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Jibartik
10-21-2019, 08:29 PM
What is the viability of a Necro camping the tranix crown solo during the Kunark era? This camp is very fun in every aspect from its value to its group competition to its poopsockers.

I know a shaman can handle it a-ok if they have torp and an epic, and an enchanter can do it at like 57, but what other classes can solo King Tranix pre-velious? Any?

I was planning on playing a Necro and realize that I really like this zone and wonder how it fairs in this situation. /shrug

Thanks!

Baler
10-21-2019, 09:35 PM
imo the only difference is slow and malo

They're able to be rooted but they have high MR..

I've seen many many many many many many many... druids solo tranix.
It may be better to ask about how druids do it.

I have no memorable experience of a necro soloing tranix.
I believe it's possible just odds against MR

coming from a shm main.

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dont fuck with fire giants. They're a waste of time. Period.

Jibartik
10-21-2019, 10:07 PM
This is my fave camp in the game! I love them. Sitting on the throne, king of the castle.

Doing rage fires. Some efreeti's

It's a blast!

How do you root rot if it summons?

Asking druid is great idea, how u do it druids! (I know this is caster but hopefully you're hopping about)

Kornaki
10-21-2019, 11:21 PM
https://www.project1999.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-218464.html

This thread literally mentions how to kill tranix as a druid.

Bardp1999
10-22-2019, 03:27 AM
https://www.project1999.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-218464.html

This thread literally mentions how to kill tranix as a druid.

Link is really not helpful since its talking about puppet strings. A charmed sonic bat? Seems very doubtful and dangerous.

I dont see how a necro could do trannix in classic but I also have never been big on solo challenges. W/O slow I dont see how you could kill.

A necro and a monk might be an interesting duo for him. Or necro and sham

Jibartik
10-22-2019, 11:56 AM
Link is really not helpful since its talking about puppet strings. A charmed sonic bat? Seems very doubtful and dangerous.

I dont see how a necro could do trannix in classic but I also have never been big on solo challenges. W/O slow I dont see how you could kill.

A necro and a monk might be an interesting duo for him. Or necro and sham

can you send pet in to get hit every summon tick I wonder? Is that a viable strategy or does that just not work at all.

I imagine a summon tick is every 6 seconds so thats like 1 second of being hit every 5 seconds for a pet. I mean its obviously stupid but I wonder if it is doable?

commongood
10-22-2019, 01:15 PM
Can he be feared and snared? Wiki doesn’t indicate the contrary. If so it should not be very difficult as a necro. Granted you might have some false starts with a lot of resists.

If he can’t be fear kited - and if the wiki is correct in HPs and max melee hits - then I’d say no dice as a necro. A decently geared (Velious era) necro can solo A4 mobs (sans TwentyTwo). Those are, I believe, level 55 but hit for less than Tranix (155 I think is the max hit whereas Tranix hits for 205 according to Wiki). But those aren’t easy. They are just about doable and requires you and your pet taking turns tanking. I’m not sure on their hp but wouldn’t be more than Tranix I don’t think. I just don’t see it being possible on a mob hitting significantly harder.

Jibartik
10-22-2019, 01:16 PM
There is a lot of room in there, sans other giants, that need to be sans'd for a solo shaman too anyway. Hmm Does fear kiting work for necro to do tranix, great question!

Jimjam
10-22-2019, 01:40 PM
Isn't fear a stun variant? That should mean no, but who knows... Not I!

Jibartik
10-22-2019, 01:40 PM
Thats what I would think, I dont recall ever seeing an SK fearing any giants so I figure its not doable?

commongood
10-22-2019, 04:05 PM
I honestly don’t know how exactly it works. Seems that mostly if a mob is high enough to summon then it is unfearable. But there are exceptions. Some summoning mobs inside Kael Arena I have fear kited myself. And Myga, lvl 52 dragon in WW, can be fear kited and thereby solod by a necro /shrug

Jibartik
10-22-2019, 04:14 PM
Yeah, I think giants just are unstunnable, unfearable, uncharmable, bellly casters, not because they thought that would make them seem more powerful, but because I bet for a short while guilds were just mowing through them. Idk if they were always this way, but it seems like a post launch type solution to me, like why not just balance them to be harder? Because you already released the game and people are exploiting them now, thats why! haha Just a guess though.

commongood
10-23-2019, 04:18 AM
Yeah, I think giants just are unstunnable, unfearable, uncharmable, bellly casters, not because they thought that would make them seem more powerful, but because I bet for a short while guilds were just mowing through them. Idk if they were always this way, but it seems like a post launch type solution to me, like why not just balance them to be harder? Because you already released the game and people are exploiting them now, thats why! haha Just a guess though.

Maybe. In kael some of the level 51+ giants that summon can be feared and others cant. It was a while back I was there on my necro. I know 100% I got summoned by a giant once fear wore off and I was like "huh?". But I can't remember which one it was.

In terms of Tranix I suppose myself or some other necro (or really anyone with a fear spell) could just go test it out ;)

Wallicker
10-23-2019, 07:51 AM
Yea this is a misconception, fire giant are 100% fearable and charmable, BUT they are belly casters so gotta be under them to land either.

Jibartik
10-23-2019, 10:50 AM
O damn cool this will be my green quest yay thanks guys!

Kruel
11-03-2019, 08:05 AM
I believe they are belly casters (if I remember correctly). Soloing doesn't work because some summon.

Wallicker
11-03-2019, 08:13 AM
Fire giants are also 100% immune to fire aka can’t be dispelled by naggy or ragefire when charmed. Not really pertinent til Kunark but then they are great pets. The immune to fear spell from a mage using puppet strings is OP

Teppler
11-04-2019, 09:30 AM
Summon/belly casting/no undeads around.

Answer would be no but I never did that camp.