Bind Sight pulls on belly casters

[Screapy]

I found an issue with the recent changes and am not sure if that's intended. Will just snip what I told my guild in discord:

https://i.imgur.com/LEvpsc3.jpg

[feniin]

Harmony too!

[Erati]

Did a very quick search for 'aggro and bind sight' found this

Gimpy bards also use bind-sight. Open the door and get a target on a mob that you can see, then back up and bind sight on that mob, you can then bind-sight hop round the room, lulling all and sundry. Er... Actually uber mobs use bind-sight too from time to time. Case in point, the Feratha pull.
For the uninitiated, Feratha is a big badass puppy in RSS who lives in his big hutch with about 8 guard puppies. The guard puppies are lulleable so if you can lull round his room quick enuff you have a single pull. Howevah!!! The room is too big to lull them all from outside, and you cannot go into the doorway as Feratha has a substantial aggro range and will bite your head off. Sooooo how.... First run downstairs and, from a safe range, get a target on any mob in the room. Then go back upstairs and into the room directly above Feratha. You can now bind sight on the mob and hop around the room lulling with impunity!

https://everquest.fanra.info/wiki/Pulling_guide

The mob he is referring to is in Omens but it is unlikely they would radically change how Bind Sight works from Velious > Omens the spell was in at classic release. This is one example though of how the spell functions, bind sight into a place to get targets for lulls at a safe distance where otherwise wouldnt be possible. Surely if Bind Sight had the ability to cause aggro on resists this Bard would have warned you about it.

https://i.imgur.com/xrJVbEM.png

[Wallicker]

Too add: Bindsighting at leash range is causing mobs to attack your bindsight target... as fun as it is to watch Vindi and the temple guardians battle it out I doubt this was intended.

[Dolalin]

Bind sight never aggroed, I am 99% certain of this.

[galach]

Dev's are aware. Using bind sight intentionally to trigger or exploit factions wars will be punished.

[Screapy]

Dev's are aware. Using bind sight intentionally to trigger or exploit factions wars will be punished.

Okay, so I used bind sight earlier to pull Vindi. But mostly to have fun. Normally I would've summoned an eye, so no harm was really done. My apologies.

Hope that is alright, considering I reported that bug, as soon as I found out and saw your reply way after it was dead! :D

[Solist]

Good to see AM/Aegis using bind sight on Aary to kill all the NToV roamer flurries to speed their preparation for dragon.

[Uthgaard]

Harmony too!

Harmony should be -1000 resist and cause no aggro. Resist check should come before proximity check.

[Kirdan]

Good to see AM/Aegis using bind sight on Aary to kill all the NToV roamer flurries to speed their preparation for dragon.

Would love to know who actually cast it because I was on Nir'Tan and the only other bind sight in our raid (that I know of) was a bard who wasn't on Aary either.

Could've been from anywhere in the zone, just like the AG wiz who died accidentally engaging earlier in the evening.

[Solist]

So did a bit of playing around very late at night (aus prime time) with noone else in zone, to attempt to explore these mechanics some.

A few things to note we tried this with people who are:
non-kos ROS & COV.
kos ROS & COV
kos ROS & non-kos COV.
Results did not vary.

First video shows me parking an ice burrower directly on top of sontalak. Casting harmony with IB targeted shows a resist (from sontalak, belly caster) however the burrower is harmonied (a non kos was able to run past).

I then direct target sontalak and cast harmony, and it aggros.

https://youtu.be/wQr7rQyoOLM


Second video shows doing similar with bind sight from outside of leash range. Casting direct on sont = FTE message and resist, however cycling target TO sontalak after cast starts results in normal expected bind sight use, with no aggro etc.

https://youtu.be/4BHpTTNWvu0


We tried with esorpa, and a wyvern, and a burrower (@sont ensnared and unaggro) to attempt various factions.

Hope this may help somehow. But to any people in the raid scene, at least if you MUST bind sight 100% MR and/or belly cast raid mobs, do so by cycling target to the mob after the cast starts.

[Solist]

Fwiw this is what happens when combined with 100% summon mechanics in NToV so it's kind of hilarious and also sad. AM wiz bindsights Dagarn moments before riot is to engage it.

https://youtu.be/gFBUwOasdmU

Don't be that guy, triggering ae's, blowing ability timers, or just trying to snipe fte's is bad juju.