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Just trying to learn... On green but probably doesn't matter which server.
I made it to Shralock camp. Some higher level (46 I think) Cleric sits a little away and spider placeholder is spawned. Based on high level of a player I though camp is empty.
I sent a tell asking if player is camping Shralock. No answer. Afer few minutes of waiting I sent another tell, informing player I will kill spider, Shralock placeholder. No response. So I kill it. Few minutes later I sent another tell. No response. Player is AFK.
6 and half minutes after I killed spider, new one spawns. At that time player moves, still no tell responses and kills it. Total I was waiting there for some 8, 9 maybe 10 minutes. Based on what I have read, there is rule, that player should response in a 'reasonable' time. I was there longer than one placeholder rotation and after some waiting I killed placeholder.
Player did offer to share the camp with me, so we share/loot share packs between us, but I decided to rather come back later. I'm just curious, if camp at that time was mine or not? Or it was a gray area?
greenspectre
06-21-2020, 11:24 AM
I believe the PNP policy states you must kill the PH within a "reasonable amount of time" or you forfeit the camp. I think Menden has been seen saying 5 mins or so is a good cutoff point. So if you waited 5 mins and made attempts to communicate, I'd say yes, the camp is yours. Players are allowed to AFK while camping mobs, but are responsible for keeping track of their timers and such.
loramin
06-21-2020, 11:26 AM
To a certain extent everything is gray, if it's not spelled out in the Play Nice Policies. That being said, it sounds to me like he was clearly AFK, you killed a PH, and that made it your camp from that point out. If he'd interrupted your killing of the PH, or even said something maybe a minute after, there might be some gray area, but certainly not if he waited an entire cycle.
Seems clear cut to me: dude AFKed while holding camp, it 100% became your's, you were nice and gave it back to him even though he legitimately lost it to you.
OK good to know, thank you both for responding. I assumed as such, but though to rather ask. And, to be honest, Shralock will still be there later too, I will get my chance ;)
loramin
06-21-2020, 11:29 AM
I believe the PNP policy states you must kill the PH within a "reasonable amount of time" or you forfeit the camp. I think Menden has been seen saying 5 mins or so is a good cutoff point. So if you waited 5 mins and made attempts to communicate, I'd say yes, the camp is yours. Players are allowed to AFK while camping mobs, but are responsible for keeping track of their timers and such.
5 minutes was an example given with an extremely long (18 hour window) mob. It's not so much "5 minutes is how long you have to wait" as it is "the staff has never told us how long to wait, except in an insane extreme case, which we know is 5 minutes ... ergo the 'real' time to wait for any particular camp is somewhere between 0 and 5 minutes".
But if you see someone sitting at an ordinary (eg. 30 min respawn time) spawn doing nothing, you hail and try to talk to them for a minute and get no response ... I would be really surprised if a GM said you broke the rules if you then killed the mob.
loramin
06-21-2020, 11:36 AM
OK good to know, thank you both for responding. I assumed as such, but though to rather ask. And, to be honest, Shralock will still be there later, I will get my chance ;)
:) Good attitude. And look, there was a human being behind that keyboard, who maybe was doing that camp for awhile, had to go to the bathroom, and came back to find you there.
Even if the server rules say you "own" that camp ... I think being nicer to your fellow players (nicer than the bare minimum required by the rules) certainly isn't a bad thing! And who knows, it may pay off someday if that player gives you a rez or port or some other assistance in return.
BlackBellamy
06-21-2020, 11:59 AM
Long story short the camp was yours.
You don't seem like an argumentative type based on your description so leaving was probably the wisest move aggravation-wise considering it's a low value camp. I mean probably not to you at your level, but believe me if you're going to lawyerquest it's best to save that for Frenzy or AM level camps where the difference is measured in 1000s of plat because the process is aggravating and no one winds up making any friends during.
This is the proper way to dislodge an AFK camper:
Turn on log and start recording with OBS.
/t guy are you camping X?
/t guy hi are you awake? the ph is up
/ooc cc pls
/ooc guy is sitting at X with ph up and afk
/ooc claiming X
Wait one full spawn timer with PH up.
/t guy ok going to take the PH, it's been a full spawn cycle
Kill PH.
Stand in PH spawn point and turn on auto-attack.
When PH spawns, target PH to establish FTE with your melee weapon. Alternatively if you have some instant-cast damage spell use that.
No one is going to dispute "reasonable" if you wait a full cycle. If the timer is 6:40, then sit there for 6:40 staring at the PH hoping your guy doesn't respond. Give him the full cycle. If you wait less then you're going to be arguing what "reasonable" means.
edit: yes this is for shorter timer camps - if you're camping something with an insane respawn time then use your judgement.
Kavious
06-21-2020, 12:46 PM
That spot is not the only spot to camp Shralok bags in Kith. Its popular since the ph doesnt roam and usually the only location mentioned
If that spawn is camped and someone still wanted to try and camp bags.. Any giant spider along the south wall can spawn Recfek Shralock. Will just have to track down a spawn spot for one to get another camp going
Also worth noting that only one Recefek can be up at a time. If you have a spot and the orc just will not spawn may need to check to see if hes already up somewhere else
greenspectre
06-22-2020, 07:22 AM
This is the proper way to dislodge an AFK camper:
Turn on log and start recording with OBS.
/t guy are you camping X?
/t guy hi are you awake? the ph is up
/ooc cc pls
/ooc guy is sitting at X with ph up and afk
/ooc claiming X
Wait one full spawn timer with PH up.
/t guy ok going to take the PH, it's been a full spawn cycle
Kill PH.
Stand in PH spawn point and turn on auto-attack.
When PH spawns, target PH to establish FTE with your melee weapon. Alternatively if you have some instant-cast damage spell use that.
You forgot the next step "Urinate around PH spawn spot to assert your territory"
aspomwell
06-22-2020, 04:14 PM
I concur that it was your camp. I would have likely given him the camp as long as he wasn't an ass.
Having said that, I hate that camp. Last time I did it I needed 3 bags. After 3 spawns (and 1 bag, yay!) someone else came by and asked how long I planned to stay. In return, I asked him if he was there to get them for himself or to sell them. He said he was selling them. I told him the camp was his if he promised to sell me the first two he got. I camped right there and played an alt, and within an hour I had two more bags and I didn't have to deal with that camp!
Now I started another alt so I'm gonna need another set of shralok packs!
valenwood
06-22-2020, 05:07 PM
Let's dispense with conjecture and open with facts.
Play Nice Policy (PNP) 2.1:
...Open Outdoor Zones can be anything from Western Wastes, Karanas or West Commons. There are no staff recognized camps for this zone type outside of single spawn points. ...If you are to claim this point you must get aggro/First to Encounter (FTE) within a reasonable amount of time.Herein lies the problem. What is a reasonable amount of time?
In the case of Hill Giants:
You can camp a single Hill Giant if that's the only one you are clearing. You must near that spawn, not kill any other Hill Giants, and engage shortly after spawn (before it starts to roam).
The time it takes for most mobs to start roaming is ~30 seconds. This means that for the majority of "regular camps" in the game, ~30-60 seconds is more than fair for gauging a reasonable amount of time. The basis being that if it was a roaming mob, it would already be moving off and going across the map and the camp is no longer theirs at that point. This is all assuming that the player in question is AFK and not actually like... actively buffing him or herself in preparation for a fight. At that point it could technically be argued that the reasonable amount of time becomes 5 minutes 10 seconds per the post below.
They can still "claim" the camp (after technically losing it) however, as long as they still get FTE before anyone else (per PNP 2.1 above).
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2657569&postcount=79
5 Minutes 10 seconds is in direct reference to Stormfeather, not necessarily every camp in the game (though presumably it would apply to other "Stormfeather like" camps).
Notice that the rules don't require you to ever communicate with the perceived "camp holder".
However, with all this being said, there will always be bullies in this game. It would be wise to (You must) protect yourself from being wrongfully accused (and convicted).
BlackBellamy's post pretty much summed up how you can do this it at every camp in the game, though I would not recommend waiting one full spawn timer and engage at the 1 minute mark instead (for regular camps with AFK camp holders, as in this case).
Another bullying point on this specific camp that I've seen and I would like to address is players telling others to leave after getting one bag.
They are misquoting this text:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1652719#post1652719
In my experience most of the bullies that I've seen pressuring people to leave after getting one bag will then sit on the camp for 20 hours straight, trading bags to friends/alts so they can stay longer (over multiple days typically as well, bullying different players every day).
This post is clearly stating that it is in reference to LORE ITEM camps that have a (presumably long) LIST (and presumably long camp as well) e.g. Ancient Cyclops.
Skarne
06-22-2020, 05:22 PM
OK good to know, thank you both for responding. I assumed as such, but though to rather ask. And, to be honest, Shralock will still be there later too, I will get my chance ;)
What a great attitude. I wish more players were like you, man. Kudos.
Muggens
06-22-2020, 07:31 PM
I never owned a Shralock pack in my life :p tink bags baby
loramin
06-22-2020, 07:37 PM
Let's dispense with conjecture and open with facts.
...
You're making a lot of assumptions. Many things in your post that you refer to as "facts" aren't actually backed up in the Play Nice Policies or by any GM quote I've ever read ... and I compiled the wiki Rulings (http://wiki.project1999.com/Rulings) page.
To be clear, I'm not saying whether what you wrote is correct or not: I'm saying that no one but the GMs know whether it is, because they haven't clarified some things (eg. the definition of "reasonable time" beyond "no more than 5 min").
I never owned a Shralock pack in my life :p tink bags baby
Me neither, until I played Green. Stuff like that is definitely part of the fun of that server :)
I never owned a Shralock pack in my life :p tink bags baby
Me neither, until I played Green. Stuff like that is definitely part of the fun of that server :)
Wait lol, what are you guys doing on Blue? Which bags do you buy and what is their average price?
Hmm, better yet, where it drops and what level you need to be to get it?
/t guy are you camping X?
/t guy hi are you awake? the ph is up
/ooc cc pls
/ooc guy is sitting at X with ph up and afk
/ooc claiming X
Wait one full spawn timer with PH up.
/t guy ok going to take the PH, it's been a full spawn cycle
Kill PH.
Thank you, did something similar today, same camp. I used /ooc and few responded letting me know they heard me. Didn't know what cc stand for, though. Camp Check I know now ;)
Ahh, today was clear cut, the player was afk for over 45 minutes, no dispute here ;)
And, had great luck, 3 Shralocs spawned in a row. After that, I passed camp right away to someone else, expecting next Shraloc spawn may take some time :)
If that spawn is camped and someone still wanted to try and camp bags.. Any giant spider along the south wall can spawn Recfek Shralock. Will just have to track down a spawn spot for one to get another camp going
Also worth noting that only one Recefek can be up at a time. If you have a spot and the orc just will not spawn may need to check to see if hes already up somewhere else
This is interesting and good to know. At least for day time. Do you happen to know, how you could determine, where is spawn point? So you kill Giant Spider, then, what you do next?
loramin
06-22-2020, 09:51 PM
This is interesting and good to know. At least for day time. Do you happen to know, how you could determine, where is spawn point? So you kill Giant Spider, then, what you do next?
If you have track, the mobs that have recently spawned appear at the top, so you could use that to find the respawns. Without track I'd imagine you'd have to run around looking.
Also, at one point I removed a loc because I tried it and didn't get Recfek. I confirmed that the other loc did work, and since usually nameds only have one spawn point I thought the other loc was just a mistake.
However, based on this conversation it sounds like perhaps I just didn't camp the other loc long enough. So, I just restored it in the wiki, but with a "?": "-479, 1095 PH is the spider next to the broken down home". Would be worthwhile for someone to try it and report back if they can get a Recfek (or don't report back, and just remove the "?" in the wiki :)).
If you have track, the mobs that have recently spawned appear at the top, so you could use that to find the respawns...
However, based on this conversation it sounds like perhaps I just didn't camp the other loc long enough. So, I just restored it in the wiki, but with a "?": "-479, 1095 PH is the spider next to the broken down home". Would be worthwhile for someone to try it and report back if they can get a Recfek (or don't report back, and just remove the "?" in the wiki :)).
Next time I'm in the neighborhood, I will check this out, thank you. And no, don't have a track, but I can at least check with 'pet attack' if Recfek is spawned...
About those bags on Blue, you players that never owned Shraloc Packs - what are you getting and where?
loramin
06-22-2020, 10:25 PM
Next time I'm in the neighborhood, I will check this out, thank you. And no, don't have a track, but I can at least check with 'pet attack' if Recfek is spawned...
About those bags on Blue, you players that never owned Shraloc Packs - what are you getting and where?
Honestly, on Loramin I mainly just used tailored backpacks. Large race strength + Shaman strength buffs made me mostly not care about weight reduction, but I think I did pick up a Bag of Sewn Evil-Eye and a Box of Nil Space at one point (I eventually sold both).
Then when I was much higher I started farming Driftwood Treasure Chests. They're like free Tink Bags, except they weigh 10, and when I say "free" ... basically it's a 1 in 100 chance every 22 minutes, so: you do the math.
My alts mainly use the tailored backpacks also, but lately I've been buying them a tink bag or two.
loramin
06-22-2020, 10:28 PM
P.S. If you're looking for options the wiki has: http://wiki.project1999.com/Bags
P.S. If you're looking for options the wiki has: http://wiki.project1999.com/Bags
Thank you. No, I have this link. But when I hear, some on Blue never used any of these 25% weight reduction bags, that are easy to get, I though, there are some bags on Blue, that are better or/and easier to get and only on Green you need to camp for these.
These Shraloc bags you can camp as lvl 12-13 and you can expect to get 2-3 per hour on average. There doesn't look like anything better faster at this level. (plus on Green they sell for 70-100p) I leveled Tailor on one toon, to be able to craft 10 slots 10WR bags. Took me quite a while, to be able to make my own hand made bags. Not to mention farming HQ bear skins lol
loramin
06-23-2020, 01:00 AM
I leveled Tailor on one toon, to be able to craft 10 slots 10WR bags. Took me quite a while, to be able to make my own hand made bags. Not to mention farming HQ bear skins lol
Exactly, whereas Blue has had a decade longer of bear murder, players leveling up their tailoring skill, and backpacks being handed down to players, so the backpacks are much easier to acquire there. Heck, even the Tailoring skill is easier to get, because there are more recipes for certain trivial levels, and there are certain places to farm components (eg. Field of Bone for silk) that don't yet exist on Green.
quido
06-23-2020, 03:35 AM
In my opinion, reasonable is 20-30 seconds. Kill your mob or fuck off with your claim.
Baler
06-23-2020, 05:42 AM
Just trying to learn...
opening with a defensive matter, not an alpha male stance.
On green but probably doesn't matter which server.
Feels like it matters which god damn server is relevant.
I made it to Shralock camp.
One of the most over camped pieces of shit camps after green came out,. You can thank me for making a proper map for you on the wiki.
0/10 thread.
Tethler
06-23-2020, 06:14 AM
opening with a defensive matter, not an alpha male stance.
Feels like it matters which god damn server is relevant.
One of the most over camped pieces of shit camps after green came out,. You can thank me for making a proper map for you on the wiki.
0/10 thread.
Lol Baler, who pissed in your cheerios this morning?
Baler
06-23-2020, 06:33 AM
Lol Baler, who pissed in your cheerios this morning?
Every new p99 player who has a complaint that's been heard before.
also I'm a grumpy old man by nature,...
opening with a defensive matter, not an alpha male stance.
Feels like it matters which god damn server is relevant.
One of the most over camped pieces of shit camps after green came out,. You can thank me for making a proper map for you on the wiki.
0/10 thread.
Are you salty over something I wrote?
Ah and thanks for the proper map on the wiki
Baler
06-23-2020, 02:21 PM
Are you salty over something I wrote?
Ah and thanks for the proper map on the wiki
I was born and raised in a salt mine. Salt is a way of life down there. Even the air is salty.
So here is why I sound eh.. pissy.
Shralok Pack
It was not extremely known on blue for the good part of.. 4-5 years. People didn't talk about it. People didn't really know how to camp it. Fast forward to today.. I knew people would be camping that 50p a pop bag 24/7 scumbag style. No offense if anyone, including myself, has spent hours 5-8+ hours there.
Pre-Kunark and pre-inflated platinum market, the demand for these bags brings the worst out in people. It was a sadness I never hoped for but inevitably became.
Yes im salty, Yes i'm sad and yes it was your camp. I've personally had people walk in on me (and others) at a camp. Sit down and claim it's theirs. Be respectful, ask them politely to move on. IF they don't comply, page a gm in game.
Don't make a thread about it. :)
I've personally had people walk in on me (and others) at a camp. Sit down and claim it's theirs. Be respectful, ask them politely to move on. IF they don't comply, page a gm in game.
Don't make a thread about it. :)
I see. I think you took/understand my post way different, that was my intention.
It was a genuine question from new player.
I was polite, I didn't argue, I left, I DIDN'T COMPLAIN HERE
Every new p99 player who has a complaint that's been heard before.
And the most important part, I didn't reveal player's name. It was genuine noob player question about the situation and not the player who did it. See my original post.
I suspected camp was mine, but I just wanted to make sure, so I will know how to (re)act next time.
Look, I had one player (this was on Green) come by (same camp) at the same time Shraloc spawned. While I was buffing my pet, he quickly send /ooc, /tell to me and attacked the Shraloc all within 10 seconds. I have a screen shot of logs and everything, but I didn't make a thread about this (complaining) and I didn't petition it. And he clearly acted like a jerk. Was that polite enough action for you?
Now lets look from my view point. I'm new, I don't know things, so I'm asking questions. Someone posted cryptic (for me) post, proposition, he was looking for new players with low level from Blue server. So I responded as I may be interested, even that I wasn't sure what was all about and stated that. After replying I saw it was actually posted in Red part of this forum. Since I'm not interested in Red and PvP I jokingly jokingly added that part. And looks like I stepped on a few toes as well. Jet no one bothered to actually answered to me, what it was all about. (don't care any more, but just giving examples)
So, looking from my view point, what should I do next? Stop posting & asking questions, since some here may get triggered/offended/sad/upset so fast? Is this the point of these forums?
Can you see my side of this story? Of should these forums be only for seasoned players who already know all the answers?
loramin
06-23-2020, 04:05 PM
I see. I think you took/understand my post way different, that was my intention.
It was a genuine question from new player.
I was polite, I didn't argue, I left, I DIDN'T COMPLAIN HERE (see your quote bellow)
And the most important, I didn't reveal player's name. It was genuine newb player question.
I suspected it was mine but I just wanted to make sure, so I will know how to (re)act next time.
Look, I had one player (this was on Green) come by (same camp) at the same time Shraloc spawned. While I was buffing my pet, he quickly send /ooc, /tell to me and attacked the Shraloc all within 10 seconds. (I think was hardly more than 5 seconds) I have a screen shot of logs and everything, but I didn't make a thread about this (complaining) and I didn't petition it. And he clearly acted like a jerk. Was that polite enough action for you?
Now lets look from my view point, if you please. I'm new, I don't know things, so I'm asking questions. Someone posted cryptic (for me) post, proposition, he was looking for new players with low level from Blue server. So I responded as I may be interested, even that I wasn't sure what was all about and stated that. After replying I saw it was actually posted in Red part of this forum. Since I'm not interested in Red and PvP I added with jokingly statement. And looks like I stepped on a few toes as well. Jet no one bothered to actually answered to me, what it was all about.
So, looking from my view point, what should I do next? Stop posting & asking questions, since some here get triggered so fast? Is this the point of these forums?
Can you see my side of this story? Of should these forums be only for seasoned players who already know all the answers?
This forum has an ... aggressive culture. Rather than being concerned about your post (which was completely legitimate), I'd just accept that posts like Balers' are more of a reflection of the poster (and that culture), than they are any sort of reflection on what you wrote.
TLDR; Don't worry, there was nothing wrong with your post ... just be thicker skinned :)
This forum has an ... aggressive culture.
OK, point taken :)
norova
06-23-2020, 06:14 PM
Ignore any bitchings. Your head seems to be screwed on pretty straight, keep following your own compass.
Baler
06-24-2020, 02:09 AM
This doesn't excuse my aggressive rude posts in this thread but hear me out.
If the camp was yours why did you leave?
If what you said is true the person was AFK and the spawn was up. Meaning they're not camping it as per the PnP and Server Rules (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=325349)
You have logs as proof if they attempt to kill steal from your camp.
If the camp was yours why did you leave?
Well I answered all this. I assumed camp was mine, I did write this in the tell back to the player. But wasn't sure, decided to ask here to make sure for next time. Player was high level and this confused me, this player should know, so I though, maybe I was wrong. Beside, I only had about 1 hour of free time to play, player offered we camp together and share bags between us, I may get only 1 in that time or none. I was not going to argue for the whole camp. I can came back. (which I did day later, and got after few spiders 3 bags in a row(!), what a luck)
But as noob, I wanted to be sure, I asked, not complained and I didn't post players name, not even revealing toon gender or guild name.
If what you said is true the person was AFK and the spawn was up. Meaning they're not camping it as per the PnP and Server Rules (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=325349)
You have logs as proof if they attempt to kill steal from your camp.
What I said IS TRUE, spawn (placeholder) was up, I waited few minutes, no responds from the player, I /tell to player few times, then I /tell that I will kill a PH, no response, I kill PH, no response, I'm waiting longer, no response, second PH spawns, still no response, I was going to kill second PH, then player moved, killed PH. Next 1-2 minutes is quet, (probably reading my tells and evaluating the situation) no response, I asked why player is ignoring me, then I finally got first reply, something in regard: Sorry, camping this one for over 8 hours, had to go to do something... etc
I asked, how can you camp this one for so long, you should be out of bag spaces; answer, I was camping with another toon first, now with this one, need 3 more bags. Player didn't show any intention to leave, but player did offer to camp together and share those bags.
I answered player can have the camp (so I willingly let it go) and I will come back some time later. Player asked if I'm sure. I said yes. But I also said (and finished conversation) that I think camp was mine and I will ask about this on forum and make sure.
Above is not exact quote, i don't have screen shot, so per memory, but I think it is very accurate.
So, bottom line, I came here to this forum and I asked the question to make sure, to see if I was correct, just like I responded in a tell to the player that I will do.
And now I know, it was mine, (once for a change I was right, hear this wifey? lol) so end of story ;)
Really that's all I needed, a confirmation. And honestly, I'm really glad I did ask, I got some great tips, including from @BlackBellamy how to act next time. Using /ooc etc. Didn't know that. Used it very next day, same camp, player was some 40-45 minutes AFK but it was nice getting response in /ooc from other players acknowledging situation. Thank you @BlackBellamy and others for all the tips!
So, ignore my previous respond to you, it was too serious, it is just a game, it is all good, no need to spend any more anyone's time on this topic ;) I can see how this kind of topic probably often pops up and if you are here for years, it can get tiresome, I get it :)
p.s.
To a high level player, who was part of this, if you read this, think about this when you are in the same situation next time. Be nice and do the right thing, don't offer sharing the camp and split the loot, just give it away as per rules. You too can come back later. Not to mention, as a high level player, you probably have enough platina to buy all the bags you want. This noob had around 100-200 platina when this event occurred. And no Shraloc (or whetever it's name is, i always name it wrong) bags. Think about it.
P.p.s
On another side, I should not forget all the nice things, help and goodies I got from other high level players. Like Robe of Oracle! Just gifted to me! (Thank you, very generous Druid!) Also on Blue. Plus some stuff I will need (I think) for my mage Epic quest. Thank you all for all the nice things, which are worth waaaaaaaay more than those silly bags. Blue rocks! Noob, but running around with Robe of Oracle, like some kind of pro lol (but still die a lot like a noob he-he)
Sabin76
06-24-2020, 11:22 AM
P.p.s
On another side, I should not forget all the nice things, help and goodies I got from other high level players. Like Robe of Oracle! Just gifted to me! (Thank you, very generous Druid!) Also on Blue. Plus some stuff I will need (I think) for my mage Epic quest. Thank you all for all the nice things, which are worth waaaaaaaay more than those silly bags. Blue rocks! Noob, but running around with Robe of Oracle, like some kind of pro lol (but still die a lot like a noob he-he)
I just wanted to chime in here... I wouldn't hold my breath about completing your Mage Epic.
I just wanted to chime in here... I wouldn't hold my breath about completing your Mage Epic.
Yeah, I've read about being hard and difficult and almost impossible on one server, just forgot which one. And since I'm solo player, I can probably forget about it :)
Not sure if those items were for epic quest or for some focus quests items. Don't know much about this stuff yet and didn't do any reading on it yet. If I have time, for now I'm playing, will do reading & learning some time later, I have plenty of time for this ;)
Sabin76
06-24-2020, 03:01 PM
Yeah, I've read about being hard and difficult and almost impossible on one server, just forgot which one. And since I'm solo player, I can probably forget about it :)
Not sure if those items were for epic quest or for some focus quests items. Don't know much about this stuff yet and didn't do any reading on it yet. If I have time, for now I'm playing, will do reading & learning some time later, I have plenty of time for this ;)
Not to derail too much, but it's both Blue and Green (the item drops, but Epics are not implemented yet). In terms of whether it's the epic or a focus item... it's also both ;). The item in question is the Staff of Elemental Mastery: Earth, which is a focus item that can affect pets over level 49, but it's also required for the Epic.
To be clear, there are other items that are rather difficult to obtain... but I think this one in particular is the biggest bottleneck.
Not to derail too much, but it's both Blue and Green (the item drops, but Epics are not implemented yet). In terms of whether it's the epic or a focus item... it's also both ;). The item in question is the Staff of Elemental Mastery: Earth, which is a focus item that can affect pets over level 49, but it's also required for the Epic.
To be clear, there are other items that are rather difficult to obtain... but I think this one in particular is the biggest bottleneck.
Ahh, I see, both servers lol! Thank you for the info. Will do some reading, once I get to the bank and I see what i have stored there :) I don't worry too much about epic either way. I have read, that many players are perfectly happy without it, and who knows I many never get high enough, to be able to use it any way, even if it would be easily available. So I've never really counted on it, but do appreciate all the info.
Loadsamoney
06-24-2020, 10:34 PM
No, it's mine. Reported.
cd288
06-24-2020, 11:46 PM
This doesn't excuse my aggressive rude posts in this thread but hear me out.
If the camp was yours why did you leave?
If what you said is true the person was AFK and the spawn was up. Meaning they're not camping it as per the PnP and Server Rules (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=325349)
You have logs as proof if they attempt to kill steal from your camp.
He’s just asking a question for clarification man
No, it's mine. Reported.
LMAO!
GnomeCaptain
06-25-2020, 10:36 PM
I concur that it was your camp. I would have likely given him the camp as long as he wasn't an ass.
Having said that, I hate that camp. Last time I did it I needed 3 bags. After 3 spawns (and 1 bag, yay!) someone else came by and asked how long I planned to stay. In return, I asked him if he was there to get them for himself or to sell them. He said he was selling them. I told him the camp was his if he promised to sell me the first two he got. I camped right there and played an alt, and within an hour I had two more bags and I didn't have to deal with that camp!
Now I started another alt so I'm gonna need another set of shralok packs!
Good job.
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