10% less xp on blue when green launch

[Kanuvan]

Lets give green a chance to really shine, why play green when you can just play on your blue main with 50k plat and geared to the teeth?

[Baler]

exp loss on green at launch will be 2x worse than exp loss on blue.
Then after a certain patch im forgetting exp penalty is reduced by 50%, aka how it is on blue.

No this isnt a troll, it actually makes me depressed.

[El-Hefe]

Nobody gonna level on Blue anymore anyway. Not worth the effort.

[Nirgon]

exp loss on green at launch will be 2x worse than exp loss on blue.
Then after a certain patch im forgetting exp penalty is reduced by 50%, aka how it is on blue.

No this isnt a troll, it actually makes me depressed.

Don't worry, I'll protect you

[Chortles Snort|eS]

https://i.imgur.com/2zMqbob.gif

[Baler]

Don't worry, I'll protect you

https://i.imgur.com/QGv5NS8.jpg
see you in Tox on friday.

[kjs86z]

Nobody gonna level on Blue anymore anyway. Not worth the effort.

wrong

[Endonde]

wrong

Nah I have a feeling it's pretty close to accurate, I'm sure there will be some groups still leveling on Blue but I imagine the leveling community will at least be cut in half, and the leveling scene on Blue is already pretty bad compared to what it was a few years ago.

[Zeboim]

There will be plenty of bard PL on blue at least.

[Kinaki]

Green and blue will be pretty disparate games, between all the "classic" changes and the lack of twinking. I would not automatically make assumptions. Same people though.

[cd288]

Nobody gonna level on Blue anymore anyway. Not worth the effort.

I mean, I probably will go back to leveling my alts once Green hits Velious. At that point, they are pretty much the same server so...

Since we can log into both servers at once, I would imagine there will be a lot of people leveling on Blue at the same time as they level on Green (probably playing more AFK type of classes on Blue though).

[Madbad]

Give the blue server a bonus to alleviate population issues I say

[El-Hefe]

I mean, I probably will go back to leveling my alts once Green hits Velious. At that point, they are pretty much the same server so...

Just gonna ignore the ten years of blue uptime making great gear into vender trash?

Blue is a broken as hell server.

[Psyborg]

Nobody gonna level on Blue anymore anyway. Not worth the effort.

Plenty of life left on Blue duder.

[El-Hefe]

Plenty of life left on Blue duder.

I dunno, for entrenched raiders who can't part with their pixels, maybe. But who is gonna decide to level up a new toon or more importantly start fresh on busted ass Blue when the real game just came out on Green?

The economy stemming from ten years of up time really makes the 1 - 60 game on blue suuuuuuck and I can't be the only one who notices it.

[Psyborg]

I dunno, for entrenched raiders who can't part with their pixels, maybe. But who is gonna decide to level up a new toon or more importantly start fresh on busted ass Blue when the real game just came out on Green?

The economy stemming from ten years of up time really makes the 1 - 60 game on blue suuuuuuck and I can't be the only one who notices it.

People who don't like the inevitability of green characters rolling into blue, or people who have already done enough hard core leveling.

Also, what is your complaint about the 1-60 leveling on blue? Out of curiosity, and not to be a smart ass, have you leveled to 60 on blue yet?

[Crede]

I dunno, for entrenched raiders who can't part with their pixels, maybe. But who is gonna decide to level up a new toon or more importantly start fresh on busted ass Blue when the real game just came out on Green?

The economy stemming from ten years of up time really makes the 1 - 60 game on blue suuuuuuck and I can't be the only one who notices it.

Because leveling twinked chars and forming small groups here on and there on blue is way more fun than struggling with overcrowded zones and shitty weapons/armor on green. It was cool wandering around Norrath and getting 1 orange an hour in a full crushbone group when I was 12 years old in classic. Now I just don't see the point.

Have fun with that, I'll be chilling on blue.

[El-Hefe]

People who don't like the inevitability of green characters rolling into blue, or people who have already done enough hard core leveling.

Also, what is your complaint about the 1-60 leveling on blue? Out of curiosity, and not to be a smart ass, have you leveled to 60 on blue yet?

Here is how starting fresh works on Blue: Make a toon, head to newbie zone, get handed a ton of plat by someone who has hundreds of thousands of plat in the bank gathered over the ten years the server has been active, go to EC and buy a full suit of prime leveling gear that would be insanely good on a real server for a pittance, run to one of the two or three zones that people actually use and get carried by BIS twinks with 80k worth of gear.

Blue isn't a real server when it comes to leveling, it's pretty much the EZ Server with extra steps and that's super boring.

[El-Hefe]

Because leveling twinked chars and forming small groups here on and there on blue is way more fun than struggling with overcrowded zones and shitty weapons/armor on green. It was cool wandering around Norrath and getting 1 orange an hour in a full crushbone group when I was 12 years old in classic. Now I just don't see the point.

Have fun with that, I'll be chilling on blue.

So... No difficulty = Fun.

Difficulty = Not fun?

We're gonna have to agree to disagree here. I don't see the point in playing a game that is so easy.

[feanan]

I mean, plenty of ppl have been on blue since the beginning, have multiple lvl 60's, and see zero reason to do it all again on green just to get rolled back in to blue.

however, if i was brand new to p99, yeah, i'd prob start on green.

[Swish]

I mean, plenty of ppl have been on blue since the beginning, have multiple lvl 60's, and see zero reason to do it all again on green just to get rolled back in to blue.

however, if i was brand new to p99, yeah, i'd prob start on green.

I agree in part, but it sure is fun to see everyone running around badly geared and having to deal with the extra difficulty for a couple of months.

Nobody can say "oh its cool man, I've got an epic cleric parked here to rez" or "gimme a sec I'll log my enchanter for C and hastes" like they do on blue.

Those troll shadow knights will have to suck up that XP loss to begin with, nobody around to take the edge off those deaths :p

[Psyborg]

I agree in part, but it sure is fun to see everyone running around badly geared and having to deal with the extra difficulty for a couple of months.

Nobody can say "oh its cool man, I've got an epic cleric parked here to rez" or "gimme a sec I'll log my enchanter for C and hastes" like they do on blue.

Those troll shadow knights will have to suck up that XP loss to begin with, nobody around to take the edge off those deaths :p

Yeah, I don't think anyone is arguing that there is a lot of fun to be had on green. Someone said blue leveling would be non-existent because they could see no reason to roll new characters on it. We're just responding to that. I wish all the best to the green folks!

[El-Hefe]

I mean, plenty of ppl have been on blue since the beginning, have multiple lvl 60's, and see zero reason to do it all again on green just to get rolled back in to blue.

however, if i was brand new to p99, yeah, i'd prob start on green.

The problem with that logic is presuming that exploiting a ten year beta to steamroll content is equivalent to doing similar things on Green99.

I’m not trying to hate, but the two things are different.

[Psyborg]

The problem with that logic is presuming that exploiting a ten year beta to steamroll content is equivalent to doing similar things on Green99.

I’m not trying to hate, but the two things are different.

You're just creating a straw man now. We know it is different. We aren't equating the two. You said blue leveling would be dead and could see no reasons for a person to level on blue. We're giving you the reasons why some people are going to continue to roll on blue.

[Arcticflava]

Nobody gonna level on Blue anymore anyway. Not worth the effort.

Trolls gonna troll.

[El-Hefe]

I’m honestly not trying to troll, sorry if I’m too snarky. But I honestly think Blue will have very little in the way of new players that’ll be coming around to replace those who move on to other things.

Most of the people dedicated to Blue already a whole roster of leveled toons.

Do you honestly think people who seek out classic EverQuest going forward are going to pick the old beta server over the server that functions on a realistic timeline?

Look, I’m 100% ready to admit I’m wrong in the future, but I really think that’s the way the wind is blowing.

[whitebandit]

I’m honestly not trying to troll, sorry if I’m too snarky. But I honestly think Blue will have very little in the way of new players that’ll be coming around to replace those who move on to other things.

Most of the people dedicated to Blue already a whole roster of leveled toons.

Do you honestly think people who seek out classic EverQuest going forward are going to pick the old beta server over the server that functions on a realistic timeline?

Look, I’m 100% ready to admit I’m wrong in the future, but I really think that’s the way the wind is blowing.

Im kind of a middle of the road guy.. I have 2 60s with raid gear, manastone and elder beads, and I have plenty of alts that are half leveled and geared, and i could definitely keep leveling them and i may.. But its pretty unlikely and it is more likely that i will just end up replacing them with level 60 toons when Green merges (if that happens).

I may still poke my head around blue eventually, and if it so happens i take a few year break and green happens to be mid season(?) i may roll a newb on blue or finish an alt, who knows at that point. Green is absolutely what im interested currently as it is what i believe what everquest should really be, naked people punching lizards.

[Psyborg]

Do you honestly think people who seek out classic EverQuest going forward are going to pick the old beta server over the server that functions on a realistic timeline?

No I don't, but no one is making that claim. What I'm saying is that there are plenty of people currently invested enough in Blue to continue rolling and leveling here. It's never going to be like it was a year ago. Green is the new shiny thing and will attract the bulk of new players, without a doubt.

[El-Hefe]

Green is absolutely what im interested currently as it is what i believe what everquest should really be, naked people punching lizards.

/sniffles

That’s beautiful, ca.... can we bring it in for a hug?

No I don't, but no one is making that claim. What I'm saying is that there are plenty of people currently invested enough in Blue to continue rolling and leveling here. It's never going to be like it was a year ago. Green is the new shiny thing and will attract the bulk of new players, without a doubt.

It kind of sounds like you agree with what I said you just don't like my tone.

Or, you think I was being literal when I said "Nobody" in my original snarky comment.

[Bardp1999]

a lack of new blood flowing into Blue will eventually be problematic, but it's going to take a year for it to really show IMO. By the time Kunark hits Blue will be a shadow of tis current self

[Psyborg]

a lack of new blood flowing into Blue will eventually be problematic, but it's going to take a year for it to really show IMO. By the time Kunark hits Blue will be a shadow of tis current self

Blue is so top heavy and has been around for so long that lack of new blood almost doesn't matter. Stuff will still be camped and raid targets are still going to die within minutes of popping. Lower level zones will be the hardest hit for a while. In 3 years when all this new blood is faced with the prospect of starting over or playing on Blue we'll see Blue become king again.

[cd288]

I mean, plenty of ppl have been on blue since the beginning, have multiple lvl 60's, and see zero reason to do it all again on green just to get rolled back in to blue.

however, if i was brand new to p99, yeah, i'd prob start on green.

For Green, I pretty much plan to only play the classes I’ve never really played before/much at all whether on live back in the day or on P99 (Enchanter, Mage, Pally, Rogue). I don’t intend to recreate any classes I used to play, so I could see someone on Blue who has pretty much played everything extensively not having a desire to play on Green.

[El-Hefe]

Blue is so top heavy and has been around for so long that lack of new blood almost doesn't matter. Stuff will still be camped and raid targets are still going to die within minutes of popping. Lower level zones will be the hardest hit for a while. In 3 years when all this new blood is faced with the prospect of starting over or playing on Blue we'll see Blue become king again.

That generally doesn’t happen when games implement seasonal play. Starting fresh is fun.

[Endorra]

Blue was a beta test, red is a failed ruin.

Wipe them both.

3 greens.

I can't believe there's even an argument about this. It's the entire point of the project.

[saftbudet]

Nobody gonna level on Blue anymore anyway. Not worth the effort.

What? I will continue level on blue :-)

Very unsure if I am to care about green at all tho.

[El-Hefe]

What? I will continue level on blue :-)

Very unsure if I am to care about green at all tho.

:rolleyes:

Thanks for taking my snarky statement literally, it’s cute? Kinda?

Am I learning that those that remain on blue will be largely humorless and unable to tolerate a playful jab?

Yikes.

[Wiff]

It's not quite that simple that less gear and less max characters = more difficulty. This fails to account for people's behavior. Expect to see a whole lot of playing it safe to compensate.

While it's true that twinks with parked 60s will have an easier time handling mobs, they'll also have strong incentive to round up more at a time, chain pull, and push deeper into the dungeon for the higher profile camps. Players without this kind of security will simply lean towards lower-risk gameplay - more mana checks, more med breaks, more room timers, more resistance to pulling the named or branching out from camp.

I've played live. I still remember that trapped feeling when your group can't press on and explore because the cleric has work the next day and insists on just clearing the same hall. I've been in that group that doesn't have a puller because nobody wants to be the guy without the zoneline right on their six so everybody just waits in awkward silence for respawns. I've seen the frequency of trains in zones with a moderate population but no available rez.

You can always count on most people to choose the path of least resistance, perks or not. The difference between leveling on green and blue will simply be a matter of risk threshold and pace.

[Reecon]

So... No difficulty = Fun.

Difficulty = Not fun?

We're gonna have to agree to disagree here. I don't see the point in playing a game that is so easy.

I still get a good laugh when ppl on the forums claim green is gonna be difficult, it is not, knowledge is everything and ppl on this server have had 20 years worth, we know all the strats, we know where all the good gear is, we know the good exp camps/quests, i give it a month at most before we start seeing level 50s with BiS gear, then when the planes hit those zones will be a cake walk as well, playing on these servers is for fun not difficulty, even raids arent difficult specially with the use of broken items that shouldnt be used the way they are aka things like the hoop and soulfire. I'll repeat it again, the knowledge is what made classic EQ hard, the vast majority of ppl didnt know where to farm, how to pull certain camps, how to beat a certain boss, the best exp quests, and where to level.

[Baler]

Blue was a beta test
I can't believe there's even an argument about this. It's the entire point of the project.

Blue is a museum server. Not sure if you missed that.

[Kanuvan]

lol at the blue merge argument, like most people will still be playing on green even 2 years from now, green is for the nostalgic trip to 50 and then 60, and we will do it all over again when purple, and yellow, and pink comes out, seriously 99% of the people are not looking even close to that far ahead

[Swish]

I just hope there's the option to transfer green characters to red server when the server cycle ends <3

[Baler]

I just hope there's the option to transfer green characters to red server when the server cycle ends <3

Oh that would be cool. I had not considered that idea.
The choice to transfer to blue OR red.

[Swish]

If it's not getting wiped, it's a good way to inject population + the pvp opportunities we used to enjoy.

[El-Hefe]

I still get a good laugh when ppl on the forums claim green is gonna be difficult, it is not, knowledge is everything and ppl on this server have had 20 years worth, we know all the strats, we know where all the good gear is, we know the good exp camps/quests, i give it a month at most before we start seeing level 50s with BiS gear, then when the planes hit those zones will be a cake walk as well, playing on these servers is for fun not difficulty, even raids arent difficult specially with the use of broken items that shouldnt be used the way they are aka things like the hoop and soulfire. I'll repeat it again, the knowledge is what made classic EQ hard, the vast majority of ppl didnt know where to farm, how to pull certain camps, how to beat a certain boss, the best exp quests, and where to level.

I mean, I’m certainly not some EverQuest Rain Man, I doubt most people outside of the raiding scene are either.

If you can’t see how scraping together your gear and fighting essentially naked most of your life will be more difficult than getting a bunch of money handed to you and instantly having a full set of stat gear on the second day, I don’t know what to tell you.

[Crede]

I mean, I’m certainly not some EverQuest Rain Man, I doubt most people outside of the raiding scene are either.

If you can’t see how scraping together your gear and fighting essentially naked most of your life will be more difficult than getting a bunch of money handed to you and instantly having a full set of stat gear on the second day, I don’t know what to tell you.

It won’t be difficult, you’re just riding that nostalgia train again. EQ is not a hard game and we know everything there is to know about it. ALS had no problems doing it on blue. Actually going to be easier on green than ALS because you’ll have more people around to group with and a bigger economy to interact with. Plenty of classes that can basically level naked as well.

[El-Hefe]

we know everything

Maybe you do, lol.

I get it guys, you’re all very very good at EQ, don’t find it difficult and will be in BIS gear before day one is over.

Yeesh...

[zodium]

It won’t be difficult, you’re just riding that nostalgia train again. EQ is not a hard game and we know everything there is to know about it. ALS had no problems doing it on blue. Actually going to be easier on green than ALS because you’ll have more people around to group with and a bigger economy to interact with. Plenty of classes that can basically level naked as well.

lotta people in for some rude awakenings about classic everquest and classic emu servers when dreams collide with reality tomorrow

[Psyborg]

lotta people in for some rude awakenings about classic everquest and classic emu servers when dreams collide with reality tomorrow

Yeah, the toughest parts about EQ was always the lack of knowledge and soloability (for many classes). I'd describe EQ as unforgiving rather than difficult. Still, people are going to have a ton of fun on Green and I wish them the best. I'm sure I'll roll something there at some point.

[El-Hefe]

I’ve figured it out you guys!

Blue is being kept up after Green launches as a “Buzzkill Containment Server”.


That way, those of us who enjoy experiences can all have fun together and the Debbie downer crowd can continue plugging away at their ten years of horded pixels.

It’s really a genius idea.

[Psyborg]

I’ve figured it out you guys!

Blue is being kept up after Green launches as a “Buzzkill Containment Server”.


That way, those of us who enjoy experiences can all have fun together and the Debbie downer crowd can continue plugging away at their ten years of horded pixels.

It’s really a genius idea.

You're a chill dude on stream but I gotta say you're kind of a dick on the forums. Really disappointing and has turned me off from tuning in again. Not sure why you have such a hard on for shitting on people who like blue server.

[El-Hefe]

Sorry man, I’m a dick on the stream too, if that makes a difference.

I thought it was funny.

El Hefe: Losing sensitive viewers, one forum post at a time.

[Frug]

You're a chill dude on stream but I gotta say you're kind of a dick on the forums. Really disappointing and has turned me off from tuning in again. Not sure why you have such a hard on for shitting on people who like blue server.

Right? He made a statement, it was shown to be non-true, then he backpedals and insults.

Wait, is he really El-Presidente?

[El-Hefe]

Right? He made a statement, it was shown to be non-true, then he backpedals and insults.

Wait, is he really El-Presidente?

I am.

[Barantor]

It won’t be difficult, you’re just riding that nostalgia train again.

I mean.... wasn't that what it was when Blue launched too?

[Psyborg]

I mean.... wasn't that what it was when Blue launched too?

I don't think his argument is that it won't be fun, just that it won't be as challenging as some believe. Green is going to be a blast. It's a great time to be an EQ player.

[Barantor]

I don't think his argument is that it won't be fun, just that it won't be as challenging as some believe. Green is going to be a blast. It's a great time to be an EQ player.

It probably will be for folks that haven't been playing or are coming back after a long time. Super difficult? Probably not.

More difficult than logging in and having someone hand you a bunch of cash? Absolutely.

[zodium]

I don't think his argument is that it won't be fun, just that it won't be as challenging as some believe. Green is going to be a blast. It's a great time to be an EQ player.

this guy, i like him, he gets it

[Polixa]

I predict a lot of people who play green will return to blue as soon as the legacy items are switched off.

Blue will have a higher pop count than green once that time has passed.

[Fammaden]

The only thing harder about EQ than modern games is leveling, and getting gear, and raiding.

[El-Hefe]

I predict a lot of people who play green will return to blue as soon as the legacy items are switched off.

Blue will have a higher pop count than green once that time has passed.

I feel like this opinion confuses the reason most people are switching or starting on Green. Green launch is a once in a lifetime experience, pixel lust probably only factors into the equation a small amount.

[Polixa]

I feel like this opinion confuses the reason most people are switching or starting on Green. Green launch is a once in a lifetime experience, pixel lust probably only factors into the equation a small amount.

I disagree. Once legacy items are gone, green will be the same as blue, except less content. Many will prefer to go back to blue.

[Arcticflava]

I mean, I’m certainly not some EverQuest Rain Man, I doubt most people outside of the raiding scene are either.

If you can’t see how scraping together your gear and fighting essentially naked most of your life will be more difficult than getting a bunch of money handed to you and instantly having a full set of stat gear on the second day, I don’t know what to tell you.

You sure do love your extreme, exaggerated, factually incorrect buzzword comments.

Trolls gonna troll.

[El-Hefe]

I disagree. Once legacy items are gone, green will be the same as blue, except less content. Many will prefer to go back to blue.

Green will be nothing like blue. Ten years of up time has made Blue practically unrecognizable as classic EQ.

You sure do love your extreme, exaggerated, factually incorrect buzzword comments.

Trolls gonna troll.

I really don’t see how what I said was factually incorrect. If you play Blue long enough, someone will hand you several hundred plat and then you’ll never have to worry about loot or gear again until you near max level. Completely changing how the low and mid game plays out.

I get that we disagree, but I’m not trolling I’m just stating an opinion.

[Polixa]

[QUOTE=El-Hefe;2997905]Green will be nothing like blue. Ten years of up time has made Blue practically unrecognizable as classic EQ.

Was that an argument or just a statement? If the former, it does nothing toward persuading me that people won't prefer blue to green, post legacy drops.

[El-Hefe]

Was that an argument or just a statement? If the former, it does nothing toward persuading me that people won't prefer blue to green, post legacy drops.

You said Green will be like Blue with less content. I said it won't be, for rather obvious reasons. I don't think many will follow your line of reasoning, either.

[kjs86z]

I'm staying on Blue. Zero interest / intent to even try Green.

I cannot possibly be alone...but if I am, I have a stable of characters to solo on.

To each their own.

[Arcticflava]

Green will be nothing like blue. Ten years of up time has made Blue practically unrecognizable as classic EQ.



I really don’t see how what I said was factually incorrect. If you play Blue long enough, someone will hand you several hundred plat and then you’ll never have to worry about loot or gear again until you near max level. Completely changing how the low and mid game plays out.

I get that we disagree, but I’m not trolling I’m just stating an opinion.

I don't doubt you can't see it, but you need to educate yourself on how to state an opinion, rather then word it as blanket generalized (and factually incorrect) statements of fact. If you can't control your own vocabulary, how are people supposed to take you seriously... which clearly they don't.

[Indicas]

a lack of new blood flowing into Blue will eventually be problematic, but it's going to take a year for it to really show IMO. By the time Kunark hits Blue will be a shadow of tis current self
its already hit, i came back to eq last week to pop in after a year break and i didn't know about green at the time and, it was saturday afternoon and there was only 4 groups combined between sebilis and karnor, thats bad

[Psyborg]

its already hit, i came back to eq last week to pop in after a year break and i didn't know about green at the time and, it was saturday afternoon and there was only 4 groups combined between sebilis and karnor, thats bad

That really isn’t lack of new blood as much as that is the current player base getting into Classic WoW and getting ready for Green. I suspect the current population on Blue will recover a bit in 3-6 months. Time will certainly tell.

[Danth]

That really isn’t lack of new blood as much as that is the current player base getting into Classic WoW and getting ready for Green. I suspect the current population on Blue will recover a bit in 3-6 months. Time will certainly tell.

The new blood part was the large wave of players** who appeared seemingly out of nowhere last winter and swelled server populations to record highs lasting into spring. Most of those folks had apparently petered out and disappeared by mid summer, as server populations were back to long-term average by the time WoW-Classic and Green announcement combined to hit it with something of a 1-2 punch.

**Where did all those folks, practically all at once, come from, anyway? That fairly sudden spike in population on a 9-year-old server was very unusual, and most of them were newbies to it, not returning veterans. Did P99 get come sort of major advertising face-time someplace last fall/winter?

Danth

[Psyborg]

The new blood part was the large wave of players** who appeared seemingly out of nowhere last winter and swelled server populations to record highs lasting into spring. Most of those folks had apparently petered out and disappeared by mid summer, as server populations were back to long-term average by the time WoW-Classic and Green announcement combined to hit it with something of a 1-2 punch.

**Where did all those folks, practically all at once, come from, anyway? That fairly sudden spike in population on a 9-year-old server was very unusual, and most of them were newbies to it, not returning veterans. Did P99 get come sort of major advertising face-time someplace last fall/winter?

Danth

I think it can largely be attributed to Pantheon hype. I was part of that wave. I had heard of p99 some time back but didn’t actually get involved until August 2018 as news of Pantheon continued to grow. Knowing that it would be years before Pantheon would even have a chance to come out I decided to revisit an old friend and I know many others did as well. I stayed until WoW Classic came out and stuck with that as my daily game until hitting max level where I can now just enjoy my scheduled raids. I now have some more time to allocate back to p99.

[Bazia]

pantheon kickstarter perks to be delivered january 2017 btw

[Smashed]

**Where did all those folks, practically all at once, come from, anyway? That fairly sudden spike in population on a 9-year-old server was very unusual, and most of them were newbies to it, not returning veterans. Did P99 get come sort of major advertising face-time someplace last fall/winter?

Danth

I was part of that wave. I’m fairly certain it was generated by pantheon news. Then a lot of streamers started playing too. The streamers are what actually looped me back into playing this server (I had first played in 09).

[Treehorn]

wrong

How often do you continue playing the beta of a game, once the full live version officially launches?

[El-Hefe]

I don't doubt you can't see it, but you need to educate yourself on how to state an opinion, rather then word it as blanket generalized (and factually incorrect) statements of fact. If you can't control your own vocabulary, how are people supposed to take you seriously... which clearly they don't.

Please needlessly passive aggressive guy, educate me.

What did I say in my earlier statement that was "factually incorrect"?

[Arcticflava]

Please needlessly passive aggressive guy, educate me.

What did I say in my earlier statement that was "factually incorrect"?

Did a troll catch hurt feelings? That is adorable!

Reread your post history, if you seriously cannot see the glaring errors in your language, you need to repeat the entire formal education most children receive, which is more time then I care to devote to an internet troll. :rolleyes:

[El-Hefe]

Did a troll catch hurt feelings? That is adorable!

Reread your post history, if you seriously cannot see the glaring errors in your language, you need to repeat the entire formal education most children receive, which is more time then I care to devote to an internet troll. :rolleyes:

Dude, seriously? How can you call me out, and not clarify what it is exactly you’re taking issue with?

I’m trying to have a spirited debate, and I honestly want to know which facts I got wrong. I’m also 100% willing to admit when I’m wrong about something.

Come man, be cool. :cool:

[Arcticflava]

Dude, seriously? How can you call me out, and not clarify what it is exactly you’re taking issue with?

I’m trying to have a spirited debate, and I honestly want to know which facts I got wrong. I’m also 100% willing to admit when I’m wrong about something.

Come man, be cool. :cool:

Sure, I will play ball. There are so many in the thread to pick from, but let's just start with an easy one with your very first post:

Nobody gonna level on Blue anymore anyway. Not worth the effort.

Can you spot the factually incorrect statement above?

[El-Hefe]

Sure, I will play ball. There are so many in the thread to pick from, but let's just start with an easy one with your very first post:



Can you spot the factually incorrect statement above?

So, you’re mad at me because you think that statement was intended to be taken literally?
If I say “Nobody uses floppy disks.” or “Nobody plays Call of Duty on PC.” That doesn’t mean I think literally not one person makes use of Floppy Disks or that the player count of Call of Duty literally sits at zero 24/7.

[Arcticflava]

So, you’re mad at me because you think that statement was intended to be taken literally?
If I say “Nobody uses floppy disks.” or “Nobody plays Call of Duty on PC.” That doesn’t mean I think literally not one person makes use of Floppy Disks or that the player count of Call of Duty literally sits at zero 24/7.

Which, if you read my previous comments, is why noone takes you seriously. You have less control over your own language then a child.

This was just an easy example, it only grew sadder as the thread continued.

[El-Hefe]

Which, if you read my previous comments, is why noone takes you seriously. You have less control over your own language then a child.

This was just an easy example, it only grew sadder as the thread continued.

Can we stay on topic instead of taking needless aggressive shots at my intelligence because I used common expressions?

Like seriously, I actually want to hear what I’m wrong about. So far it seems like you have no issue with what I said, you just don’t like my tone. That’s petty, you’re better than that.

[Arcticflava]

Can we stay on topic instead of taking needless aggressive shots at my intelligence because I used common expressions?

Like seriously, I actually want to hear what I’m wrong about. So far it seems like you have no issue with what I said, you just don’t like my tone. That’s petty, you’re better than that.

That is kinda the point, I was pretty clear in all my comments.

You continue to derail with your exaggerated, overdramatic, and factually incorrect posts. Read all of your troll posts, reread the replies people provided. There is a very clear and distinct pattern, and it is your poor language and logic. You have even partially admitted to your trolling in some of them. If you actually care to participate in "debate", it requires even basic and minimal thought and factual on-topic replies, so... do better?

[El-Hefe]

factually incorrect

You keep using that phrase...

So far all you’ve done is insulted my intelligence because I phrased something in a way that you didn’t like. That’s pretty weak man. Learn to handle a playful jab, people will like you better.

[El-Hefe]

Back on topic, this whole idea is dumb.

[Arcticflava]

You keep using that phrase...

So far all you’ve done is insulted my intelligence because I phrased something in a way that you didn’t like. That’s pretty weak man. Learn to handle a playful jab, people will like you better.

If that is your only takeaway at this point, we can add reading comprehension to your list of failures.

[El-Hefe]

If that is your only takeaway at this point, we can add reading comprehension to your list of failures.

Awww come on man, don’t be like that. Be cool.:cool:

I’m still down to hug it out.