who else is psyched as fuck about this new server?

[El Prez]

I honestly don't care what it is. I am pretty pumped and will totally be playing with a lil crew.

I am also hearing a lot of hype for RoZ 2.0 - We definitely got some pvp on the way.

Could RoZ staff use a lil Presidente?

[FishBait01]

so pumped, that im running the largest guild on green beta

immersed as hell, handin out bloomin onion gift cards left and right

[Gustoo]

Which new server? Green?

Any new P99 server is a good event. Gotta hand it to the staff for making reliable servers and not going psycho and running them into the ground.

I wish I had time to cruise on green in deep immersion mode. I just love vanilla EQ when all player crafted stuff was pretty legit, and dropped stuff like bronze was definitely good gear.

Once kunark drops all that stuff is garbage town and its sad.

Maybe human monk is the way to go and then suicide him when kunark launches.

[Bazia]

what server you talking about lite

[Quil]

Me and my crew will be on both.

[Quil]

going to be a bloodbath

[Smedy]

has anything been said about the pvp server?

i have a hard time getting excited about blue everquest due to the fact that the games becomes retarded once you hit levels high enough to start camping items..

imagine hitting up guk with a group only to find out there's a 5 days long queue of retards waiting to camp the sash before you, and you can't do shit about it because if you do sirken will ban you

everquest blue should have instances, original everquest was built to have pvp based around item scarcity, you pvp to gain access to the camps, it's what makes the game fun.

yes i said it, everyone playing on blue is mentally disabled, all 1000 of you

[JayDee]

Rogaen is busy but he has communicated that he is going to save us. Just dont scare the newbs off like I saw you do in that quilmane video, smedy.

Imo there are things, while fair game, stoop a little too low even for pvp standards. For instance, I remember abysal telling a story about how he befriended a nice fella on rallos with the sole purpose of stealing his possessions. When the guy let him borrow some gear, they immediately killed and guild removed him.

That moment really stood out to me and wasnt long after that I started playing on p99. Lots of bickering and foul play on p99 but you rarely see things get that ugly. Ofcourse, no amount of convincing is going to change some of these people, but I think it's good to be mindful that we, for the most part, all have the same goal here and that is creating an enjoyable and robust pvp environment.

[Smedy]

Rogaen is busy but he has communicated that he is going to save us. Just dont scare the newbs off like I saw you do in that quilmane video, smedy.


Ah yes, Rogaen does do a lot... i hope he can bless us with a new funbox. As for the quillmane victim i did the guy a favor, he started on red99 in 2018... i'd rather see his life cut short then having this sad soul level to 60 then realize he is playing soloquest.

Edalse can attest to my kindness, i gave the young unknown dwarf a club in gfay and now he is a contributing member to our fine community

[Gustoo]

If I had time I would play green for vanilla quest. I agree that the game gets p dumb once you get to Max level on non pvp. You don't have anything to worry about. Gear doesn't mean hardly anytbing for PVE neither do any of your other choices.

But there's fun stuff for a while.

[LuckyBones]

Always hyped for everquest pvp, baby. Ill be there and on roz 2.0 too. I look forward to seeing your blood on my boots.

[Nirgon]

Red99 had vztz out of the box resists and xp loss on death

Population came expecting otherwise

Left accordingly

Gotta get it right

[Raclen]

Red99 had vztz out of the box resists and xp loss on death

Population came expecting otherwise

Left accordingly

Gotta get it right

Including the current resists on Red99 and not implementing the exp loss on pvp death for the next launch will take some time. ETA 2022.

[El Prez]

r99 softies not ready for item loot. When my bud got my drums looted on roz I thought it was the funniest thing, and it gave the other team some much needed morale. They still lost the great 5 day battle for Cazic Thule.

Item loot would be fantastic

[Nirgon]

Doesn't matter if you think you're ready or not

It's classic and RZ had the highest population when the Zek merge happened for a reason

Adding more people to your guild and zerging means less item loot targets

[Stasis01]

Your vision is running around solo on a wizard sniping a fungi.

Fucking disgusting.

[Palemoon]

Please stay on RoZ/counterstrike with elves.

bye

[Raclen]

RoZ has item loot. If you are making a bad comparison between a fantasy rpg and a 1st person shooter Red99 would probably work better with 0 consequence on death.

[iamnotsalem]

Item loot really sucks on RoZ. I even looted a shield of rainbow hues off some zergling very early in the server, but realisticslly all Item loot did was gimp character itemization and make it so i didnt have to buy water or rations. No one with half a brain was losing anything of importance. Item loot should be full body, inevtory is just dumb.

[Raclen]

Item loot really sucks on RoZ. I even looted a shield of rainbow hues off some zergling very early in the server, but realisticslly all Item loot did was gimp character itemization and make it so i didnt have to buy water or rations. No one with half a brain was losing anything of importance. Item loot should be full body, inevtory is just dumb.

People lost good items all the time including camped items, raid items, spells, blue diamonds, etc. It doesn't do much for you if you are just killing someone getting exp but it worked well if you killed someone camping items. Some great items were taken during raids. Normally a decent player does have good items on them even if it is just consumables worth a couple hundred plat.

Itemization becomes worse with body loot. You won't see people wearing much valuable gear. People will mostly wear no drop items with a couple items they bag for safety if an enemy enters the zone.

If you are talking about full body without being able to bag items that is more hardcore than I have ever seen on an EQ server. That would be interesting to see. I don't think zerging before Velious would be worth it with those rules so it would shake things up.

[FishBait01]

rogaine pvp soyvas will only work if he adopts the ROZ play policy.

Let us do whatever the fuck we want, and leave us the fuck alone.

Renly is a smart man.

[iamnotsalem]

Ya like i said people with less then half a brain might lose things.

I played for a month during classic with majortiy of guilds playing at 50 and raiding, catalyst, fair fighters, and what ever the dentists guild was called. I also played for 3 more weeks during the transition from kunark to velious.

During classic i was constantly killing people farming seafuries and lguk and other then the odd ruby crown i got... You guessed it, water or rations.

Later on during kunark/velious its true some characters carried consumables but those are of no consequence to lose. If your playing with even a handful of any serious players you will never be running out of wands or pots, and rarely dying if ever.

Item loot was far from "hardcore", it just made you equip your manastone instead of a dragon shield, and get free water or food. Item loot sucked.

Ive seem your posts Raclen and i get the feeling you enjoy PvP, but your not very good at it, and probably dont want to get better or dont realize that you can. Are you Brobb by any chance?

[FishBait01]

The biggest problem is when staff come fuck with the community.

Remember when Nihilum was walling dragons?
Heartbrand told Holo about the exploit and how they were doing it.
Heartbrand than told Rogaine to watch holo cheat.
Holo then walled dragons.
Holo then got de-de-deleted.

Then we have like 20 people quit and not give a shit anymore, and then you have a 1 guild server again.

[iamnotsalem]

Ps. palemoon is a little bitch

[Gustoo]

I would go full body for mega danger mode but it isn't classic so I don't approve of it, because non classic stuff made r99 sux.

It also means that soft characters that aren't good 1v1 pvp have to be rolling suuuuper weak so that they aren't just farmed. With classic item loot you can be soft and just bag your stuff, but if you want to be hard you gotta put your gear at stake.

It would just mean people EXP grinding would literally have no gear at all on their character which doesn't really have a positive impact on the pvp balance like normal item loot does, but it impairs peoples ability to enjoy items more than needed. So I'd say no.

TBH I just like to see people with auto run enabled bagging gear as their character is autorunning on a wall and dying. Sometimes thats what I do.

I just think a real rallos is worth trying if we ever do a good server here again.

Discord is less commitment from staff so also highly recommended.

[Rushmore]

95% of people on an item loot server will just run around naked... If you want some skin in the game maybe able to loot anything in there bags!? Now this is a nice compromise. They don't lose there main gear but if there camping SEB for 5 hours there bound to have something.

I dunno.

[Baler]

I already have /duel on hotkey 1

[Qtip]

has anything been said about the pvp server?

i have a hard time getting excited about blue everquest due to the fact that the games becomes retarded once you hit levels high enough to start camping items..

imagine hitting up guk with a group only to find out there's a 5 days long queue of retards waiting to camp the sash before you, and you can't do shit about it because if you do sirken will ban you

everquest blue should have instances, original everquest was built to have pvp based around item scarcity, you pvp to gain access to the camps, it's what makes the game fun.

yes i said it, everyone playing on blue is mentally disabled, all 1000 of you

Pvp sucks. Nothing more competitive then waiting for your opponent to fall asleep to take over his camp. What does pvp prove? You can click buttons?

[Tassador]

Imagine getting excited about eq pvp possible future server to the point you write paragraphs on the Internet. Holy fucking shit! That is why my main focus will be to kill off the blue pop and let you nut jobs contest into your 40’s.

<3 EQ pvp

[Gustoo]

Item loot was far from "hardcore", it just made you equip your manastone instead of a dragon shield, and get free water or food. Item loot sucked.



Yeah this definitely supports what I have been saying. At high level it makes people compromise their build a little bit, for example by holding the manastone instead of leaving it in inventory.

It is minimally impactful.

At low level it changes the game completely and makes it fun instead of basically a nuisance. At high level you pvp over targets or whatever so it makes sense. At low level the player killer is there just to waste your time and hopefully (from his perspective) to decimate you really quickly and feel awesome about his sweet OP build.

With item loot its at least sort of worthwhile to try to kill that dude. You're not getting upset about losing some cloth armor when you get harmtouched mid zombie kill in unrest.

[Bazia]

on live RZ all item loot manifested as was a shadowknight twink looting lowbies one or two items

east commonlands and other lowbie zones were complete ghost towns and this was during classic era lol

item loot has never worked people would hit level 10 or whatever i forgot the level protection from pvp wore off and you got instantly griefed, looted, and quit before you even knew what was going on( I ended up on morrell thule)

red99 was alot more like RZ than people may assume

[Gustoo]

The 1 to 9 protection was put in during POP or late luclin dude. Game was taking a hard nose dive by then. Everywhere old world was a ghost town by Luclin. Let's not even talk about 2002 stuff.

Pvp starts at level 1.

[Smedy]

The biggest problem is when staff come fuck with the community.

Remember when Nihilum was walling dragons?
Heartbrand told Holo about the exploit and how they were doing it.
Heartbrand than told Rogaine to watch holo cheat.
Holo then walled dragons.
Holo then got de-de-deleted.

Then we have like 20 people quit and not give a shit anymore, and then you have a 1 guild server again.

jews killed jesus and everquest pvp

rip

[heartbrand]

Ya but then I ratted nizzar out in kunark and got him deleted so it all balanced out

[Nirgon]

We listened to all the vztz people in here before saying just launch it, resists are fine and xp loss on PVP death was a good idea.

There's a reason 600 showed up for classic and 30 show up for custom weenie box. Same reason this box went down to 30 pop or lower. What a coincidence huh?

[Giovanni]

I would like to see a race/deity based pvp server with a little bit of roleplay thrown in.

The ogres fought the dwarves at the battle of Dagnor's Cauldron. Why should these two races be holding hands pursuing pixels together in Unrest?

Human Retribution, Army of Grobb, etc. were more memorable on live for me than elite dragon right clicking guild XYZ.

If there is concern about spies at the top end could have teams up to 45 for the casual roleplayers and FFA 46+ for the raiders?

[Raclen]

Ya like i said people with less then half a brain might lose things.

I played for a month during classic with majortiy of guilds playing at 50 and raiding, catalyst, fair fighters, and what ever the dentists guild was called. I also played for 3 more weeks during the transition from kunark to velious.

During classic i was constantly killing people farming seafuries and lguk and other then the odd ruby crown i got... You guessed it, water or rations.

Later on during kunark/velious its true some characters carried consumables but those are of no consequence to lose. If your playing with even a handful of any serious players you will never be running out of wands or pots, and rarely dying if ever.

Item loot was far from "hardcore", it just made you equip your manastone instead of a dragon shield, and get free water or food. Item loot sucked.

Ive seem your posts Raclen and i get the feeling you enjoy PvP, but your not very good at it, and probably dont want to get better or dont realize that you can. Are you Brobb by any chance?

Pointing out that decent items were looted in PvP on RoZ means I'm not good at PvP? There are logs to prove it if you really care. If you are going to seafury island trying to kill someone semi afk grinding plat and expect someone to drop a fungi tunic then you might be brain dead. With full item loot you will still be looting a ruby crown and plat if you are camping seafury island.

Good luck on your future pvp exploits.

[Rushmore]

The only way you guys are getting a pvp server is if you login green and grief the fuck out of everyone until you get it.

Probably not such a bad idea.

[Rushmore]

jews killed jesus and everquest pvp

rip

LMAO. Wasn't HB called the kingslayer?

[JayDee]

I would like to see a race/deity based pvp server with a little bit of roleplay thrown in.

Human Retribution, Army of Grobb, etc. were more memorable on live for me than elite dragon right clicking guild XYZ.


Tallon Zek. My *****. Teams were really something special in the beginning. Don't see it being the best fit here, but DAMN it was fun. The gnome (liberation of the underfoot!) vs. elf wars in gfay primetime with 400 people in zone CMON.

[Israel Adesanya]

I honestly don't care what it is. I am pretty pumped and will totally be playing with a lil crew.

I am also hearing a lot of hype for RoZ 2.0 - We definitely got some pvp on the way.

Could RoZ staff use a lil Presidente?

https://i.imgur.com/XPgZmcY.gif

[Stasis01]

Full body item loot means everyone will need to use DA idols, screen drag, hug zone lines, and roll high burst dps gank composition.

But to be honest big guild vs guild pvp nowadays is just 10 people syncing pumice trains and running you down with selos and windstrikers.

Lets face it boys the game sucks, it always has.

[Bazia]

whole game is who has more rogues and monks, EQ PVP was balanced like absolute trash

[mccallawazzle]

---- > item loot has never worked people would hit level 10 or whatever i forgot the level protection from pvp wore off and you got instantly griefed, looted, and quit before you even knew what was going on( I ended up on morrell thule)

lol... morrell thule! the haven of the craven..

I started my first eq during item loot, got griefed, looted, fought back, leveled to 50 (that was the maximum, back then) and had a great time. Because I was then and remain now a man.

[Bazia]

---- > item loot has never worked people would hit level 10 or whatever i forgot the level protection from pvp wore off and you got instantly griefed, looted, and quit before you even knew what was going on( I ended up on morrell thule)

lol... morrell thule! the haven of the craven..

I started my first eq during item loot, got griefed, looted, fought back, leveled to 50 (that was the maximum, back then) and had a great time. Because I was then and remain now a man.

well I was 7 years old and played 2 hours a week so not sure what your point is

who were you on red again?

[Gustoo]

I started my first eq during item loot, got griefed, looted, fought back, leveled to 50 (that was the maximum, back then) and had a great time. Because I was then and remain now a man.

Good post.

Also I'm excited to hear that windstrikers help run people down that means I can do a ranger on red 2.0 and return to my roots.

[Smedy]

---- > item loot has never worked people would hit level 10 or whatever i forgot the level protection from pvp wore off and you got instantly griefed, looted, and quit before you even knew what was going on( I ended up on morrell thule)

lol... morrell thule! the haven of the craven..

I started my first eq during item loot, got griefed, looted, fought back, leveled to 50 (that was the maximum, back then) and had a great time. Because I was then and remain now a man.

Not only were games better back in the day but people were less sensitive, people today feel like vanilla wow is hard, the game is literally built for carebares and there's nothing that can go wrong more then you having to spend 20 seconds running back for your corpse.

People are shit these days, item loot alone would def bring pop down to sub 100 within a few days. The reason it worked back in the day was

1. huge population leading to players having a reputation that mattered in the community, meaning if you were a fuckhead who would screw people over and steal their gear, chances are no one would really trust you and you would be exiled from the bigger guilds

2. games were hard, people were conditioned to deal with the heartache of losing

3. people didnt know the game so no one would outskill anyone by a mile, which today is different, we have nerds here who have played everquest for 20+ years and knows every trick in the book, combine that with item loot and any new player would instantly be discouraged to try it.

i am for item loot but i know it wouldn't work unless the server could substain a constant population of 1000 minimum 1500 at peak, without high pop your rep no longer matters and shithead nutswingers can join and leave whatever team/side they feel is getting pixelated this week, no sense of team makes the game faulty and ends up with one huge zerg of people who essentially hates each other but makes it work because they are getting the loot.

[Gustoo]

i am for item loot but i know it wouldn't work unless the server could substain a constant population of 1000 minimum 1500 at peak, without high pop your rep no longer matters and shithead nutswingers can join and leave whatever team/side they feel is getting pixelated this week, no sense of team makes the game faulty and ends up with one huge zerg of people who essentially hates each other but makes it work because they are getting the loot.

I pretty much agree. I think the green launch is going to tell us what kinda playerbase we are looking at. It isn't easy for anyone who isn't a psychopath to join up and start playing an MMO emulator from 1999. They look at it, cringe at you, and go play a normal persons game.

I'm hoping for a zillion pop on green which can support 1000+ pop on red. Not optimistically hopeful, just hopeful..like hoping a bad person has a heart attack and dies before more atrocities can be committed. If green is bursting at the seams, I think they will make a fixed new red server similar to green and hopefully with correct ruleset, which should have item loot.

[Kornaki]

Smedy, shouldn't a low server population mean reputation matters more? You only have to piss off me and my two alts before no one on red will play with you anymore, and that's only because I'm really good at player/character separation.

[Bazia]

Smedy, shouldn't a low server population mean reputation matters more? You only have to piss off me and my two alts before no one on red will play with you anymore, and that's only because I'm really good at player/character separation.

he means they cant be picky because they need people to down content, so you have to bring assholes or you wont be able to down the mob

[Israel Adesanya]

https://i.imgur.com/wSCaQJy.gif