Easy way to have a fresh red server with out wiping anything

[Tune]

First of all: I am not writing this bc i went hard on red and have tons of characters

the idea kind of just popped in my head

why not just make the old characters locked into velious or other custom zones while the rest of the server progresses through the time line.

u dont really need more servers this way. would be cool to throw in some custom content, maybe something to do for the old toons to do that might impact the new ones. maybe summon some of the older "gladiators" to classic to help a losing side or even up a pvp fight.

i think people really love new servers so im not trying to shy away from that. But give something for the older players like on red and blue that don't want to grind through eq for a 6th time.

[Ragnaros]

shut the FUCK up

[Gustoo]

Tune best thing they could do is combine red with blue into 1 server rot dumpster with all the maxxed out characters. Then they might add custom stuff.

I would rather have 2 seperate server rot dumpsters so that one can keep having some sort of PVP, but maybe just to increase the pop it would be better to have one Vallhala server.

[heartbrand]

Respectfully, this idea doesn’t really solve anything, nor is it even feasible to do this.

How would you code it so that “old characters” can’t leave velious? What would define an old character?

In practice, everyone would just quit their old characters to play the old zones with everyone else, and then when velious hits everyone would just switch back to their old characters thus rendering moot any progression at that stage.

[Bazia]

everyone could just delete their toons and the problem would be solved tomorrow, but ofc you all cant be men about it

[Palemoon]

What they are doing with green/blue is enough. Fresh red, when it runs its course dump it on old red. People can log into old red to bask in their pixels and walk around the museum when they get misty eyed, then log into new red for progression and pvp.

rinse/repeat.

I do agree that any future custom content be limited to the "legacy" red/blue original servers. Hell, they could even expand the project, perhaps with collaboration with the TAKP(eqmac) and usher in Luclin and finally PoP on the legacy red/blue.

[El Prez]

First of all: I am not writing this bc i went hard on red and have tons of characters

oh, ok

[kotton05]

Stop thinking thanks brad bless

[Stasis01]

Classic a year, kunark a year, dump the characters into Red99 and reset.

[Stasis01]

Velious is utterly unplayable unless u want to give up your life for a video game.

[Tune]

Respectfully, this idea doesn’t really solve anything, nor is it even feasible to do this.

How would you code it so that “old characters” can’t leave velious? What would define an old character?

In practice, everyone would just quit their old characters to play the old zones with everyone else, and then when velious hits everyone would just switch back to their old characters thus rendering moot any progression at that stage.

u either keep em in a custom zone or just dont let them enter velious until like 10 sleeper keys enter the world etc

u get the idea

[coolget]

i get the idea

and it's a bad one

[Tobius]

Velious is utterly unplayable unless u want to give up your life for a video game.


What do you mean by this?

[Tassador]

everyone could just delete their toons and the problem would be solved tomorrow, but ofc you all cant be men about it

If only this happened.

[gangsta]

shut the FUCK up

[gangsta]

Classic a year, kunark a year, dump the characters into Red99 and reset.

[Rushmore]

everyone could just delete their toons and the problem would be solved tomorrow, but ofc you all cant be men about it

problem solved.

[gangsta]

problem solved.

we could all start on this new teal server and just turn discord books in. grief any blue players off

[Kerwin 5.0]

this post confirms op is retarded

[Genedin]

Velious is utterly unplayable unless u want to give up your life for a video game.

Yea I agree. I hated velious, that’s when I quit and I think most people did not too far after launch compared to say classic to kunark. couldn’t find much PvP, shit too spread out, raiding is god awful time consuming, RIP.

[Israel Adesanya]

First of all: I am not writing this bc i went hard on red and have tons of characters

the idea kind of just popped in my head

why not just make the old characters locked into velious or other custom zones while the rest of the server progresses through the time line.

u dont really need more servers this way. would be cool to throw in some custom content, maybe something to do for the old toons to do that might impact the new ones. maybe summon some of the older "gladiators" to classic to help a losing side or even up a pvp fight.

i think people really love new servers so im not trying to shy away from that. But give something for the older players like on red and blue that don't want to grind through eq for a 6th time.

https://i.imgur.com/pZxeviY.gif

[fan D]

i get the idea

and it's a bad one

gonna give this a sektor "lol"

[Fame]

everyone could just delete their toons and the problem would be solved tomorrow, but ofc you all cant be men about it

[Jimjam]

Everyone roll teal and hand in book.

Make a red guild for serverwide praz.

[Old_PVP]

Everyone roll teal and hand in book.

Make a red guild for serverwide praz.

Sounds like fun. You have my sword.

[Thrilla]

Got tons n tons of hours invested across several toons on red.. I'd give it all up in a second if they reset the box and we could have 250-300 + players on again with a fresh server.. what good are the items and characters anyway on a box with 20 ppl? worse case, xfer them to blue and call it a day.

[Gustoo]

Got tons n tons of hours invested across several toons on red.. I'd give it all up in a second if they reset the box and we could have 250-300 + players on again with a fresh server.. what good are the items and characters anyway on a box with 20 ppl? worse case, xfer them to blue and call it a day.

QFT.

I'm guaranteed never going to grind to level 60 again too, but I'd rather see a pvp server with vitality than keep my humble pixel hoard in tact on ded red 99.

Not going to pre emptive strike delete gustoo though =/

[Lone Gnome]

even if they launch a new red, it will probably be classic exp not the new exp code / group bonus system like when it launched

90% of population was griefed off the server by orcs in CB or oasis and never saw level 20

its 2019

[White_knight]

even if they launch a new red, it will probably be classic exp not the new exp code / group bonus system like when it launched

90% of population was griefed off the server by orcs in CB or oasis and never saw level 20

its 2019

Yup agreed. Red99 2.0 should have the same xp bonus as before.

[Trainhop]

2,000% xp bonus might work. Seafuries on the other hand would help new red folk gain ground and purchase that first fungi/etc without farming for 4 times the duration on Mt. Rathe.

[Palemoon]

No the last few posts. If you want a ez mode shitbox counterstrike with elves, go back to RoZ.

xp and the rest should be same as Green99.

[nottitanuk]

xp/rules dont matter

no1 wants to play a classic-velious locked server again

bring us something new

[Palemoon]

xp/rules dont matter

no1 wants to play a classic-velious locked server again

bring us something new

Next step is to convince al'kabor project people (legit very classic like here), the EQmac clone, to open a pvp server. That will go to Planes of Power for those tired of trilogy.

I'm personally fine with trilogy. Hell I quit before velious so i'd look forward to that on a new red anyways.

What will be different this time around are the tons of bugs fixed between old red and new red. That and whatever new rules they put in place. Hopefully sullon zek teams as something fresh.

[Tassador]

You all are fat and lazy generally just want to play smash brothers. The grind to 50 with pvp and fighting over eventually obsolete items is prob the most exciting time on EQ. It took me a couple months to get my first char to 50 on red and I still ended up with a couple guises and manastones. So what’s the fucking rush??

Can’t just causally play shit cause your addicts. I just hope if they make a new server stasis fucking stays away guy is a toxic flaming piece of shit that probably better off playing Barbie for Nintendo fuckboy.

[heartbrand]

I second tassador. The pvp skirmishes on the way to 50, with the excitement of every ding, every small upgrade, etc., is the best part of this game. The end game and the dream of “mass pvp” (zone hugging and buff refreshing for six hours) sucks.

[usmcvet]

Eq1 pvp has always been complete trash. Always has, always will get over it move on.

[Raclen]

This is a really bad idea. It requires custom zones and restrictions and borders on portions of the population from a dev group that doesn't like custom content. It would essentially be trying to run two servers on one server. Two separate games where the populations can't interact on the same server. I have never seen such a bad idea and the author of this idea is serious.

[Raclen]

no1 wants to play a classic-velious locked server again

bring us something new

Actually this is what everyone on project 1999 wants. Maybe not locked but some sort of seasons or recycle like Green 99.

[El Prez]

1 year is a good server cycle imo. gotta keep things fresh

[White_knight]

Naw sever has to have accelerated xp.

We're not 15 in our jocks playing in mama and dadas house anymore...well some of are still.

[Trainhop]

3,000% xp?

[Tassador]

Might as well put bonus exp for people like farzo he was 2-12 on a pally from 0-60 2 years into the server, so it is not like he engages in pvp until year 4 anyhow. And this guy talks about time I bet if there is a new server his playtime would be disgusting for a 30+ year old Australian.

[Palemoon]

Naw sever has to have accelerated xp.

We're not 15 in our jocks playing in mama and dadas house anymore...well some of are still.

No way. Why would you want to rush past the actual fun pvp times of xp group vs xp group in rags?


Slow xp also slows down the awful tactic of leveling a dozen alts to max level and camping them all over the world to grief any new people (including deleveling a few of your raid gear alts to make sure the low levels are covered too) or worse, parking them at various raid targets to swarm your opponent with alt toon human waves.

easy xp creates so many server problems downline. A lvl 50 or 60 <insert random class here> should have a lot of worth to a guild. When all 20 of your members has several level 60s it cheapens all the in game characters and the players themselves. Why recruit a new player to the server into your guild when you can just have one of your "core dudes" log on their random alt to buff the raid or whatever.

Just keep it classic. If you want counterstrike with elves and insta max level, go to RoZ.

[Gustoo]

I would sign off on a 25% of classic EXP server to make the progression mega hard.

With bard kite nerfing, folks aren't going to have a bunch of crapper level 60 throw away characters. I mean, they will eventually, but its going to be a big deal.

Rags vs Rags is the best.

If its Rallos rules with item loot than dragon gear has level 60 level requirement. Epics have level 46 level requirement. Velious quest gear has level 46 or higher level requirement.
Deleveled skill caps decrease as you level. On rallos you used to keep your level 50 skills at level 10 so it was totally nutsack when that was discovered. Those rogues...

If its Sullon rules no one will delevel so problem solved.

[White_knight]

Well we can clearly see who plays in their jocks and socks and still lives with momma and dadda.

Nothing will kill a server quicker than:

1. Item loot
2. No XP bonus

So strap on your stained jocks and socks and deal with these facts.

And Tass you played a Wizard (literally a brainless 5 year old can play one of those, don't mix your ego and your ability to press a lure button up).

[Palemoon]

If its Sullon rules no one will delevel so problem solved.


They still will, because if within (was it 4 levels?) of your kill you'd make them lose xp and coins. Out of range kills produced neither.

[Rick Sanchez]

OP is coming to the realization that he spent way to many hours on a 20 year old elf sim that in essence has no tangible value. I hope you had fun at least? /shrug. It will all be poofed soon

[El Prez]

fucking shit, Tune. Snap out of it brother. I have not been able to stop thinking about this thread and what it might be saying about your mental state.

I know this is a game forum and we generally troll the fuck out of one another, but I like to think that after being essential to one another's entertainment for many years, we give at least a little bit of a fuck about other players' well being.

You are in too deep bro. You need to fight whatever rationalizations you are generating which allow you to justify investing yourself into this one thing any further.

Go apply your badassness as an EQ player to other shit.

[Qtip]

Might as well put bonus exp for people like farzo he was 2-12 on a pally from 0-60 2 years into the server, so it is not like he engages in pvp until year 4 anyhow. And this guy talks about time I bet if there is a new server his playtime would be disgusting for a 30+ year old Australian.

He was 2-60+ losses lol.

[White_knight]

He was 2-60+ losses lol.

no I wasnted

and I have a screenshot of tells from your crying to me when I killed your alt telling me to stay where I was so you could log in Qtip and port over to fight me.

dont make me break my old laptop out and see if I can find that screenshot

also you never had the balls to level to 60 and pvp, you played a level 55 enchanter killing people who had 70 mr in leather gear.

[Baler]

http://i.imgur.com/ukBSczM.gif
gif by Swish

[Qtip]

no I wasnted

and I have a screenshot of tells from your crying to me when I killed your alt telling me to stay where I was so you could log in Qtip and port over to fight me.

dont make me break my old laptop out and see if I can find that screenshot

also you never had the balls to level to 60 and pvp, you played a level 55 enchanter killing people who had 70 mr in leather gear.

Enchanter was 59, thats how I could rapture dumb ass. Asking for a 1 vs 1 is crying of course....

2-60 on a velious geared paladin lol

[Gustoo]

They still will, because if within (was it 4 levels?) of your kill you'd make them lose xp and coins. Out of range kills produced neither.

Remove xp loss on pvp death. Coin loss, I accept just so we can kill people at seafuries.

[White_knight]

Enchanter was 59, thats how I could rapture dumb ass. Asking for a 1 vs 1 is crying of course....

2-60 on a velious geared paladin lol

your numbers are way off lol

you spent 97% of your game time in the mid 50s playing a class that could basically tash + mez other players and gate when you hit a bad spot.

you used to send messages crying @ other players when you died in PvP.

I never once saw you in any area that was potentially dangerous, always skirting around the edges and the one time I did catch you not 15m from a zoneline or on your enchanter hunting low level undergearted player I whipped your arse and killed you and you sent me messages crying telling me to wait there so you could log in to a class that was a total mis-match.

you're a bitch

[White_knight]

you're a bitch

More specifically you're my bitch because I've killed you in the mortal kombat arts of EQ and you have never come close to killing me.

Hope to see you on Red99 2.0 to make it 2-0 and beyond.

[Danger]

fucking shit, Tune. Snap out of it brother. I have not been able to stop thinking about this thread and what it might be saying about your mental state.

I know this is a game forum and we generally troll the fuck out of one another, but I like to think that after being essential to one another's entertainment for many years, we give at least a little bit of a fuck about other players' well being.

You are in too deep bro. You need to fight whatever rationalizations you are generating which allow you to justify investing yourself into this one thing any further.

Go apply your badassness as an EQ player to other shit.

lite has become the most reasonable person on the red forums. tune hasn't been the same since he got dirtnapped on drybone during that arena event a few months ago. just let go and let god bro, these pixels are meaningless.

[reebz]

Wow this post is dark. Go outside, Tune.

[kotton05]

tune has to bend the knee to swathe now isnt that funny?

[Qtip]

your numbers are way off lol

you spent 97% of your game time in the mid 50s playing a class that could basically tash + mez other players and gate when you hit a bad spot.

you used to send messages crying @ other players when you died in PvP.

I never once saw you in any area that was potentially dangerous, always skirting around the edges and the one time I did catch you not 15m from a zoneline or on your enchanter hunting low level undergearted player I whipped your arse and killed you and you sent me messages crying telling me to wait there so you could log in to a class that was a total mis-match.

you're a bitch

Because level 4 mez lands in pvp right? Shut your clown ass up.