
Charm and move away from guards
Break charm and kill
dbparden
08-07-2020, 09:57 AM
Lots of great ideas! Thank you all :-)
Kennie
08-28-2020, 03:26 PM
you will want the ring for sure.
zodium
09-24-2020, 07:40 AM
druids kick ass and are fun as hell to charm with. i've been single charactering a druid for like four years and my only regret is the one alt I made. (a ridiculously twinked warrior.) as others already explained, druids don't use charisma for charming, so you are free to go all in on AC/HP, which you should do, because we don't get any mana intensive spells worth sacrificing HP or AC for. lots of zones outside of kunark have some usable animal you can charm, and higher end velious zones in particular all seem to be designed with at least one charmable animal. some of them are quite powerful. :o
strongNpretty
09-24-2020, 11:03 AM
Yeah, and don't forget to show the plants some love along the way!!!
https://wiki.project1999.com/Beguile_Plants
Tunabros
10-16-2020, 03:14 PM
Charming as a Druid sucks - I wish you the best of luck
Charming in general sucks tbh
its not bad but its painful :p
kjs86z
10-16-2020, 04:05 PM
I love charming on my druid.
Doing it early will put you miles ahead skill-wise. Might be a bumpy start, but it pays off when you get to Chardok entrance ----> Bear Pits
Snaggles
10-16-2020, 10:01 PM
Keep the animal snared, keep it MR debuffed. Choose lower level pets so it’s not a break-fest.
Besides limited selection druid charming work great. At least compared to dotting or blasting stuff dead on a 1v1 basis.
Gustoo
11-10-2020, 06:22 PM
Charming is super easy. Keep SOW up, and profit.
I did it with a stinky hairy halfling no problem. I didn't even know charisma was a factor. Is charisma a factor on druid charm? If so, don't worry about it.
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