View Full Version : Wondering what Charm is good for?
redghosthunter
05-04-2011, 05:37 PM
As of EQlive currend day ENCs are
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=4077
Good for quests
Posted: 2009-10-09 19:04:04 | Quote | Reply to Post | Follow
byby
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With the high resist and short deration should be good for quests that require faction.
Tiggles
05-04-2011, 06:40 PM
you need to be banned
Rhambuk
05-04-2011, 06:47 PM
whats a post from 2009 have to do with anything
Kassel
05-04-2011, 06:56 PM
Charm is for figuring out who the good enchanters are from the bandwagon ones.
I have been in many groups recently that had enchanters using charm with great success.
Here are some tips based on my observation.
1) have a secondary debuffer like a mage or shaman, this means soloing power for the best group class has been reduced !!
2) Pick a mob of the appropriate level.
3) Don't have 255 charisma? Guess whose fault that is ?
4) Don't haste your pet.
5) Be ready for the break ! Do you have a rune up? do you have the appropriate HP buffs for your group?
Have fun !!
Desert
05-04-2011, 06:57 PM
6. Do you have a good druid/ranger? if your pet is hasted, SNARE YOUR PET.
7. Die a painful quick death
ooantipostoo
05-04-2011, 07:25 PM
As of EQlive currend day ENCs are
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=4077
Good for quests
Posted: 2009-10-09 19:04:04 | Quote | Reply to Post | Follow
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With the high resist and short deration should be good for quests that require faction.
Dude will you just shut the Fuck up, you are seriously borderline retarded.
If anyone else is wondering why he is the way he is, he is a painter by profession = sniffing way to many paint fumes in your life.
Messianic
05-04-2011, 10:36 PM
War! huh-yeah
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing
Uh-huh
War! huh-yeah
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing
Say it again y'all
War! huh good God
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me?
Zigfreed
05-05-2011, 02:58 AM
You fought the good fight. I suggest throwing your hands up in the air, saying "Fuck it!" and moving on before you get an aneurysm.
William_Munny15
05-05-2011, 05:08 AM
Don't be part tard, the only people soloing crystallos when SoF came out were enchanters, with charmed pets, don't act like it's completely useless.
Caravelle1
05-05-2011, 06:27 AM
Charm on Live at this point in the game was SO reliable, that I would literally go afk with my level 75 pet that quadded for 1400 damage without any worry whatsoever
Extunarian
05-05-2011, 09:05 AM
I think your best bet is to do what others have done and submit logs of how charm is working for you. My guess is Kanras has a target in mind for low/average/long charms and their frequencies, so maybe if you can provide some data points for him he can continue to make adjustments.
Desert
05-05-2011, 02:34 PM
Charm on Live at this point in the game was SO reliable, that I would literally go afk with my level 75 pet that quadded for 1400 damage without any worry whatsoever
at this point in the game? max level is 60, broski
Extunarian
05-05-2011, 02:38 PM
at this point in the game? max level is 60, broski
engage sarcasm detector
Desert
05-05-2011, 02:47 PM
engage sarcasm detector
yeah, because sarcasm and tone is totally easy to convey through text amirite?
Extunarian
05-05-2011, 03:06 PM
With the insane level and damage values the person listed for 'this point in the game,' yes, it should be easy.
And I can tell you were being sarcastic there.
redghosthunter
05-06-2011, 11:38 AM
1. I havn't played a ENC in prob a year. I know this is a hot topic so i make threads about it. Seems like a lot of folks were very AGRO about that change.
2. And Charm is Great for quests... How ya going to get your PALie epic without charming the Lich in Everfrost to turn in Miragul's Head? And how ya going to get ya Port Hammer in OT ? CHARM so ya charm is great for quests. Jokes on U.
3. Ban me for spending dozen's of hours reading old boards ? This is susposed to be a Time-line server --- Timeline changes are Great, but what is simply a nurf? I've not seen anyone post boards from 2001 to support anything they have to say. As I recall certain GMs have said where's the proof? Well read the old boards.. its there.
Extunarian
05-06-2011, 11:52 AM
And how ya going to get ya Port Hammer in OT?
Illusion: DE + benevolence?
But yeah, part of the chanter epic is called 'test of charm' and you just run around Kunark charming stuff...not that it requires charm to hold for very long but it is certainly a class defining skill.
I plan on hopping on the chanter this weekend to find out if charm is really as useless as you're claiming. If it is really this bad I'd imagine Kanras would be open to tweaking it...we'll see.
redghosthunter
05-06-2011, 12:25 PM
Ext,
I havn't played the ENC in a year man. I just picked up on, feelings of the ENCs i read about after the April patch.
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=33579&page=16
there are TONs of wining on charm if ya do a search. I know most people don't know how to play their class. However, most other classes hate ENCs and have used politics to try and bring a nontimeline change.
Extunarian
05-06-2011, 12:47 PM
Ext,
I havn't played the ENC in a year man. I just picked up on, feelings of the ENCs i read about after the April patch.
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=33579&page=16
there are TONs of wining on charm if ya do a search. I know most people don't know how to play their class. However, most other classes hate ENCs and have used politics to try and bring a nontimeline change.
I'm not disagreeing with you. I read the posts of the people who had logged their charm durations and it seemed like the frequency of early breaks was too high. I remember getting bad runs of 2 or 3 quick breaks but they didn't happen that often. Overall on live I rarely soloed with charm, but with a healer partner or in a solid group I remember charm being viable.
Anyway, I was just saying I'm eager to test it out on my 40 enchanter to see how bad it really is.
guineapig
05-06-2011, 12:59 PM
If you have to ask you'll never know...
guineapig
05-06-2011, 01:01 PM
1. I havn't played a ENC in prob a year. I know this is a hot topic so i make threads about it.
You mean you make threads about it to try and make it a hot topic... right?
Maybe just stick to 1 thread about a topic.
Nedala
05-06-2011, 01:25 PM
4) Don't haste your pet.
fail
neverquest
08-09-2011, 12:00 PM
you need to be banned
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