This UI is killing me.....

[Ivory]

Please someone tell me that we will have more options for UI on green....this velious UI is killing me :|

Every time the loot window (or trade window / merchant window) opens....it pushes itself to the far left of the screen.

All the see through windows and cold black UI is so...bleh.

After so many years, finally having green come....and then playing it with this UI is going to sap away a lot of desire to play....

[Swish]

https://i.imgur.com/GyaUGaT.gif

Also I remember people moaning when Luclin models were no longer useable.

[Ivory]

Also I remember people moaning when Luclin models were no longer useable.

This UI isn't classic!!!!! It's anti-classic.

Give me some meaty classic UIs! Black transparent windows weren't added till WAYYYYY later (late velious? Luclin? Pop?).

Even the class inventory window with the class icons is gone now..... :*******(

I know we can't have REAL classic UI....but at least the one they had been running with the last many years was pretty good.

https://imgur.com/OTTMnRO.jpg

[Swish]

They've moved well toward what a classic UI is meant to be with only 6 hot keys and no numerical info without pressing "I".

Why not set the Velious UI up in line with how the classic UI was? You can play in 800x600 windowed mode by changing your eqclient.ini file. There's nothing stopping you, except you <3

[Baler]

@op
Q18: Where can I deposit my tears?
A: As always, your tears are important to us; for without you we couldn't possibly run things around here.

[aaezil]

This UI isn't classic!!!!! It's anti-classic.

Give me some meaty classic UIs! Black transparent windows weren't added till WAYYYYY later (late velious? Luclin? Pop?).

Even the class inventory window with the class icons is gone now..... :*******(

I know we can't have REAL classic UI....but at least the one they had been running with the last many years was pretty good.

https://imgur.com/OTTMnRO.jpg

The black transparent boxes was classic velious ui love it or hate it

[Jimjam]

This UI isn't classic!!!!! It's anti-classic.

Give me some meaty classic UIs! Black transparent windows weren't added till WAYYYYY later (late velious? Luclin? Pop?).

Even the class inventory window with the class icons is gone now..... :*******(

I know we can't have REAL classic UI....but at least the one they had been running with the last many years was pretty good.

https://imgur.com/OTTMnRO.jpg

PRESS F10

[Deathrydar]

<3 the UI! It's a shame some windows (like the casting timer window) seem so out of place, but that bank window is pure gold!

[Wenai]

<3 the UI! It's a shame some windows (like the casting timer window) seem so out of place, but that bank window is pure gold!

We had screenshots from velious era showing an awoken Kerafym where someone was casting gate to get away, and it had the marble casting timer window. So it was not done out of personal preference. Rather from era screenshot.

[Deathrydar]

We had screenshots from velious era showing an awoken Kerafym where someone was casting gate to get away, and it had the marble casting timer window. So it was not done out of personal preference. Rather from era screenshot.

It still rocks! It just looks odd over my transparent target and health and group windows. :)

[stars2heaven]

The transparent UI gives me a headache. But the ui that is loaded when you /load default isn't that bad at all. It's functionally the same but not transparent. I have no problem with it at all.

[El-Hefe]

It’s crazy to me how many people complain about this UI but were using some heinous looking UI on Blue like Vurt or Duxa.

[zodium]

It’s crazy to me how many people complain about this UI but were using some heinous looking UI on Blue like Vurt or Duxa.

people constantly complaining about badly designed features until they are changed is mayhap most classic thing of all

[Jibartik]

One day the loot window and bags will all be marble... Merchant, quite a few windows hopefully will all eventually be marble, so most of the transparent windows will be reduced. If that helps.

[loramin]

This UI isn't classic!!!!! It's anti-classic.

This seems to be a common misconception. I had it too, but I started in Velious so I have an excuse (when I played F10 did alternate between UI mode and no-UI mode, just like it does today on Blue). All y'all who actually played in classic, what's your excuse? ;)

Seriously though, in classic apparently if you pressed F10 you actually saw something fairly close to the current Green UI. It's just that (I guess) most people didn't try pressing F10 in classic.

[Jibartik]

I used to play in fullscreen mode while my best friend and partner in norrath used fullscreen and I used to call him old man all the time. We were like 12 lol

"old man!" *toasts 14th mountain due together*

[El-Hefe]

Jibartik, what’s the chances of seeing a marble and parchment chat window?

[kylok]

?

Here is a screenshot with a modified date of 7/20/1999.

This UI functionality was available day 1 of release.

https://i.imgur.com/NoD2zX5.png
:

Shit's classic

[Jibartik]

Jibartik, what’s the chances of seeing a marble and parchment chat window?

That one is probubly going to not show its face around these parts for a long long time. *ben kenobi voice*

The only place you would see that is during fullscreen mode.

I wish they made a floating inspect item window with it for the old days. (inspecting an item would flop your UI to fulls screen mode)

Funfact: our inspect window is custom as it is now, so perhaps the community will one day get to vote on keeping the custom transparent inspect item window, or swapping to a custom marble inspect item window with parchment on it like our spellbook window... :o

[El-Hefe]

That one is probubly going to not show its face around these parts for a long long time. *ben kenobi voice*

/em sniffling, followed by the loud heaving sobs of a full grown man.

[Jibartik]

I know the feel, well keep your eyes peeled for a "what should we do with the UI next" thread in the future after green launch hehe

[zaneosak]

Please someone tell me that we will have more options for UI on green....this velious UI is killing me :|

Every time the loot window (or trade window / merchant window) opens....it pushes itself to the far left of the screen.

All the see through windows and cold black UI is so...bleh.

After so many years, finally having green come....and then playing it with this UI is going to sap away a lot of desire to play....

You can move your trade/loot windows and they will stick to wherever you move them last.

[Indecisive]

It’s crazy to me how many people complain about this UI but were using some heinous looking UI on Blue like Vurt or Duxa.

Duxa looks great; It's almost like taste is subjective.

That being said, I like the Velious UI too. The only thing I really miss is not being able to see the actual numbers in my mana pool.

[Jibartik]

The only thing I really miss is not being able to see the actual numbers in my mana pool.

This one makes me laugh

Designer: "should we display hit points?"
Brad: "Lol of course you stupid."
Designer: "ok and mana too I presu--"
Brad: "NO OF COURSE NOT"

y tho? :D

[kjs86z]

https://i.imgur.com/GyaUGaT.gif

Also I remember people moaning when Luclin models were no longer useable.

I love that .gif

[Jibartik]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/diprz6/when_you_trying_to_understand_your_3_years_old/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

Make that a gif swish haha

[kjs86z]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/diprz6/when_you_trying_to_understand_your_3_years_old/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

Make that a gif swish haha

Swish needs to give us a how-to on .gif posting.

[Indecisive]

Designer: "should we display hit points?"
Brad: "Lol of course you stupid."
Designer: "ok and mana too I presu--"
Brad: "NO OF COURSE NOT"

y tho? :D

https://i.imgur.com/PS4lWOJ.gif

[El-Hefe]

Duxa looks great; It's almost like taste is subjective.

That being said, I like the Velious UI too. The only thing I really miss is not being able to see the actual numbers in my mana pool.

Duxa looks like a FPS from 2007, not a fantasy RPG.

Taste is subjective. Some people think Nickelback is great music, some people think Burger King makes the best cheeseburgers and some people like DuxaUI.

[El-Hefe]

This one makes me laugh

Designer: "should we display hit points?"
Brad: "Lol of course you stupid."
Designer: "ok and mana too I presu--"
Brad: "NO OF COURSE NOT"

y tho? :D

I remember him explaining that the reason you couldn't see your group mates mana, but you could see their HP was that when viewed from a distance you could physically see that someone is hurt. But there would be no way of knowing how much magical energy someone has just by looking at them.

I imagine his rational for not giving exact numbers for mana is something along those lines. Magic and mana were suppose to be vague things not readily apparent to players.

Are we even sure that spells gave you exact mana numbers at launch?

[Indecisive]

Duxa looks like a FPS from 2007, not a fantasy RPG.

Taste is subjective. Some people think Nickelback is great music, some people think Burger King makes the best cheeseburgers and some people like DuxaUI.

The Velious UI looks about as fantasy RPG as Duxa does. If you like it because of nostalgia, or just because you like it, then cool. But the point I feel like you were trying to make is a bit of a weird one.

Also, Wendy's makes the best cheeseburgers. Fight me.

[El-Hefe]

The Velious UI looks about as fantasy RPG as Duxa does. If you like it because of nostalgia, or just because you like it, then cool. But the point I feel like you were trying to make is a bit of a weird one.

Also, Wendy's makes the best cheeseburgers. Fight me.

The OG velious UI wasn't much better than Duxa. But the new Green99 UI is head and shoulders better than either UI. There isn't even a comparison.

Also Jack in the Box demolishes Wendy's. I'll fight you in the streets, dude.

[Indecisive]

Jack in the Box demolishes Wendy's. I'll fight you in the streets, dude.

https://i.imgur.com/DglUJgl.jpg

[whitebandit]

That new Wendys Bacon Jalapeno Cheeseburger is fucking life.

[Wenai]

Please someone tell me that we will have more options for UI on green....this velious UI is killing me :|

Every time the loot window (or trade window / merchant window) opens....it pushes itself to the far left of the screen.

All the see through windows and cold black UI is so...bleh.

After so many years, finally having green come....and then playing it with this UI is going to sap away a lot of desire to play....
Definitely not happening for myself. I tested it on Blue and Green and it is not happening on either. There is also other people in the thread stating it is not the case.
This UI isn't classic!!!!! It's anti-classic.

Give me some meaty classic UIs! Black transparent windows weren't added till WAYYYYY later (late velious? Luclin? Pop?).

Even the class inventory window with the class icons is gone now..... :*******(

I know we can't have REAL classic UI....but at least the one they had been running with the last many years was pretty good.

https://imgur.com/OTTMnRO.jpg
I feel like at this point we need a PSA explaining:
- Classic Stone UI
- F10 Fullscreen UI
- Velious UI

Explain why the Velious UI is the best blend of the "classic" type UIs, and why the Stone UI is just not possible from a realistic perspective. It would case WAY TOO MUCH effort on the end user to make it work correctly.
The transparent UI gives me a headache. But the ui that is loaded when you /load default isn't that bad at all. It's functionally the same but not transparent. I have no problem with it at all.
As stated all over the place:
Window > Background > Texture
Window > Background > Tint Color > Pick your favorite color > Accept

Now you have solid backgrounds and can stop complaining about transparent windows.

[cd288]

https://i.imgur.com/GyaUGaT.gif

Also I remember people moaning when Luclin models were no longer useable.

I saw a post on Reddit with a Luclin work-around from awhile back that apparently works (if you like the Luclin models, which I don't). Wouldn't be surprised if someone comes up with a UI work-around.

[loramin]

I feel like at this point we need a PSA explaining:
- Classic Stone UI
- F10 Fullscreen UI
- Velious UI

Seriously! I tried to get the ball rolling on that. For now feel free to send anyone who claims "this isn't classic" to: http://wiki.project1999.com/Green_UI.

Also anyone can feel free to improve that page however they want ... it's a wiki! :)

[El-Hefe]

I saw a post on Reddit with a Luclin work-around from awhile back that apparently works (if you like the Luclin models, which I don't). Wouldn't be surprised if someone comes up with a UI work-around.

Apparently someone clued Rogean in to that work around and it’ll be closed today.

Good thing, too. Luclin models suck so bad that I take it as a personal offense every time I see them.

[soronil]

I saw a post on Reddit with a Luclin work-around from awhile back that apparently works (if you like the Luclin models, which I don't). Wouldn't be surprised if someone comes up with a UI work-around.

Only to have Rogean eventually notice and effortlessly nuke it into oblivion.
Yikes. Bye bye Luclin Models. Don't even need to patch.

[Gustoo]

Work arounds can be found by people smart enough to do them. When they become public they will be closed.

There were data points that I really valued in the more sophisticated UI's. Granular EXP percentage being really significant at high levels to know what kills were worthwhile. This helped after the more detailed / con system was changed back to classic to find out what mobs are reallly blue.

Gotta roll with the classic roll backs.