Shiftin
04-17-2011, 06:18 PM
Somehow all the evidence provided is too spread out or insufficient, so here it is all consolidated.
- The bard epic was not the reason trak spawned more than once a week
The first mention of An Undead Bard on ZAM isn't until April 19th, 2001
http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20020703091627/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=6415
Ahhh here we go. Epic quests were modified in this patch;
http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20010314.html
March 14th, 2001
Epic Quests:
As part of the Plane updates, we've made several adjustments to Epic quests for a number of classes. Previously, questers of many classes were put in direct competition with regular non-questing adventurers for a few coveted
spawns. In these cases, a new step has been added to separate the "Epic Encounter" NPCs from the "Epic Quest" NPCs.
For those who are mid-quest, all quest requirements have remained the same. In other words, if you turn the same items into the same NPC, the same reward applies. What has changed is that some components may be in a different location from where you expect them. It is recommended that you check with the last NPC in line or other adventurers to find where you need to go next.
The Undead Bard did not exist until this time, March 14th, 2001- so, by this logic we can know that Trak was a 3 day spawn because when those DKP logs were made there was no such thing as An Undead Bard, this is backed up by it not showing up on Alla until April of 2001, and by the patch notes I've posted above.
Monkly Business
From 2001 but
Trakanon, level 63+, 3 days, Old Sebilis
http://www.monkly-business.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-8845.html
Afterlife DKP
Originally Posted by Afterlife DKP
169 2000-08-16 0.00 VenrilSathir 0.8 27.17 2.4 29.57
168 2000-08-14 0.00 Trakanon 1 26.37 2.4 28.77
167 2000-08-11 0.00 Trakanon 1 25.37 2.4 27.77
165 2000-08-09 0.00 Trakanon 1 23.87 2.4 26.27
164 2000-08-09 0.00 VenrilSathir 0.8 22.87 2.4 25.27
http://afterlifeguild.org/dkp.cgi?g=WoW&history=Thott&sort=date&start=8600
As you can see, This is a full week with no repops. On the 9th there was a patch. Even if the 11th was a crash, he respawned 3 days later.
Legacy of steel
Taken from their updates, which are not all inclusive but:
Trak dies on 11/1 - http://legacyofsteel.net/Archives/Post/2000-11-02
Trak dies on 11/6(or 11/7)
http://legacyofsteel.net/Archives/Post/2000-11-07 meaning he was up again for a while since they spent that week in sky after 3 days or someone killed him when he popped and they killed him when he repopped 3 days later. There was no patch
Trak dies on 11/22
http://legacyofsteel.net/Archives/Post/2000-11-22
And again on 11/25 (no patch)
http://legacyofsteel.net/Archives/Post/2000-11-25
If you look through their archives, you'll also see that the Trak kills 3 days after a trak do not include a VS kill if there was no patch or mention of server crash.
I know changes have been made on significantly less evidence than this, and i've yet to find any evidence suggesting he was 7 days. If this is still insufficient evidence, I will happily gather more if you will explain why.
- The bard epic was not the reason trak spawned more than once a week
The first mention of An Undead Bard on ZAM isn't until April 19th, 2001
http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20020703091627/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=6415
Ahhh here we go. Epic quests were modified in this patch;
http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20010314.html
March 14th, 2001
Epic Quests:
As part of the Plane updates, we've made several adjustments to Epic quests for a number of classes. Previously, questers of many classes were put in direct competition with regular non-questing adventurers for a few coveted
spawns. In these cases, a new step has been added to separate the "Epic Encounter" NPCs from the "Epic Quest" NPCs.
For those who are mid-quest, all quest requirements have remained the same. In other words, if you turn the same items into the same NPC, the same reward applies. What has changed is that some components may be in a different location from where you expect them. It is recommended that you check with the last NPC in line or other adventurers to find where you need to go next.
The Undead Bard did not exist until this time, March 14th, 2001- so, by this logic we can know that Trak was a 3 day spawn because when those DKP logs were made there was no such thing as An Undead Bard, this is backed up by it not showing up on Alla until April of 2001, and by the patch notes I've posted above.
Monkly Business
From 2001 but
Trakanon, level 63+, 3 days, Old Sebilis
http://www.monkly-business.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-8845.html
Afterlife DKP
Originally Posted by Afterlife DKP
169 2000-08-16 0.00 VenrilSathir 0.8 27.17 2.4 29.57
168 2000-08-14 0.00 Trakanon 1 26.37 2.4 28.77
167 2000-08-11 0.00 Trakanon 1 25.37 2.4 27.77
165 2000-08-09 0.00 Trakanon 1 23.87 2.4 26.27
164 2000-08-09 0.00 VenrilSathir 0.8 22.87 2.4 25.27
http://afterlifeguild.org/dkp.cgi?g=WoW&history=Thott&sort=date&start=8600
As you can see, This is a full week with no repops. On the 9th there was a patch. Even if the 11th was a crash, he respawned 3 days later.
Legacy of steel
Taken from their updates, which are not all inclusive but:
Trak dies on 11/1 - http://legacyofsteel.net/Archives/Post/2000-11-02
Trak dies on 11/6(or 11/7)
http://legacyofsteel.net/Archives/Post/2000-11-07 meaning he was up again for a while since they spent that week in sky after 3 days or someone killed him when he popped and they killed him when he repopped 3 days later. There was no patch
Trak dies on 11/22
http://legacyofsteel.net/Archives/Post/2000-11-22
And again on 11/25 (no patch)
http://legacyofsteel.net/Archives/Post/2000-11-25
If you look through their archives, you'll also see that the Trak kills 3 days after a trak do not include a VS kill if there was no patch or mention of server crash.
I know changes have been made on significantly less evidence than this, and i've yet to find any evidence suggesting he was 7 days. If this is still insufficient evidence, I will happily gather more if you will explain why.