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Sabin76
06-06-2020, 01:30 PM
So the wiki doesn't have entries on the Spell Research page of the pets that you can buy at these levels. Do the recipes not exist, or is the table incomplete? It shouldn't be too hard to guess what the recipes are... Mage research is quite consistent after all.

Baler
06-06-2020, 02:35 PM
I don't understand what you're trying to say.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Research#Magician_Spell_Recipes

Oddbaal
06-06-2020, 03:13 PM
To piggy back off this thread — my mage just hit 16 on green. At what level is it recommended or even required that I start researching? First caster in EQ so I’m a bit in the dark on how to make my researching life easier. I noticed the skill opened up at 16 but I haven’t trained it yet. Is it recommended to dump all my points into it now? Appreciate any and all advice.

Dolalin
06-06-2020, 03:55 PM
Pets you can buy at these levels can't also be researched. This came up during the mage pets research-only timeline changes, just keep that in mind.

loramin
06-06-2020, 04:17 PM
I don't understand what you're trying to say.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Research#Magician_Spell_Recipes

I think what OP may have been referring to is the fact that if you go to any other tradeskill-made item in the wiki ... eg. a Tailor-made Backpack:

http://wiki.project1999.com/Hand_Made_Backpack

You will see the "recipe" for that item, on its page:

Tailoring (Trivial: 88)
Yield: Hand Made Backpack x1
In Loom:
Item 504.png 1 x Backpack Pattern - Bought
Item 554.png 1 x High Quality Bear Skin - Dropped

However, for (what I assume are) historical reasons, most research-made spells do not have their recipes on them. Admittedly, this is not 100% true; there are researched spells that do have their recipe on their page, for instance:

http://wiki.project1999.com/Cornucopia

But ... many don't, and as Baler noted you have to go to the Research page to find their recipe.

Now, if you're like me, you might be wondering "well how do we fix this?", and the answer is ... you fix it! ;) If you edit a page with a recipe on it, like say Cornucopia, you'll see this:

{{Magician Recipe| Cornucopia | 62}}
{{Recipe Component| Words of Transcendence | 869}}
{{Recipe Component| Summon Food | 504| - Bought}}
{{Recipe Component| Loaf of Bread | 537}}

Simply copy/paste that code onto a spell page that doesn't have a recipe, and then replace the items with the correct items for that spell's "recipe". To get the numbers, simply go to the item pages involved and look for the "Lucy Image ID" in their code. For instance, if you edit https://wiki.project1999.com/Words_of_Transcendence you will see:

|lucy_img_ID = 869

which then tells you that you want to use:

{{Recipe Component| Words of Transcendence | 869}}

If everyone reading this just fixed one spell of their favorite Int caster class, the wiki would have recipes for every spell in no time :)

Baler
06-06-2020, 04:17 PM
Pets you can buy at these levels can't also be researched. This came up during the mage pets research-only timeline changes, just keep that in mind.

OH, what OP asked suddenly makes sense to me. :o

I believe this is the bug post that covers this.
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=339230&page=2

Edit: woops sry loramin, I was sitting at submit while I dug up the thread.

Edit: I made edits to the wiki for the level 34 Earth & Water, Level 39 Air & Fire Pets. On their individual pages and an additional FAQ on the research page.

loramin
06-06-2020, 04:47 PM
Edit: woops sry loramin, I was sitting at submit while I dug up the thread.

No apology needed! And if I was wrong about OP's concern ... well, at least it gave me an excuse to plug adding spell recipes to the wiki :D

Sabin76
06-07-2020, 12:24 AM
Yup, thanks all. If you noticed, I had actually done that for all of the magician spells... which is why I brought it up in the first place, as I didn't know why those were missing.

loramin
06-07-2020, 01:13 AM
Yup, thanks all. If you noticed, I had actually done that for all of the magician spells... which is why I brought it up in the first place, as I didn't know why those were missing.

https://i.imgur.com/oVG43Je.gif

Oh nice! I think what happened is that the "spidering" program that was originally used to build the wiki (from other sources on the Internet like Allakhazam) didn't pick up spell recipes. This was before my time so I don't know exactly why.

I noticed the issue and made the templates back in December, and added them to a few places ... but then got sidetracked by other wiki projects and forgot about them.

It was awesome to see that you did all the work to add them for all of the mage spells (and even fixed the "an" in the template): thanks for doing all that! :D