Approaching peak Orwell

[DMN]

https://abcnews.go.com/US/california-couple-charged-hate-crime-allegedly-vandalizing-black/story?id=71668864

Now being against a racist group like BLM can be qualified as a hate crime.

[Castle2.0]

BLM is pro-socialist (founders big socialist supporters, and BLM uses a lot of pro-socialist ideas/lingo) and against the nuclear family - see: https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/

I'm against "BLM inc." purely out of political/ideological reasons that have nothing to do with racial equality.

If you do want to get into the racial equality side check out this 10-min video from Jordan Peterson "White privilege isn't real"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEESNpAu1EU

[Woke Locc]

What's the sentence for hate crime vandalism?

I think it's just a multiplier.

Anyway they prob said something dumb when the cops came.

[DMN]

What's the sentence for hate crime vandalism?

I think it's just a multiplier.

Anyway they prob said something dumb when the cops came.

Wouldn't matter what they said. BLM is not a race, religion, ethnicity, gender, sexuality, etc.

[Woke Locc]

Wouldn't matter what they said. BLM is not a race, religion, ethnicity, gender, sexuality, etc.

It would matter because hate crimes are motive based

Also, black paint

[Kich867]

hate crime
noun
a crime, typically one involving violence, that is motivated by prejudice on the basis of race, religion, sexual orientation, or other grounds.

Whether what they did was technically a hate crime, they're still vandals. However the definition of "hate crime" is apparently vague and is more about prejudice, which they had in abundance, so /shrug.

[Lune]

BLM is pro-socialist (founders big socialist supporters, and BLM uses a lot of pro-socialist ideas/lingo) and against the nuclear family - see: https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/

I'm against "BLM inc." purely out of political/ideological reasons that have nothing to do with racial equality.

If you do want to get into the racial equality side check out this 10-min video from Jordan Peterson "White privilege isn't real"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEESNpAu1EU

I don't like BLM, but this is an interesting idea. My knee-jerk reaction was also "anti-family? fuck you", but I remembered that the nuclear family as it exists in the United States and much of Europe is cancer. Human beings were never meant to live in tiny households with just their parents and siblings, maybe seeing grandparents and aunts and uncles every couple months or years.

Living in close social proximity to extended family "clans" is much more conducive to human social, emotional, and spiritual happiness and wellbeing, and the nuclear family as it exists for so many people in the US is likely partly responsible for our unparalleled levels of mental illness and economic anxiety.

Of course given that BLM is primarily young college libs it's probably more about polyamory and being a cuck than rational sociological approaches.

Also what's hilarious about this is their black paint is still very much contrasted against the gray asphalt, so it's still going to say Black Lives Matter, with the Black in black and people will just think its intended. Looks like they didnt have near enough paint to obscure the actual shape of letters.

[Pretzelle]

https://abcnews.go.com/US/california-couple-charged-hate-crime-allegedly-vandalizing-black/story?id=71668864

Now being against a racist group like BLM can be qualified as a hate crime.

You could just try not being a racist for once? Only racists seem to be bothered by BLM.

[Kaveh]

BLM protests really helped accelerate covid 19

really makes u think

[kjs86z]

https://youtu.be/dCDMGu-xi30?t=64

[Jimjam]

Why is BLM a .com not a .org?

[kjs86z]

Yet nobody wants to address the dozens of black on black murders in nearly every major US city every weekend. And if you do point that out, you're automatically a racist.

Fuck BLM...but hey lets defund police so badly no cop wants to work the inner cities anymore and let them become warzones. See how that pans out for you socialist degenerates.

[Woke Locc]

And if you do point that out, in the context of a police killing, you're automatically a huge asshole.

[Castle2.0]

You could just try not being a racist for once? Only racists seem to be bothered by BLM. We all think X. Anyone who doesn't think X must be a criminal.

Criminalizing thought and speech. This is exactly what OP is talking about.

Yet nobody wants to address the dozens of black on black murders in nearly every major US city every weekend. And if you do point that out, you're automatically a racist. Majority of crimes are Race X on Race X - goes for white, black, Mexican, or w/e. Won't get into reasons, but stats are similar across the board.

See homicide for example: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls

Agree that US cities are becoming war zones. We need some more law and order, DUN DUN DUNNN....

[Kich867]

Yet nobody wants to address the dozens of black on black murders in nearly every major US city every weekend. And if you do point that out, you're automatically a racist.

I think people do want to address that, it's just that there's only so many things people can address, and the thing they're trying to address isn't random people killing other random people, it's law enforcement officers killing civilians.

If anyone's issue with a movement is that they don't subsequently also try to solve every related problem, that person is unreasonable and looking for excuses to disagree with that movement. That's sort of like being upset at a breast cancer walk for not being about every single kind of cancer.

[Kaveh]

Violent crime is up. Fun fact: as a result of these protests, more blacks will die this year. They’ll be killed by other blacks, but hey as long as a white dude didn’t do it while kneeling on the black dudes neck!!!!

[Trexller]

Yeah Orwell was a clairvoyant.

[Ennewi]

Freedom of speech < responsibility of thought. Everything we say and do is not without consequence, positive or negative, to varying degrees...even with the relative anonymity that the internet affords.

Also, if the name is going to be thrown around in a thread like this, it's worth mentioning that Orwell was a democratic socialist.

[Woke Locc]

Violent crime is up. Fun fact: as a result of these protests, more blacks will die this year. They’ll be killed by other blacks, but hey as long as a white dude didn’t do it while kneeling on the black dudes neck!!!!

It's worse if a state agent does it, which is the genesis of the movement anyway.

Please integrate.

[Kich867]

Violent crime is up. Fun fact: as a result of these protests, more blacks will die this year. They’ll be killed by other blacks, but hey as long as a white dude didn’t do it while kneeling on the black dudes neck!!!!

Why are you so defensive about this?

It's pretty easy to hold simultaneous views about the topic...

[Danth]

My memory of "1984" was that the worst oppression was mostly directed at the upper middle class and low-end wealthy--basically the people the powerful elites were most concerned with. The rank-and-file citizenry was kept poor, ignorant, and largely powerless but not necessarily all that heavily oppressed in the direct sense. At least that's my admittedly dim memory of a book I read perhaps 25 or 30 years ago and did not particularly care for.

We're in a future all our own. Just about nobody saw the internet coming and the impact of social media and the internet has far exceeded the ability of human cultures to keep pace. Today's troubles will be one of the corrections that must inevitably occur as society tries to catch up. There will be others.

Danth

[Kennie]

I don't like BLM, but this is an interesting idea. My knee-jerk reaction was also "anti-family? fuck you", but I remembered that the nuclear family as it exists in the United States and much of Europe is cancer. Human beings were never meant to live in tiny households with just their parents and siblings, maybe seeing grandparents and aunts and uncles every couple months or years.

Living in close social proximity to extended family "clans" is much more conducive to human social, emotional, and spiritual happiness and wellbeing, and the nuclear family as it exists for so many people in the US is likely partly responsible for our unparalleled levels of mental illness and economic anxiety.



Your posts are so cringe.

[Castle2.0]

Orwell was largely right about his views in 1984 - so what if he was a "democratic socialist"? The irony is that one of socialism's many flaws is it leads to too much state power - the power needed to do the terrible things you read in 1984.

I'm not sure how he reconciled those views.

Also, it is possible to agree and disagree with the same person on different topics (without "cancelling" them :D) He is right in 1984 about socialism, he is wrong about his version of socialism he supported.

"It's never been done right. If it were done my way, it would work."

Says every socialist simp and wanna-be / actual dictator, ha.

[Trexller]

@Castle2.0

True blood democratic socialists won't tell you to submit to the state.

The radicals just use the term democratic socialism as a primer to open a door to full on bend-you-over-the-barrel communism.

Its politics, nothing ever means what it says. In order to effect mass change (in especially conservative populations) you must ease it in slowly (yep, i get it), by the time we are bent over the barrel, we won't realize it has happened.

Democracy will not die in darkness, it will die to thunderous applause. even the worst star wars film had 1 good line.

[Swish]

Your posts are so cringe.

https://i.imgur.com/5OAggOJ.png

[Lune]

Orwell was largely right about his views in 1984 - so what if he was a "democratic socialist"? The irony is that one of socialism's many flaws is it leads to too much state power - the power needed to do the terrible things you read in 1984.

I'm not sure how he reconciled those views.

Also, it is possible to agree and disagree with the same person on different topics (without "cancelling" them :D) He is right in 1984 about socialism, he is wrong about his version of socialism he supported.

"It's never been done right. If it were done my way, it would work."

Says every socialist simp and wanna-be / actual dictator, ha.

When are you people going to learn that it's less about the form of government and more about culture and values. Capitalism, democratic socialism, fascism, or even communism could all be shitty or great forms of government depending on the people practicing them.

Socialism works quite well in Nordic countries where this a strong sense of civic duty, protestant work ethic, personal responsibility, it works less well in places with high levels of corruption or highly multicultural, fragmented societies (Venezuela, USSR, etc).

Likewise, capitalism is pretty great when it is underlied by a value system that negates some of its inhumane aspects. You see this in the difference between the American idyll of Jeffersonian Democracy vs. Chinese capitalism where they are dumping toxins in baby formula and cutting rice with plastic, although American capitalism has always been pretty shitty but is quickly descending to China levels compared to its apogee in the 1950's.

The ideal system is the one that maximizes prosperity and equity for a given culture, and for the United States it's really anyone's guess which one that is. But when people are talking about wanting things to be more "socialist" I think what they mean is they want a country that is more equitable in terms of equality of opportunity and the standard of living for wageslaves and you really have to be a high-grade piece of shit to be against that just because you are afraid of some Soviet strawman Fox News has shoved in your face.

[Nirgon]

I got a crazy idea, don't live in the shit hole city

[BlackBellamy]

https://abcnews.go.com/US/california-couple-charged-hate-crime-allegedly-vandalizing-black/story?id=71668864

Now being against a racist group like BLM can be qualified as a hate crime.

Oh no! That's not "Peak Orwell". "Peak Orwell" the movement to out-Orwell Orwell that's going around now. Latest example https://bennorton.com/george-orwell-list-leftists-snitch-british-government/

This guy is arguing Orwell was a traitor because he was opposed to the Soviet Union which heroically fought the Nazis so if you're against the Commies then you're pro-Nazi and therefore Orwell (who was a socialist) is a traitor.

[Bigsham]

what a great pic and sig jif swish

[magnetaress]

I believe we are approaching the Huxlian limit, however, some say it cannot be broken, I believe it can be.

[Bigsham]

chomps hormone pill and adds opinion to online elf thread


SUCCESS!

[Woke Locc]

chomps hormone pill and adds opinion to online elf thread


SUCCESS!

https://i.imgur.com/hQ2qB7L.jpg

[magnetaress]

*hormonally chomps orwellian huxly pills*

[Kennie]

https://i.imgur.com/5OAggOJ.png
Problem?

https://i.imgur.com/qz6w09k.png

[Lune]

Literally can't think of a Kennie post that has been noteworthy or made me laugh or even think, at least Swish has contributed something of substance even if it's just making me laugh at his simpsons cat necro gif. You're just background noise, and the ungodly time commitment for that many level 60's is 100% sensitive for mental illness.

[Kennie]

Literally can't think of a Kennie post that has been noteworthy or made me laugh or even think, at least Swish has contributed something of substance even if it's just making me laugh at his simpsons cat necro gif. You're just background noise, and the ungodly time commitment for that many level 60's is 100% sensitive for mental illness.You love hearing yourself talk, STFU nerd. Go lick your daddy issue wounds mr. nuclear family is cancer. Pussy.

[Snortles Chortles]

they are equally cringe tier posters

[Lojik]

I think a lot of it is just very easy for social media to influence peoples thoughts with likes or up votes or whatever. We're bombarded by information and lots of people out of work and probably not well mentally. What some people might perceive as the current "public opinion" on a topic can change so damn fast, and the things that are actually effective at changing peoples opinions on things are things that shouldn't, at least if that person wants to have an informed opinion about something. Probably like 1 percent of people actually form opinions on current topics with any sense of diligence.

[Nilstoniakrath]

You could just try not being a racist for once? Only racists seem to be in BLM.

Yup

[Woke Locc]

Four Kinds of Dystopia

The twentieth century saw four basic visions of hell on earth, or dystopia. These were:

Orwellian. Rule by autocratic totalitarian people, party or elite group. Limitation of choice, repression of speech and repression of minorities. Belief in order, routine and rational-morality. Erotic physicality and sexual freedom suppressed through violent control of sexual impulse. Constant surveillance and constant censorship. Control of bodies by enclosure, fear, explicit, violent, repression of dissent and forced obedience to ‘the party line’ (orwellian fanaticism: All must submit). Control of minds by explicitly policing, limiting and punishing subversive language (orwellian newspeak: state-controlled reduction of vocabulary to limit range of thought). Truth cannot be known (aka hyper-relativism or postmodernism); and therefore we need an external authority to decide what the truth is (kings and priests) and to protect society from chaos and madness (the orwellian them: commies, anarchists, extremists, radicals, infidels, plebs, proles, freaks, criminals, etc.).

Huxleyan Rule by democratic, totalitarian, capitalist, technocratic systems. Super-excess of choice. Limitation of access to speech platforms. Assimilation of minorities (via tokenism), foundational belief in emotional-morality, ‘imagination’ and ‘flexibility’. Control by desire, debt, narcotic, technical necessity and implicit threat of violence. No overt control of dissent (system selects for system-friendly voices and unconscious self-censorship). Erotic physicality and sexual freedom suppressed via promotion of pornographic sensuality, promiscuity and dissolution. Control of bodies through pleasure and addiction to pleasure. Control of minds by proliferating information and enclosing language within professional boundaries (Illichian Newspeak, or Uniquack). Truth can be intellectually known (the religion of scientism) and is obvious when understood (huxleyan fanaticism: only the wicked can refuse it) and learnt in the process of setting up an internal authority (aka morality or conscience) called ‘education’.

Kafkaesque Rule by bureaucracy. Control of populace (and of nature) through putting them into writing; fixing names, surveying land, standardising measures, tracking movement, quantifying, measuring and recording everything that happens everywhere, thereby abstracting it and making it manageable, which, in itself, induces tractable stress and the schizoid, self-regulating self-consciousness (anxiety about low marks, unlikes, official judgements and the like) of the bureaucratically surveilled. In addiction, bureaucratic functions and practices in an expanding abstract system are increasingly designed to manage their own abstract output. Having less and less to do with the actual lives of those who engage with it bureaucratic tasks necessarily become frustrating, interminable, dehumanising and pointless; a state of affairs which is permitted, and even encouraged, as it automatically grinds down those who threaten management; the informal, the illiterate, the spontaneous, the shifting, the weird, the local, the private, the embodied and all those who seek to have a direct relationship with their fellows; all of which is intolerable to kafkaesque systems, which promote into power hyper-normal functionaries who seek an indirect relationship with their fellows and who, through fear of life, seek to control it through the flow of paperwork.

Phildickian Rule by replacing reality with an abstract, ersatz virtual image of it. This technique of social control began with literacy1—and the creation of written symbols, which devalued soft conscious sensuous inspiration, fostered a private (reader-text) interaction with society, created the illusion that language is a thing, that meaning can be stored, owned and perfectly duplicated, that elite-language is standard and so on—and ended with virtuality—the conversion of classrooms, offices, prisons, shops and similar social spaces into ‘immersive’ on-line holodecks which control and reward participants through permanent, perfect surveillance, the stimulation of positive and negative emotion, offers of godlike powers, and threats to nonconformists of either narco-withdrawal or banishment to an off-line reality now so degraded by the demands of manufacturing an entire artificial universe, that only hellish production-facilities, shoddy living-units and prisons can materially function there.

https://expressiveegg.org/2017/01/03/four-kinds-dystopia/

[DoodyLich666]

It definitely does seem like we seem to be headed toward a brave new world/1984 hybrid. It’s some weird shit.

[Secrets]

"Black Lives Matter" is a valid statement. It's something everyone can agree on. It doesn't mean they are superior to other lives, nor lesser than others. It means you treat one person of a specific peripheral construct (race) as the same as another peripheral construct.

Anyone arguing anything other than that (ie; All Lives Matter, Blue Lives Matter, etc.) means that you support the systematic destruction of a particular group of people that you visually see as inferior based on <attribute here>. You can't say "All Lives Matter" and then kill the fly that accidentally landed on your monitor that's 'annoying you' - the fly has a life too. Bedbugs? Yup, can't kill those, as all lives matter. Those attracted to children? Yeah, can't treat them any different. 'All Lives Matter', right?

Cops are not a race. They're a profession you pick much later in life. You can't look at a cop out of the womb and say "Yeah, this dude's gonna be a cop."

They are a social construct, not one based on your sense of vision. They are based on emotion to a society founded on rules. Society once existed without officers, laws, and political biases. The only thing that hasn't changed is that black individuals are black and still systematically oppressed for centuries.

So instead of being racist, sexist, or whatever -ist, how about propping up the people you are close to and know need help, regardless of the way they were born? After all, we can't judge books by their cover.

Actions speak louder than sitting here on this EverQuest forum saying about how you'll do something instead of actually getting involved and doing your part to make sure it ends.

I personally took it upon myself on multiple occasions and sat with people one-on-one that I care about, and helped them get on their feet, expecting nothing in return. Can you say you've done the same, or have you just posted on message boards and social media about how 'people need to do it' - well, guess what, you are a person. Stop preaching to the choir and start making better choices.

[Vanin]

So ALM is racist if we don't subtract bugs? As someone who has found ants to be fascinating their whole life I find this to be offensive.

[GinnasP99]

Ants are cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVI8YIpdnJ0

[Jimjam]

BLM should just take ownership of the phrase “All Lives Matter”. Flip reverse it so ‘ALM’ is used to confirm that ‘yes, alm so bl indeed do m’.

[Lojik]

"Black Lives Matter" is a valid statement. It's something everyone can agree on. It doesn't mean they are superior to other lives, nor lesser than others. It means you treat one person of a specific peripheral construct (race) as the same as another peripheral construct.

Anyone arguing anything other than that (ie; All Lives Matter, Blue Lives Matter, etc.) means that you support the systematic destruction of a particular group of people that you visually see as inferior based on <attribute here>. You can't say "All Lives Matter" and then kill the fly that accidentally landed on your monitor that's 'annoying you' - the fly has a life too. Bedbugs? Yup, can't kill those, as all lives matter. Those attracted to children? Yeah, can't treat them any different. 'All Lives Matter', right?

Cops are not a race. They're a profession you pick much later in life. You can't look at a cop out of the womb and say "Yeah, this dude's gonna be a cop."

They are a social construct, not one based on your sense of vision. They are based on emotion to a society founded on rules. Society once existed without officers, laws, and political biases. The only thing that hasn't changed is that black individuals are black and still systematically oppressed for centuries.

So instead of being racist, sexist, or whatever -ist, how about propping up the people you are close to and know need help, regardless of the way they were born? After all, we can't judge books by their cover.

Actions speak louder than sitting here on this EverQuest forum saying about how you'll do something instead of actually getting involved and doing your part to make sure it ends.

I personally took it upon myself on multiple occasions and sat with people one-on-one that I care about, and helped them get on their feet, expecting nothing in return. Can you say you've done the same, or have you just posted on message boards and social media about how 'people need to do it' - well, guess what, you are a person. Stop preaching to the choir and start making better choices.

Humans will by and large tend to associate and agree with people they feel are similar to them, and the easiest way to associate is by looks. Skin color stands out the most, so most people of a certain race will tend to sympathize with a message coming from people of the same race. We do it with lots of things besides race too, by profession, hobby, where you're from, and what political party you support. That's why good salesmen will try and find a way to "relate" to you by trying to find a connection (either real or fake.) In politics people will sympathize more with their respective voter base (or who they think is their voter base.) If you're liberal and I talk about uneducated racist white people, you're more likely to want to view them with disdain rather than sympathy, while viewing poor racist black people as simply misguided. The right does this too, claiming poor black people are thugs and all the black communitys problems are their own doing, which is false. I think a fear a lot of americans have with the BLM movement is that these different expectations are going to be upheld as the mainstream, acceptable view. If you look just at the NFL, Drew Brees said "I will never agree with someone kneeling for the flag." His own team mates called him out instantly, stopped following him on IG or whatever. Probably like 1/2 the leagues players specifically called him out. Meanwhile DeSean Jackson posts "hitler was right" with some fake hitler quotes, and it took probably at least a day for any current player to call him out. I think maybe 5-10 players have called him out specifically at all, most people just saying "we can't accept any sort of hate" without specifying the incident at all. They're basically "all lives mattering" this situation, it's a joke. You can pretty easily say that "they don't represent the majority of the BLM movement" which is true, and that leads to my next point.

BLM is, at the moment, a pretty decentralized movement. That can be good for the movement but also bad. In todays political climate if there's a clear leader then it's easy to point to a figurehead and say "those are the policies this group supports." BLM doesn't really have this, except for when ultra conservaties will point to their "leaders" being trained marxists or something. The "movement" is difficult to criticize at the moment, because it's not really clear what policies they support. At the same time the organization will lack direction due to leadership. Look at what's happened politically, and I really don't think much of what's happened will have a positive impact on black lives much.

[Kich867]

So ALM is racist if we don't subtract bugs? As someone who has found ants to be fascinating their whole life I find this to be offensive.

ALM isn't inherently racist, it's dismissive, it's a retort that doesn't mean anything. BLM has an implicit "Too" at the end--Black Lives Matter Too.

If you sat down for dinner with your family and everyone gets a meal except you, and you say "Hey I need food", and someone responds "Everyone needs food". They're not wrong, but they're not being fuckin helpful either because you still don't have any food.

[DoodyLich666]

No lives matter
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hlk7o5T56iw

[magnetaress]

Four Kinds of Dystopia

The twentieth century saw four basic visions of hell on earth, or dystopia. These were:

Orwellian. Rule by autocratic totalitarian people, party or elite group. Limitation of choice, repression of speech and repression of minorities. Belief in order, routine and rational-morality. Erotic physicality and sexual freedom suppressed through violent control of sexual impulse. Constant surveillance and constant censorship. Control of bodies by enclosure, fear, explicit, violent, repression of dissent and forced obedience to ‘the party line’ (orwellian fanaticism: All must submit). Control of minds by explicitly policing, limiting and punishing subversive language (orwellian newspeak: state-controlled reduction of vocabulary to limit range of thought). Truth cannot be known (aka hyper-relativism or postmodernism); and therefore we need an external authority to decide what the truth is (kings and priests) and to protect society from chaos and madness (the orwellian them: commies, anarchists, extremists, radicals, infidels, plebs, proles, freaks, criminals, etc.).

Huxleyan Rule by democratic, totalitarian, capitalist, technocratic systems. Super-excess of choice. Limitation of access to speech platforms. Assimilation of minorities (via tokenism), foundational belief in emotional-morality, ‘imagination’ and ‘flexibility’. Control by desire, debt, narcotic, technical necessity and implicit threat of violence. No overt control of dissent (system selects for system-friendly voices and unconscious self-censorship). Erotic physicality and sexual freedom suppressed via promotion of pornographic sensuality, promiscuity and dissolution. Control of bodies through pleasure and addiction to pleasure. Control of minds by proliferating information and enclosing language within professional boundaries (Illichian Newspeak, or Uniquack). Truth can be intellectually known (the religion of scientism) and is obvious when understood (huxleyan fanaticism: only the wicked can refuse it) and learnt in the process of setting up an internal authority (aka morality or conscience) called ‘education’.

Kafkaesque Rule by bureaucracy. Control of populace (and of nature) through putting them into writing; fixing names, surveying land, standardising measures, tracking movement, quantifying, measuring and recording everything that happens everywhere, thereby abstracting it and making it manageable, which, in itself, induces tractable stress and the schizoid, self-regulating self-consciousness (anxiety about low marks, unlikes, official judgements and the like) of the bureaucratically surveilled. In addiction, bureaucratic functions and practices in an expanding abstract system are increasingly designed to manage their own abstract output. Having less and less to do with the actual lives of those who engage with it bureaucratic tasks necessarily become frustrating, interminable, dehumanising and pointless; a state of affairs which is permitted, and even encouraged, as it automatically grinds down those who threaten management; the informal, the illiterate, the spontaneous, the shifting, the weird, the local, the private, the embodied and all those who seek to have a direct relationship with their fellows; all of which is intolerable to kafkaesque systems, which promote into power hyper-normal functionaries who seek an indirect relationship with their fellows and who, through fear of life, seek to control it through the flow of paperwork.

Phildickian Rule by replacing reality with an abstract, ersatz virtual image of it. This technique of social control began with literacy1—and the creation of written symbols, which devalued soft conscious sensuous inspiration, fostered a private (reader-text) interaction with society, created the illusion that language is a thing, that meaning can be stored, owned and perfectly duplicated, that elite-language is standard and so on—and ended with virtuality—the conversion of classrooms, offices, prisons, shops and similar social spaces into ‘immersive’ on-line holodecks which control and reward participants through permanent, perfect surveillance, the stimulation of positive and negative emotion, offers of godlike powers, and threats to nonconformists of either narco-withdrawal or banishment to an off-line reality now so degraded by the demands of manufacturing an entire artificial universe, that only hellish production-facilities, shoddy living-units and prisons can materially function there.

https://expressiveegg.org/2017/01/03/four-kinds-dystopia/

What is the word for a melange of all this simultaneously?

[Nilstoniakrath]

BLM has an implicit "Too" at the end--Black Lives Matter Too.


What I hear is "Black Lives Matter More". That is totally racist. F the implicit BS, add "Too" to the slogan if that is what it is supposed to mean.

[Trexller]

Everything alive deserves to live and prosper. Everything that can feel deserves to feel good. From the best of us to the worst of us, that truth is self evident.

However sometimes i get the impression that some groups fighting for equal rights are not seeking equality, they are seeking supremacy.

When they stand in the streets and protest, they are exercising their rights and bringing attention to real problems in the nation/world.

When they destroy property and kill people, they are waging war!!

I'm a Korean guy IRL. So maybe the white experience/black experience is lost on me. I've heard "asian C word" thrown at me a few times in my life, its sort of a, huh? thing. Asians in general don't seem to be bothered by racism directed at them. I haven't been offended... and i do get offended easily. I'll chew your face off for much lesser offenses than racism.

But when I read/hear that saying "all lives matter" makes you a racist, That to me screams that BLM is seeking Supremacy.

[Kich867]

Everything alive deserves to live and prosper. Everything that can feel deserves to feel good. From the best of us to the worst of us, that truth is self evident.

However sometimes i get the impression that some groups fighting for equal rights are not seeking equality, they are seeking supremacy.

When they stand in the streets and protest, they are exercising their rights and bringing attention to real problems in the nation/world.

When they destroy property and kill people, they are waging war!!

I'm a Korean guy IRL. So maybe the white experience/black experience is lost on me. I've heard "asian C word" thrown at me a few times in my life, its sort of a, huh? thing. Asians in general don't seem to be bothered by racism directed at them. I haven't been offended... and i do get offended easily. I'll chew your face off for much lesser offenses than racism.

But when I read/hear that saying "all lives matter" makes you a racist, That to me screams that BLM is seeking Supremacy.

It doesn't necessarily make you a racist, it just implies you fundamentally misunderstand what black lives matter means.

If a house in your neighborhood is on fire and someone says "We need to save that house" and you respond "Every house deserves to not be on fire" that doesn't make you an arson but it also doesn't do anything to move the issue. The house is still on fire.

Do pictures help?
https://theamericanbystander.substack.com/p/all-lives-matter-guy

[TheSurgeon]

https://i.imgur.com/5OAggOJ.png

I'm fucking dying.

[DMN]

It doesn't necessarily make you a racist, it just implies you fundamentally misunderstand what black lives matter means.

If a house in your neighborhood is on fire and someone says "We need to save that house" and you respond "Every house deserves to not be on fire" that doesn't make you an arson but it also doesn't do anything to move the issue. The house is still on fire.

Do pictures help?
https://theamericanbystander.substack.com/p/all-lives-matter-guy

BLM is a racist group comprised exclusively of racists and/or morons. The only houses burning are the ones they set on fire with their "mostly peaceful" protests.

[Trexller]

It doesn't necessarily make you a racist, it just implies you fundamentally misunderstand what black lives matter means.

If a house in your neighborhood is on fire and someone says "We need to save that house" and you respond "Every house deserves to not be on fire" that doesn't make you an arson but it also doesn't do anything to move the issue. The house is still on fire.

Do pictures help?
https://theamericanbystander.substack.com/p/all-lives-matter-guy

No not at all. That comic doesn't reflect anyone i've ever seen, heard, engaged with on any level, anything. Frankly that's offensive. The comic depicts an exagerrated selfish ignorant bastard. Sole purpose of that comic is to fire up the lefties.

Where is the fundamental misunderstanding? I understand that alot of black people feel margainalized, subjugated and abused. I was born in the US, live in PA. Years ago when BLM popped up i read about the movement. That made sense then. This shit in 2020 is just Liberal sanctioned anarchy.

So 2 things are possible then. Either BLM picked a really bad name, or they intend to direct your thoughts and public policy. (As they are currently doing, quite overtly)

If black lives matter doesn't fall into the category of all lives matter, then BLM is placing themselves a step higher on the ladder of importance. If told that using any phrase regarding human lives, other than BLM is racism, they are deciding on their own what speech is allowed in the USA. It's a slippery slope from "this otherwise innocuous phrase is racist" to, "we'll throw you in the gulag for expressing dissent."

I miss the OG black panthers. Those cats made their agenda crystal clear.

Far Left-----------Me Going WTF?-----------Far Right

[kjs86z]

You can't say "All Lives Matter" and then kill the fly that accidentally landed on your monitor that's 'annoying you' - the fly has a life too. Bedbugs? Yup, can't kill those, as all lives matter. Those attracted to children? Yeah, can't treat them any different. 'All Lives Matter', right?



rofl you cannot be serious

[TheSurgeon]

rofl you cannot be serious

Drugs.

[Woke Locc]

It doesn't necessarily make you a racist, it just implies you fundamentally misunderstand what black lives matter means.

If a house in your neighborhood is on fire and someone says "We need to save that house" and you respond "Every house deserves to not be on fire" that doesn't make you an arson but it also doesn't do anything to move the issue. The house is still on fire.

Do pictures help?
https://theamericanbystander.substack.com/p/all-lives-matter-guy

Is this one of them things like where 'abolish the police' really means 'police reform' but a lot of people aren't smart enough to understand it, like Rick and Morty?

[Trexller]

"Black Lives Matter" is a valid statement. It's something everyone can agree on. It doesn't mean they are superior to other lives, nor lesser than others. It means you treat one person of a specific peripheral construct (race) as the same as another peripheral construct.

Anyone arguing anything other than that (ie; All Lives Matter, Blue Lives Matter, etc.) means that you support the systematic destruction of a particular group of people that you visually see as inferior based on <attribute here>. You can't say "All Lives Matter" and then kill the fly that accidentally landed on your monitor that's 'annoying you' - the fly has a life too. Bedbugs? Yup, can't kill those, as all lives matter. Those attracted to children? Yeah, can't treat them any different. 'All Lives Matter', right?

Cops are not a race. They're a profession you pick much later in life. You can't look at a cop out of the womb and say "Yeah, this dude's gonna be a cop."

They are a social construct, not one based on your sense of vision. They are based on emotion to a society founded on rules. Society once existed without officers, laws, and political biases. The only thing that hasn't changed is that black individuals are black and still systematically oppressed for centuries.

So instead of being racist, sexist, or whatever -ist, how about propping up the people you are close to and know need help, regardless of the way they were born? After all, we can't judge books by their cover.

Actions speak louder than sitting here on this EverQuest forum saying about how you'll do something instead of actually getting involved and doing your part to make sure it ends.

I personally took it upon myself on multiple occasions and sat with people one-on-one that I care about, and helped them get on their feet, expecting nothing in return. Can you say you've done the same, or have you just posted on message boards and social media about how 'people need to do it' - well, guess what, you are a person. Stop preaching to the choir and start making better choices.

Everything except the green text makes good sense. Afaik pedophiles are reviled by every race, we all throw em in prison. Bugs are not humans therefore not entitled to human rights.

This entire issue is really tough to negotiate, I see alot of people making very different statements but in general it seems they all have the same thought in their head: Equal Rights Means Equal Rights!

Maybe the vagueness of it all is purposeful. Here on this forum we can't seem to agree on terminology, across the USA no one can seem to agree either.

A divided house cannot stand. Divide and conquer etc. This sort of discussion must continue, even on an EverQuest Forum.

As long as we are trying to agree, we aren't fighting. That's a house that can stand. That's a nation that can stand up.

[Jimjam]

What I hear is "Black Lives Matter More". That is totally racist. F the implicit BS, add "Too" to the slogan if that is what it is supposed to mean.

I think BLM2 is being saved for the sequel next decade.

[Bigsham]

Everything alive deserves to live and prosper. Everything that can feel deserves to feel good. From the best of us to the worst of us, that truth is self evident.

However sometimes i get the impression that some groups fighting for equal rights are not seeking equality, they are seeking supremacy.

When they stand in the streets and protest, they are exercising their rights and bringing attention to real problems in the nation/world.

When they destroy property and kill people, they are waging war!!

I'm a Korean guy IRL. So maybe the white experience/black experience is lost on me. I've heard "asian C word" thrown at me a few times in my life, its sort of a, huh? thing. Asians in general don't seem to be bothered by racism directed at them. I haven't been offended... and i do get offended easily. I'll chew your face off for much lesser offenses than racism.

But when I read/hear that saying "all lives matter" makes you a racist, That to me screams that BLM is seeking Supremacy.

Bacteria is alive, so is a virus

covid19 requires human hosts, does it deserve to live?

What about a morbol fly or a mosquito ?

How about a leech?

Rabies?

[Trexller]

Yeah from a natural standpoint, mother nature/god/universe/flying spaghetti monster/M theory/evolution/pick one has brought these organisms to exist as what we would call "life" so by that school of thought, they earned it.

a virus isn't exactly alive by the terms with which we would usually define life. its organic for sure, very very different from bacteria though.

Sure theres living things that suck for humans, that just sucks for us. The spectrum of life is vastly diverse. We humans do take great measures to place or remove other forms of life, nature gave us the ability to do so. So we do. We plant gardens, we kill weeds, we disinfect toilets, we raise animals on massive factory farms etc.

This concept however, applied to a human civil rights debate is abhorrent.

[Woke Locc]

Yeah from a natural standpoint, mother nature/god/universe/flying spaghetti monster/M theory/evolution/pick one has brought these organisms to exist as what we would call "life" so by that school of thought, they earned it.

a virus isn't exactly alive by the terms with which we would usually define life. its organic for sure, very very different from bacteria though.

Sure theres living things that suck for humans, that just sucks for us. The spectrum of life is vastly diverse. We humans do take great measures to place or remove other forms of life, nature gave us the ability to do so. So we do. We plant gardens, we kill weeds, we disinfect toilets, we raise animals on massive factory farms etc.

This concept however, applied to a human civil rights debate is abhorrent.

Viruses are made of star stuff

[Trexller]

Viruses are made of star stuff

Everything that is anything is made of Star Dust
all elements from helium to iron are made in the fusion of hydrogen and so on. Everything heavier than iron is produced from a type 1A supernova. That's a big enough boom to out-shine a galaxy.

-Carl Sagan

[Bigsham]

Yeah from a natural standpoint, mother nature/god/universe/flying spaghetti monster/M theory/evolution/pick one has brought these organisms to exist as what we would call "life" so by that school of thought, they earned it.

a virus isn't exactly alive by the terms with which we would usually define life. its organic for sure, very very different from bacteria though.

Sure theres living things that suck for humans, that just sucks for us. The spectrum of life is vastly diverse. We humans do take great measures to place or remove other forms of life, nature gave us the ability to do so. So we do. We plant gardens, we kill weeds, we disinfect toilets, we raise animals on massive factory farms etc.

This concept however, applied to a human civil rights debate is abhorrent.

But bacteria and virus's are alive, and we need them.

Our planet is too overpopulated and we will need them to reduce that, This pandemic isnt that bad, but future ones will be. With a high population its very easy for them to spread

go look at how many cases they have in wyoming or idaho

our population density is too high in this world, we need to lose 60% or more

we will lose around 10% with covid

[Trexller]

I can agree.

Thanos was right and should have been left to his work.

side note: a virus isn't a living organism, this is the reason they are so damn hard to treat

[Woke Locc]

Malthusianism smells and is incorrect fellas

[Blingy]

we will lose around 10% with covid

Not sure how you came up with this number but what the hell.

Currently about 1% of the USA has been infected; 3,242,073 out of 328,200,000. Of that 3.2M about 135k have died; or about 4%. I'm not following other countries (except New Zeland simply because they haven't had a recorded covid-19 case in over a month).

In order for the USA to loose 10% that means 32.28 million people will need to die to this thing. Yea, I don't see that happening. Considering the world population is just shy of 8 billion does that mean you're really expecting 800,000,000 people to die to this thing?

Sorry, the sniff test doesn't agree with you.

Oh:
Idaho, US
Population: 1,787,000
Confirmed: 9,929 (0.55%)
Deaths: 101
Recovered: 3,066
Active: 6,762

Wyoming, US
Population: 578,759
Confirmed: 1,839 (0.3%)
Deaths: 21
Recovered: 1,361
Active: 457

[Nilstoniakrath]

Not sure how you came up with this number but what the hell.

Currently about 1% of the USA has been infected; 3,242,073 out of 328,200,000. Of that 3.2M about 135k have died; or about 4%. I'm not following other countries (except New Zeland simply because they haven't had a recorded covid-19 case in over a month).

In order for the USA to loose 10% that means 32.28 million people will need to die to this thing. Yea, I don't see that happening. Considering the world population is just shy of 8 billion does that mean you're really expecting 800,000,000 people to die to this thing?

Sorry, the sniff test doesn't agree with you.

Oh:
Idaho, US
Population: 1,787,000
Confirmed: 9,929 (0.55%)
Deaths: 101
Recovered: 3,066
Active: 6,762

Wyoming, US
Population: 578,759
Confirmed: 1,839 (0.3%)
Deaths: 21
Recovered: 1,361
Active: 457

Its all BS. Any old geezer about to die who tests positive for COVID19 is a COVID19 death. Nonsense. My mom died recently she had cancer heart problems and 3 or 4 other issues, they never could tell me what she died from. And I am expected to believe them now? Sure

[Secrets]

rofl you cannot be serious

I, of course, am serious in the sense of satirical humor being used to prove a point.

The issue with the statement "All Lives Matter" is if we truly believed that as a society, we would be well on our way to utopia. "All Lives Matter" means that regardless of <attribute here> we should give everyone a fair chance regardless of their history. That means no exceptions. Which, arguably, isn't reasonable when you consider the past actions of other individuals.

The problem then becomes where we draw the line on when past history should become acceptable to forgive... should it be over something as petty as annoying someone (ie; online trolling), something as unforgivable as robbery / theft, or something as bad as rape / murder / child abuse?

And there's no easy answer to that.

There is, however, an easy answer to "Black Lives Matter", which is, if I didn't know someone, and treated them differently because they are black and not knowing what they did in the past, I would be considered racist because I judged without knowing their backstory.

I can't say "All Lives Matter" after reading that someone was convicted for raping a kid and then having the same guy move in next door. I would outright judge them without knowing them, keep my children away from them, etc. I can't say the same about if a black man moved next door to me, without getting to know him or his history. And I certainly wouldn't judge him because he's black. So of course, by first glance, "Black Lives Matter" but certainly not "All Lives Matter."

I should mention I am fairly conservative and part of due process means that you give everyone a chance to defend themselves in a court of law. Many people of all backgrounds never get a chance to defend themselves as they are judged by racists, sexists, homophobes and others that are in charge of law enforcement - before they even get to a court of law. That is the issue. It has nothing to do with race.

[Blingy]

Its all BS. Any old geezer about to die who tests positive for COVID19 is a COVID19 death. Nonsense. My mom died recently she had cancer heart problems and 3 or 4 other issues, they never could tell me what she died from. And I am expected to believe them now? Sure

You're preaching to the choir here. Between my dad, mom, step mom and mother-in-law there's over a dozen issues between them. If any of them contract covid-19 it'll do them in. I'm in the very early stages of a few health issues that will need to be managed for the rest of my life. If I catch this thing it'll kick me square in the nads.

[Ennewi]

George Washington Carver, his parents slaves, was abducted along with his mother and sister by slave raiders and sold off. A family friend(?) actually tracked him down but failed to locate the others. Raised in Kansas, he studied the surrounding plants extensively by hand and would go on to earn a full scholarship only to be denied entry later upon arriving at the college, due to his skin color.

In 1948, Nat King Cole bought a house in the all-white Hancock Park development, central LA. His neighbors, some of them reported to have been members of the KKK, sued to block the purchase and, when those efforts failed, eventually burned a cross and racial slurs on his front lawn. Their family dog also died around the same time, from poisoning.

R.L. Burnside
https://www.westword.com/music/still-burning-5059806

APRIL 22, 1999 The harshness of this schedule was exacerbated only by the bigotry that was part and parcel of living in the Mississippi Delta. "Yeah, racism was just an everyday thing," notes Burnside, who currently resides near the Mississippi community of Holly Springs.

Since the children of plantation workers were required to begin toiling alongside their parents by the time they were eight or nine, Burnside didn't get much traditional schooling, but his education in the blues was second to none.

Of course there are other historical, non-black examples as well. Italian and Irish immigrants suffered mistreatment not so long ago in America's past and this is true, even now, among the Appalachians and American Indians. But in mentioning them, other more specific examples come to mind which were subject to different forms of discrimination. Alan Turing, homosexual. Adhara Perez, autist.

As is often the case, most people are not exactly candidates for sainthood, but that is besides the point. It does not seem at all controversial to suggest that the human race stands to gain much, and lose nothing, by ridding itself of long-held prejudices. A person or group of people cannot conceivably take on all of the prejudice that exists in the world however, just as an epidemiologist or team of researchers cannot develop a cure-all for every disease known to man.

In todays political climate if there's a clear leader then it's easy to point to a figurehead and say "those are the policies this group supports." BLM doesn't really have this, except for when ultra conservaties will point to their "leaders" being trained marxists or something. The "movement" is difficult to criticize at the moment, because it's not really clear what policies they support. At the same time the organization will lack direction due to leadership.

Fair point. While movements are not to be confused with mobs, mob mentality can take over in the absence of leadership. Still, it should come as no surprise that there would be no singular, immediately identifiable figure guiding the movement considering what happened to those who previously took the leadership role upon themselves. A tall tree attracts wind.

[Bigsham]

You're preaching to the choir here. Between my dad, mom, step mom and mother-in-law there's over a dozen issues between them. If any of them contract covid-19 it'll do them in. I'm in the very early stages of a few health issues that will need to be managed for the rest of my life. If I catch this thing it'll kick me square in the nads.

Everyone will get covid

EVERYONE

there is no cure coming, even if a vaccine was done tomorrow we dont have a million medical grade vials let alone 400 million or a way to distribute it

people are so in the dark here

[Bigsham]

Not sure how you came up with this number but what the hell.

Currently about 1% of the USA has been infected; 3,242,073 out of 328,200,000. Of that 3.2M about 135k have died; or about 4%. I'm not following other countries (except New Zeland simply because they haven't had a recorded covid-19 case in over a month).

In order for the USA to loose 10% that means 32.28 million people will need to die to this thing. Yea, I don't see that happening. Considering the world population is just shy of 8 billion does that mean you're really expecting 800,000,000 people to die to this thing?

Sorry, the sniff test doesn't agree with you.

Oh:
Idaho, US
Population: 1,787,000
Confirmed: 9,929 (0.55%)
Deaths: 101
Recovered: 3,066
Active: 6,762

Wyoming, US
Population: 578,759
Confirmed: 1,839 (0.3%)
Deaths: 21
Recovered: 1,361
Active: 457

What?

Florida has a 33% infection rate thats 1 in 3, and most people have not been tested

infection rate in major cities is 50%

[DMN]

What?

Florida has a 33% infection rate thats 1 in 3, and most people have not been tested

infection rate in major cities is 50%

Where are you getting these absurd numbers from? The global warming hucksters dipping into a new racket?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109004/coronavirus-covid19-cases-rate-us-americans-by-state/

[Bigsham]

Friday / Saturday local news here in florida

12k cases on sat 10k friday and averaging 10k per day

[Secrets]

So all lives matter is a no go because if someone (white, yellow, brown, red, etc) was eg convicted for raping a kid you couldn't care less about his/her (PC?) life. Fair enough. Maybe i missed it but are you implying blacks are unable to fall into that category ? And if a black is a pedophile, just one, will you stop saying black lives matter just the same way you can't allow yourself to say all lives matter ?

Perhaps you should stop acting like a victim and blame everything negative in life being a cause of the white man. Everyone has hardships in life. If there was a white supremacy and real racism in the US, no white person would live in poverty and no black person would get anywhere. But what a surprise, there's plenty of government positions held by democratic blacks. Do they care about their people tho ? For some reason the states and cities held the longest by democrats are also the most crime infested and biggest shitholes you could possibly live in.
Care to explain that ? And why you still feel like democrats are your allies ?
Also, if a simple humanitarian statement like "All lives matter" makes you angry and triggered, you should seriously seek medical help. Something is wrong in your brain. If only black lives matter, you're not better then Hitler.

I'm not 'acting like a victim', nor am I claiming to be a victim. I am simply stating I would not judge a black man by his skin color and rather the actions he has done.

Additionally, I did not mention democrats are my allies, *You*, however, have stated that. I personally think the two-party divisiveness in the US is a cancer that needs to go away - forever. PACs determine the opinion of each party and anything short of what they believe in outcasts you from them.

What is the party for those who believe in anti-discrimination laws, separation of church and state (which would INCLUDE separating the concept marriage from the state which means *all* marriage would be invalidated), pro-abortion, pro-2nd amendment, keeping the concept of local, state and federal separation, and ability to have representatives to choose from that aren't just from two parties that may differ from one of those ideals?

There is no 'political party' for someone who has their own opinions, and that's a problem. We pick between the lesser of 2 evils instead of our ideal candidate. We say things like "banning PACs would work", but we all know that's not true - if history has told us anything, doing so will not matter.

Republican, democrats, they're all the same shitheads under different names with slightly different opinions on issues that may not even be problems to the people they are serving. They peddle agendas for their own interests and power, all behind the guise of the rule of law. It's systematically broken and the best part is you all *believe* these people that are part of <party name here> are in your interest and not their own.

Regarding the "Black Lives Matter" statement, I never claimed that 'Only Black Lives Matter', quite the opposite. This is not a matter of political theatrics or putting one life above another, but instead of basic literary comprehension of the words you are stating.

I have no political affiliation except the interest of seeing the human race enjoy itself in harmony. Hence why I spent 16 years of my life preserving a game I used to play so that people like you would have the chance of enjoying this game in its many forms.

[BlackBellamy]

It definitely does seem like we seem to be headed toward a brave new world/1984 hybrid. It’s some weird shit.

There's more dystopias than four - it's a veritable feast if you let your imagination go.

Still if one is going to assign a reasonable probability to all possible dystopian futures, I think it's Post-Nuclear Holocaust Society 90% and everything else put together 10%. North Korea might nuke South Korea. We might have to nuke North Korea. China might nuke us. India could nuke China. Pakistan might nuke India. Russia could nuke like eight different people. The we nuke whoever is left, Great Britain and France for sure, also Iran. I'm assuming Israel nukes the entire Middle East and also Berlin for good measure and then nukes themselves.

If anything you're going to be scavenging gasoline in the wasteland. That's the most probable future. It won't matter if you're woke or what your definition of racist is because your life is going to be Fallout 1,2, and 3 (Not 4 of course because it sucked and also Boston sucks, go Yankees!)

Or if you're on a budget, Damnation Alley by Roger Zelazny.

[Woke Locc]

I'm not 'acting like a victim', nor am I claiming to be a victim. I am simply stating I would not judge a black man by his skin color and rather the actions he has done.

Additionally, I did not mention democrats are my allies, *You*, however, have stated that. I personally think the two-party divisiveness in the US is a cancer that needs to go away - forever. PACs determine the opinion of each party and anything short of what they believe in outcasts you from them.

What is the party for those who believe in anti-discrimination laws, separation of church and state (which would INCLUDE separating the concept marriage from the state which means *all* marriage would be invalidated), pro-abortion, pro-2nd amendment, keeping the concept of local, state and federal separation, and ability to have representatives to choose from that aren't just from two parties that may differ from one of those ideals?

There is no 'political party' for someone who has their own opinions, and that's a problem. We pick between the lesser of 2 evils instead of our ideal candidate. We say things like "banning PACs would work", but we all know that's not true - if history has told us anything, doing so will not matter.

Republican, democrats, they're all the same shitheads under different names with slightly different opinions on issues that may not even be problems to the people they are serving. They peddle agendas for their own interests and power, all behind the guise of the rule of law. It's systematically broken and the best part is you all *believe* these people that are part of <party name here> are in your interest and not their own.

Regarding the "Black Lives Matter" statement, I never claimed that 'Only Black Lives Matter', quite the opposite. This is not a matter of political theatrics or putting one life above another, but instead of basic literary comprehension of the words you are stating.

I have no political affiliation except the interest of seeing the human race enjoy itself in harmony. Hence why I spent 16 years of my life preserving a game I used to play so that people like you would have the chance of enjoying this game in its many forms.

Have u ever voted third party?

Also a marriage ban sounds perfect in text but ohhh boy would you get your head chopped off :D

[TheSurgeon]

These boards are amazing. Every time I come here I get to witness another living monument to autism.

[Woke Locc]

These boards are amazing. Every time I come here I get to witness another living monument to autism.

https://i.imgur.com/AHG2uMD.gif

[magnetaress]

Starkind will judge any man by their scent or attractiveness. However there's limits, like starkind wouldn't deny their essential humanity against their will. Starkinds on the other hand like criticism, exploration, and discovery of their innate properties that set them apart from mere men.

Incidentally Starkinds are so brilliant and powerful that starkinds will clear and order entire spheres of simple matter around them in order to form and shape the SAEZ into a varied and interesting cosmological ecosystem. It can be very dangerous for men to come into direct contact with Starkinds and some may believe that this is prejudicial or personal. However Starkind will not go out of Starkinds way in a deliberately malicious manner to target specific men or men types.

[Bigsham]

15,400 cases confirmed in florida today

[Woke Locc]

Starkind will judge any man by their scent or attractiveness. However there's limits, like starkind wouldn't deny their essential humanity against their will. Starkinds on the other hand like criticism, exploration, and discovery of their innate properties that set them apart from mere men.

Incidentally Starkinds are so brilliant and powerful that starkinds will clear and order entire spheres of simple matter around them in order to form and shape the SAEZ into a varied and interesting cosmological ecosystem. It can be very dangerous for men to come into direct contact with Starkinds and some may believe that this is prejudicial or personal. However Starkind will not go out of Starkinds way in a deliberately malicious manner to target specific men or men types.

Are u gonna eat me?

[Secrets]

Have u ever voted third party?

Once. But the problem is that *even if I did*, people are too close-minded to consider the possibility that we could vote outside of the two parties, despite the United States being one (if not the only, now) of the only countries in North America & Europe to still have that.

[Blingy]

What?

Florida has a 33% infection rate thats 1 in 3, and most people have not been tested

infection rate in major cities is 50%

Florida population: 21,480,000
Confirmed: 269,811 ... 1.25% of the population infected
Deaths: 4,242 ............0.02% of the population dead
Recovered:
Active: 265,569

Florida is one of the states that is NOT tracking recovered stats:
https://covidtracking.com/data

Total tests: 2,574,007
Negative: 2,304,196
Pending: 2,096
Currently Hospitalized: 7,542
Cumulative Hospitalized: 18,590

[DMN]

Friday / Saturday local news here in florida

12k cases on sat 10k friday and averaging 10k per day

And it's a state of over 20 million people, or 20000K people. It's about 2 weeks it will last. So worst case scenario you are talking about 140k total cases.

I really hope you can see that 140/20000 does not equal anything even close to 33%. In fact, it's not even 1%.

[Arvan]

Lol most of you never leave your parent’s basement and it shows

[DMN]

https://i.imgur.com/b0cOHBq.gif

[Bigsham]

And it's a state of over 20 million people, or 20000K people. It's about 2 weeks it will last. So worst case scenario you are talking about 140k total cases.

I really hope you can see that 140/20000 does not equal anything even close to 33%. In fact, it's not even 1%.

I was sick for 4 months

2 weeks? You definitley havent been sick yet

you will have to come out eventually

[Secrets]

Lol most of you never leave your parent’s basement and it shows

You're implying my parents are rich enough to have a basement or an attic.

[gherron]

But when I read/hear that saying "all lives matter" makes you a racist, That to me screams that BLM is seeking Supremacy.

if you ask Nick Cannon and Dwayne Wade, then yeah they'd say something like this. If you ask most others, then it's about black lives matter TOO and not MORE.


also, anyone going to Disney World? heard they're open.

[Trexller]

yeah that nick cannon thing was weird.

almost as weird as Joe Biden's, "If you vote for trump, you ain't black"

[Muggens]

Starkind will judge any man by their scent or attractiveness.

Same here, if u dont smell and look good I wont talk to ya

[gherron]

yeah that nick cannon thing was weird.

almost as weird as Joe Biden's, "If you vote for trump, you ain't black"

let's not be hyperbolic (which is a stupid request on these forums of all places). Nick cannon is a HATEFUL piece of shit and i'm glad the cancel-culture is getting deployed on all sides.

Biden's statement is ignorant as fuck and a gaffe which is not the same as calling a whole group of people "savages" or "animals" because of their skin tone.

[Fame]

BBC cuck porn goin mainstream was only the beginning.

History goes to the victor.

One side is actively tearing down statues to rewrite history.

The other side looks on in aroused horror and then cleans up.

Sorry you lost.

[gherron]

One side is actively tearing down statues to rewrite history.


which statues?

[Snortles Chortles]

you ain’t Erudite

[Fame]

which statues?

These are the only monuments ya need to worry about now. (http://www.blacked.com)

NSFW

[Fame]

you ain’t Erudite

:cool:

[Snortles Chortles]

https://i.imgur.com/7kqvx.gif

[kjs86z]

https://youtu.be/olDHGTkePh8

[DMN]

Who is the red-tarded clown with the cuck fetish? Do fuck off and try to get banned in someone else's thread.

[peterpal]

Calling democrats the far-left - the president even calls them radical left - always shows me how extremely right wing and out of balance the states really are.

[Patriam1066]

Calling democrats the far-left - the president even calls them radical left - always shows me how extremely right wing and out of balance the states really are.

Barack Obama was a republican

[Nilstoniakrath]

Calling democrats the far-left - the president even calls them radical left - always shows me how extremely right wing and out of balance the states really are.

Of course, it cannot be that the far left is far left... that would disrupt your narrative. btw gfu

[gherron]

Of course, it cannot be that the far left is far left... that would disrupt your narrative. btw gfu

STFU this is not true.

US government and parties (democrats) ARE right leaning - with the Republicans being quite close to the Taliban, and the Democrats being close to the center (outliers like Bernie lean way far left). If any of these parties were far left you would see a government and services that would be similar to those in Western Europe.

[peterpal]

It is a basically a one party system with one side being doing the fascist dogwhistle and the other pretends to be on some social issues.

Compared to the rest of the world both sides are right wing. Liberals would not be considered anywhere close to left.

[Woke Locc]

It is a basically a one party system with one side being doing the fascist dogwhistle and the other pretends to be on some social issues.

Compared to the rest of the world both sides are right wing. Liberals would not be considered anywhere close to left.

Heavy hangs the head that wears the crown

[Fame]

Who is the red-tarded clown with the cuck fetish? Do fuck off and try to get banned in someone else's thread.

She loves you still pal.

She just needs her lover.

Sorry you lost.

[Nilstoniakrath]

It is a basically a one party system with one side being doing the fascist dogwhistle and the other pretends to be on some social issues.

Compared to the rest of the world both sides are right wing. Liberals would not be considered anywhere close to left.

I agree that the DNC is incompetent and corrupt to the core, only interested in holding power and collecting donations... just like the RNC. Both play their base on issues for maximum outrage, seeking partisanship and not solutions

[Trexller]

I agree that the DNC is incompetent and corrupt to the core, only interested in holding power and collecting donations... just like the RNC. Both play their base on issues for maximum outrage, seeking partisanship and not solutions

The solution is partisanship. The mistake is thinking that there are 2 political parties. We fight among ourselves while the chessboard pieces are moved in the shadows.

Divide and Conquer.

It's all one global production on the march toward one-world-communist-government.

[Kennie]

She loves you still pal.

She just needs her lover.

Sorry you lost.

wacko

[Bigsham]

wacko

[60 Oracle] Angerclaw (Barbarian) <Old World>
[60 Assassin] Kennie Kardashian (Dwarf) <Old World>
[60 Grandmaster] Moogoo Gai`Pan (Iksar) <Old World>
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[60 Warlock] Zlandicarmelo Anthony (Iksar) <Old World>
[60 Phantasmist] Enchanty Bobanty (Gnome) <Old World>

[Gwaihir]

STFU this is not true.

US government and parties (democrats) ARE right leaning - with the Republicans being quite close to the Taliban, and the Democrats being close to the center (outliers like Bernie lean way far left). If any of these parties were far left you would see a government and services that would be similar to those in Western Europe.

Define "too far" left........

[Kennie]

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[60 Grandmaster] Moogoo Gai`Pan (Iksar) <Old World>
[60 Crusader] Stunning Likemydaddy (Dwarf) <Old World>
[60 Virtuoso] Smello Asselerando (Half Elf) <Old World>
[60 Warlock] Zlandicarmelo Anthony (Iksar) <Old World>
[60 Phantasmist] Enchanty Bobanty (Gnome) <Old World>

It's been done in this thread already, bigidiot. BTW your posts are absolute shit, moron. Go sell some more sanitizer, poorsie.

[gherron]

Define "too far" left........

In Europe (generally speaking): anti-globalist/anti-capitalist, seeking to fully redistribute the wealth from the rich elites

In the US: apparently telling the Republican Death Panel that they shouldn't open schools because kids will die, or providing healthcare for all citizens (which even poor-ass countries in South America do), or stating police should face consequences for killing/raping citizens.

[Nilstoniakrath]

In Europe (generally speaking): anti-globalist/anti-capitalist, seeking to fully redistribute the wealth from the rich elites

In the US: apparently telling the Republican Death Panel that they shouldn't open schools because kids will die

Name one kid who has died from covid19

[DMN]

There are going to be many times more kids dying from lack of adult supervision if they don't go back to school.

Urban leftist filth have been destroying children in a variety of ways for political gain for decades, though, so this is nothing new.

[Bigsham]

Name one kid who has died from covid19

The kid that thought it was fake and went to the covid party and died LOL

[Gwaihir]

In Europe (generally speaking): anti-globalist/anti-capitalist, seeking to fully redistribute the wealth from the rich elites

In the US: apparently telling the Republican Death Panel that they shouldn't open schools because kids will die, or providing healthcare for all citizens (which even poor-ass countries in South America do), or stating police should face consequences for killing/raping citizens.

Anti-globalist is "left" now?

So like....being pro-nationalist is now "Left"? and "too far left" to boot?

Clown World.

Puts underwear on head, and socks on ears.

alright, let's rock n roll; I'm ready to be more equal than others.

[hobart]

Anti-globalist is "left" now?

So like....being pro-nationalist is now "Left"? and "too far left" to boot?

Clown World.

Puts underwear on head, and socks on ears.

alright, let's rock n roll; I'm ready to be more equal than others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G5eEJTtKUw

[Rader]

The kid that thought it was fake and went to the covid party and died LOL

Names? or just another Biden imposter death. We are on to you, you lefty F tards looking to stir up sh-t despite the evidence-based results that show no F ing reason to quarantine or social distance unless you are totally F ing stupid

[Gwaihir]

Names? or just another Biden imposter death. We are on to you, you lefty F tards looking to stir up sh-t despite the evidence-based results that show no F ing reason to quarantine or social distance unless you are totally F ing stupid

They're rightys now. See above.

[Gwaihir]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G5eEJTtKUw

Under rated

[Snortles Chortles]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G5eEJTtKUw

"i'm listening"

[Bigsham]

Names? or just another Biden imposter death. We are on to you, you lefty F tards looking to stir up sh-t despite the evidence-based results that show no F ing reason to quarantine or social distance unless you are totally F ing stupid

Was on the world news 3 nights in a row basically got made fun of.

Sorry you dont watch the news

[Asteria]

So all lives matter is a no go because if someone (white, yellow, brown, red, etc) was eg convicted for raping a kid you couldn't care less about his/her (PC?) life. Fair enough. Maybe i missed it but are you implying blacks are unable to fall into that category ? And if a black is a pedophile, just one, will you stop saying black lives matter just the same way you can't allow yourself to say all lives matter ?

Perhaps you should stop acting like a victim and blame everything negative in life being a cause of the white man. Everyone has hardships in life. If there was a white supremacy and real racism in the US, no white person would live in poverty and no black person would get anywhere. But what a surprise, there's plenty of government positions held by democratic blacks. Do they care about their people tho ? For some reason the states and cities held the longest by democrats are also the most crime infested and biggest shitholes you could possibly live in.
Care to explain that ? And why you still feel like democrats are your allies ?
Also, if a simple humanitarian statement like "All lives matter" makes you angry and triggered, you should seriously seek medical help. Something is wrong in your brain. If only black lives matter, you're not better then Hitler.

Gross, another new anon account? Just use one of your 10+ that already exist LOL :eek::D

[Bigsham]

im sure he would if staff didnt ban people for posting words on an internet forum

how many times have you been banned asteria? Yet here you are !

im sure you didnt anon post once during those times either !

[kjs86z]

https://i.imgur.com/Pd6CCT5.png

[Woke Locc]

https://i.imgur.com/Pd6CCT5.png

Dope open borders meme!

[douglas1999]

Extremely fit, good looking people and extremely fat ugly people exhibit a serious disparity in justice and equality! How should we address this?

For example, an attractive black woman has an extreme advantage over a 300lb ugly white doofus (p99 players) in basically every possible measurable way.

Therefor, I feel the solution is to horrendously mutilate both parties until they look roughly the same.

[Asteria]

im sure he would if staff didnt ban people for posting words on an internet forum

how many times have you been banned asteria? Yet here you are !

im sure you didnt anon post once during those times either !

Of course I didn't :)

Nice justification of alt accounts though, it's pretty obvious now you must have at least one... ;)

[Swish]

A thought provoking thread.