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|tda| fatal
11-08-2019, 03:03 AM
what the hell does begging even do?

cant train it up

cant tell if it even does anything on a mob.

anyone have logs on this?

does it generate threat?

pls help!

Jimjam
11-08-2019, 03:58 AM
You can use it to aggro things through thin walls or ceilings on critical fails.

On success mob gives you some of their coins (only works on unaggroed mobs). Best results seem to happen on mobs your level or lower. Maybe because skill increases as you go up levels.

Doesn't seem to add much aggro. Can't be used while auto attacking. I can't remember it ever working on non-humanoids (perhaps as they don't tend to carry cash) but it can crit fail.

Shares a timer with pickpocket. Like sense heading the first points raise much easier using your class guild trainer.

|tda| fatal
11-08-2019, 04:10 AM
You can use it to aggro things through thin walls or ceilings on critical fails.

On success mob gives you some of their coins (only works on unaggroed mobs). Best results seem to happen on mobs your level or lower. Maybe because skill increases as you go up levels.

Doesn't seem to add much aggro. Can't be used while auto attacking. I can't remember it ever working on non-humanoids (perhaps as they don't tend to carry cash) but it can crit fail.

Shares a timer with pickpocket. Like sense heading the first points raise much easier using your class guild trainer.

as a war this skill never rises, and cant train it.

only can use while not auto attacking.

however i feel like when i use it that it actually generates aggro.

anyone ever use this as a warrior?

Jimjam
11-08-2019, 05:23 AM
I've used it on several warriors. It is at the bottom of the skills list at the trainer with the trade skills.

If you feel it makes you aggro then keep toggling auto attack and using it.

Maybe run some tests to see the difference it makes.

Benanov
11-08-2019, 11:16 AM
Begging always fails when you have aggro. You cannot skillup from a mob that's aggroed you.

BlackBellamy
11-08-2019, 11:26 AM
Anyone who uses this skill debases themselves. You're one step away from blowing hobos behind the bus terminal.

Would you beg for mercy? Why would you beg for copper?

Cen
11-08-2019, 01:55 PM
You can max begging in 2 hours in OOT or Qeynos Hills boats.

Its still not worth using at 200. :p

Swish
11-19-2019, 07:10 AM
Begging beggars sometimes yields 1cp (the one in Freeport, and the one in Highkeep at least)

aaezil
11-19-2019, 07:58 AM
The dps / threat lost from turnin attack off that much is most likely higher than the threat you get from clicking beg

Not worth

Brut
11-19-2019, 08:31 AM
Can't beg from engaged mobs, so doubt it gives any aggro nor can it give the critical fail mid-combat.

Capped it on blue, it doesn't really work any more frequently at high skills, doesn't give more money, doesn't give you more successful begs than critical fails. It's still cute if you're a FD class to get the beg message out of random animals and NPCs to provide comic relief to nearby elves.

With CoS you can also drop invis, beg, reinvis before server tic to aggro. Got some silver off Spiroc Lord once.

Jimjam
11-19-2019, 08:33 AM
I think I've seen crit resist messages on aggroed mobs. Pretty sure not classic, but is p1999. Not sure if gives +hate.

Won't investigate. Waste of time, even for me!

Brut
11-19-2019, 08:36 AM
I remember vividly skilling my Begging on live on engaged mobs, but this was in that new zone under LOIO. Veksomething.

Soothsayer
11-29-2019, 10:29 PM
Anyone who uses this skill debases themselves. You're one step away from blowing hobos behind the bus terminal.

Would you beg for mercy? Why would you beg for copper?
There is no shame in begging for aggro