Does it ever quake mid week?

[baakss]

Since I've been playing all quakes have been Friday/Saturday/Sunday.

Do Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday quakes ever happen or have they in the past?

[Kavious]

I dont have a more current list, but I do have a bunch of dates from a year+ ago

10/10/2017 Tuesday
10/28/2017 Saturday

11/16/2017 Thursday
11/30/2017 Thursday

12/28/2017 Thursday
12/31/2017 Sunday

1/20/2018 Saturday
1/28/2018 Sunday

2/11/2018 Sunday
2/27/2018 Tuesday

3/13/2018 Tuesday
3/29/2018 Thursday

4/16/2018 Monday
4/29/2018 Sunday

5/23/2018 Wednesday
5/31/2018 Thursday

6/26/2018 Tuesday
6/30/2018 Saturday

7/21/2018 Saturday
7/28/2018 Saturday

8/23/2018 Thursday
8/29/2018 Wednesday

9/21/2018 Friday

[Bardp1999]

Hahahahaha hahahahaha

[Maker_Mayhem]

Green Quakes FTW

[baakss]

Interesting. So I guess it was common last year? I started raiding in December so I have not seen it happen yet. Thanks for the info!

[Freakish]

Your list looks up to date to me.

[Jibartik]

Posting in this thread so in 20 years when someone comes looking for earth quake dates on the p99 forums the project2009 emulated server they will see this post.

Hello future person and Everquest fan. Yes it was fun playing on project1999. No I dont expect I am still alive.

[Jimjam]

It normally happens tuesday evening so Azure Guard are given an uncontested noble/ooa/hand of veeshan while doing their scheduled raid.

[zodium]

Since I've been playing all quakes have been Friday/Saturday/Sunday.

Do Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday quakes ever happen or have they in the past?

to my knowledge, quakes are still manual and so depend on nilbog/rogean's availabilities. the past long while they've been happening somewhat infrequently during US time on weekends, suggesting they are quite busy. i wonder what with.

[Rokzor]

I think the european community got a chance to roll on ring 8/shady goblin for max two weeks on a decent hour in a whole year :eek:

It's kinda depressing, but we keep the faith! :cool:

[saftbudet]

Since I've been playing all quakes have been Friday/Saturday/Sunday.

Do Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday quakes ever happen or have they in the past?

They are not random anymore. And happen on us prime time weekend. Probably there is a script to trigger the quake and its a set of few people that may trigger it.

Most likely use case is rogean get time over at weekend. And log into server an run script.

Its unfortunate for people working weekends and people not living in the usa. But it is at it is. I gave up on it, the only chance you would see a quake not weekend or prime time in the usa is rogean sleeping/work hours changing.

Why they removed the random script triggering random quakes i do not know.

[zodium]

They are not random anymore. And happen on us prime time weekend. Probably there is a script to trigger the quake and its a set of few people that may trigger it.

Most likely use case is rogean get time over at weekend. And log into server an run script.

Its unfortunate for people working weekends and people not living in the usa. But it is at it is. I gave up on it, the only chance you would see a quake not weekend or prime time in the usa is rogean sleeping/work hours changing.

Why they removed the random script triggering random quakes i do not know.

there was never a random script. come, stay a while, and listen.

once, in the beforetime, in the long long ago, there was set by the gods a policy to quake twice a month. but, since quakes were manual, as now, this resulted in one or both quakes going so late in the month that people would poopsock them! one dreadful winter, darker and colder than is normal for the season, as if auguring events to come, this angered he who shall not be named. his wrath was great. thus did he persuade the gods to change the quake policy from two to 0-3 quakes a month. thus was the server plunged from the golden age of quakes, its brief moment in the light snuffed out and extinguished. thus was born the dark and quakeless age wherein we linger still.

[sacman08]

there was never a random script. come, stay a while, and listen.

once, in the beforetime, in the long long ago, there was set by the gods a policy to quake twice a month. but, since quakes were manual, as now, this resulted in one or both quakes going so late in the month that people would poopsock them! one dreadful winter, darker and colder than is normal for the season, as if auguring events to come, this angered he who shall not be named. his wrath was great. thus did he persuade the gods to change the quake policy from two to 0-3 quakes a month. thus was the server plunged from the golden age of quakes, its brief moment in the light snuffed out and extinguished. thus was born the dark and quakeless age wherein we linger still.

*guzzles ale from the mug* Aye, it's been a dark and dastardly time...

[saftbudet]

there was never a random script. come, stay a while, and listen.

once, in the beforetime, in the long long ago, there was set by the gods a policy to quake twice a month. but, since quakes were manual, as now, this resulted in one or both quakes going so late in the month that people would poopsock them! one dreadful winter, darker and colder than is normal for the season, as if auguring events to come, this angered he who shall not be named. his wrath was great. thus did he persuade the gods to change the quake policy from two to 0-3 quakes a month. thus was the server plunged from the golden age of quakes, its brief moment in the light snuffed out and extinguished. thus was born the dark and quakeless age wherein we linger still.

Ohhhh, so in beforetime the gods were indeed by their own hand spreading its wealth fairly to all the inhabitants of the land. At some point we, the filthy men of the old continent must have been angering the gods to the point they only spread the golden quakes to the great isle of the west.

[kjs86z]

The best time to quake is Saturday evening.

As the weeks go by and windows naturally spread further and further apart, they all still land within range of the weekend.

[Rang]

I would prefer quakes on Monday / Tuesday around 10am-12pm EST because I am a stay at home Everquest son and I will have the least competition at those times, thanks.

[MaCtastic]

Winter is here.

[aaezil]

Sat/sun or thursday

Everything else is like what 2% chance?

[Baler]

rumor has it only nilbog himself know when a quake will happen

usually on tequila tuesday and fuck it I aint got work weekend.

[Brocode]

after rooted dragons no point in quaking mid week, oh wait true random quakes between fri-sun and mostly prime time USA, but totally random

[Ostepop]

We Europeans would love some quakes during our prime time. Assuming the Asian players feel the same.
Then again it's understandable that one chooses quake times that gives the most joy to as many people as possible.
I'm hoping to see more 3 quake months though :)

[zodium]

We Europeans would love some quakes during our prime time. Assuming the Asian players feel the same.
Then again it's understandable that one chooses quake times that gives the most joy to as many people as possible.
I'm hoping to see more 3 quake months though :)

automatic random quakes, 15% chance to quake per day rather than a per-month amount, no back-to-back quakes.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Quake percentage inversely proportionate to petition quantity over the last X days.

[Rick Sanchez]

It quakes when you walk up the stairs from moms basement to get more microwavable dinners.

[zodium]

welp, another 2am quake

[Dogma]

https://i.imgur.com/dipc1QR.jpg

[saftbudet]

Since I've been playing all quakes have been Friday/Saturday/Sunday.

Do Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday quakes ever happen or have they in the past?

No! All quakes happen between 5pm-9pm EST saturday-sunday. 100% classic

[bradsamma]

Oh god, it would be amazing to have a quake on a non-weekend.

[Ostepop]

Someone probably mentioned it already, but a side effect of quakes exclusively in US prime time is to gather all player agreement rolls and 24h mobs out of reach of non US players.
Talking about stuff like ring 8, shady, drusilla all being at 2am CEST, and whenever they start to slide into a feasible time they get pushed back by another quake.

[Rokzor]

Someone probably mentioned it already, but a side effect of quakes exclusively in US prime time is to gather all player agreement rolls and 24h mobs out of reach of non US players.
Talking about stuff like ring 8, shady, drusilla all being at 2am CEST, and whenever they start to slide into a feasible time they get pushed back by another quake.

[Genevensis]

Someone probably mentioned it already, but a side effect of quakes exclusively in US prime time is to gather all player agreement rolls and 24h mobs out of reach of non US players.
Talking about stuff like ring 8, shady, drusilla all being at 2am CEST, and whenever they start to slide into a feasible time they get pushed back by another quake.

[Jimjam]

Someone probably mentioned it already, but a side effect of quakes exclusively in US prime time is to gather all player agreement rolls and 24h mobs out of reach of non US players.
Talking about stuff like ring 8, shady, drusilla all being at 2am CEST, and whenever they start to slide into a feasible time they get pushed back by another quake.

So you're saying no longer being bound to middle of the night European earthquakes is going to be another Brexit dividend? BREXIT! BREXIT!

[Screapy]

I'm starting to feel for Bladefrenzy.. Obviously Fangry + Mcafx are the heroes in this particular incident, but I (eurotrash) can feel the frustration about geographical discrimination and being locked out of quests for months. Kozzalym, DS, Ring roll..

Sure quakes are a treat and all. I believe it's mostly to have people log in at this point. XP bonus weeks would be more beneficial overall because it wouldn't factor in the location you live in. Anyway sucks, GL at 24h spawns @murican pals

Edit: Adding huge variances to 24h spawns would at least provide some fairness, even though it would require a solid pair of poop socks then!

[Jimjam]

I'm starting to feel for Bladefrenzy.. Obviously Fangry + Mcafx are the heroes in this particular incident, but I (eurotrash) can feel the frustration about geographical discrimination and being locked out of quests for months. Kozzalym, DS, Ring roll..

Sure quakes are a treat and all. I believe it's mostly to have people log in at this point. XP bonus weeks would be more beneficial overall because it wouldn't factor in the location you live in. Anyway sucks, GL at 24h spawns @murican pals

Edit: Adding huge variances to 24h spawns would at least provide some fairness, even though it would require a solid pair of poop socks then!

It's swings and roundabouts. Americans get more quakes, and better population for things that need it (favours raiding), Euros have less competed camps (better xp / farming).

[Screapy]

It's swings and roundabouts. Americans get more quakes, and better population for things that need it (favours raiding), Euros have less competed camps (better xp / farming).

It's true that XP camps and cash camps are more often open in euro primetime than in US primetime. I guess we euros should just farm cash and buy MQs, encouraging farm crews to treat ppl like shit! :D

On a serious note: Yeah life is not fair, but my point is that it is pretty disheartening if you are constantly locked out of quests. P99 is just a game anyway but we all waste our lives on it so might as well give everyone the opportunity to work on their quests imo. Raid targets have 16hr variance anyway so spawn times will cover most time zones by default and the issue is not really present there. Sure you might miss all quakes for a year (which happened to basically every european), but at least you can raid the following weeks due to spawn variances :)

[Ostepop]

It's swings and roundabouts. Americans get more quakes, and better population for things that need it (favours raiding), Euros have less competed camps (better xp / farming).

Translated: sorry you don't get ring8, regal band of bathezid, spirit wracked cord, strength of elements etc. But you can farm abother fungi, yay

[bradsamma]

The majority of patches were done by 3pm EST midweek.

This was classic at least.

[loramin]

My theory is that the earthquakes aren't random because the staff need support people online when they happen. Support people don't play on Euro time, ergo we don't get Euro quakes.

If my theory is correct, there's a very simple solution: a European needs to volunteer to be a staff member :)

[Ostepop]

My theory is that the earthquakes aren't random because the staff need support people online when they happen. Support people don't play on Euro time, ergo we don't get Euro quakes.

If my theory is correct, there's a very simple solution: a European needs to volunteer to be a staff member :)

FYI CEST is 9 ish hours ahead of PST. It's not a different universe or anything.

[Screapy]

The majority of patches were done by 3pm EST midweek.

This was classic at least.

Ha! So you're saying euro quakes would be true classic? 9pm sounds great to me :D

[Screapy]

My theory is that the earthquakes aren't random because the staff need support people online when they happen. Support people don't play on Euro time, ergo we don't get Euro quakes.

If my theory is correct, there's a very simple solution: a European needs to volunteer to be a staff member :)

Why is it required to have a staff person online other than triggering the quake?

[loramin]

Why is it required to have a staff person online other than triggering the quake?

Well first off, I'm pretty sure I said this already but I'll re-state it: this is my theory.

But if the theory is correct, it's because earthquakes cause guilds to fight over mobs, and when guilds fight over mobs they need GMs to show up and resolve those fights.

I'm not saying it's guaranteed, but I imagine every earthquake there's a decent chance that two major guilds to get into it. I don't think the staff wants that happening, and going on for hours, without any chance for them to intervene.

[Screapy]

Well first off, I'm pretty sure I said this already but I'll re-state it: this is my theory.

But if the theory is correct, it's because earthquakes cause guilds to fight over mobs, and when guilds fight over mobs they need GMs to show up and resolve those fights.

I'm not saying it's guaranteed, but I imagine every earthquake there's a decent chance that two major guilds to get into it. I don't think the staff wants that happening, and going on for hours, without any chance for them to intervene.

Okay, I hear ya. Here is what I think about that:
From my experience raid disputes are usually being handled by the guild officers. Usually people demand fraps and then exchange fraps and come in most cases up with a solution themselves. Usually they're mad at each other for weeks and that's the end of the story. If they don't come up with the solution usually petitions are filed AFTERWARDS including fraps of both parties. So there are barely any "on the spot" deicisions.
The one and only occasion I can remember where GMs took actions right on the spot changing the very present quake immediately was when Tempest was told to leave ToV (I might be wrong here that there were more occasions).

Soooo assuming GMs wouldn't have time to watch a 3 pm EST quake, I would argue there isn't the need to watch a 3 pm EST quake.

[Jimjam]

Okay, I hear ya. Here is what I think about that:
From my experience raid disputes are usually being handled by the guild officers. Usually people demand fraps and then exchange fraps and come in most cases up with a solution themselves. Usually they're mad at each other for weeks and that's the end of the story. If they don't come up with the solution usually petitions are filed AFTERWARDS including fraps of both parties. So there are barely any "on the spot" deicisions.
The one and only occasion I can remember where GMs took actions right on the spot changing the very present quake immediately was when Tempest was told to leave ToV (I might be wrong here that there were more occasions).

Soooo assuming GMs wouldn't have time to watch a 3 pm EST quake, I would argue there isn't the need to watch a 3 pm EST quake.

Maybe GMs are quaking when they feel it is most likely there will be reputable guild officers on who will resolve or document any disagreements they have with opposing guilds, reducing the difficulty of any disputes that do reach a CSR?

[Screapy]

Maybe GMs are quaking when they feel it is most likely there will be reputable guild officers on who will resolve or document any disagreements they have with opposing guilds, reducing the difficulty of any disputes that do reach a CSR?

If that's the case, then the server owes Bladefrenzy some quakes :D

[Fammaden]

I've considered that before as well. They'd have to be kinda masochistic to go throwing out quakes mid-day on weekdays while the support staff has to work, or during dinner with their families or whatever else.

I remember at least one Saturday morning quake since I've been here though, seems like lately its all weekend and evening. Mixing it up just a little would be nice.

[Fammaden]

If that's the case, then the server owes Bladefrenzy some quakes :D

Quaking when Bladefrenzy is on would not ensure them of reputable raid leaders!!!

[saftbudet]

I think EST weekend primitime quakes are either a cause from influential induviduals or the staff just quake when it suits themself best.

[elwing]

Wtb eurotime week quake...

[zodium]

or the staff just quake when it suits themself best.

the quakes are manual. rogean and nilbog are americans. this isn't theory. of course nilbog and Rogean aren't going to stay up till 4am for everquest. heck, I won't stay up till 1am for everquest.

the solution is automated random quakes.

[Rokzor]

the solution is automated random quakes.

#longlivetheserver

[Ostepop]

the solution is automated random quakes.

Loving the idea.

[saftbudet]

I filed a bug report regarding Quakes being unclassic.
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=333444&highlight=quakes

Unfortunatly it was trolled by jimjam, and was low responce to thread. So I dunno.

The post by daldaen in same thread was news to me, I was not aware that on patch days mobbs respawned with 0-24 timers in this era. But if thats true it further indicate Quakes as we have them now with instant repop are very unclassic, instead on a quake raid mobbs should respawn with a 0-24h variance.

[Jimjam]

Not really trolled, added a narrative, emotional element to it.

I'm a Euro too (until November!), so although I joked the /gu was from your diary, the truth is my response was very much a genuine, autobiographical addition.

Tuesday AM quakes would be lovely, but I doubt it will happen. No matter how compelling your arguments.

I'm sorry you feel I derailed your bug report.

[saftbudet]

Not really trolled, added a narrative, emotional element to it.

I'm a Euro too (until November!), so although I joked the /gu was from your diary, the truth is my response was very much a genuine, autobiographical addition.

Tuesday AM quakes would be lovely, but I doubt it will happen. No matter how compelling your arguments.

I'm sorry you feel I derailed your bug report.

All good takes a big person to apologize thank you!

I kinda gave up on this issue anyway. If my classic link in the thread and Daldaens reply is not enough for rogean/nilbog to let go of quake as it is today then its not gonna happen anything anyway.

[Jimjam]

Yea, we Euros just have to keep courteously Gratzing our US compatriots for having all the fun :).

[zodium]

Yea, we Euros just have to keep courteously Gratzing our US compatriots for having all the fun :).

nilbog already wrote he was going to automate the quakes ages ago so presumably some technical problem is holding it up.

[zodium]

fully automated random luxury earthquakes now

[loramin]

nilbog already wrote he was going to automate the quakes ages ago so presumably some technical problem is holding it up.

Well, there's two possibilities. We know this much: Nilbog has already created a way to cause earthquakes.

Knowing nothing about their code or specifics, as a programmer I can tell you that if you have function X, and you want to call X at randomly determined intervals, that is not a difficult task from a technical perspective. I could probably do it in an hour with Node and node-schedule, or maybe a couple hours if I had to write something that edited the CRON tab to trigger it (so that you don't have to leave the process running).

Again, I don't know their details, so maybe there really is something uniquely technically challenging about the problem for them. But, it seems far more likely to me that it's not that Nilbog can't find two hours to do something (that would please every raider on the server) ... it's that the staff has other, non-coding issues to consider (eg. they want to ensure staff support during earthquakes).

[zodium]

Knowing nothing about their code or specifics

let me just stop you right here, person who has never touched eqemu code: the baseline shitshow level with which we are dealing here is such that Wiz once fixed the biggest, most mysterious and pervasive disconnection issue SoD ever had by randomly adding a cout in the main login code.

[loramin]

let me just stop you right here, person who has never touched eqemu code: the baseline shitshow level with which we are dealing here is such that Wiz once fixed the biggest, most mysterious and pervasive disconnection issue SoD ever had by randomly adding a cout in the main login code.

Right, but my point is, I don't have to know what function "foo" does when you call it, or how it's implemented. The problem being solved is "how do I call foo at random intervals", and that is an easily solved problem.

It's like saying "I've got a box of pie recipes, and I want to bake a random pie." You don't have to know anything about baking to dump a bunch of recipe cards on the floor and pick one at random: the instructions on the card are irrelevant.

But to be clear, none of this is meant to insult the staff or say they can't solve easy technical problems. My entire point is, maybe there's something more than the easy technical problem that they're worrying about.

[Baler]

Did anyone hear if quakes will happen on green?

[zodium]

Right, but my point is, I don't have to know what function "foo" does when you call it, or how it's implemented. The problem being solved is "how do I call foo at random intervals", and that is an easily solved problem.

you assume this about everything and you are always, always, always wrong tho lmao

[loramin]

Did anyone hear if quakes will happen on green?

Nope.

I would imagine they'll happen at some point though, since in theory they are part of the project's goal to re-create classic (server update respawns specifically), and Green is even more about being classic than Blue ... but in the server's early days I'd imagine the staff has better things to worry about than respawning two dragons that no one will even be able to kill yet :)

[loramin]

you assume this about everything and you are always, always, always wrong tho lmao

I don't know what your issue is Zura, but you have a terrible memory. You love to pick big long fights with me for some reason ... and it never goes well.

Here's a recent example: you picked a giant fight over PoM armor, because I said:

A couple of the Druid pieces are superior to Skyshrine, but it's not as dramatic as the Enchanter robe or Shaman boots.

After several pages of arguing, how did it end up? If we're only talking about one BP, everyone agreed: the Skyshrine BP WAS better than the PoM one! Clicky Regrowth of the Grove is kinda better than a few stat points.

Of course, if you can have two BPs, one for stats and one for clickies, the PoM BP does have better stats ... but I was never "wrong" in anything I wrote, because I was never talking about which BP was better purely stats-wise. That was 100% in your imagination, and you picked a huge multi-page fight over it.

Here's how that fight ended, with you providing no rebuttal:

So you're saying your entire argument that I'm "wrong" (and shouldn't be posting) ... the entire thing you've spent pages fighting over ... isn't even based on you having a legitimate disagreement with me?

Anyone who is curious (and if you are ... really you don't have better things to do?) can read the whole conversation and decide for themselves: https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=330532

But as for me ... dude, get off my nuts, and stop imagining fights to pick with me.

And on this topic in particular ... have you ever written a line of code to schedule something in your life? Have you ever even edited a CRON tab (which isn't even really programming, just shell scripting)?

[zodium]

buddy you replied to me, lol

but sure, you were and remain wrong about that too

[loramin]

buddy you replied to me, lol

but sure, you were and remain wrong about that too

Only you would equate someone replying respectfully and normally, discussing the topic at hand, with starting a flame war. Here's me replying to you:

Well, there's two possibilities. We know this much: Nilbog has already created a way to cause earthquakes.

Knowing nothing about their code or specifics, as a programmer I can tell you that if you have function X, and you want to call X at randomly determined intervals, that is not a difficult task from a technical perspective. I could probably do it in an hour with Node and node-schedule, or maybe a couple hours if I had to write something that edited the CRON tab to trigger it (so that you don't have to leave the process running).

Again, I don't know their details, so maybe there really is something uniquely technically challenging about the problem for them. But, it seems far more likely to me that it's not that Nilbog can't find two hours to do something (that would please every raider on the server) ... it's that the staff has other, non-coding issues to consider (eg. they want to ensure staff support during earthquakes).

Here's you replying to me:

you assume this about everything and you are always, always, always wrong tho lmao

Note that only one of us had to resort to personal attacks in a discussion that was otherwise cordial.

[Wallicker]

It is wildly skewed towards nights and weekends to the point that it is beyond statistical variance

[Jimjam]

It is wildly skewed towards nights and weekends to the point that it is beyond statistical variance

Its almost like the guy setting them off has a daytime job in the states and just uses his leisure time to quake when he feels.

Euros: your mission is clear. Head hunt the backward goblin - if he gets euro hours of work we get euro hours of quake!

[Wallicker]

A great compromise is a late night Sunday quake atleast windows spread into botbhplaytimes then

[Baler]

a lot of people didn't know that previously when it was 1-2 quakes per month. People would count the days down of the month till the last week - 3 days. Then poopsock raid zones till the quake happened on the final days of the month.

[saftbudet]

A great compromise is a late night Sunday quake atleast windows spread into botbhplaytimes then

For compromise EST should have 4 weekend quakes at 01AM, 2x at 2AM and then 1 at 4AM all in a row over 6 weeks period! :-)

Feel the pain!

[Zeboim]

I'm hoping for about 5 quakes in a row for Blue on Green launch, personally.

[saftbudet]

I'm hoping for about 5 quakes in a row for Blue on Green launch, personally.

As long all 5 in the middle of the night EST time, sounds good!

[Jimjam]

6am Euro time quake, Monday morning... Nice to hit a couple of targets before taking the kids to school/ starting work!

[Ostepop]

I'd prefer 6pm over 6am, but this is good.

[saftbudet]

6am Euro time quake, Monday morning... Nice to hit a couple of targets before taking the kids to school/ starting work!

This was an Asian Quake!!

Still break the trend of last 5 quakes which where America EST 3-9PM quakes. I am happy and I bet all Asian fans are also!

[zodium]

a lot of people didn't know that previously when it was 1-2 quakes per month. People would count the days down of the month till the last week - 3 days. Then poopsock raid zones till the quake happened on the final days of the month.

and then Sirken had it changed to 0-3 quakes instead of just removing the "per month" dependency, lmao

big brain boi move