New twink, Pally or Ranger

[wagorf]

With 500k, which class is more fun to play as twink?

My definition of fun twink = (1) Can do stuff others can't do at the same level (2) outperforms the group when leveling (3) don't need NToV stuff to be great after 55

Also, do I need a FT item for either of these classes?

[therealmd]

Go with ranger hands down. I twinked a ranger with roughly 50k and it was some of the best leveling experience I’ve had in eq. So I can only imagine what you can do with 500k.

[Jimjam]

I feel like a lot of the stuff that makes a ranger a powerful solo experience for the last dozen levels wouldn’t be very easy to buy. The hate stone mq and even more the sky cloak loot rights.

I wouldn’t be willing to dump 100s of kpp into something that would take a lot of work on my part as well (being ready to get batphones onto birdhorse island as an eg).

[ChooChoo Train]

Necro/ench/monk

[therealmd]

I feel like a lot of the stuff that makes a ranger a powerful solo experience for the last dozen levels wouldn’t be very easy to buy. The hate stone mq and even more the sky cloak loot rights.

I wouldn’t be willing to dump 100s of kpp into something that would take a lot of work on my part as well (being ready to get batphones onto birdhorse island as an eg).

This couldn’t be more wrong. If you have a fungi, 2 good weapons and a haste item you’ll solo just fine. Snare+panic animal and you’re soloing all day in outdoor zones. Don’t listen to anyone that says rangers can’t solo unless you have crazy gear to get. They’ve clearly never played a ranger

[Jimjam]

This couldn’t be more wrong. If you have a fungi, 2 good weapons and a haste item you’ll solo just fine. Snare+panic animal and you’re soloing all day in outdoor zones. Don’t listen to anyone that says rangers can’t solo unless you have crazy gear to get. They’ve clearly never played a ranger
I didn’t say rangers can’t solo. I’ve levelled a ranger to 60 with plenty of soloing. I know from first hand experience that the cloak and primary epic are really rare, and I don’t think having a mountain of plat to buy them will do much to make them easier (and I’m fairly sure these are tools a 500k twink will want from level 46).

If you aren’t arguing in bad faith or misunderstanding then maybe you’ve misread the scope of the question? What you outline is a 50k twink, the OP is enquiring about a twink an order of magnitude greater than that.

To move the discussion forward we need to outline what can be got for each class with half a mil. A factor to consider is what level the OP plans to play to, and how much plat they are willing to hold in reserve /liquid investment to pay for the things that can only be acquired later on.

Likewise OP, do you have access to plat-free help on epics, etc?

[Snaggles]

If you can line up an Earthcaller and dark cloak it would be a very class to play. Without those items and Zek blade/epic/fungi still fun just not as capable killing on-level blues.

I’d rather take a 100k pally, sk, warrior (Gnome) or monk over that budget with the ranger. 500k is a big deal difference tho, especially with 50% haste and a slow proc epic.

[therealmd]

That is true Jim. The free epic help is a big one unless you plan to pay close to 200k at this point for epics. I got my epics at 53 on my ranger and the slow /haste is amazing for soloing.

[wagorf]

Which cloak are you talking about? Dark Cloak of the Sky? It clicks to have 50% spell haste?

I guess my assumption is that I won't be able to get Earthcaller or Cloak if that's what you are asking. And will eventually will play to lvl 60, one day.

Does that mean I won't be enjoying ranger after 50 unless I get Earthcaller and cloak? Where as my gears would still be superb after 50 as a paladin?

[Jimjam]

I'm not an expert on Paladin, but surely with stuff like crown of narandi, eyepatch mq, belt of the great turtle, some haste, a fungi and a decent weapon will do you well?

I mean I suppose you could do a ranger without the clicky haste cloak or epics, but are you even really doing a ranger.

[Spineripper]

100% paladin

[Barlu]

Have been playing my Paladin which is now level 52 a lot lately. My budget was quite a bit less but still had fungi, 34% haste, etc.

Although I haven’t played a ranger, I was deciding between the 2 when I chose Pally. The biggest appeal on the Pally to me was the ability to do some soloing in dungeons. Although you won’t have the Charisma of a enchanter, Calm is still pretty effective and root works well when you get extras.

If I had the budget I would definitely get an Eyepatch. That 20% haste makes a big difference. You asked about flowing though item and I would also spring for a Crown of Narandi. At 39 pallys get a spell that drains 3 mana per tick and gives you 8 regen. With FT2 you will not be losing mana while standing unless you are casting and will have 23hp/tick regen with fungi.

Gearing a Pally 55+ isn’t crazy either. Narandi Lance for like 12k with great ratio and proc. I made a high elf for Natures Defender which is peak fashion quest and pretty easy quest.

Biggest downside of Pally is lack of dps when soloing 50+. Sometimes have to root and Heal mid fight which I’m not a huge fan. With that being said, fights are slower but Deepwater bp heals 307 hp every 10 seconds and only costs 7 gold for a Jasper so downtime is extremely limited.

My vote would be Paladin and think you’d enjoy it. Also, having a character that can 90% rez at lvl 58 makes life a lot easier.

[Dogma]

I made and recommend a ranger twink.

After playing warrior for a LONG time, ranger felt very comfortable and casual. They bring their own SoW, heals, can summon their own arrows, not KoS like my iksar... Pretty chill char to play as.

Not nearly as strong as warrior though. Had to root and heal up quite a bit.

The ability to harmony mobs and otherwise CC them was really nice for soloing also.

If you plan on rolling into raiding though I'd recommend paladin as their gear is really cheap typically and raids always seem to be lacking a paladin.

[wagorf]

makes sense, good point - i think im gonna be not on par with other rangers post 55 without epic/cloak

[Crede]

I’ve done both these twink builds. Ranger will probably be slightly more fun to raid with. But pally wins in every other aspect. Use that extra money to buy cool things like the Haste click eyepatch. If you really want to ranger though, you’ll need as much AC as possible. They really get spanked pretty hard and might make you just wish you had made a monk.

[Spineripper]

People often forget how freaking awesome paladins are if played right. They are literally unstoppable machines. It’s a shame they had such a bad rep due to assumptions, they are finally now getting the rep they deserve it’s nice to see so many paladins now on green hehe. People are seeing the light!