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remen
05-06-2020, 05:02 AM
So I have the quest items to get a https://wiki.project1999.com/Serrated_Dragon_Tooth ranged slot item, and I am having trouble deciding which character is best to use it for (bard or monk). The stats on the tooth are:

30ac | +10 sta / dex / agi | +12 to all resists | 41% haste

My bard has: https://wiki.project1999.com/Thunderstone

15ac | +10 str / sta; +5 agi | +15 mr

and my monk has: https://wiki.project1999.com/Nevederia%27s_Left_Eye

15ac | +15 str / sta / agi | +50 hp | +10 mr

Currently my bard has only a 34% haste item, which probably isn't a huge deal for a bard (and I am hoping to get Yelinak gloves for him anyways which have 41% haste). Meanwhile, my monk has VP boots (https://wiki.project1999.com/Grey_Suede_Boots) for a 41% haste item, but I could switch to Ikatiar boots (https://wiki.project1999.com/Ancient_Wyvern_Hide_Boots) if I had the doze ranged item haste. I would lose some raw HP, but gain a lot of AC and resists.

I'm torn on which character I should put the serrated dragon tooth on, so any input would be greatly appreciated!

Solist
05-06-2020, 05:16 AM
Stats are irrelevent.

Loot is irrelevelent.

Server was beaten in kunark gear.

Get whatever looks best.

Non throwing items on a monk is aids and just one more thing to swap around. MQ the tooth to an alt.

Baler
05-06-2020, 07:30 AM
Monk > Bard

Monk items.

jolanar
05-06-2020, 08:29 AM
If it's going to the range slot on either character, then I would definitely give it to the Monk.

Man0warr
05-06-2020, 08:00 PM
If your monk has any items in their ranged besides Antonian Javelin then your wrong, or a DPS Monk. In which case you should switch to a Rogue.

remen
05-08-2020, 10:25 PM
If your monk has any items in their ranged besides Antonian Javelin then your wrong, or a DPS Monk. In which case you should switch to a Rogue.

Since you aren't aware, I'm going to teach you something new about EQ. There is content outside of raiding! For example: Soloing, duos, trios (aka menage a trois), etc etc. Also, even in raid situations, capable and skilled monks are able to swap between javs and ranged slot items with stats depending on the situation. If you do nothing but keep an Antonian Javelin in your ranged slot then you are wrong.

ChooChoo Train
05-08-2020, 10:53 PM
Damn man make a baby rogue and MQ that shit. Duh.

Snaggles
05-09-2020, 02:34 AM
Damn man make a baby rogue and MQ that shit. Duh.

^ Yea that and a 30k epic is a SOLID base for a rogue alt. Great stats for other classes but those only get you so far vs a mainhand stabbing stuff.

But back to the OP if stuck on those two I’d go monk.

remen
05-09-2020, 07:05 AM
Damn man make a baby rogue and MQ that shit. Duh.

^ Yea that and a 30k epic is a SOLID base for a rogue alt. Great stats for other classes but those only get you so far vs a mainhand stabbing stuff.

But back to the OP if stuck on those two I’d go monk.

Well a baby rogue it doesn't work for, you have to be at least level 46 to enter ToV =)
I have a 53 rogue already however (formerly a 52 naggy alt that is useless now with naggy item nerfs) who has epic and Nevs horn offhand (10/15 ratio and some stats) https://wiki.project1999.com/Nevederia%27s_Horn
The problem is I really don't enjoy playing or leveling the rogue, it's too repetitive for me just standing behind mobs pressing auto attack, backstab, and evade.

For the characters I am considering, here is the breakdown of stat changes factoring in adjustments of sta / agi for hp / ac, as well as where my toons are relative to stats caps:

Total stats of swapping on monk =
TOTAL: +40ac / +10dex / -35hp || +2mr / +2cr / +12fr / +12dr / +17pr

Total stats of swapping on bard =
TOTAL: +27ac / +5dex / -10str || -3mr / +12res fr / cr / dr / pr || +7% haste

Overall I think it does seem the stat upgrades are better and more useful on my monk, but it's tempting to get a 41% haste item onto my bard; I might not get a different one for quite a while if ever (initially when I bid on the serrated dragon tooth it was to replace an idol of the thorned on my bard). Or maybe I should just completely change course and use the white tear to make https://wiki.project1999.com/Mask_of_the_Silver_Eyes to replace Crystal spider eyes on my necro; I am too indecisive, help me decide!

Pint
05-09-2020, 10:58 AM
Bard range slot, fifield wasn't a scrub

jolanar
05-09-2020, 08:40 PM
If your monk has any items in their ranged besides Antonian Javelin then your wrong, or a DPS Monk. In which case you should switch to a Rogue.

Imagine a world where swapping an item out takes almost no effort. Oh wait.

kjs86z
05-11-2020, 02:16 PM
Damn man make a baby rogue and MQ that shit. Duh.

was kinda thinkin same thing

Cen
05-11-2020, 02:27 PM
If your monk has any items in their ranged besides Antonian Javelin then your wrong, or a DPS Monk. In which case you should switch to a Rogue.

Monks are not a primary DPS class first and foremost?

Man0warr
05-12-2020, 04:15 AM
Well it's a bit different now with rooted dragons and nerfed item recharges but in general no, your job is getting FTE on raid mobs and getting them into camp. In exp groups too. DPS is secondary.