View Full Version : Quest Issue: Original Stein of Moggok should be 1hb
Nirgon
10-02-2019, 09:35 PM
It started as 1hb, but later changed.
You could use both of them at the same time too, if you had an original.
Sunderfury
10-02-2019, 09:51 PM
Please post evidence links as it saves staff time, else this thread will resolve from lack of evidence.
feniin
10-02-2019, 10:31 PM
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=49573
Doesn't seem legitimate...
Nirgon
10-02-2019, 10:35 PM
Please post evidence links as it saves staff time, else this thread will resolve from lack of evidence.
https://eq.magelo.com/item/44426
this was the best thing I found noting that it did in fact exist, as it was brought back as some special legacy reward
proc'd on melee instead of charges too
Sunderfury
10-02-2019, 11:06 PM
https://eq.magelo.com/item/44426
this was the best thing I found noting that it did in fact exist, as it was brought back as some special legacy reward
proc'd on melee instead of charges too
Ancient Stein of Mogguk? 2009 initial entry?
Kornaki
10-02-2019, 11:08 PM
http://www.eqemulator.org/forums/showthread.php?p=65089
There was a post v from 2004 talking about Stein of moggok being 6/28 (which matches the Alakazam entry). It's not clear what the context is though.
Here's a dude trying to sell the 1hb version. Maybe someone should ask him where he got it? The post is recent.
https://ectunnel.com/community/threads/wts-stein-of-moggok-weapon.71762/
Sunderfury
10-02-2019, 11:15 PM
Read this thread (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.games.everquest/"stein$20of$20moggok"$201hb%7Csort:date/alt.games.everquest/5ABAvztAC8I/ISN-sFb2GRUJ)over from August 1999 and provide a summary... something something about "Glowing Stein" being the original reward for the quest, but then being changed to "Stein of Moggok". Reports on TEST about it being a weapon currently and 'hoping' it stays that way. Something else about how if you unequip it then you can't re-equip in offhand.
I'm too tired to make heads of tails of it now and have never done the quest and unfamiliar with the item.
Sunderfury
10-02-2019, 11:24 PM
Another thread here (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.games.everquest/%22the$20glowing$20stein%22|sort:date/alt.games.everquest/Zr_tObahUTw/s_pUaCfBTEQJ)
Seems like Stein of Moggok shouldn't be in at release, but "a Glowing Stein" which can be completed by any class (seems like quest was different, easier? Didn't have the faction component to it). In August 1999 they nerfed the quest and created Stein of Moggok as reward.
Is possible all existing Glowing Steins converted to a 1hb type Stein of Moggok, but quest ones weren't?
Someone who cares more than me please dig.
Nirgon
10-02-2019, 11:34 PM
Ancient Stein of Mogguk? 2009 initial entry?
They did "Ancient" versions of legacy items by the looks of it.
Hell of an obscure one for them to get.
I had the 1hb version restored to me by a GM instead when they replaced a stein due to a trade bug. Then I got another of the new version. You could wield both at once and I'm not mixing that up with the crude stein.
Daldaen
10-02-2019, 11:45 PM
Allakhazam May 2000 (https://web.archive.org/web/20000511085510/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/)
Stein of Moggok: (Formerly the Glowing Stein) +5 dex, +10 int, +10 hp, +25 sv disease. 2 charges of light healing and acts as greater light source. Can be wielded in either hand. All Classes. Obtained through
EQLizier 2000 (https://web.archive.org/web/20000608104610/http://gameznet.com/eq/equipment/glowingstein.html)
Here the Glowing Stein has 5 less Disease Resist and no Clicky Light Healing, but it weighs 0.7 instead of Stein of Moggok's 2.5.
Nirgon
10-02-2019, 11:47 PM
ya I remember people callin it the glowing stein quest now, crazy
Erati
10-03-2019, 12:39 AM
I had Glowing Stein on live - traded Ruby legs n random junk for it ( :cain: )
it looked like a lantern, within a couple days...I logged in and it was Stein of Moggok instead with the cup graphic that I preferred anyway
Nirgon
10-03-2019, 09:58 AM
Best I could do is try to prove its not a figment of my imagination? Maybe give a similar window to the thex dagger?
More info disappears on this stuff every day
God now I remember glowing stein looking like a lantern... This barbarian shaman named Baldace told me about the glowing stein... It's comin to back to me boys
Erati
10-03-2019, 10:55 AM
Best I could do is try to prove its not a figment of my imagination? Maybe give a similar window to the thex dagger?
More info disappears on this stuff every day
God now I remember glowing stein looking like a lantern... This barbarian shaman named Baldace told me about the glowing stein... It's comin to back to me boys
BTW It was not a weapon when I had the Glowing Stein on Live.
But yes totally had lantern graphic, and I only heard ab it “through friends”
Glasken
10-07-2019, 04:29 PM
The only stein I can remember with weapon stats was the Fool's Gold Stein. 1hb, 2dmg 28 delay all/all prime/sec.
I am also pretty sure the "a Glowing Stein" was replaced by the Stein of Moggok, and did not co-exist with it. Could be wrong.
I am having a hard time finding anything about the glowing stein online.
Dolalin
04-27-2020, 08:26 AM
The Glowing Stein had its lantern appearance until the September 14th, 1999 patch:
Glowing Black Steins no longer look like lanterns
https://web.archive.org/web/19991012175622/http://soerbaird.com/forums/Forum16/HTML/000845.html
nilbog
09-03-2021, 01:05 PM
Pending update:
-Prior to September 1999, Stein of Moggok is named 'A Glowing Stein' and has the appearance of a lantern. When Sep1999 is enabled, the existing Glowing Steins will transform into Steins of Moggok with 3 charges.
https://i.imgur.com/VU6HGb0.jpg
https://web.archive.org/web/20000311055651/http://www.gameznet.com/eq/equipment/glowingstein.html
Additionally, and this applies to all servers regardless of timeline:
-Clurg requires indifferent or better faction to complete the turn in for the Stein quest.
further research etc:
I found it odd that all patch notes and most comments discuss the stein changing in 09/1999, but there is a comment by someone on Everlore in 08/1999 stating:
the other stein you are refering to the adds INT is the glowing stein.(I have one but as of today they suposedly changed the name to stein of moggok or something stupid and it has to be held in your primary slot now) And does this cast minor healing randomly or do you set it off by right clicking it or something? and what lvl does it take to kill those guards? and can you hold it in either hand? I'd like to have 2 steins in my hands that'd be wicked. ok thanx please respond soon.
https://web.archive.org/web/20020304231058/http://www.everlore.com/items/items.asp?IID=7586&mode=show&pg=1&sortby=1
Dolalin
09-03-2021, 01:37 PM
They were testing lots of changes like the DoT kiting nerf on Test server at that time so he may have been reacting to news from Test server. Test patcher notes were usually posted on eqvault etc.
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