ZEM figures

[Solist]

Is there a possibility that ZEM figures have been altered or not entered correctly?

Sol A seems extremely lacking in XP compared to similar experiences on blue in similar spots. Dedicated group killing a cycle of 70% yellow/white/reds of 17-19 mobs per respawn and it's significantly worse xp than doing light blues in highpass orcs/gnolls with slightly lower total experience in group.

Something doesnt feel right is all, unsure if its possible it was broken somehow in new server launch? All of us in group agree it feels about 50% of what it should be.

(note: highhold keep as an example feels about right/perfect, as does befallen, so its not a global thing)

[Telin]

Nothing has been changed from what I can see.

[Dolalin]

You're probably seeing the effect of those Uber classic experience penalties.

[magusfire24]

It isnt a penalty that affects others. The "penalty" is just that that class race combo takes more exp to level, not that they get less exp per mob.

[cubiczar]

It isnt a penalty that affects others. The "penalty" is just that that class race combo takes more exp to level, not that they get less exp per mob.

That would be nice wouldn't it (and be more fair, but this game has never been nice or fair), but that isn't really the case. Group experience is a weird thing that sucks more exp out of a kill for those in the group that have more total experience. In the case of hybrids they just take more exp to level so their total experience at their current level is higher than others of the same level. It's not that they get less exp per kill but that they have required so much more exp to get to the same level as you, so they do indeed suck more exp than someone without a penalty. Just think back to higher levels being in the group, it always made the group get noticeably less exp with a member several levels higher than the rest of the group.

Take a look here for a better explanation How Experience Works (https://wiki.project1999.com/Game_Mechanics#How_Experience_Works)

[Solist]

Nothing has been changed from what I can see.

Thanks for having a look Telin.

It still does not feel right, or high enough. But if it’s set right then it’s right!

[quido]

It isnt a penalty that affects others. The "penalty" is just that that class race combo takes more exp to level, not that they get less exp per mob.

Furthermore, your slice of the experience pie in a group is proportional to your total amount of experience. If you have a Troll Shadowknight in your group that is the same level as you, because it took him more experience to get to that point, he will take a larger amount of experience versus you per kill. The result is that you both gain levels at the same rate, however, your share of the experience pie is much less than it would be if you were grouping with a Halfling Warrior of the same level. Everything else the same, you would level up faster with a non-penalized class than you would with a penalized class.