Star Trek: Picard

[galach]

I have really been enjoying this series. Glad that Star Trek has gone back to it's roots. Discovery is a fun show as well, but it doesn't feel like star trek to me. I always loved the prime timeline and glad we are going forward for the first time in a long time.

Season 2 has already been ordered, but I am wondering how long the series could possibly go with Patrick Stewart getting up there age wise.

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

I really liked discovery because it was a GRITTIER take on the federation. Showed a more ruthless side to the exploration ethos. I get why some dont like it though.

Not watched yet, utterly love Star Trek. Just recently rewatched voyager and enterprise.

[mcoy]

It's promising to be an interesting series. After seeing episode 2 last night I'm excited for the next one. Keep fighting the desire to wait for the season to finish and then binging it vs speculating what's going to happen in the next episode for a week.

-Mcoy

[Mblake81]

They got me in my youth/teens with the gay space communism ideals. DS9 is my favorite of the bunch. Didn't know Discovery was a thing until I seen a youtube link. Watched some highlights and never bothered with it again. 'Magic Mushroom spores'... god almighty wth is this..probably couldn't get enough DMT. wtf did they do to the Klingons!?

Picard.. no, pass and pass hard.

[galach]

They got me in my youth/teens with the gay space communism ideals. DS9 is my favorite of the bunch. Didn't know Discovery was a thing until I seen a youtube link. Watched some highlights and never bothered with it again. 'Magic Mushroom spores'... god almighty wth is this..probably couldn't get enough DMT. wtf did they do to the Klingons!?

Picard.. no, pass and pass hard.

I loved deep space nine as well. I loved the dominion story line throughout the series. Speaking of story lines, it looks like Picard won't have "filler" episodes and each story will fill the primary story line. I'm hoping that they have a long term plan and they don't run out of ideas after the first season.

[Horza]

They got me in my youth/teens with the gay space communism ideals.

https://i.imgur.com/0G1PBHd.gif

[Smellybuttface]

They got me in my youth/teens with the gay space communism ideals.

[Mblake81]

https://i.imgur.com/L96Hhdp.gif

[Scratch&Sniff]

new star trek is trash and old star trek isnt communist

[Horza]

Get out of my head, space communists!

[Mblake81]

https://i.imgur.com/FHjtRL7.jpg

[Wonkie]

replicators are Fucking Magic therefore it is a wizard show

I mean, vulcan ears...

[Fawqueue]

I have really been enjoying this series. Glad that Star Trek has gone back to it's roots. Discovery is a fun show as well, but it doesn't feel like star trek to me. I always loved the prime timeline and glad we are going forward for the first time in a long time.

Season 2 has already been ordered, but I am wondering how long the series could possibly go with Patrick Stewart getting up there age wise.

Just to correct one point: This isn't the Prime universe. Picard is under the same license as the JJ Abrams movies. That's why you won't see certain things from TNG (because they would have to pay for them) and the things you do see will generally be 25% different (because that's a requirement per the license).

The show overall is kind of aggravating. On one hand, Patrick Stewart is always fantastic so that's enjoyable. On the other, Kurtzman Trek is absurdly bad writing and this series is no different so far. I don't want to spoil anything for those who haven't seen it...but the show is better if you A) Have little knowledge of other Star Trek titles and B) can turn your brain off and not ask why or how, because otherwise you'll see little logic holes in almost every scene.

Oh and the rumor is Picard dies in the first season, because the show can't afford him, but the remaining crew will name their ship The Picard. Hence the title of the show, and it fits the naming conventions of a lot of other entries in the series (Voyager, Discovery, Deep Space Nine, Enterprise). So brace for that if you were only watching because of Sir Patrick.

[DMN]

Could've used a little somethin, somthin.

https://i.imgur.com/0h3VBE6.jpg

[Mblake81]

https://i.imgur.com/9PZrtFo.gif

[Zeboim]

Expanse season 5 wrapping its shooting right about now.

[Bardp1999]

Im rewatching the next generation on Netflicks right now, very excited to start Picard when im done. Never watched the new Star Trek series Discovery or whatever its called but I may give it a whirl

[Loke]

So I'm going to out myself as a big nerd here, if playing EQ didn't already do that, but I was pretty disappointed from having just seen the pilot. I was hoping for another TOS / TNG style explore the galaxy type show, but it seems like this one is going to have a more linear plot. Old Picard and a rag tag group of misfits taking on the evil Romulans just doesn't seem like Trek.

I loved the largely stand alone episodes of past trek series. Sure there were some weak ones, but if you didn't like the episodes one week, next week was usually something completely different. Trek differentiates itself from a lot of other sci-fi because while space politics and conflicts played a role, exploration and discovery was always the over arching theme, and I suspect that will be lacking in this series. I suppose there is some potential with the whole AI stuff, but it just seems like they've set it up to be really limited with a narrow and linear storyline.

[Mblake81]

So I'm going to out myself as a big nerd here, if playing EQ didn't already do that, but I was pretty disappointed from having just seen the pilot. I was hoping for another TOS / TNG style explore the galaxy type show, but it seems like this one is going to have a more linear plot. Old Picard and a rag tag group of misfits taking on the evil Romulans just doesn't seem like Trek.

I loved the largely stand alone episodes of past trek series. Sure there were some weak ones, but if you didn't like the episodes one week, next week was usually something completely different. Trek differentiates itself from a lot of other sci-fi because while space politics and conflicts played a role, exploration and discovery was always the over arching theme, and I suspect that will be lacking in this series. I suppose there is some potential with the whole AI stuff, but it just seems like they've set it up to be really limited with a narrow and linear storyline.

I am not sure what the parallels are between the world of the 80s and 90s with TNG and how that translates into "Picard" in the 2020s

What were the Klingons a response to? (https://youtu.be/R3vF9LXZePE?t=61)

Kirk and Riker getting space pussy was a response to what?

Patrick Stewart: ‘Star Trek: Picard’ A Response To The ‘F***ed’ World Of Brexit, Trump (https://www.dailywire.com/news/patrick-stewart-star-trek-picard-a-response-to-the-fed-world-of-brexit-trump)

Sir Patrick Stewart has become so incensed by Brexit and President Trump that he is willing to taint a beloved franchise with his modern political sensibilities.

Speaking with Variety, the acclaimed actor along with the show’s producers said that the much-anticipated “Star Trek: Picard” series on CBS All Access – a quasi-reboot of “The Next Generation” – will be a response to the Trumpian world of Brexit and nationalist populism.

“In a way, the world of ‘Next Generation’ had been too perfect and too protected,” said Stewart. “It was the Enterprise. It was a safe world of respect and communication and care and, sometimes, fun.”

However, for “Picard,” Steward wanted a show that reflected today’s world by centering the drama around how the Federation – the union of planets – takes “an isolationist turn.”

“[The show] was me responding to the world of Brexit and Trump and feeling, ‘Why hasn’t the Federation changed? Why hasn’t Starfleet changed?’ Maybe they’re not as reliable and trustworthy as we all thought,” Stewart said.

Stewart went to lament how both the United States and Britain are “f***ed” under President Trump and Boris Johnson. “I’m not sure which one of us is in the most trouble,” said Stewart. “I think it’s actually the U.K. I think we’re f***ed, completely f***ed.”

It's like a fanfic side show. The age of Reddit.

Hard Pass.

[Horza]

Stewart went to lament how both the United States and Britain are “f***ed” under President Trump and Boris Johnson. “I’m not sure which one of us is in the most trouble,” said Stewart. “I think it’s actually the U.K. I think we’re f***ed, completely f***ed.”

The show has been pretty mediocre so far (episode two is a slog), but Stewart isn't wrong just because he's offended your delicate sensibilities.

[Horza]

Put your faith in the Lord, not pop culture rubbish. Oh ye of little faith.

I just said the show has been rubbish, sorry that your self-worth is tied in with incompetent politicians.

[Mblake81]

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[Horza]

What makes you think I was speaking to YOU, particularly?

Are there not others participating in this thread, who seemingly have a little too much "invested" in this silly TV show and the need for it to reflect their ego's views?

So much Ego, so little Christ.

You said seek Christ without quoting anyone specific immediately after I made fun of conservatives, it seemed like a reasonable assumption.

[Fawqueue]

Put your faith in the Lord, not pop culture rubbish. Oh ye of little faith.

One of the best aspects of Star Trek is that it portrays an enlightened future where we stop praying to sky wizards and start taking destiny into our own hands. You all are tripping if you think the words of some dudes who would shit themselves if they saw a lightbulb somehow nailed the truth 2000 years ago.

[Mblake81]

One of the best aspects of Star Trek is that it portrays an enlightened future where we stop praying to sky wizards and start taking destiny into our own hands. You all are tripping if you think the words of some dudes who would shit themselves if they saw a lightbulb somehow nailed the truth 2000 years ago.

the truth?

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[Horza]

Those atheist, junky Star Trek fans make me so mad that I might even vote for the orange racist. :mad:

[Fawqueue]

Because we're totally progressing toward the Star Trek universe in today's hedonistic environment where savages shit on the sidewalk in the morning before crawling back into their tent to shoot up breakfast.

Wait, what does this have to do with religion? Are you suggesting that bad people are not religious, and good people are? I'm not sure I follow you otherwise.

If we find our way into a Trek-like future, it certainly won't be credited to silly devotions to archaic texts and mysticism.

[Swish]

https://i.imgur.com/BMOMoOr.gif

I remember that scene so well

[Wonkie]

"Bad" and "Good" is such a simpleton's way of seeing the world :)



Sometimes doing the right thing isn't the right thing to do.

Sometimes malarkey is better.

[Swish]

The show has been pretty mediocre so far (episode two is a slog), but Stewart isn't wrong just because he's offended your delicate sensibilities.

It's a sign the series is going to have some legs in it.

[Mblake81]

Wait, what does this have to do with religion? Are you suggesting that bad people are not religious, and good people are? I'm not sure I follow you otherwise.

If we find our way into a Trek-like future, it certainly won't be credited to silly devotions to archaic texts and mysticism.

People will still carry it into the stars, the same as they have everywhere. Even in star trek it is still there but they get to paint it with a different color because they can use alien races for it.. Romulans, Klingons, Ferengi and all of them represent humanity in some way or else it wouldn't be recognizable. Like I said, they got me with all of that gay space communism in my wide eyed youth. It's a reassuring show for athiests.

These days I would rather read Battletech. It's GOT in space and the only enemy is man (because there are no aliens)

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[Mblake81]

^ pretty much what Teppler alt / tranny-banned said.

Suspect 'slantzing' in operation

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[Mblake81]

https://i.imgur.com/12HFVzh.jpg?1

[mcoy]

What if technology is the drug?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TekWar

-Mcoy

[Bardp1999]

Im rewatching DS9 now while I work (work from home) almost on season 3, Dominion whispers are getting louder

[galach]

Im rewatching DS9 now while I work (work from home) almost on season 3, Dominion whispers are getting louder

Iksar look eerily similar to the Jem`Hadar

[stewe]

Just think, in the future when we got the real star trek fleets, president Trump will be known as the president that started it all, all future Picards will now be thanks to trump and his space force, i can sense the liberal tears from that realization.

[Horza]

I don't want to alarm you too much, stewe, but Star Trek is actually a work of fiction.

[Wonkie]

I don't want to alarm you too much, stewe, but Star Trek is actually a work of fiction.

the rare Horza dunk :D

[mcoy]

I don't want to alarm you too much, stewe, but Star Trek is actually a work of fiction.

Get outta here with that blasphemy!

-Mcoy

[Polycaster]

Wait, what does this have to do with religion? Are you suggesting that bad people are not religious, and good people are? I'm not sure I follow you otherwise.

If we find our way into a Trek-like future, it certainly won't be credited to silly devotions to archaic texts and mysticism.


1st para:
False. Science has proven many times over that religion is logical.

Religion increases social trust, among other things:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4971023/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0014292116300605

(note how the negatives of religion are almost all negative actions towards 'outsiders' which is actually a positive in practical terms)

the importance of social trust:
https://www.russellsage.org/publications/trust-society-0

https://www.amazon.com/Darwins-Cathedral-Evolution-Religion-Society/dp/0226901351


2nd para:
also false, and doubly so- the future won't be Trek and it will be due to archaic texts and mysticisms-
https://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/31/30655/b7d79bfa7dedb6ddb07c6b150f751c7d.jpg



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Personally, my favorite ST is Voyager due to it's gritty, anti-PC realism. They finally put a woman in charge and what does she do? Gets them lost for 8 seasons, never admitting its her fault for getting them lost and never being practical when opportunities to get home regularly occurred.

Seriously (?) though, my favorite ST episodes are the ones from the last season of ST: Enterprise where they go into a mirror universe. I loved how it meshed w/ the original ST episodes, and especially loved the window into a much more badass world than the namby-pamby pearl-clutchers of the Federation. Perhaps someday Trump and Putin will be able to unite the 2 halves of the world that each will soon possess into 1 through a marriage between Barron and a Putin granddaughter. When their line is united in a Child who sits upon the Golden Throne shall we then venture boldly into space. Not as cringeing explorers, but as triumphant conquerors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h67JpMyrOVE

[Horza]

Shut up Teppler.

[Swish]

The Picard series is moving at such a slow pace, its like watching paint dry.

[Gatorsmash]

I have really been enjoying this series. Glad that Star Trek has gone back to it's roots. Discovery is a fun show as well, but it doesn't feel like star trek to me. I always loved the prime timeline and glad we are going forward for the first time in a long time.

Season 2 has already been ordered, but I am wondering how long the series could possibly go with Patrick Stewart getting up there age wise.

https://youtu.be/hfQdf93e63I

Haven't watched it yet. As a die hard trek fan, the Expanse has destroyed Star Trek for me. It's like some Libertarian fan flick to me now because the Expanse is exactly how it would be. Humans will never get under one fkag

[Bardp1999]

Almost done with season 7 of DS9 now, rewatched most of TNG also. There are about 100x more episodes in both series that have the cast going back in time to some 40s or 50s era Earth than I ever remembered, the creators really were obsessed with this time period.

RIP Dax

[Zeboim]

I enjoyed Deep Space Nine.

But it was always in the shadow of the superior show: Babylon 5.

[Swish]

Almost done with season 7 of DS9 now, rewatched most of TNG also. There are about 100x more episodes in both series that have the cast going back in time to some 40s or 50s era Earth than I ever remembered, the creators really were obsessed with this time period.

RIP Dax

Best part of DS9 for me is the ferengi and Odo vs Quark. Didn't care much for the Kai or Garak's character progression, or Dumar, or half the cast actually :p

Have you seen the episode yet with Worf's son Alexander as a clumsy teenager? There was so much potential there.

[galach]

I'm loving the series so far. We have seen enough episodic adventures of Picard. This feels like the last adventure.

I'm guessing the twin is actually some sort of borg evolution that the borg learned to make after taking control of data. That would make sense why they are on a borg cube and why 7 of 9 is involved.

When they become "aware" that they are synthetic life, they go into kill mode & try to return to the hive.

[Ennewi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn7UNU9r51I

[Bardp1999]

Best part of DS9 for me is the ferengi and Odo vs Quark. Didn't care much for the Kai or Garak's character progression, or Dumar, or half the cast actually :p

Have you seen the episode yet with Worf's son Alexander as a clumsy teenager? There was so much potential there.

Quark is the best actor on the show by a landslide, or at least he fits his part better than anyone else. Odo vs Quark is better at the beginning of the series, they start really pushing for Quark to be seen as a "good guy". Half of the scenes with Dr. Bashir are nearly unwatchable due to his poor acting. I dig Garak but his storyline isn't that great, and yes Worf's clumsy idiot son is a funny contrast to Worf himself. Kira so hot, want to touch the hiney. I have mixed feelings on Cisco... But I would agree the heavy Ferangi element is the best part of DS9.

[Bardp1999]

Mid way through Voyager now. Think it is my favorite Star Trek series of them all at this point. Its the newest of TNG and DS9 may be why, but honestly, I think its the characters. The char development in Voyager is much greater than the other 2 series in my opinion and the series, in general, is more cohesive with reoccurring plots than the other 2. DS9 had story arcs but they typically lasted only a few episodes and didnt really get interesting until very late in the series with the Dominion. TNG are almost all stand alone it felt like (sans a couple 2-3 episode arcs)

[aketxeaqer]

this series is not about battles in space but a man and his luggage

[indiscriminate_hater]

Voyager is great, easily my favorite series

[Artaenc]

I have really been enjoying this series. Glad that Star Trek has gone back to it's roots. Discovery is a fun show as well, but it doesn't feel like star trek to me. I always loved the prime timeline and glad we are going forward for the first time in a long time.

Season 2 has already been ordered, but I am wondering how long the series could possibly go with Patrick Stewart getting up there age wise.I thought this was a movie coming out soon when I seen it on the billboard the other day. Another series to binge. Is it in apple/netflix or amazon prime?

[Fawqueue]

I thought this was a movie coming out soon when I seen it on the billboard the other day. Another series to binge. Is it in apple/netflix or amazon prime?

It's on CBS All Access. Skip it though...it's Star Trek in name only. Watching it and comparing it to TNG is like playing EQ live and comparing it to Classic.

[Pretzelle]

It's not been very good so far, sadly.