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galach
12-20-2019, 12:31 PM
What did everyone think of it?
Stuff I didn't like
• Knights of Ren: They kind of just had them show up and die. I don’t know all the lore behind them but I thought they were loyal to Kylo & not the emperor. Felt like they could have made their presence more felt. Felt like Snoke’s guards 2.0
• FIN & the ladies: Ray, Rose & and the new ex-trooper. Felt like it was too many, should have just went after one. I wonder if they added the ex-trooper because of the hate of Rose from episode 8. Kind of played off Poe and his bad luck with the ladies. Maybe FIN should have almost died to troopers and converted them to the rebellion instead.
• Poe’s Mysterious Girl: Why should I care about who she is?
• Death of Hux: He should have died doing something in the final battle, not just killed off in a second by some new admiral that just showed up.
• No Final ROTJ style epic space battle: I wish there was a longer space battle similar to ROTJ. Saw snippets here and there, but nothing that gave me that feeling as a kid. The ground war on the ship was strange as well.
• Emperor’s Return: I wish they would have gave us more how he survived & who the people living on the planet were. Clone of snoke will likely lead to the clone of Yoda from The Mandalorian.
• Kylo Ren/Ben Solo Death: I wish there was some sort of energy coming out of his hands to signal that he was saving her life to give his own. Was kind of shocked when he just ghosted.
Everything else was fine in the movie. I felt like they did as much as they could without making it 3.5 hours or breaking it into two movies.
FatMice
12-21-2019, 09:45 PM
After reading this I’ll just wait to find a free version online. Seems like a shit movie.
Topgunben
12-21-2019, 10:25 PM
Won’t watch it. These new Star Wars movies are pure garbage. Sad because I am a huge fan of the first six, even though they have their own problems.
NegaStoat
12-22-2019, 12:19 AM
I ruined the film for myself by watching a youtube rant from an uploader that I mostly respect the opinion of when he listed like 37 critical flaws with the movie, with the biggest one for me being that Emperor Palpatine is mentioned as having returned and openly threatened the galaxy with a message in the opening text crawl of the film.
So basically, right at the start you have this HUGE event of the big bad of the first 6 films somehow surviving the 2nd death star blowing up during the battle of Endor - but this event will play out off screen because it's not important or something. Also, the epitome of being the evil power behind the shadows with his being a Sith lord that was preserved SO strongly for the longest time is just tossed out the window too with this plot point.
I won't even go into his 'Master Plan' involving the attempted murder of one character by using a different character to set up the use of that targeted character... which would be useless if they had been killed... and how well the logic floats. Thank God the Mandalorian isn't total crap and is actually able to stand well on its own.
Won’t watch it. These new Star Wars movies are pure garbage. Sad because I am a huge fan of the first six, even though they have their own problems.
Agreeed
Vormotus
12-22-2019, 04:45 AM
is it on netflix yet?
This ...
Ostepop
12-22-2019, 05:58 AM
So Rey had two lightsabers, a blue one and a green one. She gives a blue one away to Ben with space magic, and has a blue one left. :confused:
So Rey had two lightsabers, a blue one and a green one. She gives a blue one away to Ben with space magic, and has a blue one left. :confused:
They seriously did something this fucking stupid?
Ostepop
12-22-2019, 06:37 AM
They seriously did something this fucking stupid?
Idk if I've missed something or what, couldn't find anyone else asking this particular question.
galach
12-22-2019, 03:04 PM
I ruined the film for myself by watching a youtube rant from an uploader that I mostly respect the opinion of when he listed like 37 critical flaws with the movie, with the biggest one for me being that Emperor Palpatine is mentioned as having returned and openly threatened the galaxy with a message in the opening text crawl of the film.
So basically, right at the start you have this HUGE event of the big bad of the first 6 films somehow surviving the 2nd death star blowing up during the battle of Endor - but this event will play out off screen because it's not important or something. Also, the epitome of being the evil power behind the shadows with his being a Sith lord that was preserved SO strongly for the longest time is just tossed out the window too with this plot point.
I won't even go into his 'Master Plan' involving the attempted murder of one character by using a different character to set up the use of that targeted character... which would be useless if they had been killed... and how well the logic floats. Thank God the Mandalorian isn't total crap and is actually able to stand well on its own.
It was actually broadcast in Fortnite... not kidding.
https://youtu.be/mAL2rTH7SAE
Torven
12-22-2019, 06:52 PM
The Disney movies are so bad I'm actually fascinated by how a beloved franchise can be so systematically eviscerated by corporate greed and incompetence. JJ succeeded in one-upping himself on his ruining of Star Trek. It amazes me how he gets any work at all. In America you fail upwards. It's almost as if they went out of their way to trash the original trilogy characters because that's what they did.
The only response to this terrible behavior is to boycott Disney. If you want to watch it to see how bad it really is, pirate it. Do not give them money. I was never a huge Star Wars fan (although I did like it) but the way Disney treated the fans is offensive to me as a nerd. My condolences.
Hazek
12-22-2019, 10:21 PM
Had to stop one of the newer starwars movies, forgot which one, because it was unbearably cheesy like something you'd see in an SNL skit. Literally couldn't keep watching. Never saw another one after that. The older movies were so gritty and epic.
NegaStoat
12-23-2019, 12:14 AM
The Disney movies are so bad I'm actually fascinated by how a beloved franchise can be so systematically eviscerated by corporate greed and incompetence.
The current state of the Star Wars, Star Trek, Terminator, Alien, and Predator franchises completely blows my mind. Just the timing of it is unreal.
Tethler
12-23-2019, 12:58 AM
It was pretty 'meh'. The galaxy had no sense of scale. Everyone just instantly at the next plot point somewhere else in the galaxy. Pace was too fast like they were cramming 2 movies worth of content into one.
Scale of space battles were huge, but still managed to somehow be unimpressive. It was too convienient that shooting the start destroyers in their BBC's just made them immediately explode. What kind of design is that?!
Rei didn't submit the proper paperwork to change her family name.
Fawqueue
12-23-2019, 03:37 AM
If you are an extremely casual fan of Star Wars, and a huge fan of JJ Abrams, you'll thoroughly enjoy this film. On the other hand, if you are even a moderate fan of Star Wars and care about either the lore of that universe, or just a narrative making sense in-general, you will watch this movie and hate everything about it.
It's literally a master-class on lazy writing. Everything that happens is extremely coincidental, and the only rationale is "but plot". Did we really need to add silly shit like 'force teleportation' so that Rey could give Kylo a lightsaber? Is it really necessary to establish that one lightsaber will block force lightning, but two will be that secret sauce that reflects it back and destroy the original source? Why has Lando been hanging out on that planet for 30 years after he and Luke gave up hunting for that Sith dagger?
You could ask why literally anything in this movie happens and then find yourself irritated at the explanation.
Torven
12-23-2019, 04:09 AM
The current state of the Star Wars, Star Trek, Terminator, Alien, and Predator franchises completely blows my mind. Just the timing of it is unreal.
No kidding. I liked all of those IPs until they ruined 'em. Movies nowadays are garbage. I'd rather watch some old movie I know I like instead of something new that is likely shit. If I had paid actual money to see Disney Star Wars I'd have been really mad.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around James Cameron blessing that Terminator flick with Daenerys Conner and his involvement in the new one. T2 and Aliens are such masterpieces. What happened to that guy?! I feel betrayed.
The thing is now that video games have become such a massive entertainment medium that we DO NOT NEED movies or television anymore. (I guess there was always books...) "They have nothing else to watch so they'll watch" doesn't work anymore. I stopped watching TV and movies, essentially. I don't get bored.
Nuggie
12-24-2019, 03:17 AM
I dunno dudes. I just got out of it. The first third of the movie was very much like Ray's first movie. The middle had a few predictable parts. By the end I was happy the movie was made and was entertaining(not edge your seat, mind you).
I am not sure i bought the love story between Kylo and Ray, but I think they did a good job on the end scene regardless. As with Galach I was a little taken aback when he ghosted. I am a little bit raising an eye brow about bringing people back from the dead, even with the trade of a life. Not natural. Not Jedi.
I enjoyed the younger version CSI's of Luke and Leai. Way better than when they did it with that Empire general. That tech has come a long way and I'm excited to see where Disney can take it in the future. Hopefully no more Leai.
I am not sure about the yellow(gold?) light saber at the end with Ray. What does that color signify? Super Sayan Jedi?
Bardp1999
12-24-2019, 03:52 AM
I thought it was a good movie and as fitting an end as possible given the odd story arc of the new films. Best of the last 3 by far, no regerts seeing it opening night.
Gatorsmash
12-26-2019, 08:07 PM
I dunno dudes. I just got out of it. The first third of the movie was very much like Ray's first movie. The middle had a few predictable parts. By the end I was happy the movie was made and was entertaining(not edge your seat, mind you).
I am not sure i bought the love story between Kylo and Ray, but I think they did a good job on the end scene regardless. As with Galach I was a little taken aback when he ghosted. I am a little bit raising an eye brow about bringing people back from the dead, even with the trade of a life. Not natural. Not Jedi.
I enjoyed the younger version CSI's of Luke and Leai. Way better than when they did it with that Empire general. That tech has come a long way and I'm excited to see where Disney can take it in the future. Hopefully no more Leai.
I am not sure about the yellow(gold?) light saber at the end with Ray. What does that color signify? Super Sayan Jedi?
I thought it was a good movie and as fitting an end as possible given the odd story arc of the new films. Best of the last 3 by far, no regerts seeing it opening night.
Palpatine wins. He kills or is involved in killing off the entire Skywalker line along with anybody who opposed him. Replacing the family lineage with his own.
Anybody who said shit similar to these two fucking mouth breathers above is so fucking dumb I feel like a new level of stupid has been discovered
Teppler
12-26-2019, 08:19 PM
These movies show how to not tell a decent story.
The older movies were based off ancient mythology(myth of Osiris and the djed in ancient Egypt) and have a really strong foundation there. These last 3 just seem like a collection of random mumbo jumbo. Put a bunch of 2019 social themes and surround them with lightsabers and Wookiee instead of constructing it story wise and thematically first. They definitely made this story up as they went along.
These movies make the prequels look well put together imo.
Fawqueue
12-27-2019, 01:46 AM
I dunno dudes. I just got out of it. The first third of the movie was very much like Ray's first movie. The middle had a few predictable parts. By the end I was happy the movie was made and was entertaining(not edge your seat, mind you).
I am not sure i bought the love story between Kylo and Ray, but I think they did a good job on the end scene regardless. As with Galach I was a little taken aback when he ghosted. I am a little bit raising an eye brow about bringing people back from the dead, even with the trade of a life. Not natural. Not Jedi.
I enjoyed the younger version CSI's of Luke and Leai. Way better than when they did it with that Empire general. That tech has come a long way and I'm excited to see where Disney can take it in the future. Hopefully no more Leai.
I am not sure about the yellow(gold?) light saber at the end with Ray. What does that color signify? Super Sayan Jedi?
It really depends on how much of a Star Wars fan you are going into this movie. If you casually watched other movies but never really immersed yourself in the lore, nor found it a particularly important part of your childhood, then you are likely happy enough with all three of the Disney movies. However, if Luke Skywalker and his exploits were important to your childhood, then this entire trilogy is a travesty.
I mean the movie ends with Rey, a Palpatine, having taken possession of Luke's X-Wing, his lightsaber, his homestead on Tatooine, and his god damn name. So...the Rise of Skywalker is really the ultimate victory of...Emperor's Palpatine's Grandchild? How is that a sensible way to honor and end the story that was supposed to be about a farm boy on a hero's journey?
Nirgon
12-27-2019, 04:00 AM
Oh look, retarded feminists who dont have a shit about Star Wars
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/227658879851298816/659876324021895175/FB_IMG_1577396602923.jpg
Shocker
"Ghostbusters" was retarded too
It's not about the story, or a plot or anything else
It's about Luke Skywalker's a girl now and this is the norm, so get used to seeing it everywhere cuz this is how it is
pfffshhhh
Sigourney Weaver in Aliens was a bad ass female star, this new Terminator etc shit is retarded and about pushing propaganda / conditioning you with "new norms"
aaezil
12-27-2019, 04:40 AM
The fat sweaty undesirables love to rail the new star wars movies. Its the new cool thing to do.
Only problem is saying the plot doesnt make sense in a fantasy sci fi “western” film is a good joke, though! The original three were laughaby bad movies by any serious measure but they were still good entertainment. Same way with the next 6 star warz.
TripSin
12-27-2019, 05:53 AM
I thought this movie was absolutely terrible. Comically bad story-telling and embarrassing cinematography.
solleks
12-27-2019, 11:32 AM
The premise of space is so outlandish it's hard to stomach a politically correct/space movie. Did not watch.
UglyTater
12-27-2019, 12:18 PM
I'm always amused when someone asks 'what did you think of this' and the response is 'well I didn't interact with it, but here's my opinion based on nothing'. Amazon question responses need a trash button by them.
I did see the movie, and man, did anyone have more fun this year than Billy Dee? He stole every scene he was in. The movie has its problems trying to deal with TLJ dealing with TFA, and then there's light speed skipping, and really it was too busy, but it's not nearly as bad as every fan boy is making it out. The thing about the original trilogy that helps it last is the stories are very simple, which is no longer the case in the movies being made. I don't know if I'll be seeing the next Star Wars movie on opening night, but I was happy to see this one, even with its problems.
Also, John Williams is the GOAT.
Horza
12-27-2019, 01:32 PM
Put a bunch of 2019 social themes and surround them with lightsabers and Wookiee instead of constructing it story wise and thematically
Oh look, retarded feminists who dont have a shit about Star Wars
You both seem to be handling galach banning political discussion here like normal, not terribly maladjusted people.
Canelek
12-28-2019, 04:59 PM
It was pretty OK, as with the rest of the trilogy. Left-field romance subplots aside, they built some cool set pieces.
And was it just me or did they steal the emperor robot-arm setup from Hellraiser II?
http://i.imgur.com/pZ7PjAE.jpg (https://imgur.com/pZ7PjAE)
Mblake81
01-03-2020, 06:05 PM
ROTJ speeder bike is the best action scene in Star Wars (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAjS-oyNjrg).
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