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ScottBerta
04-01-2020, 04:02 PM
Hello P99 Family,

I’m a long time player on server and play with my brother. We mostly just duo and do small group hood rat shit. We have several 60 chars including shaman, mage, Sk, Chanter and cleric. I mostly play the Shaman, Mage and Sk.

However, I want to make a new char to lvl up. My options of classes I’m considering are Druid, Paladin, Ranger, Warrior and Wizard. I don’t have much experience on any of these classes so I’d appreciate your suggestions on what you would recommend I make. The char will be a Twink with roughly 30-50k worth of pp to spend if that helps.


Thanks for your insight.

nyclin
04-01-2020, 06:07 PM
DRU/WIZ don't twink well for obvious reasons, but would result in a useful port bot for you and your brother. I wouldn't drop the full 30-50k on DRU/WIZ since you aren't really going to see a difference unless you can get your mana pool high enough to do multiple quads without medding.

out of that list, my pick would be WAR since you already have a hybrid, and 30-50k will go pretty far on a melee twink. not sure what current fungi prices are like but I imagine they aren't low enough to fit into a 30-50k build, but you can still do really well without one, especially if you have your brother buffing you with your other chars.

Muggens
04-02-2020, 12:28 AM
You would gain from having a porter. Not sure about druid thurgadin clicky armor, but a twinked wiz will lvl very fast as you can pull lots of mobs and quad em down from lvl 8.

Sacer
04-02-2020, 08:13 AM
Easily druid, you have no porter and potg is one of the best buff in the game. I would go wiz if you need TL to bind really badly for the SK.

kjs86z
04-02-2020, 10:05 AM
Definitely druid, and don't listen to these people about not being able to twink one.

To hell w/ quadding (would rather take my dick to a grinding wheel). Figure out a path to 60 mostly charming animals and get a ton of AC / HP with all the clickies you can manage (gazughi, DS gloves, snare earring, DoT bracer, yadda yadda)

I'd start with getting enough faction to get a velious BP for that utterly broken Regrowth of the Grove click.

Oh and druids can wear a fungi. Super strong if charming, you will be taking damage.

Could easily dump 100k into a druid and be an absolute baller animal charmer. They just buffed permafrost so bear pits...even without gear its a 55-60 superhighway.


edit: do you guys have a necro in your stable yet? make your bro play a necro and static duo...its a nasty little combo

ScottBerta
04-02-2020, 10:27 AM
His next alt will be necro, that’s why it wasn’t one of my options.

kjs86z
04-02-2020, 12:38 PM
His next alt will be necro, that’s why it wasn’t one of my options.

then play a druid alongside him and enjoy the synergy

no brainer

Crede
04-03-2020, 12:54 AM
Necro/Druid have terrible synergy. There's like 2 zones in the game that have both animals & undead.

Based on your listed options & the fact that your bro is going to be a Necro, I'd 100% go Warrior. Can deck one out pretty nicely with your budget, and you will have a viable slow option with Truncheon of Doom at higher levels which will pair well with Necro heals. Warrior tankage/dps/slows/bloodpoints 50+ to go with with necro cc/dps/fd/heals is going to be a pretty nasty duo.

If you're trying to roll the same race for this combo, 2x Gnomes would be cool, especially since Gnome warriors can 40% spell haste themselves. Can't go wrong with 2x Iksars either.

Tethler
04-03-2020, 02:02 AM
Necro/druid duo is great. I played necro with my brother's druid. You don't *need* to have 2 charm pets just because both classes can charm. Don't know what Crede is on about here.

kjs86z
04-03-2020, 08:39 AM
Necro/Druid have terrible synergy.

lol

Crede
04-03-2020, 10:17 AM
lol

Sorry, was I not clear?

Let me repeat, Necro/Druid is straight garbage. I guess if you only want to live in Chardok 50+ it's super cool.

If the Druid isn't charming animals, they basically have nothing to add to this. Ports? Who cares. Their heals won't do shit to unslowed necro summoned/charmed pets. One decent dot, a few nukes here and there? Lol, ok pal.

Warrior/necro beats this by a longshot and it's not even close. Sure I suppose you can make anything work if you're set on playing a particular class, but I'm telling you what's good and what isn't OP. What you choose to do with it is up to you.

Crede
04-03-2020, 10:27 AM
Necro/druid duo is great. I played necro with my brother's druid. You don't *need* to have 2 charm pets just because both classes can charm. Don't know what Crede is on about here.

What's a druid doing 50+? Throwing in a few roots/snares here & there with bad heals begging the Necro for twitches constantly? As I already said, you can "make" any duo work if you really want to, but Necro/Druid just isn't good.

Druid/Enchanter would be 100x better, but I didn't state that as the OP has already played an Enchanter. Now that one excites me. You can both charm in animal zones, druids provides snare which Enc doesn't have, necessary patch heals to enchanter which is all they really need, and can even somewhat heal an enchanter charmed pet with c2 & slows.

Ennewi
04-03-2020, 10:58 AM
The synergy is there. Both can invis. Both can summon pets, albeit the Druid one is in no way comparable to a Necromancer's. Druid can chloro the necro and patch heal, Necro can emergency lifetap on top of those heals. If there's a colossal train, Necro can FD and Druid can evac. Both can root/snare when pets break, plus SoW when outdoors. Charm is such a powerful spell; any class that has (even limited) access to it is in no way garbage.

Earthquake? Port to CS, succor across SG, track WW for Tantor. Can also port into South Ro and check on AC spawn. Jet over to Emerald Jungle, then zone into TT and do hunter/forager cycle together. A Warrior isn't needed for any of these targets.

Also, if wanting to complete Coldain shawl and ring quests, Druids are a massive help just by having animal charm and harmony.

Crede
04-03-2020, 11:17 AM
The synergy is there. Both can invis. Both can summon pets, albeit the Druid one is in no way comparable to a Necromancer's. Druid can chloro the necro and patch heal, Necro can emergency lifetap on top of those heals. If there's a colossal train, Necro can FD and Druid can evac. Both can root/snare when pets break, plus SoW when outdoors. Charm is such a powerful spell; any class that has (even limited) access to it is in no way garbage.

Earthquake? Port to CS, succor across SG, track WW for Tantor. Can also port into South Ro and check on AC spawn. Jet over to Emerald Jungle, then zone into TT and do hunter/forager cycle together. A Warrior isn't needed for any of these targets.

Also, if wanting to complete Coldain shawl and ring quests, Druids are a massive help just by having animal charm and harmony.

Valid points...but mostly cute/situational ways to make this duo work and just simply can't hold a candle to War/Necro, especially since OP has a healthy budget to gear the warrior.

Obviously always play what you think you'll enjoy the most, I'm just telling you the facts on what the most powerful duo is based on the options you've provided.

kjs86z
04-03-2020, 02:09 PM
I mean any competent necro is going to want to be charm killing undead.

How is a warrior more effective than a druid in this scenario?

Not trying to argue, just genuinely curious. I've played druid / necro myself and found it to be quite strong. Not A-Tier, but the necro I was with did the heavy lifting and I just made his job super easy in HS West.

Algustus
04-03-2020, 02:57 PM
Back in the day my gnome necro used to hang with a gnome wizard from the Legion of little people or some such guild, but we were a scarily effective duo.

Jimjam
04-03-2020, 03:08 PM
I found ranger and necro partner up nicely on many levels. Late 50s it goes into overdrive when you can buff regen, the pets attack, proc slow, self haste decently etc.

My only hesitation is it sounds like you might not have access to epics or the sky cloak?

ScottBerta
04-03-2020, 08:56 PM
Jimjam that is correct. We are casual non-Raiders who use to raid. We farm pp for items now.

Philistine
04-03-2020, 11:21 PM
I agree that necro and druids have great synergy. Will you both be charming all the time? No. But regen is hugely OP on a necro, the dots will stack, sow is awesome, ports are awesome, heals are awesome, added DD when needed. I love me a druid partner on my necro!

Fammaden
04-04-2020, 09:47 AM
Necros hate regen don't you know, terrible synergy!

tsuchang
04-04-2020, 07:50 PM
I agree that necro and druids have great synergy. Will you both be charming all the time? No. But regen is hugely OP on a necro, the dots will stack, sow is awesome, ports are awesome, heals are awesome, added DD when needed. I love me a druid partner on my necro!

That's what I was thinking.

But then, how about Ranger and Wizzie?