ToV melee binds extremely unclassic

[m00r5tuD]

This recent patch had me thinking. Recharging Locket of Escape, although technically classic, has been abused much like spider nets, mallets, wands. It completely changes the raid scene as entire guilds can have their melee bound at ToV. This is not classic at all. People should have to run from Cobalt Scar every time like we did 20 years ago.

For a true classic experience all melee binds in Western Wastes should be wiped and Locket of Escape made no longer rechargeable.

[Clearmind]

pre nerf alliance neck goes wayyyyy up for all the SG noobs lol

[Ligma]

Although recharging wasn't known about for most of classic, by end game velious it was knowledge that top guilds did have.

Melee were certainly binding in PoM in classic.

[Izmael]

Never heard of any melee binding at ToV back then though.

+1 for OP

[Jimjam]

Pros:

1) be on call 24/7 to race for your teams dragon pixels.

Cons:

1) it’s binding at a raid target’s spawn (Sontalak)

2) people go afk and get caught in a death loop

3) no vendor or bank nearby for restocking inventory while on corpse recovery

4) not a travel hub

Terrible bind imho, unless your eq experience has been reduced to a narrow selection of the boss fight minigame.

[Pootle]

This recent patch had me thinking. Recharging Locket of Escape, although technically classic, has been abused much like spider nets, mallets, wands. It completely changes the raid scene as entire guilds can have their melee bound at ToV. This is not classic at all. People should have to run from Cobalt Scar every time like we did 20 years ago.

For a true classic experience all melee binds in Western Wastes should be wiped and Locket of Escape made no longer rechargeable.

So is this the new typical post for the forums this week? some butthurt player who doesn't have something that other people have, demanding nerfs and removal of said thing.

But but... because classic!!!!


Also this did make me laugh....
Recharging Locket of Escape, although technically classic,
This is not classic at all.
For a true classic experience... Locket of Escape made no longer rechargeable. (forgetting what he typed like 1 minute ago.. Recharging Locket of Escape, although technically classic)

[Fammaden]

That'll just hurt AG much more than it would Riot, dude.

I'd love to see the server actually have to mobilize and pick or choose targets but with the amount of alts and max level toons you're never going to return to the way things were when Velious was the current expansion.

[kotton05]

wow cringing

[Erati]

how is Locket being recharged not classic again?

[Endonde]

Why stop there?

The amount of Monks and Shamans on P99 is incredibly unclassic, players flock to these overpowered classes now that they know how strong they are. We should randomly remove 75% of all monks currently on the server to encourage a more classic environment.

Having a fully best in slot character? I don't think so, at best you got a few pieces of ToV loot before the next expansion came out. So I say we limit every character to only 7 pieces of raid loot from each expansion!

Shit's never gonna feel classic just give up.

[Nibblewitz]

People that have played the game before also not classic. Remove.

[reznor_]

Cringing for OP

[mycoolrausch]

They'll probably nerf them when velious drops on green.

It's time to balance some of these "nerfing for classic experience" with some "buffing for classic experience" IMO. No more nerfs until something is buffed. It's just good practice.

[Molitoth]

Why stop there?

The amount of Monks and Shamans on P99 is incredibly unclassic, players flock to these overpowered classes now that they know how strong they are. We should randomly remove 75% of all monks currently on the server to encourage a more classic environment.

Having a fully best in slot character? I don't think so, at best you got a few pieces of ToV loot before the next expansion came out. So I say we limit every character to only 7 pieces of raid loot from each expansion!

Shit's never gonna feel classic just give up.

lol

/win

[Baler]

Re-roll rogue, it takes less thought.

[indiscriminate_hater]

Have you considered uninstalling?

[branamil]

I TOO have Demands of Volunteers Working on a Free Game!!!!!!


* please chnage loading screen to white and not black, the reflection staring back at me is haunting

* please disconnect me every 75 minutes to simulate my sister using the modem's phone line

* please airdrop a crate of Sunkist or Fanta and Chips Ahoy to simulate my childhood diet

[m00r5tuD]

Guys seriously think back to the day we were all bound in Thurg or Kael, maybe even somewhere in Vanilla or Kunark. Riot's entire guild is bound at ToV-click in in Western Wastes, including melee. Most of AG's is as well. This is comically un-classic.

Wipe all West Wastes binds, even casters.

As we move to a more classic experience you guys will have to adapt.

[Nirgon]

Slippery slope trying to rebalance everything and the meta adjusting

Leading to more things to complain about changing

[Baler]

Slippery slope trying to rebalance everything and the meta adjusting

This, no,. really,. This

[Swish]

Change anything and people will complain.

Keep the status quo and people complain.

Imagine choosing to deal with that as a GM/dev.

[Baler]

Change anything and people will complain.

Keep the status quo and people complain.

Imagine choosing to deal with that as a GM/dev.

luckily we don't have to complain because you're a staff member.

oh oops...

[Swish]

luckily we don't have to complain because you're a staff member.

oh oops...

I retired, remember? (assuming the Swish/Llandris connection ever had any substance) :o

[Jimjam]

I retired, remember? (assuming the Swish/Llandris connection ever had any substance) :o

Or, as your cover was blown, you now operate under a new identity.

[Pootle]

As we move to a more classic experience you guys will have to adapt.

He says, while asking for more non-classic changes to be made.

[gwideon]

Gnomish Greetings!

One of the things that made me love the game 20 years ago was the way players came up with unusual ways to solve problems that the developers had not anticipated, like gravity fluxing yourself to places that you cannot get to easily by normal means. Solving problems in unusual ways became part of the game and it made it a blast.

I disagree with the latest nerfs to make the game more non-classic. Kunark and Velious were the height of the game imo because it was before the developers went overboard with nerfs and corrections to classes to address all of the complaints. Now, I understand why they had to do some things because players won't play nice together and there needs to be some order to the chaos that is the engaging of major mobs. But the use of items to build agro was classic and on live they were used as such. By Velious even mid raiding guilds were using agro items to open up casters like us to engage sooner and damage faster. I can't post evidence because strats were not openly posted so as to (hopefully) retain advantage.

Everyone was hit at one time or another with a Sony nerf that made us question whether this was the one that finally would make us hang it up. Some were understandable, but at some point many of my friends gave up trying to play the game exactly as Sony intended; it just wasn't fun anymore.

Let's not encourage more unclassic changes that are unnecessary to the point where no one has fun anymore, okay?

[kotton05]

Change anything and people will complain.

Keep the status quo and people complain.

Imagine choosing to deal with that as a GM/dev.

Yea dude imagine getting rustled over boomers who take elf sim seriously....

Can’t be that hard to tune out their cries.... Just respond with silence and smirk.

[kaizersoze]

technically you're bound at Sontalak's spawn point, which is a raid mob, and thus, breaking the rules. Unbind those bound at TOV ent 2020

[Arkanjil]

I think Elf Lawyer should be a job title at this point.

[Endonde]

I think Elf Lawyer should be a job title at this point.

Some of these people take their elf lawyering so serious that I would not be surprised to find it on their resume.

[Senix]

I have a feeling op recently got to see content and loot and thinks this would help his guild do better. When in reality everyone else would just be pre parking just like you, nothing would really change. Besides most hardcore raiders have 2-3 decently-well geared 60's to pre park elsewhere.

[Raclen]

Less people knew of something 20 years ago than know now. I would like the game changed so people can only play as if they don't know things that they know.


Thanks staff.

[XDrake]

Gnomish Greetings!

One of the things that made me love the game 20 years ago was the way players came up with unusual ways to solve problems that the developers had not anticipated, like gravity fluxing yourself to places that you cannot get to easily by normal means. Solving problems in unusual ways became part of the game and it made it a blast.


So true. I'm personally amazed at the things people figured out by being subversive with game mechanics.

Folks used problem solving and experimentation to get an edge over the game without resorting to straight up exploits. I still learn new things on the wiki or when on a raid.

[enjchanter]

Binding at tov is the literal worst bind location ever but if you're not bound it's really hard to farm dkp unless you have the correct dkp farming alts (druid wiz necro)

[bradsamma]

This is so dumb.... you just leave a character permanently parked there if that is the clase.

[Savok]

Reset all binds back to level 1 starting spawn points.