[Green] Dark Elf or Human Necromancer?

[Insaiyan]

After trying out a lot of classes during green beta and from my small experience on blue, I've decided necromancer is what I'd like to play for the green launch.

But I have a problem. I can't decide between a DE or a Human.

Love the DE city and the Dark Elves, but I absolutely hate their starting zone and the freeport area in general. Idk why, I just do. Which sucks because that's the hotspot and the hub.

On the flip side, I really like Qeynos and Blackburrow, but I have no clue about all the hidden tunnels and aqueducts and get lost as hell even trying to find the necromancer guild trainer.

Sooo.. could someone help me out here with maybe some kind of pros and cons? Any special items one gets that the others don't? I have no clue about this guise everyone talks about, looked it up, and looks like you can turn into a Dark Elf. Could I be a human necromancer that turns into a Dark Elf so I have a little more cities to go to and get to enjoy my [so far] favorite place in the game?

[ketu]

After trying out a lot of classes during green beta and from my small experience on blue, I've decided necromancer is what I'd like to play for the green launch.

But I have a problem. I can't decide between a DE or a Human.

Love the DE city and the Dark Elves, but I absolutely hate their starting zone and the freeport area in general. Idk why, I just do. Which sucks because that's the hotspot and the hub.

On the flip side, I really like Qeynos and Blackburrow, but I have no clue about all the hidden tunnels and aqueducts and get lost as hell even trying to find the necromancer guild trainer.

Sooo.. could someone help me out here with maybe some kind of pros and cons? Any special items one gets that the others don't? I have no clue about this guise everyone talks about, looked it up, and looks like you can turn into a Dark Elf. Could I be a human necromancer that turns into a Dark Elf so I have a little more cities to go to and get to enjoy my [so far] favorite place in the game?
Sesserdrix's All in One Necromancer Strategy Guide is tough to beat:
http://wiki.project1999.com/Sesserdrix%27s_All_in_One_Necromancer_Strategy_Gui de

[thejester11]

Human:
Pros: Mustache
(Your Opinion)Starting area
Cons: Can't see more than 10 feet at night with a light source. This includes dangerous mobs walking towards you, the mob you are root-rotting, the mob your pet is fighting, etc..
Lowest starting intelligence before Iksars are released. This is your primary stat.

Dark Elf:
Pros: Can see everything at night
(My Opinion)Starting area
Can just run to Karanas/Qeynos and should be able to vendor/train at the same spot as the humans. Would need confirmation though.
Only Necro race that has the Hide ability. Supposedly you can use it with Feign Death similar to Circlet of Shadows to clear the memory of mobs.
2nd highest starting intelligence. 24 points higher than Human!
Cons: Not an Erudite

[aspomwell]

I played a DE necro to 65 in live and I'm recreating that in blue now (currently 11). I created a human necro on green just to see how blind they really are.

Getting to the trainer sucked balls if you go through the maze of the aqueducts. Just zone in from the arena entrance and it's right down the hall...

[Ravager]

Dark Elves get cultural chain mail eventually, so the fashion quest of a caster in chain is pretty cool. Dark elves get to be a little less discriminatory about what they kill than humans faction-wise too, so there are a few more solo options available.

[Aaramis]

Sounds like you love Dark Elves, but you're not a huge fan of the Freeport area, in which case I totally understand. Nektulos sucks as a starting area, but you can quickly transition out of there. After level 5 or so, you only need to come back for spells - that's it.

[Baler]

If the choice is between human and dark elf.
dark elf

[Ravager]

North Ro is the best 1-5 zone imo. Underpopulated, good loot off skels easy access to everything you need.

[Insaiyan]

Thank you for the replies. Helped me think it out a little more. I did not consider the night blindness. Didn't do my research and ASSUMED Necros would get something to counter that. Looks like that's the deal breaker for me, Dark Elf it is. I love the city! Thx again

[Crede]

Thank you for the replies. Helped me think it out a little more. I did not consider the night blindness. Didn't do my research and ASSUMED Necros would get something to counter that. Looks like that's the deal breaker for me, Dark Elf it is. I love the city! Thx again

Necros can cast infravision at lvl 8 and Ultravision at lvl 24. So I wouldn’t make your decision based on night vision alone. DE way more common. Tbh I think humans are cooler and I like rolling rarer combos. Eyepatch too 4tw.

[Insaiyan]

Necros can cast infravision at lvl 8 and Ultravision at lvl 24. So I wouldn’t make your decision based on night vision alone. DE way more common. Tbh I think humans are cooler and I like rolling rarer combos. Eyepatch too 4tw.


oh no....

[Baler]

Let me just put the final nail in this coffin...

go Dark Elf
https://wiki.project1999.com/Reaper_of_the_Dead

[JK_Lollings]

Gnome is the superior Necro race hands down

[Insaiyan]

I'm enjoying my DE Necro thus far. Reached level 5 today, not rushing, casually camping some decaying skeletons and treesnake spawns. I've got 2pp to my name and no clue where to go.

[aspomwell]

Necros can cast infravision at lvl 8 and Ultravision at lvl 24. So I wouldn’t make your decision based on night vision alone. DE way more common. Tbh I think humans are cooler and I like rolling rarer combos. Eyepatch too 4tw.

We also get Coldlight at level 1.

Not sure if we always got it, I don't remember it on my oldschool necro but I got it this time... Summons a lightstone.

[Morningbreath]

Nektulos is actually one of the better newbie zones for getting up to level 8. The crossroads down past the newbie log will keep you pretty busy with spawns of snakes, bears and skeletons. Then you can move into Lavastorm and pick off drakes near the zone line or rock Najee’s entrance.

[Deathrydar]

For Shadow Knight, I would do anything but a Dark Elf. They need too much attention to wear plate armor.

For Necromancer, it is Dark Elf!

[jolanar]

Humans because if you are making a freakin necromancer and not worshiping the god of death and decay you are doing it wrong.

[Deathrydar]

Humans because if you are making a freakin necromancer and not worshiping the god of death and decay you are doing it wrong.

Bertoxxulous is a joke compared to the one true god of orderly hate, Innoruuk.

[Jibartik]

Hey level 10-11 is really fun to go to lava for a DE necro btw! Also if you hunt around Najina you can get that cool warbone spearman to spawn, and Najina is a great spot to be next to/in through your teens.

[Jibartik]

Bertoxxulous is a joke compared to the one true god of orderly hate, Innoruuk.

Rip cultboy Dijin.

[Insaiyan]

Would a DE Necro be KoS in the Qeynos Aqueduct parts where Necro's can learn their spells? Or can they travel down there safely to buy and such

[Tecmos Deception]

Would a DE Necro be KoS in the Qeynos Aqueduct parts where Necro's can learn their spells? Or can they travel down there safely to buy and such

I don't think you'll be KOS. Apprehensive probably, maybe dubious. THere's some lowbie priest NPCs around the qeynos area you can kill to raise bloodsabre faction if needed.

[Tortok]

On the topic, I made a human nec.
Anybody know if Bertox human necros can use Neriak for spells before skele illu or are they kos to The Dead? Or dubiously and can't buy spells?

[Arakash]

On the topic, I made a human nec.
Anybody know if Bertox human necros can use Neriak for spells before skele illu or are they kos to The Dead? Or dubiously and can't buy spells?

Human necro of bertoxx is KoS to those goblins or imps or whatever they are that guard the necro/sk guild in Neriak. But level 1 invis vs undead spell will get you past them. Human necro is also KoS in the caster guild in Neriak too. You'll need to avoid that area or wait till you have level 12 gather shadows. Other than that, I'm pretty sure you are good in the rest of Neriak. As far as buying spells, I've played both an Erudite and a Human necro and I can't remember which one of them couldn't buy spells in Neriak but I think it was the Erudite. I just rolled a level 1 DE necro and bought spells etc. and found a quiet spot in Neriak to switch them over.

[Tecmos Deception]

Those are gargoyle models, aren't they? Are you sure IVU gets past them?

[Arakash]

Those are gargoyle models, aren't they? Are you sure IVU gets past them?

That's right, they are gargoyles. I haven't been to Neriak as a human bertoxx necro during the classic era yet. So, I'm not sure if something is different during classic vs Kunark era regarding invis vs undead. But yes, I know for sure gather shadows doesn't work for the gargoyles and IvU did. As a side note, I tend to stay in the west of Antonica until I have bind affinity due to the random mobs that kill human necros.

[Bigby]

That's right, they are gargoyles. I haven't been to Neriak as a human bertoxx necro during the classic era yet. So, I'm not sure if something is different during classic vs Kunark era regarding invis vs undead. But yes, I know for sure gather shadows doesn't work for the gargoyles and IvU did. As a side note, I tend to stay in the west of Antonica until I have bind affinity due to the random mobs that kill human necros.

They’re ghouls, not gargoyles - just FYI.

[Tecmos Deception]

Ahh.

Yeah. I haven't been to the necro guild in neriak since like, classic era on blue. Lol.