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Cathulu
10-27-2019, 10:56 PM
First, I regularly raid on official TLP servers. I know that the changes are quite vast and significant, so I come seeking advice.

There are two classes I regularly enjoy playing on the TLP/Modern eq, and those are Necro and Shaman. I have heard people say that Necromancers are essentially useless in raids and will have trouble finding a raid spot due to this and the fact that they are over-played.

I have heard similar about Shaman, that they are really strong, but extremely overplayed and will be rarely able to find a raid spot.

I would strongly prefer playing one of these classes, but would consider another if all of this isn't hyperbole.

What do you guys think?

Bazia
10-27-2019, 11:49 PM
sounds like you already know enough about EQ to answer your own questions

Cathulu
10-27-2019, 11:56 PM
sounds like you already know enough about EQ to answer your own questions

I knew enough to expect this level of stunted social awareness.

Madbad
10-28-2019, 12:17 AM
I knew enough to expect this level of stunted social awareness.

rated one star

Gustoo
10-28-2019, 12:27 AM
Both of those classes are top solo classes along with druid. If that's something you like just play one.

Shamans are generally always needed to blast people with buffs so probably most raid secure while being a class you like. Probably your best bet. In my mind they're the best caster in the game because it's the only caster that gets to be an ogre. If I could be an ogre cleric I would hands down never consider a different class.

Cathulu
10-28-2019, 12:59 AM
Both of those classes are top solo classes along with druid. If that's something you like just play one.

Shamans are generally always needed to blast people with buffs so probably most raid secure while being a class you like. Probably your best bet. In my mind they're the best caster in the game because it's the only caster that gets to be an ogre. If I could be an ogre cleric I would hands down never consider a different class.


I'm with you there but with trolls. I love necros just because I feel like it's the most solid necro class in any game (could just be nostalgia talking).

My only trouble is that it seems like half the server is rolling shaman. Every where I go and every group i get into has one or two with more asking to join. Under normal circumstances I just would have assumed shaman, but an overabundance of shaman is not a problem we had on official servers. Seems like a p99 only issue. Maybe I'm just missing something.

Gustoo
10-28-2019, 01:37 AM
Its just that shamans have to stay near swamp or near halas so they're all in one place.

They aren't that popular. Just make the class you like..really. I'd be rolling a warrior if it wasn't for my prediction that I won't be able to group up as much as a warrior really needs to so I would be brute force melee leveling on blues forever. The hard way.

Cathulu
10-28-2019, 01:39 AM
Its just that shamans have to stay near swamp or near halas so they're all in one place.

They aren't that popular. Just make the class you like..really. I'd be rolling a warrior if it wasn't for my prediction that I won't be able to group up as much as a warrior really needs to so I would be brute force melee leveling on blues forever. The hard way.

That's a pretty solid point. Thanks Gustoo!

Ennewi
10-28-2019, 01:47 AM
My only trouble is that it seems like half the server is rolling shaman. Every where I go and every group i get into has one or two with more asking to join. Under normal circumstances I just would have assumed shaman, but an overabundance of shaman is not a problem we had on official servers. Seems like a p99 only issue. Maybe I'm just missing something.

Kunark: Locket of Escape and Circlet of Shadow are solo Shaman fodder. Also, prenerf fungi stick is the proverbial carrot dangling in front of players. Add in the current situation with DE mask and Manastone...it's hard not to choose Shaman.

If bindpoints are transferred over from green to blue, when the time comes, than having the TD firepots option is another potential perk.

Khorza
10-28-2019, 05:59 AM
This game isn't WoW. There's no such thing as limited raid spots. Guilds will try to recruit the more crucial classes the hardest, but if you can make raids and play competently you can find a guild.

BlackBellamy
10-28-2019, 09:53 AM
The counts aren't skewed because of leveling locations, if you do a who all the most popular classes on P1999 are Druid, Enchanter, Shaman and Cleric. People know the server is going to be super crowded so they're going with the most able to solo or the most group friendly. Every group out there is dying for a tank right now.

Indecisive
10-28-2019, 10:17 AM
Can't speak for Shamans as I've never played one, but Necros don't have any problems finding a spot in a raid. There's no cap like there is on Live or TLP servers, as there's no "raid" window. So anyone that shows up in the guild is able to earn DKP and bid just like anyone else.

Also, you'll find that while Necros are one of the most played classes, not a lot of them participate in raids. You're basically a twitch bitch, and many don't find the role of mana cleric to be very fun, even if it's important. Sort of like our Magician friends who do little more than CoH and mod rod.

Moral of the story, if you want to roll a necro and still be able to participate in endgame, you're fine.

Gustoo
10-28-2019, 11:12 AM
The counts aren't skewed because of leveling locations, if you do a who all the most popular classes on P1999 are Druid, Enchanter, Shaman and Cleric. People know the server is going to be super crowded so they're going with the most able to solo or the most group friendly. Every group out there is dying for a tank right now.

He said it felt like everyone was a shaman.

Not the cases. Equal amounts of people are druids and enchanters and slightly less necros.

All the best solo classes very popular, naturally.

So play what you like.

greatdane
10-28-2019, 02:01 PM
Both classes have underwhelming raid playstyles. Necros mostly feed mana to clerics and shamans mostly buff. People will bring some of both to raids, but they aren't classes that guilds go out of their way to stack.

Jimjam
10-28-2019, 03:24 PM
Your question is unanswerable as there is no raid scene on green yet.

If it is like blue then any class will be welcome to join any raid guild.

Cathulu
10-29-2019, 12:34 AM
Can't speak for Shamans as I've never played one, but Necros don't have any problems finding a spot in a raid. There's no cap like there is on Live or TLP servers, as there's no "raid" window. So anyone that shows up in the guild is able to earn DKP and bid just like anyone else.

Also, you'll find that while Necros are one of the most played classes, not a lot of them participate in raids. You're basically a twitch bitch, and many don't find the role of mana cleric to be very fun, even if it's important. Sort of like our Magician friends who do little more than CoH and mod rod.

Moral of the story, if you want to roll a necro and still be able to participate in endgame, you're fine.

Thank you for this. I didn't think about the fact that there is no limit. On official tlps, it's usually 54 and people do splits with very specific classes.