You dont know what you have until you lose it

[Fingurs]

Shout out to Dial a Port. A service that was completely taken for granted.

Since green has come out and decimated Blue's #s from 1500+ to 200 - 500, people have had to get creative with ports.

"Where is DAP?" can be often read in shout/gu/etc...


Here is a toast to Dial a Port. May your ventures on Green/Teal/BrownSugar/Rogean's Basement be just as fruitful.

We had some good times eh?

[kjs86z]

Most druids / wizards will give you a ride if you offer to pay them well enough.

The remaining porters are making more money per port than ever before.

[Tilien]

Shout out to Dial a Port. A service that was completely taken for granted.

Since green has come out and decimated Blue's #s from 1500+ to 200 - 500, people have had to get creative with ports.

"Where is DAP?" can be often read in shout/gu/etc...


Here is a toast to Dial a Port. May your ventures on Green/Teal/BrownSugar/Rogean's Basement be just as fruitful.

We had some good times eh?


I mean immediately before green blue had a peak population of about 1000, and now it has a peak of about 500. About a year ago the peak was also about 1000.

Blues population drop is not as bad as people make it out to be, but it's definitely far more solo friendly than non solo friendly.

Green is more popular than Blue's peak.

[Crede]

I mean immediately before green blue had a peak population of about 1000, and now it has a peak of about 500. About a year ago the peak was also about 1000.

Blues population drop is not as bad as people make it out to be, but it's definitely far more solo friendly than non solo friendly.

Green is more popular than Blue's peak.

What peak are we talking about? Blue had big numbers 1-2 years ago, was floating around 1700 for awhile.

[Tilien]

First, we can see qualitatively that there was a spike in population in December/January of 2018/2019: https://www.reddit.com/r/project1999/comments/ae7bls/server_population_increase/


Then we can see this quantitatively:
https://unixgeek.com/eqemu.html

Before the end of December 2018 spike there are ~1200 players as a daily peak population.

In September 2019 this peak population is ~1000 or less. Since Green's release I believe there are only 2 days with under 500 as a peak population.

The 1500+ only exists after reddit/discord/twitch pushed the population up at the end of last year. Unfortunately data is not reported further back, but we can see older posts confirm that the population was closer to 1-1.2k going back to 2016: https://www.project1999.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-257178.html

So we see what would probably be the steady state population of ~1000-1200 maximum per day, followed by an increase in January, followed by a slow decline to normal in September, followed by a drop of about 50% due to green. The population 9 months ago was much higher than the population had been in years due to Reddit, Discord and Twitch.

[FatherSioux]

I mean immediately before green blue had a peak population of about 1000, and now it has a peak of about 500. About a year ago the peak was also about 1000.

Blues population drop is not as bad as people make it out to be, but it's definitely far more solo friendly than non solo friendly.

Green is more popular than Blue's peak.

A 50% decrease in max population is a giant change.

[Tilien]

A 50% decrease in max population is a giant change.

Right... but it's a lot smaller than the "we went from 1500 to 200" drop people are citing. Comparing peak weekend hours to 8am on a Monday. I'm not saying it hasn't been impacted, but there are still groups. I leveled my paladin from 20-35 after green dropped and had a group every time I logged in and looked for it.

[kotton05]

the blue exodus has begun. 0 reason to play on the beta anymore and more will realize this.

Ps you can from level 20-35 on a server with 0 pop but you can’t fix years of a broken inflated economy and the top end heavy kunark (the amount of chardok aoe that occurred was gross). I’m sure most are noobs and don’t understand why this is bad... oh well

This time around the kinks are gone.

[Tilien]

There is no reason to continue playing on the server you're enjoying.



Right on man. You enjoy yourself trying to attack other people having fun :)

[mycoolrausch]

the blue exodus has begun. 0 reason to play on the beta anymore and more will realize this.

Ps you can from level 20-35 on a server with 0 pop but you can’t fix years of a broken inflated economy and the top end heavy kunark (the amount of chardok aoe that occurred was gross). I’m sure most are noobs and don’t understand why this is bad... oh well

This time around the kinks are gone.

Blue will become the natural home of level capped players who still want to hang out with their friends, do some light raiding, and work on their alt projects, without trying to compete in the hardcore environment of in-timeline progression.

Blue is not the beta server, it's the retirement server. It just needs a bit more work to get it there (more regular quakes, and eventually custom content).

[Danth]

0 reason to play on the beta anymore and more will realize this.

I was on "Blue" lately and I enjoyed it. That's enough of a reason for me. Got a problem with that? My fun is not contingent on there being 300 or 800 or 1200 other people on the same server.

You've seemed a little unhappy with P99 ever since your favorite guild folded up. I don't blame you. In a sense I'm a little jealous....in ten years here I've never found a guild that I cared about enough to be unhappy with it closing.

Danth

[Swish]

Try blue server

[Fingurs]

Well then there is the whole GReen will be blue eventually thing. It all works out.

Master Plan 300 IQ Executed.

[Veeshan31]

Try blue server

It’s official. Blue is the new red.

[Malikail]

Well then there is the whole GReen will be blue eventually thing. It all works out.

Master Plan 300 IQ Executed.

Maybe. With the population numbers the way they are that would be a catastrophic mistake not to mention a couple of decisions seem to have been made like allowing the same name to be used on blue and green as long as it's the same account that would preclude this making it difficult if not impossible to roll the servers together.

If I was a betting man I wouldn't even give it a 50-50 chance of happening

[Madbad]

consider red

[Tilien]

Maybe. With the population numbers the way they are that would be a catastrophic mistake not to mention a couple of decisions seem to have been made like allowing the same name to be used on blue and green as long as it's the same account that would preclude this making it difficult if not impossible to roll the servers together.

If I was a betting man I wouldn't even give it a 50-50 chance of happening

Technical naming issues aside how would it be a mistake? Green will eventually die down to Blue's old population of about 1200 and who knows where blue is. End of time line they have the option of having 2 rot servers or 1, and splitting up the end of time line servers will just split the community. If blue doesn't get to red levels of population there is *no* reason not to merge them.

[Malikail]

Technical naming issues aside how would it be a mistake? Green will eventually die down to Blue's old population of about 1200 and who knows where blue is. End of time line they have the option of having 2 rot servers or 1, and splitting up the end of time line servers will just split the community. If blue doesn't get to red levels of population there is *no* reason not to merge them.

If all of those things happen sure, but there's an old saying about "if". Today, Green and Teal are ok during the week and completely overpopulated on weekends. What if more people join as time goes on? I will play Teal alot more as it gets closer to Kunark, not a fan of this era in the first place but it gets a lot better post temple of solro, what if there are a couple hundred that feel like me? Then you'd need another server split, 1k (at peak) is about the max original eq has content for. We have no idea what the future holds, i don't think as many will leave as you do so I wouldn't even give it a 50% chance of happening simply because it would put too many active players on a server.

[Mud]

the blue exodus has begun. 0 reason to play on the beta anymore and more will realize this.

This is hyperbole and short-sighted, Merkk.

People will leave these "full/classic" Green/Teal servers or even quit P99 entirely once they realize what they thought would deliver the ultimate Everquest experience has let them down. Raiding on Green and Teal will make raiding on Blue look like child's play. The top guild will ruthlessly crush everyone else and most people will not get an epic within these servers' fully-known timeline. Even without taking raiding into consideration, the competition for legacy items such as Manastones, Guises, and Thex Daggers has in just a few weeks demonstrated that the magic of classic Everquest can never be fully recreated. This is through no fault of the Project's devs, but rather due to the age of the game and circumstances of the project in its decade-long existence. The anticlimax of Green and Teal will hit and it will hit hard.

This isn't 1999 and it never will be again. This isn't 2009 and it never will be again.

To the thread topic, I'm grateful for DaP and have given y'all a lot of business over the years. Cheers guys.

[Oldschoolplayer]

I agree, thank you DaP!

[Fammaden]

So many cheap ass people who complained and called them derisive names like a "cartel" and shit in the past. Most of them are probably on green/teal now, but if not they got what they deserved for being selfish shits. Some idiots would strip naked to pretend to be on a CR rather than pony up a plat per level.

[Fammaden]

A 50% decrease in max population is a giant change.

Of course it its, blue got Thanos snapped. It might bounce back some, or a lot, based on how this goes longer term. There's a significant enough number of people who say they are going back to blue after getting a legacy or three.

The green raid scene could be a hot disaster, even without the content monopolization I can't see raiding with a bunch of mana intensive 49 resses being too fun. Not sure how well the bard kite strat will do at level 50 in Fear. Hate with no push interrupt on the gaters and a bunch of level 50s? Forget about doing sky any time soon without about 150+ people.

I could see a lot of raiders coming back at least part time for spawns after they get a level 50 main on green. Especially with boxing of the two servers to be able to camp/farm on one account and be on blue with the other. The cynical, and maybe more realistic, side of me says blue is never bouncing back though.

[Tilien]

If all of those things happen sure, but there's an old saying about "if". Today, Green and Teal are ok during the week and completely overpopulated on weekends. What if more people join as time goes on? I will play Teal alot more as it gets closer to Kunark, not a fan of this era in the first place but it gets a lot better post temple of solro, what if there are a couple hundred that feel like me? Then you'd need another server split, 1k (at peak) is about the max original eq has content for. We have no idea what the future holds, i don't think as many will leave as you do so I wouldn't even give it a 50% chance of happening simply because it would put too many active players on a server.

I mean you're the one assuming that Green/Teal will maintain 2k+ players, and that when Green 2.0 is released Green 1.0 will not be impacted even slightly the way Blue was. That's far more "ifs" than Green having a mild population drop lol.

[Nirgon]

Time to stop playing the beta server for betas

Real EverQuest is offered here, not a box that's been overfarmed for 3x it's timeline with all kinds of exploits

[Tilien]

Don't do things you enjoy, it scares and confuses me when people enjoy things I don't.

At least you admit it :)

[wagorf]

the blue exodus has begun. 0 reason to play on the beta anymore and more will realize this.

Ps you can from level 20-35 on a server with 0 pop but you can’t fix years of a broken inflated economy and the top end heavy kunark (the amount of chardok aoe that occurred was gross). I’m sure most are noobs and don’t understand why this is bad... oh well

This time around the kinks are gone.

This means absolutely nothing in enjoying the game. It only matters if your purpose is to show off what gears or toons you got. Obviously you're the second type.

[Nirgon]

At least you admit it :)

Time to play real EverQuest, Mr Misquoting Fruitcake. It will make you a better player and appreciate the actual game instead of facerolling Solb with fungi/CoF and epic.

[Tilien]

I mean it, stop having fun! I need a mod!

Jeez dude, chill out. People are still on blue, so what? Lot's of people on Green and Teal, go have fun man. Everything is going to be fine.

[wagorf]

those who are unhappy about blue and bashing it, are insecure nerds who feel the need to show off their gears/toons. they can't do that in blue cuz nobody cares about what they wear

[Lhord99]

Don’t know if you’ve read the green boards, or not, but it sounds like the ToV scene of 3 years ago is in EFP now.

[Nirgon]

Don’t know if you’ve read the green boards, or not, but it sounds like the ToV scene of 3 years ago is in EFP now.

They're gonna get Black Burrow and Mistmoore mobs perma rooted.

I received scrolls from my scribes last night. These people are flailing wildly in the dungeons.

[Zeboim]

I can undersrand the logic of why Greenteal's raid server might drive people away in the future... I just don't think it would be back to Blue.