Cleric - what do you need CHA for ?

[maxlaurent]

Hey all,

Is CHA important for a cleric ? As far as I know, I believe it is used to :
- reduce critical resists on lulls
- get better price when you sell stuff to merchant

Does it have other utilities ? (maybe get better chance to land a root ?).

Do dwarves cleric get bad time due to their very low charisma ?

Thanks !

[Reddraven]

CHA for me is 1/10 importance. There may be some very small check on the spell Calm. Most studies I see is CHA is next to useless for almost any class, even enchanter.

[Izmael]

CHA means everything when trying to Calm. It will affect your crit resist rates, and crit resists often suck.

Playing cleric as a ghetto enc is one of most fun things I know in EQ.

[Solist]

Cha is by far the most important cleric stat. Anyone who says otherwise does not own or play a 240+ cha cleric unbuffed.

You can get anywhere with calm/root/atone. Literally anywhere you like.

You are easily the best person in a group to be controlling pulls, and even more so in a duo. Curt calm resist on an enc is an out of control situation. On a cleric it’s laughable and so easily survivable while partner feee casts to CC. Do almost all the pulling in every dungeon on cleric as every option is much higher risk (except a bard).

You’re able to very easily reset situations with calm/atone.

[Baler]

haha LUL op doesn't know what CHA is for on a cleric. lul

[loramin]

CHA for me is 1/10 importance. There may be some very small check on the spell Calm. Most studies I see is CHA is next to useless for almost any class, even enchanter.

I think Blue has spoiled everyone with its inflated economy. On Green I think plat is going to be a lot more valuable, and as a result having higher Charisma, and thus being able to sell stuff for more plat, will actually be a lot more significant.

But yeah, being able to Calm/Pacify/whatever reliably is big. I almost want to give my 29 Cleric some Charisma items (even though I'm very anti-stat gear for leveling), just because it's so annoying when he tries to calm a room, fails and agroes it instead, has to gate out, med up, head back in and . .. gets resisted again :(

Twinked soloing cleric problems ;)

[Jimjam]

Does it have a role in atone?

I know atone has a chance to fail- it makes sense cha might be involved?

[unleashedd]

what you actually want is negative CHA. out of los pulls on crit resist is pro tactics

[Videri]

Hm. Usually, I never lull even-con or higher mobs. But if I had really high charisma, I could go ahead and spam lull on reds until it is not resisted. But think about the gear it would take to get up to even 200 charisma. If it's your first character, I bet you'd hit level 50 before you gather that kind of gear.

[Senn]

CHA for me is 1/10 importance. There may be some very small check on the spell Calm. Most studies I see is CHA is next to useless for almost any class, even enchanter.

Wow, really? I don't know if you're trolling or not.

Perhaps you should read this: https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=327383

Also, since the September patch fixed Pacify duration, you should be using your Donal's bracer for 7 minutes of awesomeness and a lower MR check than calm.

[Tecmos Deception]

Wow, really? I don't know if you're trolling or not.

Perhaps you should read this: https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=327383

Also, since the September patch fixed Pacify duration, you should be using your Donal's bracer for 7 minutes of awesomeness and a lower MR check than calm.

That test doesn't even test pacify. The wiki doesn't mention a different resist mod on pacify than calm, and I never noticed one in my play, and I've never heard of anyone else mentioning it.

Don't get me wrong, I pick my cleric race with charisma being a strong consideration and I love me some fucking lulls. But I'm not sure where your specifics on pacify being extra special for resists is coming from.

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

I can think of so many more stats to care about as a cleric.

Want real junk tier stats check out the gold armour from Sol Temple. What were they thinking when they designed it...

[fastboy21]

what you actually want is negative CHA. out of los pulls on crit resist is pro tactics

truth.

[Senn]

Don't get me wrong, I pick my cleric race with charisma being a strong consideration and I love me some fucking lulls. But I'm not sure where your specifics on pacify being extra special for resists is coming from.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2930478&postcount=2

MR check on Calm is 25
MR check on Pacify is 15

[planarity]

so pacify is 7 minutes now?

Shortly after the pacify change, I calmed a mob then tried to pacify it, but the pacify didn't take hold. if pacify is better in every way now, then it should overwrite, I'd think.

I made a bug report but I don't think there are any responses yet.

[Tecmos Deception]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2930478&postcount=2

MR check on Calm is 25
MR check on Pacify is 15

What's some dude named treats posting stuff have to do with what's actually on p99?

[Troxx]

Charisma for clerics (and paladins for that matter) is hugely underrated on this server. I have my cleric up to 35 now and plan on having a set of charisma gear to get to 150 unbuffed.

Paladins and clerics make excellent pullers and being able to lull your way around (think seb etc) is huge.

[Tecmos Deception]

Shortly after the pacify change, I calmed a mob then tried to pacify it, but the pacify didn't take hold. if pacify is better in every way now, then it should overwrite, I'd think

Dazzle doesn't overwrite mesmerize.

[Senn]

What's some dude named treats posting stuff have to do with what's actually on p99?

the fact that rogean fixed it.

wats some dude who got banned for RMT care anyway?