Best warrior race - in your opinion!

[Edzilla]

Which race would you pick?

Ogre is pretty obvious - but, is it worth the low dex?

[baalzy]

Wood Elf.

Style is everything

[xshayla701]

This is such a shitty poll.

[Edzilla]

I'm making a warrior alt - this is for research! Which is boring yes - but :(

[Edzilla]

Wood Elf.

Style is everything

If we wanted style - I would have to say Gnome.

[Hottbiscuits Dreadmuffin]

WhyyounochoosedarkelfI'moffended.

[xshayla701]

I'm making a warrior alt - this is for research! Which is boring yes - but :(

I refuse to vote.

[Edzilla]

Oops, I forgot Delfs - but only Rogean plays a delf warrior.

[Itching]

Ogre, best of everything :P, second best would be an Iksar

[lanystvyl]

Dark Elf is missing, I am the only one probably.

[Ihealyou]

I'm a dark elf warrior, and I can tell you from experience that they kick at least 1000% more ass than any other race

[hateshadow]

Human anyone?

[baalzy]

In all seriousness. As a pure tank, Ogre will be the best (just make absolutely sure you add in those 5 points of agility at creation).

From an ease of play standpoint (as much as I hate to say it) Halfling would be the best. Hide/sneak as racial abilities are incredibly useful for a warrior, they have decent starting stats, and with the additional xp bonus (on top of warriors xp bonus) you can get the most out of ever mob that your groups kill. And you don't get stuck while running through dungeons the way an ogre/troll/barb would.

But I hate halflings (it stems from bad experiences on live where 9 out of 10 halflings were complete r-tard druids), so I'd rather roll a wood elf and exchange sneak for forage while stilll having hide. Albiet, subpar stats.

If any other race granted sneak as a racial, i'd probably go with that race instead.

[feste]

the lack of darkelf is horrible! they are the best warriors hands down.

[Pezmerga]

In all seriousness. As a pure tank, Ogre will be the best (just make absolutely sure you add in those 5 points of agility at creation).

From an ease of play standpoint (as much as I hate to say it) Halfling would be the best. Hide/sneak as racial abilities are incredibly useful for a warrior, they have decent starting stats, and with the additional xp bonus (on top of warriors xp bonus) you can get the most out of ever mob that your groups kill. And you don't get stuck while running through dungeons the way an ogre/troll/barb would.

But I hate halflings (it stems from bad experiences on live where 9 out of 10 halflings were complete r-tard druids), so I'd rather roll a wood elf and exchange sneak for forage while stilll having hide. Albiet, subpar stats.

If any other race granted sneak as a racial, i'd probably go with that race instead.


Ogre Warriors have a 75 Agility base.
Ogre SKs dont... I made the mistake of leaving it at 70, so i gotta make sure i got 75 agi through gear lol. Isnt too hard with Djarns Amethyst Ring. CRs are the only time i got 70 Agi.

[Dantes]

I wouldn't have voted for Dark Elf if you had included it in the poll, and I am a Dark Elf Warrior. I'll admit it, we suck. We lack STR/STA, but unlike just about every other race, we don't make up for it with DEX. Our AGI is decent, but some other races have more. Certainly the majority of people who choose it as a race are just saying "eff the system" and picking it because they want to be different. Anyway, with my 100+ unbuffed INTELLIGENCE, I can totally beat you in mana pool - if I had mana. But I don't, so yeah.

[Vonkaar]

Halfling in 2nd place, obviously people have done their homework.

[Edzilla]

Oops, I forgot humans too - lol. Wish I could edit polls.

Is it 75 or 80 agi needed to not get the Ac pent? i thought it was 80.

[Estu]

Ogre, definitely. But my short-lived warrior (before I decided I'd rather have a paladin tank) was a halfling because halflings are my favorite race. They also have a lot of DEX, which is nice. I'm not sure how useful sneak/hide are when they're capped at 50 (and hence fail a lot), but it's a nice little bonus, I guess.

[Pezmerga]

Oops, I forgot humans too - lol. Wish I could edit polls.

Is it 75 or 80 agi needed to not get the Ac pent? i thought it was 80.

After 75 you get diminishing returns from what I understand. My SK has like 84 Agi even with a base of 70.

[Ihealyou]

I wouldn't have voted for Dark Elf if you had included it in the poll, and I am a Dark Elf Warrior. I'll admit it, we suck. We lack STR/STA, but unlike just about every other race, we don't make up for it with DEX. Our AGI is decent, but some other races have more. Certainly the majority of people who choose it as a race are just saying "eff the system" and picking it because they want to be different. Anyway, with my 100+ unbuffed INTELLIGENCE, I can totally beat you in mana pool - if I had mana. But I don't, so yeah.

You're missing the point, its all about fashion. Dark elves look good, and when you look good, you feel good. When you feel good, you play good. Be proud that intelligence will be your second highest stat.

[Akim]

Any large race, ogre troll barb
I guess Iksar or halfling to be different
Real balls are going wood elf, half elf; dark elf even.
hah gnome.
dwarf is what I went my first time around, bitchin' rolls.

[Hasbinbad]

Voted Ogre, because style is everything.

[Dravingar]

Voted Halfling because they are the best at everything.

[President]

How is this NOT half elf? The HELMETS!

[toddfx]

xshayla701 the DE in your avatar looks like a Starfleet officer!

[PureLo]

Troll for sure best of both worlds.... size/stats close to the Ogre and the innate regen of an Iksar.

close thread

[Edzilla]

Troll for sure best of both worlds.... size/stats close to the Ogre and the innate regen of an Iksar.

close thread

I don't like the way they run. They run like they just got off the short bus.

[nalkin]

You're missing the point, its all about fashion. Dark elves look good, and when you look good, you feel good. When you feel good, you play good.

qft

[xshayla701]

You're missing the point, its all about fashion. Dark elves look good, and when you look good, you feel good. When you feel good, you play good. Be proud that intelligence will be your second highest stat.

This is why you're in my guild and not Dantes.

xshayla701 the DE in your avatar looks like a Starfleet officer!

I don't know what that means but I feel good that I got attention from a P99er today

[Ennoia]

Which race would you pick?

Ogre is pretty obvious - but, is it worth the low dex?

You neglected to put in Dark Elf, and are therefore, a moron.

[Nug]

Partial to Troll, myself. I always thought they looked the best.

[Edzilla]

You neglected to put in Dark Elf, and are therefore, a moron.

You have not read the thread, and are therefore, a moron.

[Rukku]

Trolls have more sta/dex/agi combined than Ogres. You'll max out that str with gear or buffs easily regardless. Frontal stun immunity is the Ogres' only real advantage at this point. During Kunark on live when they held the warrior best of the best, 3 of the final 4 were Trolls and the final two were Trolls.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgeGwNh6xrk

[Messianic]

I voted ogre...but im partial to halfling warriors for sneak/hide. Indispensable to a warrior outside of combat...

[skorge]

Ogres all the way. My twink is an assling warrior tho for the same things the guy said above me.

[Edzilla]

Trolls have more sta/dex/agi combined than Ogres. You'll max out that str with gear or buffs easily regardless. Frontal stun immunity is the Ogres' only real advantage at this point. During Kunark on live when they held the warrior best of the best, 3 of the final 4 were Trolls and the final two were Trolls.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgeGwNh6xrk


Why is str even considered? Sure it equals more damage, which gives a little bit more aggro - but, Stam should really be the main stat. Which, as a troll, will be much more difficult to max out (ogres start with 150, if you max it out - that's pretty impressive.)

[Ingrum]

This shouldn't even be a question!

Dwarf o' course! Haha! +15 innate magic resistance, very well rounded stats, we fit everywhere and everywhere (whether fighting or flighting we don't have to duck!), and how could ye forget tha Irontoe's most famous Barrel Roll(C)!? Mobs hate it while tha chicks dig it!

Not to mention the best history and home city in Norrath! We've got the most potent ale, tenderest roast meat of the boar, and theeeee finest bearded babes that Brell has ever seen!

Slam? Don't even freakin' matter later on, since all o' us Warriors get Interrupt added to our mighty kicks after 55 seasons.

And bah! Frontal stun immunity? Does that even work? Pssssht.

When Ingrum freakin' Irontoe gets to smackin around gobbies with his Sarnak Warhammer there ain't NO need bein immune ta nothin'!

And oy! Those biguns smell like rotten forest giant arse while them furry footses spend more time cleanin' their after after after dinner plate than spillin' blood on tha glorious battlefield!

Need I say more? I should! But I shan't.

[Tobius]

This shouldn't even be a question!

Dwarf o' course! Haha! +15 innate magic resistance, very well rounded stats, we fot everywhere and everywhere (whether fighting or flighting we don't have to duck!), and how could ye forget tha Irontoe's most famous Barrel Roll(C)!? Mobs hate it while tha chicks dig it!

Not to mention the best history and home city in Norrath! We've got the most potent ale, tenderest roast meat of the boar, and theeeee finest bearded babes that Brell has ever seen!

Slam? Don't even freakin' matter later on, since all o' us Warriors get Interrupt added to our mighty kicks after 55 seasons.

And bah! Frontal stun immunity? Does that even work? Pssssht.

When Ingrum freakin' Irontoe gets to smackin around gobbies with his Sarnak Warhammer there ain't NO need bein immune ta nothin'!

And oy! Those biguns smell like rotten forest giant arse while them furry footses spend more time cleanin' their after after after dinner plate than spillin' blood on tha glorious battlefield!

Need I say more? I should! But I shan't.

This.

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[knottyb0y]

Troll is my personal favorite. Great starting stats, slam, regen is cool but when you have THAT many hit points its an extra drop of water in the ocean.

Warriors by size

Large Warriors (Barbarians, Ogres and Trolls)

Slam is worth it.
- Yeah kick starts stunning at level 55. There are only 60 levels, you are giving yourself a 55 level disadvantage. Slam makes caster fights much more bearable and has a chance to stun. Large Warriors are truly superior because of their beefy stats

Barbarian Starting Stats
+Slam, Not hated by good races
STR 113 STA 105 AGI 87 Dex 70

Troll Starting Stats
+Slam, +Regen
STR 118 STA 119 AGI 88 Dex 75

Compare these to an Ogre
+Slam, +Frontal Stun Immunity
STR 140 STA 132 AGI 75 Dex 70

Ogres claim superiority in the strength department (22/27 point advantage over TRL/BAR) and stamina (13/27 point advantage). They are supposed to have frontal stun immunity(not sure how well that works atm). Quite frankly Ogres are the superior warrior by stats.


The rest of the Pack

Other races can make great warriors, the beauty of the class is that while large races are the front runner with the right gear the playing field is seriously leveled (Even a dark elf and Gnome can eventually max out STR and STA).

Dark Elf Starting Stats
+Hide, Look cool?
STR 70 STA 75 AGI 90 DEX 75

Dark elves are fun to play but their physical stats kinda suck. They do have great Agility but the rest is very average. Overcome it with lots of stamina and strength gear. You do look really cool though.

Dwarf Starting Stats
+15mr
STR 100 STA 100 AGI 75 DEX 90

Dwarves have great starting stats, best strength for a non-large race and they roll!

Gnome Starting Stats
+tinkering
STR 70 STA 80 AGI 90 DEX 85

Gnomes don't have great stats, their agility and dex is above average.

Half Elf Starting Stats
STR 80 STA 80 AGI 95 DEX 85

Half elves have a very balanced starting build with a above average dex and agi I don't see any glaring flaws in their game.

Halfling Starting Stats
+Sneak +Hide
STR 80 STA 85 AGI 100 DEX 90

In my opinion if you are not a Ogre of Troll warrior, be a Halfling (closely followed by dwarf and barb). Why? Sneak and Hide gives you flexibility outside of combat (trading, questing, moving through dangerous areas) that no other warrior has.

Human Starting Stats
STR 85 STA 85 AGI 80 DEX 75

Humans similar to half elves are very balanced, probably never been a bad human warrior.

Iksar Starting Stats
+Regen, +natural AC bonus, No plate armor till Velious
STR 80 STA 80 AGI 95 Dex 85

Iksar pretty much make good anything, but lack of plate kinda sucks for a gear depending mitigation based class

Wood Elf Starting Stats
Hide
STR 75 STA 75 AGI 100 Dex 80

Really only be a wood elf if you really like Wood elves...They do look really cool in platemail though.

If you just want the best stats go with Ogre, otherwise go with what you think is cool. If I personally ever play a warrior on P99 (played one on live for a long time) I'd roll halfling or troll or ogre.

[moklianne]

DELF, but since you don't have it listed, Gnome. No need to shrink/illusion when cornering, etc.

[redghosthunter]

Only reason i picked ogre was for the Front Stun which u gotta have on really difficult raids. Other then RAIDs, for basic lvling, I'd go DWF. DWF got the good 3 WAR stats- STR/STA/DEX . Being small is the way to go. Dont forget that extra attack ya get from that horned helmet.

[Ingrum]

Look at that Ogre propaganda bullsh*t! It's unfair that they're so fat that they're practically walking billboards.

I demand a recount!

Also... this!
DWF got the good 3 WAR stats- STR/STA/DEX . Being small is the way to go. Dont forget that extra attack ya get from that horned helmet.

[Edzilla]

Man... Iksar barely makes second ahead of gnome and halfling? Ogre at 43% makes sense: massive STA, stun immunity. But Iksars are the only race that can rival Ogre as a tank. Iksar Warriors ultimately have the highest mitigation possible in the game, even if they do lose some aggro/DPS through stuns.


What is the exact AC bonus that an iksar gets at level 60? As a warrior?

[Spud]

Halflings due to their ability to hide and outlevel everyone

[malroth69]

You people are nuts! Dwarves all the way, their tuck'roll animation is beyond awesome! Going to a mob, hit jump before you get there and tuck'roll into the mob=AWESOME! :)

[guineapig]

Added Dark Elf for ya!

[guineapig]

Halflings due to their ability to hide and outlevel everyone

Agree!:D

[Goraxx]

dark elf sympathy vote :-(

poor inkies

[Edzilla]

Added Dark Elf for ya!

Thanks! would you add humans too? I'm a fail poller.

[guineapig]

Thanks! would you add humans too? I'm a fail poller.


Done and no worries. ;)

[baalzy]

now you should reset the poll so everyone can re-vote :p

[Edzilla]

now you should reset the poll so everyone can re-vote :p

I think only 2 or 3 people wanted to vote Delf or human. Actually, dont think anyone mentioned they wanted to actually vote human, just saying that it wasn't there.

[Orc Pawn]

Gnome. Anyone who can play a Gnome Warrior successfully gets instant credibility for playing such a crazy combo.

[Bruno]

Ogre. No need to explain.

[Knuckle]

Can tank any Kunark content no problem as human warrior, all preference. There are advantages to different races for PVP, but I still like human best. Furor from FoH was a human warrior, u bluebies god figure for pve.

[Mardur]

Any race can tank any expansion. Race actually matters way more in classic, as gear doesn't scale the same as mob difficulty (when you're tanking mobs hitting for 700-1000 any tank is going to die in the same number of rounds). Gear far outweighs any racial advantages as you move through the expansions. When you're running CH chains in Velious, it doesn't really matter who's tanking as long as they're a warrior. One of our main tanks in IV (sleeper top guild) was a gnome warrior.

[Dantes]

Can tank any Kunark content no problem as human warrior, all preference. There are advantages to different races for PVP, but I still like human best. Furor from FoH was a human warrior, u bluebies god figure for pve.

And your helmet makes you look like the rocketeer.

[camoss16]

I played a Barb War on live as my main so I'm partial to them. I was a newb to the game and simply liked the helmets and that was enough for me to roll with one. As I matured and learned more about the game I can say I never regretted my choice.

Some reasons why Barbarians are easily the best Warrior race to play:

-Being a large race allows us to slam opponents. A quick refreshing innate no mana stun ability is priceless. It helps fighting casters and also helps produce aggro.

-Can wear Medium and Large armor. Useful if you're in a guild or have a good amount of friends on the server. The vast majority of hand me downs/hand outs are going to fit you. This helped me out a ton especially as my warrior was my first character on live. Also Medium Bronze armor is much more forgiving than Large. Warriors have high strength (especially large races) but they're the worst at two things in this game, travel and making money. Banking expeditions were few and far between for me and I hated to give up even spare copper while out on the exp grind.

-Best zones. Barbarians have the best City (Halas), Newbie Zone (Everfrost), and 1st zone leaving your newbie zone (Blackburrow). All IMO of course.

-Best Faction. Have Rallos Zek as your god and you can walk into nearly every town.

-Best looks. Simple fact :) Be it leather when you're a newbie or plate later on you're going to have the best looking helmet on the block. I don't care if Half Elves look like Robocop the horn helm is still cooler.

Again being a Large race is simply going to be more advantageous to you until you hit 55. Troll regen, like someone else pointed out, is simply a drop in the bucket for a warrior with the massive HPs you're going to have and doesn't the Ogre's frontal stun immunity not work? Plus I simply don't like the look of the character models. For these reasons I like the Barbarian over the other two even though Barbarians seem to be the forgotten of the "Big 3."

[Mardur]

Ogre frontal stun immunity works 100% perfectly on p99. I don't know why everyone keeps saying it doesn't.

[Edzilla]

I played a Barb War on live as my main so I'm partial to them. I was a newb to the game and simply liked the helmets and that was enough for me to roll with one. As I matured and learned more about the game I can say I never regretted my choice.

Some reasons why Barbarians are easily the best Warrior race to play:

-Being a large race allows us to slam opponents. A quick refreshing innate no mana stun ability is priceless. It helps fighting casters and also helps produce aggro.

-Can wear Medium and Large armor. Useful if you're in a guild or have a good amount of friends on the server. The vast majority of hand me downs/hand outs are going to fit you. This helped me out a ton especially as my warrior was my first character on live. Also Medium Bronze armor is much more forgiving than Large. Warriors have high strength (especially large races) but they're the worst at two things in this game, travel and making money. Banking expeditions were few and far between for me and I hated to give up even spare copper while out on the exp grind.

-Best zones. Barbarians have the best City (Halas), Newbie Zone (Everfrost), and 1st zone leaving your newbie zone (Blackburrow). All IMO of course.

-Best Faction. Have Rallos Zek as your god and you can walk into nearly every town.

-Best looks. Simple fact :) Be it leather when you're a newbie or plate later on you're going to have the best looking helmet on the block. I don't care if Half Elves look like Robocop the horn helm is still cooler.

Again being a Large race is simply going to be more advantageous to you until you hit 55. Troll regen, like someone else pointed out, is simply a drop in the bucket for a warrior with the massive HPs you're going to have and doesn't the Ogre's frontal stun immunity not work? Plus I simply don't like the look of the character models. For these reasons I like the Barbarian over the other two even though Barbarians seem to be the forgotten of the "Big 3."

If you like wearing a skirt. Sure.

[jdmchris]

Gnome Warrior fa shows, I have a 50 Gnome Warrior and I look cute as well as kick ass!

[randal.flagg]

Any race can tank any expansion. Race actually matters way more in classic, as gear doesn't scale the same as mob difficulty (when you're tanking mobs hitting for 700-1000 any tank is going to die in the same number of rounds). Gear far outweighs any racial advantages as you move through the expansions. When you're running CH chains in Velious, it doesn't really matter who's tanking as long as they're a warrior. One of our main tanks in IV (sleeper top guild) was a gnome warrior.

This is a really good point...

[Rushmore]

Its not about how you start but its how you finish. My gnome on VZ/TZ had more hp unbuffed than people like Xantille who is a hall of famer. With a big race your stats get maxed quickly so in the end it works to your disadvantage.

[Kender]

Its not about how you start but its how you finish. My gnome on VZ/TZ had more hp unbuffed than people like Xantille who is a hall of famer. With a big race your stats get maxed quickly so in the end it works to your disadvantage.

which was wy halfling tanks were omoung the best in velious. far easier for a halfling warrior to max sta/str than it was for an ogre to max agi/dex

[notahipster]

barbarian warriors always made me feel like i was William Wallace.

but William Wallace is 7 feet tall.....

Yes, I've heard. Kills men by the hundreds. And if HE were here, he'd consume the English with fireballs from his eyes, and bolts of lightning from his arse.

[Dantes]

You guys are in denial. It's like listening to a guy with a small-tittied girlfriend say "All it takes is a handful." Yeah, you keep telling yourself that buddy.

[MegamanXZOBMV]

If I cared about stats and such, I'd probably roll as a Troll Warrior. I tend to solo a lot, just the way I am really, and the troll regeneration would be nifty to have.

But my main Warrior has been, and always will be, a Half-Elf. ;D

[Wonton]

Troll or Iksar, or go home

[aaronjames666]

my vote is for the troll..atleast they dont 100% need a group every time they hunt XD.. well something tells me the iskar isnt far behind in that ability..

[aaronjames666]

iksar i mean .. dammit..